Let’s face it, my mum could coach NSW
By MG Burbank, 4 Aug 2012 MG Burbank is a Roar Guru
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Since his signing with the Parramatta Eels, there has been much ballyhoo surrounding Ricky Stuart and the NSW coaching job.
Should he coach NSW while coaching in the NRL? Should the job be stand-alone? Was that Jamal Idris ordering three happy meals at the Tweed Heads Maccas the other night?
All of these questions are redundant, except the last one (of course that was Jamal).
A cursory glance at some of the dominant Origin teams of the past 25 years reveals a truth that seems to have been missed by most of the league community.
Forget ‘culture’. Abandon all thoughts of needing a non-NRL coach with singular focus on Origin. Discontinue use of words like ‘desire’ and ‘unity’.
It’s simple: the team with the superior players wins the vast majority of the time.
The exception to the rule, of course, is the first chapter in Origin history, 1980-84. In those early days the two teams, despite apparent on-field parity, were vast distances apart when it came to motivation.
Queensland had a few champions: Lewis, Close, Boustead, Beetson, Reddy and Meninga. But it also had plenty of average talent surrounding them. New South Wales had Eadie, Raudonikis, Rogers, Edge, Young and Cronin and a solid support crew.
The difference, famously, was Queensland’s motivational and aggressive edge. In these first few years, one could say with a straight face that okay, maybe they did ‘want it more’.
The problem is that since then most administrators and journalists seem to have stopped paying attention.
In 1985, Steve Mortimer made history by allegedly rallying the NSW players and finally bringing ‘desire’ to a Blues jersey.
A closer look at the teams might show that something else showed up for NSW : dominant talent.
Queensland were ageing. Chris Close, Greg Dowling, Dave Brown, Paul McCabe and Colin Scott were in their last years. Mark Murray and Greg Conescu in the influential half/hooker positions were little more than average club players.
New South Wales, on the other hand, was bursting with talent. Michael O’Connor was an all-time great at his position, as were Garry Jack, Brett Kenny, Eric Grothe, Steve Roach, Ben Elias and Wayne Pearce. This team was fantastic, a step above Queensland and it duly proved that on the field.
NSW would sweep the 1986 series as Queensland waited for the next generation, which arrived in 1988. The Maroons would in turn sweep two series in a row with players like Lewis, Meninga, Shearer, Currie, Hancock, Vautin, Backo, Lindner and Bella dominating.
Now the 90s were upon us, and a bounty harvest for NSW: Daley, Fittler, McGregor, Stuart, Clyde, Sironen, Roberts, Mackay, Ettingshausen. Bingo. Three series in a row.
The late 90s swung back and forth until the early 2000s which were dominated by NSW. Queensland at that time had Lockyer at the less influential position of fullback and were getting by with players like Scott Prince at half. Compare that with two all-time great halves in Brad Fittler and Andrew Johns and you start to realise that NSW probably didn’t need an edge in desire to win.
However, since ’05 and the retirement of Fittler and Johns, NSW has suffered a history-making talent drought. Never before have the Blues had to survive for so long with so little scrumbase talent, not to mention being outclassed in the outside backs as well.
Thousands of words have since been written about ‘consistency’ in team selection. Why would ostensibly sane selectors continue to pick mediocre players who are being outplayed?
2012 saw NSW edge closer, for two reasons: they made up some ground in talent, thanks to a more dominant pack, an outstanding dummy half and Josh Morris’ defensive effort on Greg Inglis. And Queensland, without Lockyer, dropped down half a notch in attacking precision.
So now we look ahead to 2013. Enough procrastinating: give Ricky Stuart the job. Give my mum the job. For heaven’s sake, if you’re desperate, give Steve Kearney the gig (cheap shot).
Then do what Queensland has done: produce teams stacked with all-time great players, and let nature take its course.
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August 4th 2012 @ 6:46am
eagleJack said | August 4th 2012 @ 6:46am | Report comment
Fair point MG. The simple fact is that until we get a decent halfback we are in for more heartache south of the Tweed.
I have always backed Pearce as he is the best of a bad lot. I hope now that the pro-Wallace brigade have finally seen him for the useless park footballer that he is. But Pearce v Cronk/Thurston is not a fair fight. Completely different ends of the talent spectrum.
We have a slight glimmer of hope in young Adam Reynolds. But let’s see how he handles finals footy first before we talk Origin for him. Our other hope is for QLD to loan us DCE for a couple of series. Then we might see a difference on the scoreboard.
August 4th 2012 @ 6:46am
Gremlin said | August 4th 2012 @ 6:46am | Report comment
Hi MG,
The mighty Eels have proven over the last two weeks that a healthy amount of desire ( more than the other team ) will win 9 out of 10 games.
Wheather Stuart is the right man for the job is another qiestion. If club coach’s are to be considered again Hasler has to be the the front runner. Especially given Stuarts/ Fultons stuff up of SOO 1, Burher ( and I don’t blame the kid ).
August 4th 2012 @ 7:44am
MG Burbank said | August 4th 2012 @ 7:44am | Report comment
Gremlin, with all due respect, that is insane. 9 out of 10 games?? So what you’re saying is that superior talent wins 1 out of 10 games. Obviously that is just crazy.
There’s a reason why the best players are paid the most money- they are the most influential in deciding the outcome of games. Parramatta have been playing better and their most influential player- Chris Sandow- has returned to some sort of form. And yes, they have been playing teams in a motivational slump. But when the games that MATTER role around, the superior team wins- probably 9.5 times out of 10.
August 4th 2012 @ 7:49am
Rabbitz said | August 4th 2012 @ 7:49am | Report comment
If you leave out the “job for the boys” element, how on earth is it a “full-time” job to coach NSW?
They play 3 games a year.
The players aren’t selected until a couple of weeks prior to the games.
Surely in a well drilled professional game then there are few ‘new tactics’ to dream up.
So what does the coach and entourage do for the other 45 weeks of the year?
Would that money be better spent developing grass roots teams or spotting up and coming juniors?
August 4th 2012 @ 5:55pm
MG Burbank said | August 4th 2012 @ 5:55pm | Report comment
Absolutely right Rabbitz. This stuff is all overblown. Mal Meninga has admitted he can’t take much of the credit for Queensland’s success. He’s telling the truth.
August 4th 2012 @ 8:25am
Gaz said | August 4th 2012 @ 8:25am | Report comment
MG,
Paul Vautins coached mob of nobody’s white wash of the Blues in 1995 kind of shoots you in the foot does it not?. It really does come down to coaching and above all attitude and above all future planning I’m afraid. But I guess it’s another reason why NSW arn’t winning and by the way your Mum would do a better job, Stuart has failed at every coaching position he’s held.
August 4th 2012 @ 5:54pm
MG Burbank said | August 4th 2012 @ 5:54pm | Report comment
Gaz, this is hilarious- STUART WON A TITLE WITH THE ROOSTERS AND TOOK THEM TO THREE GFS IN A ROW.
Also, 1995 is anomalous for a very simple reason : SUPER LEAGUE. Yes, Vautin’s team was less talented but I think we can throw that year out. If you’ll notice, NSW swept Queensland the very next year.
August 4th 2012 @ 9:37pm
Gaz said | August 4th 2012 @ 9:37pm | Report comment
Everyone, sorry, almost everyone knows Gus was behind those wins and you only want to throw 95 out the window because it suits your story. Besides if he went that well at the Roosters why did he leave?
August 4th 2012 @ 8:54am
steve b said | August 4th 2012 @ 8:54am | Report comment
MG Scott Woodward said yesterday that his 11 yr old could do a better job than Stuart ,,and now your putting your mum up for the job ,, i asked my better half would she consider but she declined ,,but reckons her dad who coaches u)8 s on the central coast could do a good job ,,with so many talented people you would think they could have come up with someone by now,,my sons kck boxing coach said he would like to give a go !!
August 4th 2012 @ 5:53pm
MG Burbank said | August 4th 2012 @ 5:53pm | Report comment
I vote for the kickboxing coach. Let’s see NSW get intimidated after he’s through with them.
August 4th 2012 @ 9:51am
old fart said | August 4th 2012 @ 9:51am | Report comment
I recognise all the players from the 90s except Bingo. What position did he play?
August 4th 2012 @ 5:49pm
MG Burbank said | August 4th 2012 @ 5:49pm | Report comment
Darren Bingo. Left wing for the Hunter Mariners in Super League.
August 4th 2012 @ 11:04am
JETT said | August 4th 2012 @ 11:04am | Report comment
Memo to MG BURBANK: Desire ,Unity and Culture are the very things that make STATE OF ORIGIN What it is.How many times have Queensland ran N.S.W down when it looked like the blues were going to win ? Was that because they had superior players or was it DESIRE to climb out of the hole they were in ? Very rarely are Queensland ever put away and kept at a comfortable distance . This has been true , regardless of who had the superior team all through origin history. If we are to be honest about it , Queensland’s DESIRE , UNITY AND CULTURE have been strong and still growing since day 1 of origin . whereas N.S.W seems to muster the right chemistry for short periods of time and then we have to start again. I think it is this the difference between the 2 states .
August 4th 2012 @ 5:52pm
MG Burbank said | August 4th 2012 @ 5:52pm | Report comment
Sorry Jett- I don’t know what those words mean. More cliches. You remember the times that Queensland came back- what about all the times they didn’t? NSW have put up 50 points- what happened to Queensland’s ‘culture’ then?
Take each game on its merits and don’t come up with narratives that don’t exist in reality. There’s no ‘starting again’- there’s simply picking your best players and hoping they’re better than the other team. For the past 7 years, they haven’t been. Simple as that.
August 4th 2012 @ 6:57pm
yewonk said | August 4th 2012 @ 6:57pm | Report comment
just checking is your mum born in queensland or nsw?
August 6th 2012 @ 9:31am
Sammy Grazer said | August 6th 2012 @ 9:31am | Report comment
MG Burbankanthal – enough is enough, take your mask and cape off and reveal yourself.
“Show yourself Spaniard!”