What impact will Sir Graham have on Argentinian rugby?
By David Lord, 16 Aug 2012 David Lord is a Roar Expert
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All Blacks rugby coach Graham Henry attends a press conference with the Webb Ellis trophy after his team's Rugby World Cup final win over France at Eden Park, Auckland, New Zealand
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It will be interesting to see what impact Sir Graham Henry has on Argentina when they debut in the Rugby Championship early Sunday morning in Cape Town at Newlands.
The former All Black-World Cup winning coach has been mentoring the Pumas over the last few weeks, honing their major skills in scrummaging and mauling.
Sir Graham had a phenomenal record as All Black coach, winning 88 of 103 internationals for an 85.4% success rate.
Next closest:
* His predecessor John Mitchell with 82.1% from 28 Tests.
* Wallaby coach Rod Macqueen with 79.1% from 43.
* All Black John Hart with 75.6% from 41.
* Springbok Nick Mallett with 71.1% from 38.
* So too Englishman Sir Clive Woodward with 71.1% from 83.
Admittedly, Sir Graham had quality “cattle” at his disposal where rugby is a religion in New Zealand. But he still had to get the job done.
And that he did: the Rugby World Cup last year, never lost a Bledisloe Cup series on his watch, won five Tri-Nations tournaments, and thumped the British and Irish Lions 3-zip.
The advent of Argentina as an addition to the Tri-Nations is exciting. But I feel for the players with the huge extra time in the air involved on top of a gruelling and travel weary Super Rugby tournament.
That, unfortunately, goes with the territory.
In advance, it would be fair to say the Pumas will boast the best pack of the four nations. Their whole structure and culture has been built around up front.
That has always been the case.
Remember the massive difference Puma prop Topo Rodriguez made to the Wallaby scrum when he migrated to Australia in 1984. He was instrumental in the Wallabies capturing their one and only Grand Slam of England, Ireland, Scotland, and Wales that year and going on to regain the Bledisloe Cup.
Another Puma prop, Patricio Noriega, did likewise to the Wallaby scrum when he migrated in 1996.
Whether the Puma backs can score enough points in this tournament to be competitive will be the question.
Currently the All Blacks are rightfully ranked number one in the world, with 91.45 points, with the Wallabies second on 87.05, Boks third with 84.87, and the Pumas eighth on 79.25.
But this is the first time, apart from the RWC every four years, they have been in constant elite company. They will improve their standing immeasurably and quickly in the Rugby Championship cauldron.
A lot of attention will be paid to new Boks’ coach, Heyneke Meyer, replacing the wacky but always amusing Peter de Villiers.
While de Villiers was an advocate of running rugby, Meyer is of the old school where power and physicality are predominant. The All Blacks, Wallabies, and Pumas will know they have played against the Boks.
The bruising will be deep and painful.
I’ll leave the Wallabies and All Blacks until tomorrow’s preview. But in the interim, let’s have a look at the ref’s schedule for the men-in-gold this inaugural tournament.
Saturday night will be Irishman Alain Rolland, the following Saturday at Eden Park, Welshman Nigel Owens.
* September 8 in Perth against the Boks – Owens again.
* September 15 at the Gold Coast against Argentina – Englishman Wayne Barnes.
* September 29 at Loftus against the Boks – Rolland again.
* October 6 at Rosario against Argentina – South African Craig Joubert.
* And October 30 at Suncorp for the third Bledisloe Cup clash – Joubert again.
Kiwi-born Steve Walsh will be Australia’s only referee on duty when he controls the Argentine clash with the Boks at Mendoza on Saturday week.
So strap yourselves in folks, this is going to be rugby bonanza.
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August 16th 2012 @ 5:03am
biltongbek said | August 16th 2012 @ 5:03am | Report comment
I think Argentina will be more impressive than most expect for a few reasons.
Henry will bring a more professional approach to their preperation, the squad will have had more time than probably forever to prepare, they will be highly motivated and emotions will run high, just think back to how far passion and motivation brought them in the 2007 RWC and I am pretty confident they will come up with a number of new facets to their gameplan.
With Henry there to guide them they will be confident of hitting the first match running.
The Boks must start well, hit the Argies hard and repetitively and not allow themto carry that confidence past the first 20 minutes, the Boks must absorb that emotively driven passion and negate any potential threats with execution and discipline.
Will be a great game.
August 16th 2012 @ 7:32am
nickoldschool said | August 16th 2012 @ 7:32am | Report comment
The Pumas have been exposed to professionalism for a while now. Some French coaches have worked in Argentina in the past decade as consultants and although i think Henry’s inpout is valuable, he isnt going to revolutionise anything. Should the Pumas do well during this RC, it would be their achievement rather than Henry’s.
Unfortunately i think we have to get ready for some fans coming up with a ‘see, Sir Graham changed them dramatically’. He is one coach/consultant among others, nothing less, nothing more. The Pumas have played RWC semis in the past without him.
August 16th 2012 @ 7:36am
mania said | August 16th 2012 @ 7:36am | Report comment
agree NOS. if anything henry is there helping them with the little things. any success that the puma’s have can only have a small fraction attributed to henry. puma’s are already a very good side.
August 16th 2012 @ 8:02am
Justin2 said | August 16th 2012 @ 8:02am | Report comment
So true Nick, the casual observer will shout about Henry but the fact is the Pumas have been a good team for a long time.
August 16th 2012 @ 4:30pm
Kuruki said | August 16th 2012 @ 4:30pm | Report comment
I don’t think he has a major coaching role.
August 16th 2012 @ 5:18am
mania said | August 16th 2012 @ 5:18am | Report comment
agree that the puma’s will improve drammatically but i reckon they’re better than most fans are giving them credit for. there will be a few upsets and puma’s game will lift because of them.
August 16th 2012 @ 5:38am
Johnno said | August 16th 2012 @ 5:38am | Report comment
Henry had success with developing a welsh team as well. I see similarities there to the Welsh team that Henry developed around 2000-2001 they really stepped up with him. And I think Grahame Henry likes to teach he was a teacher and he enjoys the challenge of developing a team from the bottom and remodelling it for the better eg Auckland blues, wales, Ab’s 2008-11. All his teams but the british lions got better. The lions team of 2001 is the only team that has copped really harsh stick format he media, and the ill fated rotation policy , but hay he had a tough Q/F vs the french where everything just about went wrong losing all your 5/8′s just look at how the QLD reds folded vs the sharks with no 5/8 on the pitch. And mike harris copped a head knock that’s why he didn’t go to 5/8.
I think Henry likes this challenge and he will be a winner with it, he loves rugby loves coaching he said himself he can’t get away from it he loves it. Him an Alan Jones would make a great co-coach team im surprised no one has asked Alan Jones to do some high performance work surly Alan Jones would be better than David Nucifora , as Jones did almost get th wallaby job bcd in 2007 only just beaten by Robbie Deans.
So yes Henry will be a success no question with the Argies who will be mighty tough to beat at home.
-My only concern with the Henry role is the conflict of interest issue. Henry has a contract with the NZRU as a consultant and is helping the Auckland blues out, yet Henry will be plotting against a NZRU team the Ab’s, i hope that is not a conflict of interest for Henry.
August 16th 2012 @ 9:57am
A Bedeian said | August 16th 2012 @ 9:57am | Report comment
I think Gatland is the one who has developed the Welsh. When he went there he found the whole organisation needed to be sorted. Bill Sweetenham of swimming fame was engaged as a consultant and gave them a blueprint on how to set up the admin division and the rugby division. Thge CEO and Gatland I believe used the report and Gatland then used his undoubted skills to lead the coaching team.
August 16th 2012 @ 5:58am
Justin2 said | August 16th 2012 @ 5:58am | Report comment
Interesting to see if Henrycan figure out the Boks, they were his nemesis the last few years…
August 16th 2012 @ 6:19am
Darwin Stubbie said | August 16th 2012 @ 6:19am | Report comment
Wasn’t his role a 7 week stint to coach the coaches and look at player development – with no input in actually coaching the pumas … So how can he be having a hand in coaching their pack ?
Given the initial brief I’d say he would have minimal impact outside of preparing their coaching staff what to expect in this competition
August 16th 2012 @ 6:36am
Worlds biggest said | August 16th 2012 @ 6:36am | Report comment
is Henry with the Argies for the whole tournament or just in the lead up ? Perhaps his NZRU contract will be more geared towards helping the Blues get back on track. The Waratahs would be wise to do the same with Rod Macqueen.
August 16th 2012 @ 7:11am
tc said | August 16th 2012 @ 7:11am | Report comment
This is all good especially Argentina being in the Rugby Championship in the first place, but the only way they are going to come to our level on a consistent basis is if they get two teams in the Super Comp, otherwise it just simply won’t be enough .
August 16th 2012 @ 7:56am
sheek said | August 16th 2012 @ 7:56am | Report comment
I trust SGH will have an enormously positive effect on Argentine rugby.
In the wooden spoon stakes, I reckon it ought to be the Wallabies who should be most nervous.
Ouch……….!
August 16th 2012 @ 8:04am
Justin2 said | August 16th 2012 @ 8:04am | Report comment
Yet the talent we have is beyond what the Pumas could dream of.
August 16th 2012 @ 12:24pm
kiwi said | August 16th 2012 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
If Argentina could lend three tight forwards to Australia, in exchange for three backs, you’d have two really good teams!
August 16th 2012 @ 3:21pm
sheek said | August 16th 2012 @ 3:21pm | Report comment
Justin2,
True enough, except the Pumas are strongest where it counts – in the front 5.
We have all these wonderful fancy dans in the backline, except our forwards cannot secure them quality possession often enough.
It’s laughable when some fans talk about Cooper as some kind of saviour, yet forget about how important it is to find players up front who’re supposed to get the ball to him.
We Aussies really don’t understand rugby at all……….
August 16th 2012 @ 9:45am
A Bedeian said | August 16th 2012 @ 9:45am | Report comment
Henry’s impact on Argentina will be about as valuable as it was to Wales when he coached them. There are no AB’s in either side so Henry won’t be much use. Their victories will come from their own motivation.
August 16th 2012 @ 9:49am
joeb said | August 16th 2012 @ 9:49am | Report comment
“What impact will Sir Graham have on Argentinian rugby?”
A very positive one, we can be sure…