Gus Gould should coach the NSW Blues
By Ryan O'Connell, 7 Aug 2012 Ryan O'Connell is a Roar Expert
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Last week, Ricky Stuart stated that if he was unable to continue coaching New South Wales in State of Origin next year, then Phil ‘Gus’ Gould should be given the reins of the Blues.
I believe it to be one of the more astute observations that Stuart has made.
Read more: Stuart steps down as NSWRL Origin coach
On Sunday, Stuart confirmed that he will not be coaching the Blues in 2013, as the Parramatta Eels will need to be his sole coaching focus next year.
Stuart’s decision will only increase the speculation about Gould returning to Origin football, and I can see no reason why Gould shouldn’t be appointed to coach the Blues.
In fact, the more you analyse it, the more the decision becomes a complete no-brainer. Gus ticks all the boxes:
The Blues need someone with experience and a good coaching record? Gould remains the Blues most successful coach, winning six series, drawing one, and losing one.
The NSWRL remain adamant that the NSW coach cannot be employed as a full time coach at an NRL club? Gould is not currently coaching an NRL side, though he obviously has an attachment to the Penrith Panthers.
The Blues coach must be someone who definitively understands Origin football? Gould’s pre-game soliloquies to camera clearly demonstrate that he ‘gets’ what Origin is all about.
The Blues coach needs to be passionate about New South Wales? Gould bleeds sky blue.
The Blues coach needs to be respected by the playing group? When it comes to rugby league, few coaches are more respected than Gus.
The next coach needs to build on the foundation laid down by Ricky Stuart, rather than simply starting all over again? Gould and Stuart are cut from the same cloth, and Stuart has lent on Gould for advice and support many times during his coaching career. If anyone can replace Stuart and cause minimal disruption to the team, it’s Gould.
The Blues coach needs to add to the theatre and spectacle of Origin by engaging in some banter with Queensland? Gus is almost overqualified in this department, and north of the border, he is even more hated that Stuart.
Yet, all those questions, and the fact Gould answers them, are somewhat irrelevant. What’s most important for New South Wales is that Gould is a great coach. Forget all the peripheral stuff: Gus is master tactician and outstanding motivator.
He understand rugby league like a few others, and if anyone can get the best out of the Blues players, it’s Gould.
The Blues didn’t lack passion and commitment in the 2012 series, but their tactics and execution left a lot to be desired. If I could choose any individual to rectify those issues, the shortlist would include Des Hasler, Craig Bellamy, Wayne Bennett, Tim Sheens, Peter Sterling, Andrew Johns and Gus Gould.
From that list, Bellamy has had his chance, Bennett is a Queenslander, and both, along with Hasler, are full time NRL coaches. As is Sheens, who is also the Australian coach.
Meanwhile, Sterling doesn’t seem to want the job, and Johns has already declared himself as no chance.
That leaves Gould. Yet far from it simply being a case of ‘last man standing’, if I ranked all those candidates, Gould would still be my number one choice anyway.
Not everyone will agree with me. Unsurprisingly, News Limited’s Phil ‘Buzz’ Rothfield has already declared that Gus is ‘yesterday’s man’ and that the Blues should not appoint him. That’s just about all the endorsement for Gould that I need: if Buzz thinks it’s a bad idea, then it must be the right one.
Gus, it’s your state on the phone. They need you.
Are you going to answer the call?
Ryan is an ex-representative basketballer who shot too much, and a (very) medium pace bowler. He's been with The Roar as an expert since February 2011, has written for the Seven Network, and been a regular on ABC radio. Ryan tweets from @RyanOak.
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August 7th 2012 @ 5:37am
Johnno said | August 7th 2012 @ 5:37am | Report comment
NO NO NO NO NO. As Gus would say. And QD should bring back 1995 fatty vautin to coach the maroons,. Would be a big step backwards to bring back Gus it is bit of a dinosaur now in coaching. Same if NSW bring back tommy rodonikus and cattle dog chant that would be a step backwards too.
-I think steve folkes deserves a go. An ex origin player. Graham Murray or brian smith if he quits the roosters would be handy too.
August 7th 2012 @ 9:58am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 9:58am | Report comment
If you think Folkes, Murray or Smith are better options to coach NSW than Gus Gould, then you’re mad.
And putting Gould in the same sentence as ‘coaches’ like Fatty and Tommy Raudonikis is a massive insult to Gould’s credentials and ability.
August 7th 2012 @ 2:00pm
Bazza said | August 7th 2012 @ 2:00pm | Report comment
I’m with you Ryan, Johnno’s thinking is why NSW cannot win an Origin series at the present time. Origin footy is more about the culture and the environment that is created within the team and whole Origin system than pure footy coaching. Of course the coach needs to have the right game strategies and tactics, but not just that. That is why Gus, love him or loathe him, is the best man for NSW. Gus understands Origin. The Press down there is also a problem for NSW, they are too quick to criticise, they need to learn the art of critiquing, there is a huge difference.
August 7th 2012 @ 8:01pm
Johnno said | August 7th 2012 @ 8:01pm | Report comment
Well the problem with Gus is he has been out of rugby league for so long , if he were to come back now he would be out of touch with the game.
August 7th 2012 @ 8:05pm
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 8:05pm | Report comment
Out of rugby league? He’s the General Manager of an NRL club! And he’s one of rugby league’s most prominent media identities!
August 7th 2012 @ 5:51pm
Damn Straight said | August 7th 2012 @ 5:51pm | Report comment
Brian Smith? Seriously?
August 7th 2012 @ 6:28am
steve b said | August 7th 2012 @ 6:28am | Report comment
Ryan Gus has said on many occasions that he will have nothing more more to do with the NSWRL ,,what was all that about ? And he has also said he has enough jobs at the moment ,,,so do you think he will go back on his word and take on the job ? i think Gus would be the right man for the job but it sounds like their might have to be some big apologies from a few to even get him to thimk about it ..Their seems to be a big push for Daley you dont tthink he could do the job ? What about Follkes or Dymock they seem to be a more popular choice if we can;t have anyone who is already coaching ..And their seems to be very few who give Barret or Fittler any chance ,,but if we are to believe Gus he wont be the next coach for NSW …
August 7th 2012 @ 9:58am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 9:58am | Report comment
Hey Steve, there are whispers from a ‘source’ that Gus would be interested in taking on the Blues role again.
August 7th 2012 @ 10:22am
Albo said | August 7th 2012 @ 10:22am | Report comment
Of course Gus would be interested ! Its limelight plus more cash isn’t it ?
After all he has done such a marvelous job out at Penrith having virtually clinched them the wooden spoon, caused massive player unrest includuing losing their two best players to Cronulla. Sure seems like ideal credentials for an origin coach !
Fair dinkum Ryan, NSW don’t even need a coach. They need a half back and on field general !
I’d give the coaching job to Ronnie Palmer. At least he would spend more time out on the field with the team !
Apart from that, we should doctor the birth certificate of Daly Cherry-Evans to get him into the Blues camp and give us someone to run the team around the park.
August 7th 2012 @ 10:31am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 10:31am | Report comment
“NSW don’t even need a coach”.
Wow.
August 7th 2012 @ 1:54pm
rl said | August 7th 2012 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
It’s not that crazy a notion – Qld haven’t had one for years!!!
Seriously though, Qld have had the benefit of about 4 on-field generals running the show, giving Mal a pretty easy run. NSW don’t have that so yes, they do need to be a bit more strategic about their selection of coach.
August 9th 2012 @ 10:33am
Albo said | August 9th 2012 @ 10:33am | Report comment
That is my exact point rl !
As if Mal Meninga is the reason for QLD dominance over NSW ? Yeah right !
Seriously, you and I could coach NSW with the same success as the past 7 series.
If you don’t have the key on field cattle, it will make no difference who is coaching them !
The key cattle are your on-field general(s). Your Lockyers, Thurstons and Cam Smiths ! These guys understand what is going on out on the park and have the ability to lead their team around to suit the circumstances.
We haven’t had one of these generals since Joey Johns, and I can’t see where the next one for NSW is coming from.
Any young generals coming through ( eg Cherry-Evans) all seem to be from QLD !
Seems we here in NSW are only grooming meatheads in the juniors, not game readers with the ability to run the team around the park.
August 7th 2012 @ 10:32am
Mango Jack said | August 7th 2012 @ 10:32am | Report comment
It’s not based on place of birth, albo. First club. Just saying ….
August 7th 2012 @ 7:56am
Bondy. said | August 7th 2012 @ 7:56am | Report comment
I’ve never understood the drama of Stuart not being origin coach whilst also coaching at club level,what do people think he’s going to do sabatoge it for us ! ,or does the role simply give him to much supposed power in selections.
If not I think Gus would be a good choice pro athletes dont need to be taught, its just the quite word in the ear every now to keep them ticking over.
August 7th 2012 @ 8:09am
George said | August 7th 2012 @ 8:09am | Report comment
We need less of these coaches who can talk up a good game plan. Ricky Stuart has been the best at talking his teams up and apart from winning the GF with the Roosters which wasnt his squad he has done nothing as a coach and failed. Gus has been out of the game too long and should only be used as a motivator.
What NSW needs is a coach who will do the job with the players, have no favourites and play people in position. Front rowers in the front, Locks in position, Halves in halves and wingers and centres in there respective position. get some balance in the team and use the bloody bench more efficiently. 2 big men on there, a mobile big man and a utility.
I dont know who that coach is or should be but it certainly shouldnt be Gus, Stuart, Daley or Barrett.
Think outside the square NSWRL!
August 7th 2012 @ 9:56am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 9:56am | Report comment
Gus has been out of the game too long? He never left the game! He probably watches more rugby league than most first grade coaches, and he certainly knows a lot more than a lot of them.
August 7th 2012 @ 11:09am
George said | August 7th 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
With that thought process, Ray Warren has watched more games than anyone else, Same as David Middleton, Does that make them more knowledgable that your average coach?
August 7th 2012 @ 11:23am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 11:23am | Report comment
The point is, Gus was a master coach, and hasn’t strayed too far from the game.
You sound smart enough to have understood that was the point I was trying to make. Am I right?
August 7th 2012 @ 12:17pm
George said | August 7th 2012 @ 12:17pm | Report comment
I understand your point in parts, but still dont agree with you.
Im a Gus fan, his ranting on TV irk me abit but overall i think he is great, but his time has passed and we can remember him for being NSW greatest ever coach.
Look at Kenny Dalglish, came back to a ship that has loved him for many years but right now needed a solid unemotional unattached leader and got sacked 18 moths later, sadly Liverpool’s greatest ever manager made Liverpool look like rubbish.
August 7th 2012 @ 1:34pm
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 1:34pm | Report comment
Under what criteria has Gus’ time passed?
August 7th 2012 @ 2:59pm
George said | August 7th 2012 @ 2:59pm | Report comment
It passed when he had a champion team at the Roosters yet was always the bridesmaid then handed over reigns to Sticky who won them a premiership, then decided to hate Stuart for being succesful with “his” team.
But let me leave with with these words Ryan as i should really be doing some work.
If Gould takes the gig, i WILL support him. as i always have supported NSW.
August 7th 2012 @ 5:00pm
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 5:00pm | Report comment
Fair enough, those are valid points. I’m not sure I necessarily agree 100%, but it’s a more than fair and balanced assessment.
August 7th 2012 @ 8:42am
oikee said | August 7th 2012 @ 8:42am | Report comment
Gus trying to rebirth Penrith, juggling tv appearences and calling Penrith games. Now Stuart is trying to get him another half million a year to coach the Blues for 6 weeks. Come-on.
When is this nonsense going to stop. Gould has retired from coaching, he should be retired from commentating on Penrith games as well.
The NRL, or should i say NSW rugby league comp, our so-called national code is so one-eyed and biased towards NSW clubs it is no longer funny. The refs are running the game, penalising teams out of the contest.
5 penalities to the local Sydney team means a extra 10 sets of tackles for the away team, happens every week, the away team is that buggered they have no chance of recovery.
Then on top of that you have a few dud video ref calls and its all over. I pray every week the boys in pink dont send calls to the video man. It only brings heart-acke.
This game wont improve until NSW are removed from making decisions, now we have Toovey and Hasler running the show.
Hasler might as well take credit for removing Gallop from league, his soul was cleansed by his constant whigning from him and Manly, now we have Toovey and Hasler trying to cleanse the game of the refs, constant whigning every weekend.
The issues are bigger than just the refs, the game needs to introduce Coach calls, get rid of the blind video refs who always make the wrong calls, overhaul the video structure so we have less calls going to the video refs.
It really is a simple fix, made extremely hard because we have Hollywood Harragon running the show, he is a dinosaur who wont let go.
Daley can coach NSW. He has Barrett along side him, plus 20 personal coaches. How many more do NSW want.
More important issues are fixing the knock-on rule, where a ball is dislodged forward and then we have the video ref like a drunkin fool replaying this incident to see if the ball was knocked out by the tackler. ?? Come-on you fools, who cares, the ball has gone forward after that and it should just be a scrum.
The game looks like a amuteur game of school playground footy because of these stupid rules and a video ref looking at balls that have gone forward, then to be called play on.
It looks dumb, it is dumb, you cant get past this is plain awful TV look, a complete dogs breakfast for veiwers.
Same as a torso try, not grounded by your hands.
Just get rid of the torso rule, it really is that simple. To score a try, it must be grounded by your hands. ?? Is it really that complicated. ? Yes, when your rugby league it is, the game that makes rules harder than what they should be.
Just get Daley to coach, he can have Gus holding his hand if he needs him.
August 7th 2012 @ 10:09am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 10:09am | Report comment
Good rant, oikee. Not 100% sure what it has to do with the topic at hand, but you did bring it back to Gus at the end.
As always, I love your passion, but when it comes to debating who the NSW coach should be, I’ll naturally take the opinion of any Queenslander with a grain of salt!
As outlined in the article, Gus is the best man for the job, and he should therefore get the gig. Simple.
August 7th 2012 @ 11:02am
Mango Jack said | August 7th 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
Ryan, oikee’s just proven your point about how much Gus is hated up north! My suspicion is that they are also a bit scared of him too. Not that oikee would ever admit it.
August 7th 2012 @ 11:23am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 11:23am | Report comment
I concur, Mango Jack.
August 8th 2012 @ 8:51am
soapit said | August 8th 2012 @ 8:51am | Report comment
oikee we’ve really got to get you a 10 minute weekly slot on tv.
August 7th 2012 @ 9:09am
B.A Sports said | August 7th 2012 @ 9:09am | Report comment
I Agree 100% Ryan. It is an absolute no brainer. All of the alternatives being talked about – Johns, Barrett, Fittler, Daley – all great players, a few were good captains and you could have a beer with all of them, but none command respect or capture a room the way Gould would.
And if Nine lose the rights (fingers crossed) then Gould will need a ticket to go – You don’t get a better seat than the coaches box at ANZ.
August 7th 2012 @ 9:17am
Old Hand said | August 7th 2012 @ 9:17am | Report comment
Gus doesn’t know the rules of the game.
Fittler cannot be understood – “Nee score lo-a points in sen arf” – needs Ian Chappell to repeat everything “Bra Filler” says, so we can understand him.
Laurie (git) Daley (master tautologist) – semi-literate unfortunately; was a good player, but you can’t communicate if you can’t speak English. I suppose Blues players would have a different hair style each week!
Don’t know about Barrett – but he wins on a process of elimination basis.
Fittler’s nickname by the way “Field goal” i.e., “drop kick”
August 7th 2012 @ 6:57pm
BennO said | August 7th 2012 @ 6:57pm | Report comment
That made me laugh, Old Hand.
August 7th 2012 @ 9:24am
PGNEWC said | August 7th 2012 @ 9:24am | Report comment
Yep Folkes, Dymock or Georgalis not Lozza ,Barrett or Gus– move outside the current clique
August 7th 2012 @ 9:43am
B.A Sports said | August 7th 2012 @ 9:43am | Report comment
Folkes, Dymock and Georgallis?! They can’t even get NRL jobs, why would you put them in charge of a rep team?
August 7th 2012 @ 10:01am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 10:01am | Report comment
Totally agree B.A. – I don’t think it’s a ‘clique’, it’s simply a case of only a few individuals truly being qualified to do the job.
August 7th 2012 @ 10:48am
rl said | August 7th 2012 @ 10:48am | Report comment
Because the other mob has done pretty well of late with a bloke who shouldn’t be let near an NRL side, that’s why!
Not that I feel obliged to give tips to NSW, but I reckon The Brick should be let loose on them.
August 7th 2012 @ 11:14am
George said | August 7th 2012 @ 11:14am | Report comment
As apposed to Meninga being the greatest NRL coach prior to getting the QLD gig?!?! Also the brains behind the QLD dominance is Michael Hagan who is another guy who cant get an NRL gig, so it shows you dont need to be a big name with a big game,You have to have a good plan with good coaches around you (helps to have big game players too) and things will work out for you.
We have to remember that when Meninga took over NSW had won 3 in a row and the dominant players that QLD have today were only young guys with talent!
August 7th 2012 @ 11:37am
Ryan O'Connell said | August 7th 2012 @ 11:37am | Report comment
Completely copying Queensland is not necessarily the recipe for success.
All you hear now is:
“We need a full time coach”
“The coach can’t be an NRL coach”
“Meninga wasn’t a great NRL coach, let’s get an average ex-NRL coach too”
“Get him assistants like Neil Henry and Michael Hagan”
It all conveniently overlooks the fact that the Maroons had had the greatest rugby league side I’ve ever laid eyes on.
August 7th 2012 @ 12:11pm
B.A Sports said | August 7th 2012 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
Agree Ryan
So from reading the above, it doesn’t matter who the coach is along as NSW have Thurston, Slater, Lockyer, Smith, Inglis, Hodges, Thaiday, Scott etc.. they will win regardless of the quality of the coach…. oh wait….
NSW don’t have players of the same quality so they need a superior coach and game plan.
August 7th 2012 @ 2:58pm
rl said | August 7th 2012 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
Qld’s coach in 95 was clearly the superior coach and tactician, right? The results mighty suggest that, but we all know the reality.
August 7th 2012 @ 12:11pm
George said | August 7th 2012 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
No, it doesnt gaurantee success but it cant hurt to try it either!
We need a full time coach because it isnt fair on the team that has a origin coach coaching a club, i cant stand Parra and love seeing them lose but why would they spend millions on getting him (and spend money on sacking a coach mid contract) to try get success at the club and lose him for weeks on end during origin?!?! that isnt fair on the members of the club, not in this day and age anyways..
And yes they do have the greatest side but it was a bunch of young guys sprinkled with good veteran players when they started the 7 year run..
What we need is to identify the good players and get them in, then stick with them.
Jarrod Mullen is a good player with more skill in one hand than Pearce yet we persist with the playboy bunny Pearce because w\he plays for glamour club Roosters! Maloney had one good season last year with the Warriors but whats the bet he gets a run next season with NSW.
And heres one for you, Why cant the team carry Ennis and Farah, they are both versitile enough to play in the halves if need be. both ultra competetive proud NS Welshmen but we dont so we pick Buhrer then only give him 5 minutes then drop him altogether and say the same line, he’ll be good for the run.. that kid wont play orgin again! The only good thing for him was the 20K he got.
Alot of things dont make sense and it starts with the coach.
August 7th 2012 @ 2:56pm
rl said | August 7th 2012 @ 2:56pm | Report comment
Completely ignoring Queensland is not necessarily the recipe for success either. Nor is overlooking the fact that NSW, arguably the better side for the last series (possibky the last 2), again went within a poof-teenth of winning. (and that’s not even taking into account that NSW were ROBBED by the refs)
No one is suggesting you find a hobo and make him coach. NSW clearly have the cattle, and the game plan, to do the job. FFS, just make sure it’s not someone who will potentially disrupt the current team harmony and chemistry. Not sure Gus is your man – he just won’t be able to help himself.
August 7th 2012 @ 10:31am
PLANKO said | August 7th 2012 @ 10:31am | Report comment
Ryan this is Oikee gold he has gone from your article to giving it to Manly …. LOL…. He will get his mojo back if Brisbane get over the Eagles at Suncorp soon.
August 7th 2012 @ 10:35am
Dan said | August 7th 2012 @ 10:35am | Report comment
Has to be gus!
Greatest Nsw coach ever, that will do me just fine.
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