Obstruction rule clarified: now officially clear as mud
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We have just received an announcement from the NRL referees boss (Bill Harrigan) that after a two and half hour meeting, the NRL was now confident the referees understand the obstruction rule.
Without questioning why we are in a position two weeks out from the finals where the referees need to be coached on how to police the game, the announcement today is nothing short of laughable.
As I argued in an article last week, the problem with the NRL rules is that they fail basic principles of clarity and enforcement.
To quote Bill Harrigan, this lack of clarity is apparently a necessary evil, ”It is very difficult to make this black and white because it is subjective and every play that you see is different,” Harrigan said.
”All we have to do is go through our check boxes…”.
So let’s check our boxes. The NRL has come out with the below laundry list of factors to be considered when enforcing the obstruction rule:
1. The decoy runner must not interfere with the defending team;
2. The ball runner cannot run behind his own team and gain an advantage;
3. A sweep player may receive the ball on the inside of a block runner as long as there is depth on the pass to him. If there is no depth, he needs to receive the ball on the outside of the block runner;
4. Defensive decisions that commit defenders to decoy runners will not be considered obstruction;
5. Attacking players who loiter next to the play-the-ball can be interpreted as obstructing the defending team;
6. If, in the process of scoring a try, an attacking player dives through or into the legs of the player who has played the ball, a penalty will be awarded to the defending team for obstruction; and
7. If in the opinion of the referee/video referee the play had no effect on the scoring of the try, it will be awarded.
Now I understand the idea of providing realistic examples of things to look at, but by providing seven factors to consider, the NRL has only further complicated what should be a simple consideration.
My simple rule for obstruction is as follows:
“A defensive player cannot be obstructed from making a tackle, or obstructed from maintaining their role in the defensive line, due to the presence of an offensive player”.
This simple rule can easily be applied in all of the above situations and if anything, it is clearer than vagueness of some of the above rules. For example, I can see paragraph 1 above leading to many arguments about whether a player was “interfered with”.
We see it all the time…a decoy runner bumps into a defender that is twenty metres away from the ball, but because the defender falls down, there are massive doubts over whether this contact caused the defensive line to falter.
According to my proposed rule, if a decoy runner stops a player from maintaining their role in the defensive line, then this is obstruction.
I think this rule is what is needed, because the onus on decoy runners should be to confuse defenders, not physically interfere with them.
Similarly, if a defender simply makes a bad read and the defender was not obstructed from maintaining their role in the defensive line, the decoy play was legitimate and the try is fair and square.
One only has to look at point three to see how unclear the interpretation for the rule is.
What is ‘depth’? Is it three metres from the defensive line, or five metres?
You can already see this issue of ‘depth’ being the next area where confusion reigns.
With my proposed and simple obstruction rule, the depth of the decoys and ball carrier would only be important is assessing fundamentally whether a defensive player was obstructed from making a tackle, or obstructed from maintaining their role in the defensive line, due to the presence of an offensive player”.
Finally, point six above has no place being part of the obstruction rule.
It should be its own rule, i.e. “An attacking player is not allowed to dive through or into the legs of the player who has played the ball”.
By merging this rule with the obstruction rule, the NRL have only further complicated an already troublesome area of the game.
Today’s announcement on the obstruction rule achieves nothing, other to clarify the dysfunctional nature of the NRL Rule Book.
In trying to explain every conceivable situation, the NRL rule makers are trying to provide the referees with a right answer.
Rather, the enforcement of rules will not always be right and there will always be occasions where both sides have an equally valid case.
I remember once saying to my mates that I thought I couldn’t tell what the right call was in a State of Origin a few years ago. I was told I was a fence sitter and of course there had to be a right answer.
There will be instances where the enforcement of a rule is a dead set 50/50 proposition. This cannot be avoided. But the issue is consistency and clarity of the rules.
At the moment, there is no clarity and no consistency. This is a recipe for disaster and with two rounds until the finals.
Most fans know the fortunes of their team will be party decided by the referee’s enforcement of a broken NRL Rule Book.
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August 23rd 2012 @ 7:11am
Steve Jones said | August 23rd 2012 @ 7:11am | Report comment
Great we now have a billion dollars to spend. Let’s start with bringing the ref’s up to standard with Bob Fultons suggestion of having one ref and one pocket ref for the whole game which will prevent the elite athletes in the game having to readjust to a different personality every ten minutes. Teach them the rules! Get a decent independant leader and mentor such as a David Waite type and get rid of ego maniac Harrigan who loves to see his name in the press for any reason! (what does Stuart Raper do?). Sort out the judiciary! The “Count” is put on his backside by Dugan so he spits it and comes back at him with and elbow to the head aka the 1960′s and it is deemed accidental, what a joke, do you clowns on the judiciary think the fans are morons! If Dugan had done the same to Mini you would have demanded the death penalty. The players have reached an elite level lets try to get the rest of the show up to their standard.
August 23rd 2012 @ 7:11pm
Meesta Cool said | August 23rd 2012 @ 7:11pm | Report comment
Brian Smith has spent the last ten years complaining about refs weekly. — He obviously has more insight as to how the rules must be interpreted. Give him the job as ref boss and let’s see if his logic and whinges were legitimate!.
I am sure there are a few more ex coaches that could easily become Video refs. so we get another realistic judgement on the plays that are sent for adjudication. a fef and an ex coach in the box. wow. thinking outside the square..
Yup, Meesta Cool has the perfect answers once again… — Pity no one listens….
August 23rd 2012 @ 8:52am
mushi said | August 23rd 2012 @ 8:52am | Report comment
Yours seems like the basic rule which is so reliant on interpretation that if gave birth to the checklist.
August 23rd 2012 @ 10:05am
Tru Blu said | August 23rd 2012 @ 10:05am | Report comment
I agree. One of the key arguments agst the simplistic rule was whether the defender would’ve stopped a try. This came about because tries were being disallowed due to obstruction when there was no way a defender would’ve gotten near the player with the ball. Unfortunately rules still rely on a coomon sense approach when it would seem that refs have little.
August 23rd 2012 @ 1:04pm
PuntPal said | August 23rd 2012 @ 1:04pm | Report comment
But why are we talking about whether he would have stopped the try…this is what I mean, no clarity.
The obstruction rule is not all about try scoring plays, it applies to every play in the game. Therefore, we shouldnt be asking whether the defender would have stopped the try…this is bending the rules and twisting the issue.
The question should be whether the defender was obstructed from making a tackle or keeping their place in the defecive line.
Talk of whether the try would have been scored anyway is vague nonsense there to satisfy people like Phil Gould who love to claim to have a mortgage on common sense.
Rules must be black and white, when they try to haev grey areas to prevent ‘unjust’ outcomes, then you lose all law and order and you have the inconsistent rubbish we see on a weekly basis
August 23rd 2012 @ 1:58pm
Ken said | August 23rd 2012 @ 1:58pm | Report comment
‘This came about because tries were being disallowed due to obstruction when there was no way a defender would’ve gotten near the player with the ball.’
My response would be ‘so what’? The attacking team has stuffed up and caused an obstruction – whether they would have scored regardless is moot in my opinion. We don’t treat other rules like that, for instance, if the last pass to an unmarked winger is forward before he crosses untouched should we argue that the forward pass was irrelevant? I don’t think so, the attacking team executed their play poorly and it’s no try. If the attacking team run an obstruction, they have also executed play poorly and I think should be penalised.
August 23rd 2012 @ 2:39pm
Derryn said | August 23rd 2012 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
I think this is the smartest comment I have read so far in regards to the obstruction debate.
August 23rd 2012 @ 4:17pm
PuntPal said | August 23rd 2012 @ 4:17pm | Report comment
Agreed Derryn, Ken has nailed it!
August 23rd 2012 @ 4:35pm
soapit said | August 23rd 2012 @ 4:35pm | Report comment
wasnt it bulldogs vs saints where that all started?
August 23rd 2012 @ 5:46pm
mushi said | August 23rd 2012 @ 5:46pm | Report comment
But it isn’t obstruction if you didn’t impede the defence from making the play.
August 23rd 2012 @ 8:56pm
Lovey said | August 23rd 2012 @ 8:56pm | Report comment
Agreed, and I see a problem with the interpretation of “obstructed from maintaining role in the defensive line”. The whole idea of decoy runners is to muss with that role. The simple rule proposed would still rely on subjective call. There still has to be substantive interference.
August 23rd 2012 @ 9:24am
Dan said | August 23rd 2012 @ 9:24am | Report comment
It’s just a debacle to be honest, it doesn’t matter about checklists or any rule changes the refs just stuff it up anyway! Any other profession they would be sacked for such monumental blunders.
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August 23rd 2012 @ 9:44am
planko said | August 23rd 2012 @ 9:44am | Report comment
You cannot benefit from running behind you own players … PERIOD ! Problem gone. If you do penalty … SIMPLE
August 23rd 2012 @ 11:28am
mushi said | August 23rd 2012 @ 11:28am | Report comment
And again interpretation – benefit.
August 23rd 2012 @ 6:04pm
JVGO said | August 23rd 2012 @ 6:04pm | Report comment
Benefit equals gain advantage. ie score, gain yardage, make a kick, make a pass, anything really. If you run behind your own player you surrender or give away a penalty, that has always been the rule, actually the surrender was never part of the rule but has been allowed recently, although it possibly shouldn’t be.
The bottom line is that the Hodges try shouldn’t have been awarded. It has opened a can of worms and can never be admitted as a mistake because it decided an Origin series. So Bill should be sacked and someone more responsible like Waite or Annesley should be appointed.
August 23rd 2012 @ 11:09am
Gareth said | August 23rd 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
Wow, this is just awful.
2. The ball runner cannot run behind his own team and gain an advantage;
In a game where “advantage” is measured by metres gained, does this mean a player cannot run forward having run behind his own team? How to we determine what is behind? Is it always oriented toward your own try line? Does that mean obstruction can’t occur if the obstructing player is standing to the side of the ball runner, even if he’s preventing a defender from reaching the ball runner? Why “behind his own team” and not behind one of his team mates? Is it ever possible to be behind your team? Wouldn’t a halfback picking up the ball at behind a scrum be behind his own team? Wouldn’t a fullback returning the ball be behind his team?
Hilariously, the rule book glossary defines “behind” as:
“when applied to a player means, unless otherwise stated, that both feet are behind the position in question. Similarly “in front” implies “with both feet”. When applied to a position on the field of play, “behind” means nearer to one’s own goal line than the point in question. Similarly “in front of” means nearer to one’s opponents’ goal line.”
Madness. By these rules, “behind” does not account for lateral position. If you’re closer to your own goal line, then you’re “behind”. Also, shouldn’t “in front” cover any situation where the player isn’t behind? What’s the point in defining an in between zone where one foot is in front and one is behind? Doesn’t that just muddy the rules – ie does a kick chaser need to be behind the kicker, or “not in front of” the kicker?
3. A sweep player may receive the ball on the inside of a block runner as long as there is depth on the pass to him. If there is no depth, he needs to receive the ball on the outside of the block runner;
What’s a sweep player? A block runner? What’s depth?
4. Defensive decisions that commit defenders to decoy runners will not be considered obstruction;
This one I actually don’t have many problems with, but it does rely on the reading of intent, and the definition of “commit”.
5. Attacking players who loiter next to the play-the-ball can be interpreted as obstructing the defending team;
And? Shouldn’t this already be covered?
6. If, in the process of scoring a try, an attacking player dives through or into the legs of the player who has played the ball, a penalty will be awarded to the defending team for obstruction; and
Like PuntPal has already said, why is this not its own rule?
7. If in the opinion of the referee/video referee the play had no effect on the scoring of the try, it will be awarded.
Is this just a way of saying “if it walks like a duck”? Why should it come down to opinion? Doesn’t that exhonerate any officiating error? In the opinion of the video referee in the Tigers/Bulldogs game, it was a try. Why is he sitting out this week? Why would the referee ever make a decision contrary to his own opinion?
Crazy, crazy stuff. Maybe the NRL can put some money toward rewriting the entire rulebook to be a sensible legal document.
August 23rd 2012 @ 1:07pm
PuntPal said | August 23rd 2012 @ 1:07pm | Report comment
Crazy, crazy stuff. Maybe the NRL can put some money toward rewriting the entire rulebook to be a sensible legal document.
SPOT ON!!! In any other indutry, some form of comprehensive reform would take place. We need to get sports lawyers and other specialists in, not coaches and players arguing what they think is fair. Designing legal systems is a complex task and so far it has proven to beyond their ability to iron out some reoccuring issues.
August 23rd 2012 @ 1:09pm
Hoy said | August 23rd 2012 @ 1:09pm | Report comment
When you have these types of laws, you lose common sense. So when you watch these tries, it should be common sense.
This is going to be controversial, but what the hell:
In Origin: Hodges was so far behind Hannant, Hannant surely did not impede a player, and it was half Carney’s fault for rushing the outside, but neither he nor the bloke who was sucked into Hannant was going to stop Hodges. Now I agree, Carney thought that Hodges wouldn’t be able to run behind, but again, he was about 5 metres behind Hannant. Have some common sense to determine if a player was impeded. That is all it takes I think.
Secondly, if the defensive players knew they had to make an effort to stop players, instead of just throwing their arms up in the air and complaining, and pretending to get bowled over by the breath of a close player, they might actually surprise themselves and stop a few tries…
August 23rd 2012 @ 4:20pm
PuntPal said | August 23rd 2012 @ 4:20pm | Report comment
Also agree with this Hoy…the players milking things is where the rules first started to be really twisted. They know what to do to get a penalty and so they do it.
I actually think we should have an offence to try and milk a penalty. Yes it would be something only enforced very rarely, but just like diving in soccer, once players start doing it, it makes it a lot harder to accurately enforce the rules.
August 23rd 2012 @ 4:26pm
soapit said | August 23rd 2012 @ 4:26pm | Report comment
hoy running a decoy always impedes the defence to some degree. just not necessarily physically.
August 23rd 2012 @ 7:44pm
Ian Whitchurch said | August 23rd 2012 @ 7:44pm | Report comment
Call me old fashioned, but the response to a dummy runner should be a penalty for attempted obstruction.
Repeated dummy runners should result in sendoffs for professional fouls.
And thats a runner charging at the line without receiving the ball, not running it from dummy half
August 24th 2012 @ 6:57am
soapit said | August 24th 2012 @ 6:57am | Report comment
well ur allowed to impede the defence in a lot of situations, just not where the ball has been carried behind (though i dont think bh agrees)
August 23rd 2012 @ 4:33pm
soapit said | August 23rd 2012 @ 4:33pm | Report comment
“A defensive player cannot be obstructed from making a tackle, or obstructed from maintaining their role in the defensive line, due to the presence of an offensive player”.
i would change this slightly to this
“A defensive player cannot be obstructed from, or in the lead up to, making a tackle, or obstructed from maintaining their role in the defensive line, due to the presence of an offensive player”.
take the gold coast one on the weekend that bh said was a try, the cover defender had to run around the decoy. he was then half a second too late coming across. he was able to make a tackle but not the type of tackle he would have liked to have made. (had to hit him from the side, where he would have got his body in front of the man). plays are made in fractions of seconds and these little diversions people have to make to come across matter. it would be easy to tell if they were milking on the video ref (same as its easy to tell if the blockers have changed their lines when defending bombs)
in the end wording maybe not perfect but close enough that if they paid some decent brains to spend some time on it a solution could be found.
August 23rd 2012 @ 9:06pm
PuntPal said | August 23rd 2012 @ 9:06pm | Report comment
Agree with all this and your wording is better too! Damn! Need to include the lead up to making the tackle
Decoy plays have now become a tool to block defenders. It is as simple as that
August 24th 2012 @ 7:02am
soapit said | August 24th 2012 @ 7:02am | Report comment
i know and the refs are so far behind the coaches in realsing this it aint funny.
one set are pros and the other still act like amateurs.
August 23rd 2012 @ 5:05pm
Dave said | August 23rd 2012 @ 5:05pm | Report comment
Lets just make obstruction legal! I’ve become bored to tears with rugby league the last few years and finding myself drawn more and more towards other sports where there is some tactical variety.
I’ve been trying to imagine what the game would look like if obstruction or blocking ala grid iron was allowed? Who knows? Would be fun to watch though I reckon and would completely change the game.
Yes yes I know I might very possibly be in a minority of one here. But seriously, what would the game look like? what would it evolve into? I don’t think it would turn into grid iron with no forward passing and play the balls continuing as they do now. Any interest anyone?
August 23rd 2012 @ 5:34pm
Ian Whitchurch said | August 23rd 2012 @ 5:34pm | Report comment
Dave,
Rugby league with obstruction being legal wouldnt just look like gridiron. It would *be* gridiron.
August 23rd 2012 @ 5:56pm
Dave said | August 23rd 2012 @ 5:56pm | Report comment
Would it though? differences I can think of straight away no forward passing, play the balls (no time to set up), kicks in general play, offsides. I think it could be quite different.
August 23rd 2012 @ 6:03pm
Ian Whitchurch said | August 23rd 2012 @ 6:03pm | Report comment
Dave,
Rugby league does forward passing. They just do it by foot, and if you miss, possession turns over.
If we’re allowed obstruction, we get the players moving up into the line as the play-the-ball is happening. The ball gets back slow enough so our blockers be into position to hit the defensive line as the ball goes to the ball distributor without ever jumping offside.
August 23rd 2012 @ 6:14pm
Dave said | August 23rd 2012 @ 6:14pm | Report comment
Yes but the kicker couldn’t kick to some one in front of them. Offside law doesn’t change!
August 23rd 2012 @ 7:41pm
Ian Whitchurch said | August 23rd 2012 @ 7:41pm | Report comment
Dave,
Clearly you dont remember Andrew Johns doing timing passes off his boot – kicking it in an arc so that the winger could go up the field and then make his out pattern while the ball was in the air.
Yes, this doesnt work against zone … but NRL defenses are pure man, or man and a fullback/safety back in cover-1.
August 23rd 2012 @ 7:12pm
soapit said | August 23rd 2012 @ 7:12pm | Report comment
dave it would be a completely different game and a complete dogs breakfast for 10 years until the pros got comfortable with how the new game worked.
might still be good to watch but it would pretty much kill rugby league as you know it.
August 23rd 2012 @ 7:15pm
Meesta Cool said | August 23rd 2012 @ 7:15pm | Report comment
Which bit of these seven guidelines deals with Robbie running into a defender than throwing his arms skywards in an appeal. I only see the onus on attacking players trying to avoid contact with him!.
Saw this tactic in SOO game 3. it backfired that night, but has worked several times over the last few seasons.
August 23rd 2012 @ 9:18pm
PuntPal said | August 23rd 2012 @ 9:18pm | Report comment
Yep meesta, you are right – if we are going to place the onus on the decoy to not make contact or obstruct, then the flip side is that the defenders who are caught milking the rule by pretending to be obstructed, should be penalised and sin binned for professional foul
August 24th 2012 @ 7:08am
soapit said | August 24th 2012 @ 7:08am | Report comment
yes it does seem that the unwritten part of the rule is that contact must be made for you to be impeded and for you to not be allowed to run behind. adds another level of unnesesary complexity for me
August 23rd 2012 @ 7:20pm
Meesta Cool said | August 23rd 2012 @ 7:20pm | Report comment
I am also getting very frustrated in what constitutes a blocking motion when the ball is kickes towards the wing. I have seen sheperds paid as blocks, and not paid (Does it once again depend which team does it)?,
I have seen players ‘bumped, pushed and pulled off their line of attack. there has been a multitude of ways developed to ‘block an attacker, each in my opinion as much a ‘blocking action’ as the next one!. OK Bill sort that one out for us as well.
August 24th 2012 @ 7:05am
soapit said | August 24th 2012 @ 7:05am | Report comment
you are allowed to run towards the spot where the ball will land at any speed. any deviation of line should be a penalty.