Stop calling Team USA the Dream Team
By Ryan O'Connell, 3 Aug 2012 Ryan O'Connell is a Roar Expert
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There will only ever be one Dream Team, and it’s the 1992 United States basketball squad at the Barcelona Olympics. Every subsequent US basketball team, whilst talented, should never, ever be labelled the Dream Team.
To do so is sacrilegious to what is arguably the greatest sporting team ever assembled.
It’s an easy mistake to make, and one I’ve done many times myself. ‘Dream Team’ has become somewhat of a nickname for USA basketball teams, but it’s important to remember that the title was given to the 1992 team to reflect just how truly amazing and unique that squad was.
Memories fade, but we should never forget how dominant that team was. On its way to the gold medal in Spain, the team thumped opponents by an average of 44 points per game, thereby dramatically backing up the hyperbole that surrounded its formation.
Yet it seems there are some not willing to give the Dream Team all the kudos they fully deserve.
A few weeks ago, current Team USA player Kobe Bryant stated that the 2012 team could beat the 1992 team. Calling it “a tough one”, Bryant told ESPN that the 2012 team would likely win because of “young racehorses” who are “eager to compete” and a collection of faster wings who could outrun the older players from 1992.
The comment by Bryant was met with the derisive backlash it deserved.
However, it did provoke a classic response from Dream Teamer Larry Bird. The all-time legend replied to Bryant’s comment by saying: “They probably could. I haven’t played in 20 years, and we’re all old now.“
Others weren’t so humorous or diplomatic.
Michael Jordan laughed when he heard of Kobe’s comments, before stating: “For him to compare those two teams is not one of the smarter things he ever could have done.”
Charles Barkley said the 1992 squad would crush the current incarnation. And as for Kobe’s suggestion that the Dream Team was too old, Sir Charles quite rightfully pointed out that the Dream Team wasn’t as old as people seem to remember:
“How old is Kobe? He’s 34? And he’s calling us old? At the time, we were only like 28, 29. Michael Jordan and me were the same age. We were both 29. Other than Kobe, LeBron and Kevin Durant, I don’t think anybody else on that team makes our team.”
Now Barkley isn’t shy of an outlandish and controversial statement. Few other athletes have such a vast array of colourful quotes on their resume. However, Chuck was right on the money this time.
The 1992 Dream Team consisted of Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, David Robinson, Chris Mullin, John Stockton, Clyde Drexler and Christian Laettner.
The overwhelming majority of those names will go down in history as some of the finest to ever play the game.
As the last player selected, Laettner has become the difficult answer to a tricky trivia question. He was a token selection as the lone college player included in the squad. It was a bizarre inclusion back in 1992, and time only serves to increase the strangeness of the decision.
The 2012 squad contains LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Russell Westbrook, Kevin Love, Tyson Chandler, James Harden, Andre Iguodala and Anthony Davis.
A fantastic team, no question, but hardly one that dreams are made of. I personally don’t believe they would get within double figures of the Dream Team, let alone beat them.
Additionally, Barkley’s assessment that just three of those players would earn selection in a combined team is spot on. LeBron James would easily assume Laettner’s place, while Kobe would beat out Drexler, and Durant would probably displace Mullin.
An argument could be made that Larry Bird was at the very end of his career and severely hampered by injuries in 1992. But it would be a brave person that would select any other current squad member over Larry Legend.
All other members of the 1992 Dream Team would easily hold their place against any 2012 challengers.
So only three players from the current squad could make the 1992 team?
I think that puts the argument about which team was better to rest once and for all. And I would suggest that Kobe, like many others, need to show a little bit more respect.
That respect can start by remembering that there is, and will only ever be, one Dream Team.
Ryan is an ex-representative basketballer who shot too much, and a (very) medium pace bowler. He's been with The Roar as an expert since February 2011, has written for the Seven Network and NBA Down Under, and been a regular on ABC radio. Ryan tweets from @RyanOak.
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August 3rd 2012 @ 5:07am
Brendon said | August 3rd 2012 @ 5:07am | Report comment
The whole 1992 Dream Team being so dominant was also influenced by political events in Europe. Yugoslavia had broken up splitting Croatia and Serbia and the USSR had broken up splitting Russia and Lithuania. The competition the 1992 team faced was much weaker than what the college players faced in 1988 or the 1990 world championships.
I’m not saying that if Yugoslavia or the USSR were still around that either would have beaten the USA, neither would have, but it would have been closer. If you look at the 1992 or 1996 finals you would see there were periods when Croatia or Serbia were competitive with the USA but when the teams went to the bench for subs the USA’s depth really showed.
A Yugoslavian team of Divac, Kukoc, Petrovic, Danilovic and Radja wouldnt have been a pushover.
August 3rd 2012 @ 9:07am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 3rd 2012 @ 9:07am | Report comment
No question that the 1992 team benefited from the break up of European countries.
However, to be fair, the Dream Team never got out of first gear. The only time they really turned up the intensity was in the round game against Croatia, when Jordan and Pippen had a point to prove against Kukoc. They smothered him, held him to two points, and had him in near tears after the game.
Other than that, they coasted. Coach Chuck Daly didn’t call a time-out for the entire tournament. My point is, as dominant as they were, they still had another gear to go up to.
The Croatian side with Kukoc, Radja, Petrovic, Vrankovic, etc, and the Lithuanian side with Sabonis, Marciulionis, Kurtinaitis, etc, would give this current US side a real challenge.
August 3rd 2012 @ 9:59am
Johnno said | August 3rd 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
Gotta love Rimas Kutanitis lol a townsvile suns import when they were the suns , him and ricky jones were deadly. Ah how i miss the halcyon days of the NBL 1980′s and 90′s. But the NBL i have a hunch is going to get strong between now and year 2020, especially if it could get an Asian champion league going. He was top quality too the 1st and maybe only NBL import not from USA.
August 3rd 2012 @ 10:22am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 3rd 2012 @ 10:22am | Report comment
Ricky even got away with stealing Shawn Kemp’s nickname: The Rain Man
August 3rd 2012 @ 10:24am
Johnno said | August 3rd 2012 @ 10:24am | Report comment
lol too funny, ah those were the days. Andrew Gaze still talks like he is in the 90′s at the games. In the spain game he seemed to be calling Ibaka, Obaakka.
August 3rd 2012 @ 11:28am
Brendon said | August 3rd 2012 @ 11:28am | Report comment
No question that the 1992 Dream Team benefitted from the break up of Eastern Europe but few commentators, especially American, ever acknowledge that point.
World basketball in terms of strengths of other countries was at its weakest in the 1990′s. Break up of Eastern Europe and before countries like Argentina and Spain hit their straps.
August 3rd 2012 @ 11:45am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 3rd 2012 @ 11:45am | Report comment
Yep, fair point on American commentators.
However, despite the break-up of some European powerhouses, basketball was most certainly not at it’s weakest in the 1990′s.
The emergence of Spain and Argentina over the last 6-8 years has been fantastic, and the amount of countries that are competitive now may be higher, so basketball therefore has greater overall depth. But the standard at the very top in the 90′s was higher than it is now.
The US, Croatian and Lithuanian teams in 1992 would definitely be the top three teams if they played in this current tournament. Russia (playing as the CIS) Australia, Germany and maybe even Brazil (with Oscar) were stronger back then too.
I actually think the standard at this Olympics has been the lowest I can recall.
August 3rd 2012 @ 3:42pm
jameswm said | August 3rd 2012 @ 3:42pm | Report comment
Didn’t Kukoc, Pippen and Jordan all play on the Bulls together? Why did they gang up on their club team-mate? Had he left? Didn’t they get on? Did Kukoc only play for the Bulls afterwards?
August 3rd 2012 @ 3:49pm
Ryan O'Connell said | August 3rd 2012 @ 3:49pm | Report comment
Kukoc was still playing in Europe at the time, but was being courted by Bulls General Manager Jerry Krause, who was trying to make Kukoc come to Chicago. At the time, Pippen was woefully underpaid, despite being an All Star and two time NBA champion.
Both Jordan and Pippen took exception to Krause chasing a foreign player who was yet to prove himself in the NBA, whilst neglecting a proven star like Pippen. They decided to take their frustration out on Kukoc and make an example of him.
So they basically tore him apart.
August 3rd 2012 @ 7:51am
Johnno said | August 3rd 2012 @ 7:51am | Report comment
-Global basketball has changed totally. Basketball is becoming like soccer a truly mass market global team sport. Basketball is a bit where rugby is. Other global team sports like hockey, handball, water polo, volleyball, are not as popular as basketball or rugby.
-In 2012 that 1992 dream team USA team would still be dominant but not as dominant,. Spain have at least 5 players in the NBA. A few of there stars are out injured who are NBA players. Argentina 2004 team, and spain 2008 team, would give dream team a good run but would still lose. No question the world has caught up to USA and the gap will close more and more over the next 20 years.
-For me the big advantage team USA has is depth. Maybe like Brazil soccer team or the NZ ALL blacks. If they lose a star player eg Kobe, or Le Bron, they have so many NBA players that can come in. Maybe not as good, but other nations don’t have that luxury to draw on NBA talant or good back up eg australia boomers Andrew Bogut has left a massive gap.
-But NBA basketball is different to FIBA basketball. The court size is different the 3 point size is a little smaller, and tournament basketball or soccer or rugby, is very different to regular season basketball. And Argentina and spain are 2 countries that play really good tournament basketball as do traditionally lithuania too. The old USSR and Yugoslavia were the same, good tournament basketball team. Germany play great tournament soccer, even when there team is not full of stars. .
Aussies sometimes play good tournament basketball but depth will test us at this olympics, . Andrew Gaze and shane heal were great tournament basketball players as were bradke and Vlahov, and longley. Andrew Gaze i thinks the leading scorer still at Olympics and his last 1 was 2000.
August 3rd 2012 @ 11:58am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 3rd 2012 @ 11:58am | Report comment
The world has closed the gap on the US as a nation, but I think the Dream Team itself would have been even better if they were challenged. In other words, I’m not even sure we saw their ‘best’.
Jordan was the greatest offensive weapon in NBA history, but he didn’t even lead this team in scoring, Barkley did.
Whilst the depth of talent around the world has gotten better, the 11 professionals on the Dream Team will all be remembered in the top 100 players that have ever played the game.
As much as world basketball has improved, that Dream Team would still annihilate any other team past, present, and possibly future.
August 3rd 2012 @ 8:24am
Ryan said | August 3rd 2012 @ 8:24am | Report comment
1992 team would smash them. Jordan, magic and bird make it no contest. Even today most I those guys are top 1-3 in their positions all time.
August 3rd 2012 @ 2:39pm
winston said | August 3rd 2012 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
To be fair BIrd was close to the end of his carreer as was Magic. Besides Jordon who would spank any of these guys in 92. They would not be as far apart as you think. I think we like to remember them as being better than they actually were. Ewing, mullin and stockton, robinson, they were good but not levels ahead of todays guys. Labron would easily be the second best out of combined 92-12 team.
There have been alot of improvements in training techniques in the last 20 years.
August 3rd 2012 @ 3:15pm
Ryan O'Connell said | August 3rd 2012 @ 3:15pm | Report comment
Yes, Bird was a shadow of his former self and in the twilight of his career. But Magic was just 32 years of age – that’s two years younger than Kobe is now. And everyone else was in the absolute prime of their careers.
Barkley was just about unstoppable at that point of career, a perfect mix of speed, strength and aggression. And let’s not even start on MJ would have been 29.
Ewing and Robinson were so much better than Tyson Chandler and Anthony Davis that the battle down low would almost be unfair. Mullin and Stockton might not have been streets ahead of the current players, but they were also just the reserves.
Yes, LeBron would be the second best player, but he wouldn’t have much support.
August 3rd 2012 @ 8:27am
sledgeross said | August 3rd 2012 @ 8:27am | Report comment
If Kobe starts dating Steph Rice, would that be a Wet Dream Team?
August 3rd 2012 @ 10:00am
BigAl said | August 3rd 2012 @ 10:00am | Report comment
Why is this post still here mods. ?
August 3rd 2012 @ 2:15pm
nachos supreme said | August 3rd 2012 @ 2:15pm | Report comment
Why is this reply still here mods. ?
August 3rd 2012 @ 11:00am
Pano777 said | August 3rd 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
classic post!!! thanks for keeping it in moderators!!!
August 3rd 2012 @ 2:20pm
BigAl said | August 3rd 2012 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
mmmmh! – you guys . . . .like to watch aye ???
August 3rd 2012 @ 8:42am
katzilla said | August 3rd 2012 @ 8:42am | Report comment
Even the bench players of that Dream Team would compete with the current set up.
Robinson, Malone, Pippen, Drexler, Stockton.
In saying that though, LeBron would be be the second best player on the Original team.
August 3rd 2012 @ 8:42am
Chaos said | August 3rd 2012 @ 8:42am | Report comment
You say this then Team USA absolutly decide to stamp their Authority against Nigeria. 119 – 62 at 3/4 time. Melo is 10-12 from 3 point land.
Only 19 to get Olympic team point record in 4th.
August 3rd 2012 @ 8:55am
Chaos said | August 3rd 2012 @ 8:55am | Report comment
156-73.
29/46 Threes.
August 3rd 2012 @ 8:59am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 3rd 2012 @ 8:59am | Report comment
Haha! Excellent! Thank you Team USA, very timely of you!
My only saving grace is that it was Nigeria, after all.
August 3rd 2012 @ 9:00am
B.A Sports said | August 3rd 2012 @ 9:00am | Report comment
Even if you park the comparisons between the two sides I don’t think you can call this team a “Dream Team”. By definition that suggests it is the ideal most talented side but this side is missing players like Howard, Wade, Bosh and Griffin
August 3rd 2012 @ 10:23am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 3rd 2012 @ 10:23am | Report comment
Totally agree, B.A.
August 3rd 2012 @ 9:04am
Chris Chard said | August 3rd 2012 @ 9:04am | Report comment
Yeah! Everyone knows Roy and HG are the true Olympics ‘Dream Team’
August 3rd 2012 @ 9:06am
Johnno said | August 3rd 2012 @ 9:06am | Report comment
On a side note I hope mens olympic basketball moves to 16 teams. Teams like Turkey, croatia, Greece are better than Nigeria, NZ would be good to have in too the tall blacks can pull an upset of here or there. They have won a world championship bronze medal the aussies have not don’t that. Also teams like Germany and holland too im pretty certain are better than Nigeria. Is Italy at the games that surely is another world class team. they have won olympic medals before and recent , a team like Italy surely should be in the mens basketball.
-A team like Italy are ranked 7 in the world 2 spots higher than Australia, and turkey are ranked 5. But becoz of limited euro spots being allowed at the games they are not even there. It is a joke, Italy and turkey could actually win a medal and Nigeria have no chance it is a joke. Turkey won silver at last years world championship in turkey. And germany is ranked 14 and nigeria 21, and NZ is ranked 18.
Greece is ranked 4 in the world according to FIBA rankings and they are not even there coz of euro basketball number restrictions, it is a joke, when nigeria ranked 21 can be there ahead of Greece rank 4, turkey 5, and italy 7. And Great Britian is 43, they are the hosts so deserve to get a spot but, one gets the point about credibility and competivness.
-The only solution would be to include more teams maybe make it a 16 team Olympics, so more euro teams can get in.
August 3rd 2012 @ 10:41am
Wil said | August 3rd 2012 @ 10:41am | Report comment
Great article. I was thinking about this the other day and how much calling any Team USA a Dream Team is silly.
Even if the current Team USA could beat the Dream Team, that does not make them a Dream Team. The Dream Team designation means two things:
1. The first Professional Team, getting them to be able to play in the Olympics was a “dream”.
2. A competitive team of, at the time, basically the all time greats of their position. Very rare this could happen in any sport – another “dream”.
Magic, Jordan and Bird all on the same team taking on the world..? A dream come true.
August 3rd 2012 @ 11:58am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 3rd 2012 @ 11:58am | Report comment
Too true, Wil.