The Waratahs’ slippery, slippery slope
By PC, 23 Aug 2012 The Crowd is a Roar Guru
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The woeful Waratahs have the Wallabies staring down the barrel (AAP Image/Paul Miller)
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I have been buying family Waratahs memberships since 1996. I am saddend to say that the current administrators of the Waratahs have betrayed rugby in New South Wales.
Not only have you not attracted new followers to the code, you have alienated rusted on followers like myself.
Look at the massive TV NRL deal and tremble. In 1996 you had it easy with the Super League war and have missed opportunity after opportunity ever since.
I only attended two games out of the membership last year and will now only renew my basic membership with no packages.
The two games I did go to were average and the others I watched on TV were rubbish.
Forget Tah Man, Flash for Cash and the peripheral rubbish.
The team seems to have no passion, no sense of urgency and no spark and are an embarrasing bore to watch.
The same was reflected in the appaling first Bledisloe Cup match, in which about half the players were Waratahs.
The game was played in the same passionless thoughtless style of slow motion drudgery as a Waratahs game.
Many of my non-rugby friends who did go on Saturday commented on the lack of urgency, skill and atmosphere and virtually said “never again”.
This is not entirely NSW’s fault, but the only thing the Waratahs are creative about is making up lame excuses for killing off rugby as a competitor to league and AFL.
Banning waterboys, leg rubbers and other message deliverers from the field at every breakdown would be a start.
Sacking incompetent referees and assistant referees would be great as well, as too may games are decided by officials who see forward passes that aren’t there and miss ones that are.
Officials can’t see crooked throws or scrum feeds, can’t adjudicate on tries under there noses and worst of all have no idea of enforcing the offside laws.
At least the IRB has seen the light and put a 5sec limit on “Meercating” a favourite pastime of halfbacks these days.
Rugby needs to bring in a five metres law at all rucks as most teams like All Blacks and ‘Boks are masters at infringing this and getting away with it.
There are no contests after the first one or two seconds at the breakdown. Most of the Tahs players think they are playing American Football, lining up across the field with no attempt to counter ruck.
Then there was the farce of Jonathan Caplan allowing repeated infringements just outside the try-line, stopping possible tries in the last few mins of the game and finally deciding to give a yellow card after the full time siren.
There needs to be video ref review of forward passes and offsides to give the game some credibility again.
Maybe the captain can ask for a video review of three decisions (league looks like bring this in as well, leading from the front).
Some of the problem falls at feet of the IRB – the worst thing they did was get rid of real rucks.
However despite all this, the Woefultahs will not be getting more than the basic rego next season from me.
I am sure if I want to, I won’t have a problem getting a ticket anyway as the stands are getting emptier and emptier.
And don’t think that the game against the Lions will suck people in to fork out more money. By the time the tour comes around I think the Tahs will be more lifeless than Monty Python’s dead parrot.
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August 23rd 2012 @ 2:40am
Johnno said | August 23rd 2012 @ 2:40am | Report comment
-I hope who ever comes into TAH Land as head coach, and this new board, are committed and motivated to fix the place up. I am optimistic this is the case. I hope so. The best tah match this year was vs the SHARKS in day time. in fact the best game of rugby all year super rugby and test rugby included was a cracking advertisement for attacking running rugby end to end stuff, more day games if they make money that is. Fans clearly don’t like travelling to the SFS at night, the wallabies played a day test at the SFS it was good energy vs wales too.
-The tv deal in the bigger picture doesn’t worry as much. Remember $1 billion dollars between 16 NRL teams plus 16 national youth teams, plus spending money on sg ball and harold matthews etc.
-Super rugby only has 5 teams and this new national academy . The salary cap hasn’t risen dramatically either each player will be paid a minimum of $70k.
-Super rugby expansion i can only see Japan coming in. They have the money and are not 2 far from aussy/NZ distance or timzoen wise. And they have a bit of depth , they will have to be flexible on imports.
-Argentina i don’t think it is too far we already have sth africa to deal with, argentina will be tough leg. I have a hunch USA/Canada.mexico/brazil/argentna will form there own super rugby comp or some of those coutnries anyway.
-But if we get Japan in SANZAR will get good tv deal and this will add good money to tahs in 2016.
Big cleanout at tahs for 2013.
-Elsom
-Mumm
Vickerman
-Chris alcock
-Pretorius most likely
-I think Luke Burgess was massively missed by both TAHS and wallabies, his contribution was underestimated, he is not as good as genia passing wise but Genia is no speed demon in the pass, but Luke burgess was a good runner justin marshall style and got the team going forwad and was good communicator and team player. He was big loss tahs should of fought to keep him.
-Mckibbin is okay i suppose. Michela Hooper is going to tahs so will be a good buy.
Ben mowen left and has improved out of sight
-There is hope for the tahs but time will tell i would sack Gaffney too, cheika may be the man time will tell ex randwick man so he is well identified in the area. The other thing the tahs have to shed is the Moore park set sydney tahs, they need to represent all of NSW, other wise just re franchise and scrap the tahs altogether. Cricket did this in T20 big bash scrapped state provinces , maybe aussy rugby with the tahs , should do the same. Brumbies are now canberra brumes not ACT.
August 23rd 2012 @ 12:22pm
Lats said | August 23rd 2012 @ 12:22pm | Report comment
Agree about Burgess, he was a massively underatted player. His running game was miles ahead of Genias (IMO).. his only problem was he couldnt pass to the right.. kind of weird for a test level scrum half.. if his passing had of been a bit better, he would be up there as one of the best halfbacks Australia ever produced. Oh well.
August 23rd 2012 @ 2:42am
p.Tah said | August 23rd 2012 @ 2:42am | Report comment
You kind of lost me in the middle PC, but I get the overall sentiment. There are a lot of fans, myself included who are disillusioned with the Tahs. I’ve been contemplating whether to renew my membership but I decided I will now. The last few years have been pretty dismal, but things appear to be changing at Moore park.
In the last few months, the Chairman has resigned, the coach departed, the team Manger has quit, the Captain has gone overseas and a number of players have left. It’s been one he*ll of a clean out. A new Chairman and several new board members with extensive business credentials have joined. A new highly sort after coach is rumoured to be joining. The Nick Farr-Jones lead NSWRU is demanding the Tahs better connect with grassroots rugby. At least there is change in the air. Time will tell if it eventuates into something positive, but I’m watching with interest.
August 23rd 2012 @ 8:36am
formeropenside said | August 23rd 2012 @ 8:36am | Report comment
Thats alright. Come support the Reds. Rugby is doing fine up here in Qld.
August 23rd 2012 @ 11:02am
johnson said | August 23rd 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
yawn, the Waratahs biggest problem is its fans. I feel embarrassed the way other Tahs supporters carry on. Support your team or go watch league.
August 23rd 2012 @ 11:19am
Bay35Pablo said | August 23rd 2012 @ 11:19am | Report comment
Johnson. Strangely we Tahs fans have high expectations of our team. We meant to keep quiet while we watch a potentially great team underperform decade after decade? The day I stop caring is the day I shut up. And I still care.
August 23rd 2012 @ 11:34am
johnson said | August 23rd 2012 @ 11:34am | Report comment
Under perform decade after decade? Its only been the last few years that we have not made the finals (could you get any more dramatic) Since a vocal minority got Ewan sacked for not winning finals of the super 14′s. Even when we win people complain that its not done a way that they enjoy.
August 23rd 2012 @ 11:42am
jeznez said | August 23rd 2012 @ 11:42am | Report comment
Rath closed his excellent article today with this quote from Teddy Roosevelt:
“Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.”
I want the Tahs to bring back the derring-do, the swash-buckle, the razzle and the dazzle. For too long they have tended to have a game plan to keep it close and hope for the win. The belief that winning would forgive all faults and that by losing by not much that they would be ok has been killing this team.
Sure they have made lots of finals but they have not generally entered into those finals as a force or threat that the other sides were fearful of. The last times they did we had a dangerous Beale at 10, or Rogers pulling strings in the back line. The less said about this season the better.
Time to put the broom through the place, open up the windows and have a spring clean. Lets get the guys in shape so they are the fittest in the comp and then couple the good scrum with some enterprise and pace. The retention of Tom Carter implies that type of change isn’t coming but as a loyal fan I continue to hope.
August 23rd 2012 @ 2:36pm
Rabbitz said | August 23rd 2012 @ 2:36pm | Report comment
Fitness? Sure but not the muscle bound bad old days of a couple of seasons ago where the sculptured adonises in the forwards couldn’t actually push or tackle…
August 23rd 2012 @ 4:06pm
jeznez said | August 23rd 2012 @ 4:06pm | Report comment
Rabbitz, agree but with the retirement of Baxter and Mumm we’ve already gone a long way to fixing that.
The first choice pack and reserves for the Tahs looks like this:
1. Robinson
2. Polota-Nau
3. Kepu
4. Timani
5. Douglas
6. Dennis
7. Hooper
8. Palu
16. Ulugia (or Fitzpatrick)
17. Tilse
18. Ryan
19. To be confirmed (will Vickerman come back, will Peterson step up or will Stanford nail down the position?)
20. McCutcheon (or Alcock or Jenkins)
There is beef right through that pack, get them fit as anything and they’ll still have the power to match the strongest packs in the competition.
August 23rd 2012 @ 4:18pm
Brett McKay said | August 23rd 2012 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
won’t be Alcock Jez, signed with the Force yesterday….
August 23rd 2012 @ 6:19pm
Rabbitz said | August 23rd 2012 @ 6:19pm | Report comment
Can we fit Clyde in?
August 28th 2012 @ 7:38pm
John Allyne said | August 28th 2012 @ 7:38pm | Report comment
Tom carter has the passion and fitness to lead the team in 2013 also has the knowledge to be a top line rugby coach a lot more than you would have achieved in life
August 28th 2012 @ 7:53pm
Johnno said | August 28th 2012 @ 7:53pm | Report comment
Are you out of your mind John. Tom Carter represents the image of all that is wrong with aussy rugby. He is just another elitist who went to a private school like the majority of pro rugby players in OZ . He came form the private school system, Kings and knox. He is white middle class, and went to a private school John. AFL and NRL have a hell of a lot more poor disadvangted people who played and followed it. And Tom Carter got outclassed by the more talented big robbie fruen missed him all day. He has never stood up to the classier players in super rugby, he is no Man Nonu or SBW. He is average player, is seen as overly brash and loud by team-mates and fans, and represents the wrong of rugby union. Give me men like greg inglis, or izzy folau, or justin hedges men from working class backgrounds. Most aussiies cant relate to Tom Carter and the image of his back ground John Allyne is all that is wrong with rugby in OZ. I went to one of these elite private schools, and played 1st 15 rugby like tom carter, and the private school system and elist image is all that is such a cor problem with rugby in Australia.
-Many rugby fans don’t realise that therel ifefstyle in OZ, and demorgrahic they are the minority of the football codes.
-Where as in NZ rugby is a game for the masses not what school you went to or how big your bank balance is, they attract talant from everywhere.
August 23rd 2012 @ 5:23pm
levelheaded said | August 23rd 2012 @ 5:23pm | Report comment
Great call johnson, sick of reading sack everyone, that’s crap! Players need to take accountability in football teams and fans need to as well! How the hell can a AFL team struggling like Melbourne attract 35,000 plus members, because their fans are committed!! I have written before and I will again, these guys have played in the finals for 5 of the last 7 years, yes they haven’t won, but you have to have rocks in your head to say they have underperformed. The competition has grown with two more teams in Australia and there is no such thing as a nursery anymore, with strict rules in place it is more of an even recruiting field in Aus. You can’t just sack underperforming players and seriously if you want the joint to be successful buy a membership or otherwise you are just another martyr!
August 23rd 2012 @ 11:18pm
johnson said | August 23rd 2012 @ 11:18pm | Report comment
nice one levelhead, and good call on Martyr. sums up so many Waratah ‘fans’.
August 24th 2012 @ 4:32pm
levelheaded said | August 24th 2012 @ 4:32pm | Report comment
Cheers johnson, they couldn’t be fans, probably just rugby supporters who jump on the bandwagon when they are winning and love to stick it to them when they are losing. Seems like a culture in NSW and sadly it will not get better for the whole of NSW until Rugby people buy into supporting the tahs!!! They give money back to the community…….they are the shopfront for rugby……..makes sense and is very, very simple!!!
August 27th 2012 @ 6:20pm
Matthew Skellett said | August 27th 2012 @ 6:20pm | Report comment
Hey with you there buddy but I believe that ALL the Waratahs Franchise People ( Admin, Coaches and Players ) have to get the pink slip . Whatabout about “TahMan “? I don’t know who the rocket scientist was who thought him up as a cheap alternative to a cheer squad full of long -legged, volupteous , attractive nubile young women BUT HE HAS TO GO and WE WANT DA CHEER SQUAD BACK