How can the Wallabies beat the All Blacks on Saturday?
By The Roar, 17 Aug 2012
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The Roar’s rugby experts have put their heads together to see if they can find a way that the Wallabies can defeat the mighty All Blacks.
Roar expert Spiro Zavos, on playing smart rugby with a winning mentality:
The short answer answer to how the Wallabies can defeat the All Blacks on Saturday night is that they need to have more points on the score board at the end of the Test than the visitors. Boom, boom.
The longer answer involves things like a game plan that exploits the weaknesses (if any) of the All Blacks and, more importantly, the strengths of the Wallabies.
That strength I would suggest revolves around the knowledge that last season at Brisbane the Wallabies blew the All Blacks out of the match in the first half.
The All Blacks had no answer to the very fast game played by the Wallabies, the accurate chip kicking and the concentration on running the big Wallaby loose forwards (especially Radike Samo) down the middle of the field.
Then in the next Test, the semi-final of the 2011 RWC, the Wallabies were comfortably beaten because they couldn’t get their big runners attacking the All Blacks halves and because the Wallabies didn’t believe that they could win the match in the cauldron of Eden Park.
You would think, that playing at home at ANZ Stadium will give the Wallabies a huge lift. The arena will a sea of gold. The referee, Alain Rolland, will be under no illusion if the All Blacks get up to any nonsense (and even when they don’t).
The confidence of having a home crowd behind them should put sting and pace into the way the Wallabies play.
As the ARU have been spruiking in support of the Wallabies and as a reference to the Eden Park match: ‘This time they’re not playing at home.’
One aspect of the preparation that is encouraging for Wallaby supporters is that Andrew Blades, the scrum coach, is determined to have his pack scrum efficiently and legally. And he is confident that the pack is up to this challenge against an All Black pack that is probably the best scrummaging unit (we haven’t seen the Pumas yet) in world rugby.
The All Blacks, like the Crusaders, often use their scrumpower to kill off opposition attacking situations and to get kickable penalties to win tight matches. It is very important then that Nathan Sharpe and Sitaleki Timani pick up their scrumming powerright from the beginning of the match.
As the Wallabies know, international referees have decidedfor some time that the Wallabies have an inferior scrumming pack. Whenever a scrum collapses, the penalty is almost always against them. Good scrums right from the beginning of the match could go a long way to ensuring a Wallabies victory.
The Wallaby players have been talking a lot about restricting the number of turnovers they give the All Blacks. Hopefully, this attitude doesn’t indicate an unwillingness to run the ball at the team in black.
In my view, teams playing the All Blacks try to be careful about making mistakes. They don’t challenge the All Blacks enough with the ball in hand. And because of this, they don’t get the All Blacks out of their comfort zone.
And, again hopefully, the desire not to make mistakes should not be the reason for the Wallabies kicking away the ball to the All Blacks, in the hope they’ll make mistakes. If the big All Blacks mid-field centre pairing get good ball, the smaller Wallabies will be in trouble. So keep the ball in hand Wallabies whenever you get possession.
One final point. The All Blacks are always more comfortable when they are leading. They build on leads. But if they are behind, they often get nervous and start to rush things and make mistakes. So it is imperative for the Wallabies to start well, something they did at Brisbane but not at Eden Park.
If this means have an early field goal or two, then go for it. Points on the board is what matters against the All Blacks.
In the end, belief is the key factor.
The Wallabies have to have a deep belief that they can defeat the All Blacks. And this belief has to be maintained (as it will conversely by the All Blacks) right up to the final whistle.
In the great days of Wallaby dominance over the All Blacks, when Rod Macqueen was the coach, a number of the Bledisloe Cup Tests were won by the Wallabies right on the siren because the team believed in itself; that somehow it would find a way to win. The All Blacks are famous for this self-belief.
Belief in their destiny must be an 80-minute plus engine during the game for the Wallabies. This belief should be based on a shrewd game plan (the way the Reds played against the Chiefs points the way), discipline and a mental and physical strength.
As the life skills coaches are always preaching, you have to dare to win.
Roar expert Brett McKay with his thoughts on exploiting some potential weaknesses:
Robbie Deans spoke in my interview about needing to engage the defence, and how playing too laterally at Eden Park – twice as it turned out – cost the Wallabies in matches last year.
The selection of a Fainga’a-Horne midfield suggests that there won’t be lot of subtlety about the Wallabies’ attack either, though I’m not sure I’d be volunteering to charge at Sonny Bill Williams and/or Ma’a Nonu.
But there is something of an opportunity in the All Blacks midfield, even if it’s ever so slight. Williams, Nonu, and Dan Carter all played Super Rugby for different sides this year, and likewise, Nonu didn’t play in the June Tests at all, while Carter didn’t play the third. he combination between the three could be a bit scratchy.
And there’s maybe a bit of straw-clutching in this, but it’s an opportunity the Wallabies should at least explore.
Nonu could rush up in defence when playing inside centre, because Conrad Smith would hold the defensive alignment behind him. Nonu is playing 13, a somewhat unfamiliar position, and what is regarded as the most difficult defensive channel. He won’t be able to defend the same way he does when wearing 12.
The Wallabies should explore any possible hesitations in defence between Carter and Williams, and likewise, between Williams and Nonu. This will mean clever use of option runners off both Berrick Barnes and Anthony Fainga’a, and it can’t just be Digby Ioane all the time.
Adam Ashley-Cooper needs to present here, and the running games of Scott Higginbotham and Dave Dennis need to be utilised, too.
There’s a small window that’s slightly open here for the Wallabies. But even the smallest opening can let in a ray of light.
Roar expert Paul Cully, currently residing in New Zealand, contributes his thoughts:
How to beat the All Blacks
- Challenge the lineout. The All Blacks have lost some height and spring with the selection of Liam Messam ahead of Victor Vito and Adam Thomson, so it narrows their options a little. Kieran Read is the man they will often look to, so the Wallabies must put up some jumpers to disrupt their ball. They have the men to do it – Sharpe, Higginbotham and Dennis are all big men with aerial ability. If you can’t steal their ball at least make it messy for Bledisloe debutant Aaron Smith.
- Recognise your weaknesses. Good scrum ball for the Wallabies is the ball that Genia feeds between the legs of the second-rowers and gets it away before the inevitable All Blacks pressure comes on. The Wallabies are going to have to be smart rather than confrontational in this area. It has always been the hallmark of their best sides. Embrace it.
- Isolate Nonu. Defending at No.13 is a challenge. Even the best get beaten from time to time. Nonu is a rugged tackler but there are mistakes in him at No.13. It is in his nature to come out of the line looking for heavy contact so make a virtue of that. There is enough pace and footwork in the Wallabies’ back line to test him in an unfamiliar position.
- Pray.
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August 17th 2012 @ 12:25pm
Uncle Argyle said | August 17th 2012 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
Its simple;
1. Turn your percieved weakness into a stregnth. The All Blacks know the Wallabies have skill, but they also know the Wallabies are mentally week and fragile. They really do shirk the confrontation. And this is where it is won and lost. How many times do we need to watch Tony Shaw, Topo Rodriguez, Nick Farr-Jones and co collectivley say to beat New Zealand you nedd %100 commitment in everything you do. Preparation and execution. Garry Whetton and Sean Fitzpatrick priased the Wallabies for skill but always knew they had their measure until the Wallabies of that eraand including (78-80) (86) (89-94)(98 – 2003) said enough was enough. Just bash them and been ruthless in accordance with the laws of the game. Only then do we actually have a chance.
2. Refer to point 1.
August 17th 2012 @ 12:58pm
Jutsie said | August 17th 2012 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
Thats my only issue with genia, is that he doesnt like when it gets physical and confrontational. Gregan/Farr-jones and even burgess (despite his other weaknesses) relished the opportunity to get into the rough stuff, genia on the other hand is easily man-handled by opposition forwards and shows it.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:07pm
Andrew C (waikato) said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:07pm | Report comment
Uncle, I recall a rugged no-holds barred TONY SHAW, mate. A true Aussie hard man. We NZers had one too who took no prisoners >> Mark “Cowboy” Shaw. Unfortunately you Aussies have turned soft and have selected a bunch of girls to do men’s work (huge GRIN, mate !!). Uncle, wear your high heel shoes and pink knickers……… then you’ll all feel right at home tomorrow. When exactly do you think the Wallabies will start waving the white knickers ??? the 60 minute mark ?? I’ll be having a couple of Lion Brown on ya.
August 17th 2012 @ 2:12pm
Uncle Argyle said | August 17th 2012 @ 2:12pm | Report comment
Hah,
Mate Mark ‘Cowboy’ Shaw, the meatworker from the Manawatu no less. Yes a hard hard man indeed. However does the name David Carter mean anything to you? Probably not. Carter, a product of the Scots College in Sydney played a handful of tests for the Wallabies in the late 80′s against the French. Carter was one of the last genuine test players selected from NSW Country.
Carter I beleive is from Qurindi which is up on the Liverpool Plain in Northern NSW. They are a tough breed up there to. Carter was selected as a blind side flanker in 1983 when NSW Country took on the mighty All Blacks that included Cowboy. Anyhow its about 43-3 and Cowboys gets in the face of David Carter who through the best one-two combination I’ve ever seen on a rugby park.
Result – Carter shuffled Cowboys deck. Delt him a royal flush. Buzzed his tower so too speak. Funny thing was Carter then turned towards the rest of the All Blacks with his dukes up and not one took him on as they were just as amazed that ‘Cowboy’ had been decked by some Aussie Country Kid. There is a lesson in that for the Wallabies.
I reckon I’ll be in the stilleto’s after 20 minutes
This will come back on you 10 fold some time!
August 17th 2012 @ 6:16pm
Andrew C (waikato) said | August 17th 2012 @ 6:16pm | Report comment
Great story that one, Uncle. Having played more than a few games in the forwards myself, I can understand (and appreciate) the amazement of a ‘hardman’ like Cowboy Shaw getting decked/king-hit/’sorted’ by David Carter from Qurindi (bet Mark felt THAT one as if it was delivered by Lionel Rose himself, huh? —- ha ha ha – boomer, mate !!). But, Cowboy still IS a legend………… good yarn, though. btw, do you ‘do drag’ as well as stilettos, because I just might be tempted to fly over for next year’s Bledisloe (Melbourne or Seedknee) just to have a bloody good laugh !! You sound like you treat sheep gently & could be a bloody good bloke (for an Ocker, mate ). Cheers………… oh yeah, I’m sure this Wannabe abuse will come home to roost avec moi in the future. ………. Ship happens
August 17th 2012 @ 7:55pm
Uncle Argyle said | August 17th 2012 @ 7:55pm | Report comment
Being a Waikato man was your club Fraser Tech?
Mate is was no king hit, a 1-2 square on. Cowboy is of course Cowboy but I am sure he’ll remember one D.Carter.
No I dont mind wearing the wifes Netabll outfit but she is useually in my footy gear…long story
Mate don’t waste your money on Sudknee or Mulbun….BRUSBUN is the bist!
August 17th 2012 @ 9:03pm
sheek said | August 17th 2012 @ 9:03pm | Report comment
Hi Uncle,
You are both right ….. & wrong.
There was indeed a David Carter backrower from Scots/Quirindi who played 5 tests for the Wallabies in the late 1980s.
However, I believe the guy you are thinking of in the early to mid 1980s was David Codey.
Codey played 14 tests for Australia 1983-87, but would have played more but for injury, unavailability & being suspended after flying to South Africa in 1987 attempting to organise a rebel series against the Boks (who were then ostracized politically for apartheid) after the world cup.
Codey had an interesting career. He moved around a bit, doing his secondary schooling at Balgowlah High & Sydney Grammar. He played Colts & Grade for Norths before moving to the country where he won Wallaby selection while playing in Orange.
In 1984 he had the unusual distinction of playing for both NSW & Qld, moving north of the Tweed mid-season. I had the pleasure of playing against him in Colts in the mid-70s. He was a hard man on the paddock & on the very few occasions I met him at the club bar afterwards, a friendly, unassuming guy off it.
August 17th 2012 @ 10:26pm
Jerry said | August 17th 2012 @ 10:26pm | Report comment
Wasn’t David Cody the player sent off in the 3/4 playoff in 87?
August 18th 2012 @ 12:51pm
Uncle Argyle said | August 18th 2012 @ 12:51pm | Report comment
Yep. Scored a good try against the French in the semi but it the end it wasn’t enough.
August 18th 2012 @ 12:49pm
Uncle Argyle said | August 18th 2012 @ 12:49pm | Report comment
Both right & wrong Sheek,
….the story of mi life
Either way it was David “Someone” from NSW Country that decked Cowboy with a 1-2 Cassius Clay would have been proud of.
…David Codey played his best rugby north of the Tweed…:)
August 18th 2012 @ 9:19am
Gravity Basher said | August 18th 2012 @ 9:19am | Report comment
I agree with you Uncle Argyle, in recent history the wallabies have won when they’ve unsettled the ABS early and as the game marches on without a change in the lead, that’s when their mental snap is compounded and the ABs start making more and more mistakes and the backline less cutting. Same with the Crusaders. Watch Adam-Ashley Cooper. I think he could score the opening try to start an unlikely goldrush. Wallabies to win by 12. And I’m a Kiwi. Let’s see if I’m shown to be totally wrong….
August 17th 2012 @ 12:42pm
WoobliesFan said | August 17th 2012 @ 12:42pm | Report comment
So much analysis, when the answer is so very clear – get a new coach. You guys are so worried about not rocking the Apple cart.
A more capable coach would have picked QC and managed to utilise his strengths.
A more capable coach wouldnt pick so many players from a terrible waratahs outfit.
A more patriotic and passionate coach wouldn’t make a joke of losing to Scotland.
About time you Roar “experts” started writing how it is.
August 17th 2012 @ 12:56pm
Dave said | August 17th 2012 @ 12:56pm | Report comment
Thats a good analysis.
I was also really glad that the Rugby Club boys are feeling as frustrated as most of us are.
Marto could barely sit next to Deans biting his tongue – the ‘why are 8 tahs players in the side’ was a beauty.
Kafer showing how inept Rob Horne is in attack was beautiful to watch also. His comment along the lines of ‘Im sure you are aware of this’ was brilliant because judging by his tactics and selection – I doubt Deans has a clue.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:21pm
Justin2 said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:21pm | Report comment
And it was obvious what Himmy Toran thought about no QC either. I would say he is disgusted. When those guys actually mention things like that, you know they are dumbfounded.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:33pm
kingplaymaker said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:33pm | Report comment
Justin funnily enough many strong critics of Deans actually prefer the selection of Barnes to Cooper (not that I agree).
August 17th 2012 @ 1:35pm
Justin2 said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
Such as?
August 17th 2012 @ 2:44pm
Jutsie said | August 17th 2012 @ 2:44pm | Report comment
I gotta back KPM up here, there were many deans critics last year who criticised him before and after the RWC for selecting cooper over barnes or for even selecting cooper at all( a large majority of them are either NSW or WF supporters) they are the same supporters who criticise him saying he gives special treatment to the 3 amigos.
Cooper like deans is a polarising figure even amongst wallaby supporters.
It was actually funny in the lead upto the wales series there was an article speculating what his selections would be in the SMH and in the comments section had one comment saying “Its plain to see cooper is our best 5/8 but drop-kick deans will choose barnes” and right underneath it was a comment saying “Cooper was terrible in the WC but drongo-deans will continue to pick him”.
Lol poor deans his name lends itself too so many nicknames.
August 17th 2012 @ 3:22pm
Justin2 said | August 17th 2012 @ 3:22pm | Report comment
Fair points Juts. I wasnt having a go at KPM, which it sort of looks like I am.
You are right he is and always will be a polarising figure, like Campo and Carlos I guess.
August 17th 2012 @ 4:05pm
Jutsie said | August 17th 2012 @ 4:05pm | Report comment
Yeah true, I can understand coaches being polarising figures especially when they are not delivering results but I just dont get the mentality of hating on guys like cooper, campo (on the field) and king carlos. Id put up with their mistakes and stuff ups every day of the week to be entertained by their magic.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:17pm
eagleJack said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:17pm | Report comment
But a new coach would be faced with the same reality. No depth. And then you would be back on here calling for a new coach.
I don’t agree with all of Deans’ selections. But I am in touch with reality. People calling for more Brumbies to be included then go quiet when asked which one’s. Similarly with the Reds.
We have named a good team. A well balanced, strong team. But we have to play well above our ability to match it with the ABs. Meaning we can jag a win here and there. But to think we will ever get to a point of dominating them is unrealistic. Not with the current crop of players at our disposal and subsequent injuries many sustain.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:22pm
Justin2 said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
Its an average team and they will have to play well above themselves and have the ABs be off to win. Its possible, no question but I wouldn’t be putting money on it unless Deans shocks us with some brilliant tactics we havent seen before…
August 17th 2012 @ 1:31pm
Jutsie said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:31pm | Report comment
I was reading an article on stuff .co . nz about some kiwi bloke who used to coach canberra vikings during the golden era of ACT/Aus rugby and he mentioned that nick scrivener who is now skills/backs coach for the wallabies was a key part of the vikings set up, a team that included many of the wallaby/act heroes and also included a young radike samo. It was the vikings that switched him from no. 8 to wing in the first place.
I don’t know much about scrivener but if he had a hand in the skills and moves going in ACT during that period hopefully he will have an influence over the wallabies, although we also have Mcgahan who is well versed in northern Hemisphere style rugby.
I wonder whether they will compliment eachother, with scrivener bringing attacking flair to the table and mcgahan bringing defence and tactical kicking to the table, or whether the contrasts in styles/philsophies may lead to more back line disfunctionality?
August 17th 2012 @ 1:37pm
Justin2 said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:37pm | Report comment
Scrivener has been around a long time. Not sure why he has never put himself up for S15 or he is just over looked. Have heard good things about him so it will be interesting to see what he and TM come up with with so much prep time.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:44pm
Red Kev said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
As much as I criticise Deans I definitely do agree that a large part of his problems/ineffectiveness was a result of his assistant coaches.
I don’t know much about Andrew Blades the coach (I still think of him as a player), but what I have learned of McGahan and Scrivener makes me suspect that they work much better with Deans than Williams, Nucifora and the rest of the circus he had with him in 2010 and 2011 did. I also suspect that their skill sets complement Deans’ skills quite well (if I was feeling vindictive I would say they cover Deans’ weaknesses).
August 17th 2012 @ 2:19pm
Dan said | August 17th 2012 @ 2:19pm | Report comment
Scotland was on JON head mate !.
We did just beat the 6 nations 3 zip although we should of probably done it more convincing fashion but 3 zip none the less.
If anyone wants to harp on about the previous 12 losses to NZ 10 of them were by less than 5 poinnts (two were by 1 point) and in 9 of the games the Wallabies were up at half time so really it is a lot closer than people like you UA would give them credit.
Believe me I understand your pain when we go down in these circumstances but dont quite understand your psych’e but you sometimes act like they let us down on purpose.
I beleive UA that your a bit like my father in law he believes that if he bets on the team he doesn’t want to win it will bring the team ‘he wants to win some luck.
But really its BS and our beloved wallabies need all the support and some one with your knowledge/experience need to muster all magical spirtual Rugby Karma energy you have and send it to the boys tomorrow night.
IMO whoever wins tomorrow night will be the winners of the IRC…..
Wooblies fan get your head outta ur backside look at Deans percentages before you bag him 2/3 days prep for an international are you kidding me?? not Deans fault mate JON doing Scotland a favour on there tour of the pacific islands. an um 5 place in IRB rankings to 2nd?? not happy will 3rd in WC me either we had the team to doit but seriously did not rock up in the semi fairly hard task after beating the SB the week before(massive defensive effort)….
August 17th 2012 @ 4:01pm
smfc1874 said | August 17th 2012 @ 4:01pm | Report comment
That 12 losses, 10 under 5 result is wrong. In the last 12, 5 games were decided by under 5 points, the rest way over also it was only 3 of them that the wallabies were in front at half time. I suggest you check your facts, so its really not as close as you are saying it is, there has been problems in the last few years for the Wallabies due to lack of depth. Not saying the Wallabies won’t win tomorrow but it will be very difficult, go the All Blacks!
August 17th 2012 @ 10:58pm
Blue said | August 17th 2012 @ 10:58pm | Report comment
Umm excuse me..”should of probably done it in more convincing fashion”. Wales outplayed the Wallabies in the last 2 tests. The Wallabies were lucky the ref was their 16th man. But anyway that’s beside the point, i just wanted to correct you.
How Australia can beat the Ab’s?
- Kick well
- keep discipline
- Make their tackles
I am expecting the Wallabies to win by 12. I think it’ll be another backs to the wall approach like in June at Suncorp. They’ll come out all guns blazing and blitz the All Blicks off the park.
Have faith Aussie fans!
August 17th 2012 @ 12:49pm
Johnno said | August 17th 2012 @ 12:49pm | Report comment
-We are a chance to win saturday night, but no chance next week at Eden Park NZ.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:20pm
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:20pm | Report comment
Why no chance at Eden Park Johnno?
Eventually we will learn to consistently win away. Maybe that time has arrived.
August 17th 2012 @ 2:33pm
Dan said | August 17th 2012 @ 2:33pm | Report comment
it is a little overdue last time we won there i was 11!!!!
August 17th 2012 @ 1:01pm
Who Needs Melon said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:01pm | Report comment
I agree with UA above and think this echoes what Stu Wilson said on the rugby club last night. He rubbished talk of strategy in favour of the opinion that the more committed team will win the war. And Stu Wilson wasn’t drunk – he’s always like that.
Looking at the Wallaby and All Black teams at the moment it’s hard for me to figure out what our relative strengths or the ABs relative weaknesses are. My hope is that we mix it up a little – varying what we do when both we and the ABs have the ball. But my fear is that only a team who have played together a hell of a lot can react as a unit like this on the field. And so we will try to stick to a simple, structured game plan.
Another of my fears is that we will consciously continually slow the game down. Genia and Barnes won’t have the combination that he and QC do. So the ball will sit at the back of a ruck until Barnes or the next pod of forwards are good and ready. This will play into AB hands.
So I think as usual Genia is the key. If he can insist on upping the tempo. If we can mix it up with forward hit ups close, pick and goes and rolling mauls, Barnes and co. out wide, Genia sniping, Beale and Digby coming in on some angles, mix the kicking up a bit (NO BOX KICKS PLEASE!) then we might be able to score a few points.
Our defense will need to be absolutely amazing too.
We CAN win this game and it will be one for the books if we do. COME ON THE WALLABIES!
August 17th 2012 @ 1:08pm
Andrew C (waikato) said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:08pm | Report comment
Paul Cully’s number 4 option is your Wannabes only hope……………… PRAY, PRAY !!!
August 17th 2012 @ 1:30pm
stillmatic1 said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
a couple of things from spiro’s analysis seem off to me. the first is that the wallabies did indeed come out of the blocks well in brisbane, but 10 minutes into the second half the Abs were on level pegging again, so really it was game on, hardly “blowing them out of the match”.
this point also refutes his second assertion that the Abs struggle to get back leads and make errors in their haste to do so. this current AB team (or the one with mccaw/carter in it) has made a habit of starting slowly and then overhauling sometimes ridiculous leads, especially (much to the chagrin of wallabby fans!!) the current wallaby team.
after a match a couple of years back, mccaw was asked why the Abs had been getting such slow starts, to which mccaw replied “well, it is a test match, and it takes time to get into the thrust of the game” or words to that effect. what would you rather have? a great start that fizzles out just as quickly (wallabies) or a measured start that allows your team to build into a game? the proof is in the results the Abs have had in the last few years, although it doesnt make us fans feel that good whilst watching and wondering what the hell is going on!!
spiro is bang on about belief though, and i would be surprised if the wallabies didnt have it anyway. will it matter when the team is under the pump? should be. but will it be enough to stop the opposition who is turning the screws?
expect a typical tight match (would like a comprehensive AB victory though) that should see the, on-paper, stronger side prevail, but who is to say that a player from the stronger team doesnt make a blunder that lets the other in? as long as both camps arent reading the hype and doom prevailing on this site, then the game will be true to bledisloe form. tight test where 1 or 2 plays decide the match. but for the sake of me and my kiwi brethren sanity, i hope carter and co rip you guys to shreds.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:33pm
Jutsie said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:33pm | Report comment
good point, there was a long run of games between 08 and 10 where the wallabies squandered half time leads to the AB’s.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:32pm
Davout said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
Home advantage at the ANZ stadium?Unfortunately No. It has been my dismal observation over the past years that Bledisloe matches at ANZ stadium, have more All Blacks supporters than Wallaby supporters. They are certainly more vocal.
August 17th 2012 @ 6:25pm
Andrew C (waikato) said | August 17th 2012 @ 6:25pm | Report comment
Yeah Davout, we tend to get very LOUD & VOCAL when supporting our Men-In-Black . The only way to shut us up is to >> SCORE MORE POINTS THAN US >> simple really. Cheers….
August 17th 2012 @ 1:32pm
West said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
That test in Brisbane was the best I’ve seen wallabys play for years then they nearly lost it in the second half they must keep that up the whole 80 minutes. All blacks will not forget that test and they won’t let it happen again they can match aggression with aggression, all black will know that the contest has to be one immediately
can’t afford to give the Ozzies a chance to get fired up. Must crush and punish the forwards and turn the ball and unleash the back line to tear up the field and doing it with speed, speed so the wallabys can’t structure a line of defence to plug up the holes. This will be brutal the all blacks are all large men in the forwards and just as big in the backs. The wallabys are in for a hell of a fight.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:55pm
stillmatic1 said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:55pm | Report comment
it was an incredible start, west, and i dont think the people sitting next to me at the game had ever heard so many four letter words in their lives!! but once we picked the wallabies apart in the space of 17 minutes leading into and after half time, i knew then, that (even though the Abs lost) the result was potentially more damaging to the wallabies mindset, compared to if they had actually lost!! strange i know, but it showed that no matter how well the wallabies can play, they cant seem to shake the Abs, and surely that must be in the back of the players mind.
if we are creatures of habit, and there is the slightest hint of doubt when things get tough, then i suppose the way the game unfolds could be a self fulfilling prophecy to the players in question (work our butts off, get a good lead, go to sleep for 20 minutes, let the opposition back in, now scramble to try and scrap out a win).
to confirm my own thinking (sic), the scenario quite often happens to my basketball team in our friday comp. we (or the opp.) get a solid lead, then the other wakes up, draws close enough or levels, and then its a frantic mess to win the game down the stretch. now i know us old boys are just a bunch of chumps, but i can appreciate how it can happen to the full blown professional too. sport is unforgiving, and even your best intentions just sometimes arent enough to win the game, especially if you have seen the same thing happen over and over again.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:36pm
joe b said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:36pm | Report comment
what might help is letting the players know they are representing the country, as in the Australian Wallabies, as opposed to representing an airline that holds the country to ransom, qantas wallabies. JON should be ashamed for some of the atrocities he has committed against the national rugby team (namely the wallaby vomit inducing jersey of 98/99, and selling naming rights for the team, and some might argue the introduction of a foreign coach which ultimately hasn’t achieved any greater success than a home grown coach). Perhaps the wallabies organization has a touch of the waratahs about them.
August 17th 2012 @ 1:49pm
Red Kev said | August 17th 2012 @ 1:49pm | Report comment
The last time the Wallabies performed well they were sponsored by Bundaberg Rum – time to ditch QANTAS and go back to the big white polar bear in my opinion – the sponsor is clearly the major problem with the Wallabies.
August 17th 2012 @ 2:33pm
Markus said | August 17th 2012 @ 2:33pm | Report comment
A bit more Bundy may provide the mongrel many commenters have pointed out is sorely lacking.
August 17th 2012 @ 2:38pm
West said | August 17th 2012 @ 2:38pm | Report comment
True about brains, but they form a defensive wall and they enjoy inflicting pain on there oppersition its key men like carter and smith, and weepu who utilise there attacking ability by creating the holes for them to storm threw. For wallabies to get threw they need Genia to create the holes, all blacks will be pouring on the pressure to rattle him and stop him from getting into any rythem. Smith vs Genia will be interesting. Oh, red Kevin yea mate it’s quantas fault if they lose…..no doubt
August 17th 2012 @ 2:45pm
Jutsie said | August 17th 2012 @ 2:45pm | Report comment
As long as they dont bring back the infamous duck o’larange ad.
August 17th 2012 @ 2:56pm
Red Kev said | August 17th 2012 @ 2:56pm | Report comment
I loved that ad! The Wallabies could certainly do with some duck a l’orange in my opinion – and by that I mean they could do with Owen Finnegan in the team.
August 17th 2012 @ 3:17pm
Jutsie said | August 17th 2012 @ 3:17pm | Report comment
If hooper was bigger I’d call him melon jnr (apolgies to david lyon) same sort of bullocking running game. Dennis and higgy just dont have that in their arsenal yet.
August 17th 2012 @ 6:27pm
Billy Bob said | August 17th 2012 @ 6:27pm | Report comment
The Wallabies broke the drought a few years ago when the sponsors first aired the Bundy Smooth ‘Billy Bob’s Bourbon Bar’ ad.
August 17th 2012 @ 2:57pm
jeremy said | August 17th 2012 @ 2:57pm | Report comment
They won’t, I know your comment is tongue-in-cheek but if you note, Qantas has naming rights to the Wallabies.
Seriously. They are called the Qantas Wallabies, not the Wallabies (sponsored by Qantas) which is in my book unforgiveable. It’s not the Adidas Socceroos or the Nike Carlton Football Club, but the national team of Australia is the Qantas Wallabies and they still call ‘Straya home. Even the Aussie cricket team baulked at too close an association with KFC but let’s get the world cup squad walking off a plane.
Hats off to Qantas, they really know how to negotiate a brand contract….
If bundy wants sponsorship back, they’re going to want to be massively prominent, unfortunately the ASA (advertising standards authority) restrict naming rights when alcohol is involved and there is a crossover with young audiences.
my 2c
August 17th 2012 @ 2:16pm
Dave said | August 17th 2012 @ 2:16pm | Report comment
The NZ centres have plenty of brawn but little brains. Conrad is missing and he is the key to their defence.
So I’d have our strike runners – AAC and Digby – running angles through that channel all night long on the back of Cooper bullet passes (ala Hong Kong). The Larkham/Mortlock combo always gave the NZ midfield nightmares with those plays after all.
Instead however, our coaching staff believes that a better tactic is to pick centres who are 20kgs lighter, and have those players run straight into the hulks.
You are a genius Robbie. A much sounder strategy. Give that man a raise and contract extension.
August 17th 2012 @ 4:49pm
rl said | August 17th 2012 @ 4:49pm | Report comment
that’s all well and good Dave, but name me one Aussie centre 20 kgs heavier than AF or Horne who warrants selection in our national rugby team.
Timmy Horan was 95kgs wringing wet – he’d still be a standout in international rugby today.
August 17th 2012 @ 6:29pm
Dave said | August 17th 2012 @ 6:29pm | Report comment
You missed my point rl. You dont go toe to toe with them. They are bigger BUT slower. Take advantage of that.
Deans wants Horne (and McCabe when fit) to run bolt upright AT THEM. Not through them or around them, but AT THEM. The very definition of stupidity.
We should be doing what Australian teams always do – confuse the heck out of the bigger guys by using clever passing and tactics. Cooper should be throwing rockets at their channel. What Deans is missing is that without Conrad to tell SBW and Nonu what to do – the NZ centre pairing is now actually a WEAKNESS which we should be exploiting. They have rarely played together. They will leave holes.
Instead we have made the centres OUR weakness by selecting defensive players and leaving Cooper out entirely.