Why the A-League needs Del Piero
By Mike Tuckerman, 31 Aug 2012 Mike Tuckerman is a Roar Expert
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Juventus' Alessandro Del Piero. AP Photo/Massimo Pinca
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No disrespect to FC Sion but Alessandro Del Piero has a decision to make which could help change the face of football in this country.
For those of you who don’t know – possibly because you’ve been living under a rock with a malfunctioning wi-fi connection – Sydney FC have launched an audacious bid to sign one of Italian football’s greatest ever players.
Let’s start with the facts. He’s Juventus’ all-time leading goal scorer. He won 91 caps (and a World Cup) with Italy.
He was recently voted one the 100 greatest living footballers, for goodness sake! (Although the notable omission of Paul Wade suggests the voting system may have been somewhat flawed).
And Sydney FC have pitched the chance for Del Piero to create the kind of legacy Dwight Yorke tried but ultimately failed to leave.
One which says Australia is a legitimate destination for world-class players to showcase their skills, now and into the future.
Yet a quick glance at some of the Italian and Swiss press on the matter suggests such an opportunity doesn’t necessarily hold much cachet in Europe.
La Gazzetta dello Sport expressed Sydney FC’s late interest only as an afterthought, while Le Nouvelliste in Switzerland seemed to indicate Del Piero’s move to Sion is all but a done deal.
Meanwhile other outlets are hinting that Del Piero could yet end up at Celtic or Tottenham Hotspur, with ‘Alex’ himself said to be an enthusiastic fan of the Hoops.
But surely the lure of playing Champions League football for Celtic is negated by the fact the Scottish Premier League is now a one-horse race, whilst London is hardly likely to offer Del Piero anything he hasn’t seen before.
And while Sion – presided over by one of the most madcap owners in European football, it must be said – may have lured ex-Milan star Gennaro Gattuso to the fold, the hope is that Del Piero appreciates the opportunity to be part of something bigger.
He can be more than just another European veteran winding down his twilight years in a European league and instead become the spark which re-ignites mainstream interest in the A-League.
And given that Del Piero, who is well known for his philanthropy and broad outlook on life, has expressed his approval of David Beckham doing precisely that in the United States, there seems a genuine chance a living Italian legend could soon call Sydney home.
I’m not sure it will ensure sold-out signs at every Sydney FC home game, as some analysts have suggested.
There will always be cynics who deride the quality of the A-League (usually without ever bothering to actually attend matches) and Del Piero is obviously more likely to appeal to the local Italian community than to fans from other European backgrounds.
But there is no doubt that signing a player of his calibre would represent the biggest coup an A-League club has pulled off to date.
Saying as much is to get ahead of ourselves though and it would be a crushing blow for Australian football if Del Piero turns down a proposed move to the harbour city.
It would be a shame if he does, because the A-League could really use a timely boost as the clock ticks down towards kick-off in the 2012-13 campaign.
Here’s hoping Sydney FC’s courting of Del Piero doesn’t leave fans with a case of ‘so near, yet so far’ deflation.
Del Piero is the right man for the Sky Blues, now they just need to make clear they’re the right club for him.
Mike Tuckerman is a Sydney-born journalist and lifelong football fan. After lengthy stints watching the beautiful game in Germany and Japan, he has settled in Brisbane and has been a Roar columnist since December 2008. Follow Mike on twitter @Mike_Tuckerman
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August 31st 2012 @ 5:25am
Bondy. said | August 31st 2012 @ 5:25am | Report comment
I think it would be fantastic what some may not understand he left last years champions Juve, he’s not some Seria C player admittadely he’s 37 yrs of age its a gamble but he has the brain, i’ll never understand why and how a marquee signing is meant to turn australian football on its head .
Why is there an expectation mostly from other sports supporters that a foreign marquee player must suddenly fill 60,000 seat stadiums ,register another 75,000 kids to the sport and make an A League club a couple of mill a year while he’s at it, Why ?
I think the bids audacious and good on Sydney Fc its a shame so many want to knock it on the head and call it a failure even before anything really eventuates, but hey thats football. As a A League supporter I know excactly what to expect if a 37 yr old played in the A League I dont need it explained to me by somebody from another sport that overall doesn’t care about football in Australia nor watches it.
I dont suspect this deal will come through but theres no harm in trying.
August 31st 2012 @ 5:11pm
Simmo said | August 31st 2012 @ 5:11pm | Report comment
AT best, these kind of signings reinvigorate the existing fanbase. They don’t create many, if any, new fans. They do however, give a very good reason for part-timers and lapsed fans to get back to the stadium.
September 1st 2012 @ 12:28am
DuffyV said | September 1st 2012 @ 12:28am | Report comment
If Sydney FC is paying more than any other club in the world, for the once Italian seagull, then Sydney FC will have also proven to be the most financially stupid club in the world.
Would it not be more clever to offer free tickets for half the season at a comparable cost???
98% of the population in Sydney do not even know, nor remember, how good he once was!!!!
September 1st 2012 @ 12:56am
DuffyV said | September 1st 2012 @ 12:56am | Report comment
Secondly, does this not smell of an FFA dictation/offer to pick up half the tab of a Sydney FC marquee signing, as the only compensation for the 5-10 times amount they are about to pour into the new local competition?????
All the more reason Sydney FC needs to spend the paltry 1m compensation very shrewdly.
August 31st 2012 @ 6:53am
gawa said | August 31st 2012 @ 6:53am | Report comment
It’s great to see Sydney attempt a signing of this size, much like Melbourne Victory deserve the plaudits for lifting the profile of the A League last year by signing Kewell.
As for the negative comments above, it’s obvious that person is not a fan of football at all and is simply nervous and jealous about where football in Australia is heading.
August 31st 2012 @ 8:16am
Kasey said | August 31st 2012 @ 8:16am | Report comment
Last years signing of Kewell was a master stroke by MVC. Did they streak the league? No, what is undeniable is the wave of positive media that surrounded the league last year at the start of the season following the acquisition of Brett Emerton and Harry Kewell.
I feel that the errors made in scheduling 2 seasons ago had been fixed for last year and thus last year was always likely to produce an improvement in the attendance KPI, but it had to have helped to finally get some sustained positive press regarding football in this country.
Should the Sky Blues snare del Piero, I anticipate a smaller(both HK&BE were returning Socceroos – higher general population Q-factor than ADP) but still significant wave of positive press for the launch of this season’s competition in October.
One of the major downers for last year(GCU) is no longer with us, replaced with the higher potential of WSW, so this season is ready to kick off with a positive sentiment amongst football fans(unprecedented 2 yrs in a row for a bunch that have negative pessimism as a default setiing) but ADP would certainly help in terms of raising the mood of football fans going into the season.
August 31st 2012 @ 9:47am
AndyRoo said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:47am | Report comment
It does seem helpful if there is at least one exciting signing (genuine marquee) coming into the league before each season.
It provides and easy and quick narrative about the upcoming season for the non football press to grasp onto.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:22am
Kasey said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:22am | Report comment
It makes football seem that bit more accessible doesn’t it?
I can’t see why anybody would be against this unless hey just hate football.
As an AU fan, its not my club, its not my money. If the owners of SFC want to take the risk all power to them.
It will generate even more positive coverage for the League in the run up to kick off on Oct5th. A rising tide lifts al boats. My team stands to benefit if AdP signs, just as we did in an oblique way when HK signed for MVC. Its no coincidence that the other teams in the HAL recorded their highest crowds when “Harry Kewell’s Melbourne Victory visited town.
AUv MVC is always going to draw a bumper crowd, but AU v SFC hasn’t yet built to the same level of rivalry. Adelaide v Alessandro del Piero’s Sydney would guarantee a sell out at Hindmarsh! Not only is Adelaide a knowledgeable football town, but prior to United’s entry to the NSL we were represented by a certain team who were formed as Adelaide Juventus. I’d bet a body part those ADLCity fans who have not already become AUFC fans would buy a ticket and join the Sky Blue travellers in supporting SFC for the night.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:17am
Ian Whitchurch said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:17am | Report comment
In 2010, the Victory averaged 15 200 home crowds.
In 2011, the Victory averaged 20 281 home crowds.
Emerton and Kewell appeared to be worth about 5k through the gate.
Lets assume you net $10 per ticket, after you split the ground rental with the owner (no matter what the code, owning your own ground is really important).
OK, so thats $50k extra revenue a game. Call it a round million a year.
But the big however is the Melbourne Victory’s crowds in 2009 were … 20750.
Was the 2010 crowd a one-off, and the 2011 crowds not due to the big marquee signings, but just to a reversion to their usual crowd ?
If it was, I’d be a lot happier buying a player who will help get wins, but making sure they are someone that the club have a chance to sell on – someone like Nicky Carle, for example – rather than a one-last year veteran who played more than 20 minutes in 7 games last year.
That said, he knows where the goals are, and the A-League plays a shorter season than most.
But yeah. I’d remember the A-League is a selling league, and concentrate on being a damn good one, rather than being a retirement home for once-great players.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:34am
Fussball ist unser leben said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:34am | Report comment
Ian Whitchurch
You are an ARF fan and you are not committed – financially or emotionally – to the HAL or AUS Football.
You do not have any interest in, nor do you work towards, helping the HAL thrive, so why should the AUS football community care what any non-football fan in AUS thinks about anything to do with our Beautiful Game?
It’s as ridiculous as my providing my deep thoughts to AUS fans of basketball or baseball about potential signings … why would they care about my ignorant analysis?
Thankfully, no decision-makers in the HAL would give a stuff what ARF-fans think about this – or any other football issue.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:37am
slickwilly said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:37am | Report comment
and yet your not backward in offering your opinon on australian football (AFL) threads
August 31st 2012 @ 11:02am
Fussball ist unser leben said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
Certain AFL fans enter Football discussion every day.
Show me evidence of my entering more than a dozen non-football discussion topics in the past 365 days.
August 31st 2012 @ 11:17am
Bondy. said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:17am | Report comment
slickwilly.
Nice to meet you for the first time here.Unusual you would start fighting with strangers on your fist post,that generally takes time here.
August 31st 2012 @ 4:33pm
millane said | August 31st 2012 @ 4:33pm | Report comment
with respect fuzzy, you’ve often said you dont comment on other threads… you have no need to – fair enough i say…
and yet you do… why the discrepancy… are you a man of your word or not..
August 31st 2012 @ 10:41am
Ian Whitchurch said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:41am | Report comment
*sigh* Fussball, you arent thinking with your brain, and you’re playing the man rather than the ball. Again.
Now, answer the argument, especially given how I was much, much less enthusiastic about the Kewell deal than you were … and Harry Kewell is a far, far better overpaid aging marquee than Del Piero.
By the way, you probably want to read this
http://swissramble.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/truth-about-debt-at-barcelona-and-real.html
August 31st 2012 @ 10:51am
Fussball ist unser leben said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:51am | Report comment
Watching Australia’s greatest ever football, Harry Kewell, playing every fortnight for MVFC – in my stadium, in my home city – is, by far, the highlight of my 7 year involvement with the HAL.
Yes, I’ve enjoyed winning the League title (twice) & Cup competition (twice) and other memorable games.
But, for pure joy every fortnight … nothing comes close to watching H last year.
Having said all that and, as much as I don’t want SFC to succeed, Ale Del Piero coming to the HAL would surpass anything Harry did. Why? Because Del Piero’s signing will make noise around the globe.
I’ve seen kids in the slums of Africa & India wearing Juventus shirts with “Del Piero” on the back. Harry has been the most recognisable AUS sportsman around the globe … but, if you think Harry has a higher-profile than Ale you’re deluded.
I’m sorry, but I get frustrated having discussions with people, who claim to be experts on a subject, but their expertise is driven by “the Google search engine”.
PS: Please save your energy & don’t post weblinks for my benefit. I refuse to waste my time on any links posted by people whose sole purpose to enter a football discussion is to take potshots & try to diminish anything to do with AUS football.
August 31st 2012 @ 11:08am
Ian Whitchurch said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:08am | Report comment
Fussball,
You enjoyed Kewell, and that was nice. But he didnt pull the crowds through the gate that you said he would, and now he’s gone.
The article really is one you should read – the TLDR is Barca and Real have much solider finances than people think. Theres some interesting comments in the comments about the FFP rules effectively “ring fencing” the big clubs, and ensuring upstarts cant match them.
But yeah. Unlike you, I have ambition for the A-League. I want to see a league where clubs own their own grounds, and where memberships provide a solid base for finances, and where overspending is strictly controlled to ensure steady growth rather than boom and bust.
A key part of that happening is fans of that code not being a snarling ball of vicious slander when people who have the utter temerity to like several sports express interest. Now, I realise you like being a snarling ball of vicious slander, and it makes you feel better to insult and belittle other codes.
But do whats you need to for the good of the code. Theres abouta million people who are regular attendees of footy games that stop just before the A-League starts.
Being nice to them might help some of them sho up and help grow the code you like.
August 31st 2012 @ 11:24am
Fussball ist unser leben said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:24am | Report comment
Ian, last year, when Harry joined MVFC … we averaged crowds of 27,889 for our 5 matches at Docklands stadium.
This is the HIGHEST average crowd for MVFC at in 6 seasons of playing matches at Docklands. No doubt the number would be even higher if MVFC has played 2 home Derbies last season, as we will this season.
There’s no point comparing MVFC crowds from Season 7 – when we played 60% of home matches at AAMI Park (capacity 30k) with Season 2 when we played 100% of matches at Docklands (capacity 55k).
MVFC were absolutely rubbish on the park last year. If the club had played the style of beautiful football that Brisbane played last year … my knowledge of the MVFC fanbase indicates our crowds would have been much higher towards the end of the season.
In relation to AAMI Park, last season there were only ~5k tickets available for public sale. MVFC had 19k committed members, plus 5-6k assigned to sponsors & 1k for Away fans.
PS: “Grow the code” … Football is the BIGGEST & MOST POPULAR team sporting code in Australia. So many ARF fans confuse “the code” with “the professional league”. All over the world, there are more people involved with football OUTSIDE the elite professional leagues than within the elite professional leagues. The same occurs in Australia.
August 31st 2012 @ 11:28am
AndyRoo said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:28am | Report comment
While I am a bit sceptical of Del Piero being worth the money (assuming 2m plus) I think it would be better for the league to have him rather than not.
I count Kewell as a success. I wouldn’t just count the extra gates but the fact the league as a whole bucked the downward spiral was important. Apart from Kewell and Emerton the only real explanation for the increase was much better fixturing.
August 31st 2012 @ 4:18pm
Realfootball said | August 31st 2012 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
Give it a break, Fussball. Whitchurch offers consistently thoughtful, informed comment. You would have been an awful witchburner in the middle ages.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:42am
Ian said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:42am | Report comment
well i ‘m going to respond to Ian Whitchurch.
i’m not sure the crowd stats in 2011-12 can be put down to just two players for sydney and MV. you would have to look at the average crowd figures over the preceding years – you can see them on FFA or wikipedia. in general there was a drop in crowds either season 4 or 5 across every club and there has been a pick up since then. look at all clubs to find the trend. though some will have different reasons for dropping or rising…….like playing well or playing rubbish.
August 31st 2012 @ 11:09am
Ian Whitchurch said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
Ian,
Yeah. My thesis is that Kewell, or any other marquee player, doesnt have much effect on crowds through the gate.
August 31st 2012 @ 11:27am
Punter said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:27am | Report comment
Ian, I ask you why do you care so much?
I don’t think after the first 2 games did Falou pull any crowds thru the gate? Then why is he one of the highest paid players in the AFL & he’s pretty average, maybe because even after a full season in the AFL, he is the only GWS player anyone knows in Sydney.
There is a reason for everything, it’s not all about crowds.
August 31st 2012 @ 11:31am
Kasey said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:31am | Report comment
Punter,
AFL fans have an un-natural obsession with crowds, I think it comes from years of beating up on RL fans by using the ” ours are bigger than yours so you must be utter sh*t!” argument.
August 31st 2012 @ 2:49pm
Australian Rules said | August 31st 2012 @ 2:49pm | Report comment
Punter
I agree that Izzy probably didn’t pull huge numbers through the gate but he certainly attracted print space and public awareness of the club – whether he has given value for the marketing part of his salary is debatable…I think he probably has.
Kasey
I think AFL fans cite crowds for 2 reasons. 1) As you say, crowds are a bragging point. 2) Crowds are the clearest & strongest indicator of support for a sport or team. You can be slightly rubbery with other statistics, including tv ratings, memberships, particpation and other stuff…but a full house speaks for itself.
A TV exec once said about the impact of crowds: the difference between a full stadium and an empty one, is the same difference between a full glass of beer and an empty one.
August 31st 2012 @ 11:59am
Kasey said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:59am | Report comment
Ian W
besides arguing the pure business of the deals (HK& ADP) how do you account for the goodwill on your Spreadshet?
I’m speaking of the positive Press the game receives and the publicity given by non-football media when they would otherwise normally ignore the game?
August 31st 2012 @ 12:04pm
Punter said | August 31st 2012 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
Exactly Kasey, like Dwight Yorke & Harry Kewell before him, they had a presence beyond the football community.
August 31st 2012 @ 12:14pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | August 31st 2012 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
Lads, based on what I’ve read of Ian W’s posts over the past 12 months, he has no appreciation of the intangibles in the Beautiful Game. He is a “stats man”. Anyone, who quotes a players “shots on target” or “minutes played” has no appreciation for the underlying Game.
In 1982, FIFA WC match at Estadi de Sarrià in Catalonia, no one remembers or cares about the number of “shots on target” by a bloke called Paolo Rossi … but we all remember Rossi hit the back of the net 3 times & eliminated, perhaps, the best international football team I’ve seen in the past 35 years.
I’m sure Ian W would have quoted low “shots on target” to dismiss Paolo Rossi, if he’d decided to come to the NSL.
August 31st 2012 @ 12:19pm
Kasey said | August 31st 2012 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
Perhaps baseball in particular SABRmetrics(Moneyball) might be more his style ; )
I’ll bet Ian W is a big cricket fan…they obsess over stats like the yanks do with baseball.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_statistics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabermetrics
August 31st 2012 @ 4:23pm
Realfootball said | August 31st 2012 @ 4:23pm | Report comment
Personally, I’m all for diversity of opinion, Fussball. Life is much more interesting that way.
As for deriding Whitchurch as a stats man, I have yet to encounter a more devoted stats man than yourself. Your standard technique is to bombard those who disagree with you with statistics until they are numb with boredom.
August 31st 2012 @ 4:28pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | August 31st 2012 @ 4:28pm | Report comment
Thanks for the kind words, Realfootball.
Hope you and your family have a wonderful week-end.
August 31st 2012 @ 4:33pm
Realfootball said | August 31st 2012 @ 4:33pm | Report comment
Thanks Fuss, you too. I’m off to see Heart play Wanderers tonight. First look at the new franchise.
August 31st 2012 @ 5:50pm
Football United said | August 31st 2012 @ 5:50pm | Report comment
EWWWWW Franchise! I call for all mentions of that hideous American word’ to be banned from the football forum and those who break such a rule to be exiled to internet football forum siberia!
August 31st 2012 @ 5:56pm
Kasey said | August 31st 2012 @ 5:56pm | Report comment
agree on that horrible F-word. Its part of the reason I dislike watching MLS on ESPN. football with Americanisms and yank accents just seems ‘wrong’ and grates on my ears. Anyone dropping that F-word regarding football or Australian sports in general should get a forum Yellow card. 2 offences is of course a Red card and an early shower!
August 31st 2012 @ 7:23am
MV Dave said | August 31st 2012 @ 7:23am | Report comment
Mark
I also hope you complained to the Italian newspapers about the various episodes of corruption and bribery in the Italian game…which cheats the fans. That is one of the real issues for Italian football not a WC game 6 years ago.
Del Piero would be a terrific signing for SFC and HAL and nothing you have said would change that.
August 31st 2012 @ 9:31am
Ian said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:31am | Report comment
do you mean Mike?
August 31st 2012 @ 9:47am
Damiano said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:47am | Report comment
“For those of you who don’t know – possibly because you’ve been living under a rock with a malfunctioning wi-fi connection – Sydney FC have launched an audacious bid to sign one of Italian football’s greatest ever players.”
Or quite possibly just reading the Roar, who couldn’t manage a story about this when it broke the day before yesterday, never mind, it was discussed ad nauseum in another column about Nicky Carle.
Latest news from Italy suggests Celtic are in prime position for his signature, with Sion already turned down.
I never usually watch Scottish football {I don’t have anything against it, I don’t want to offend any fans}, but I made the effort to watch Celtic in the Champions League play offs last night, and they look a decent side. They certainly at Juve’s quality, but I don’t suppose that’s the point.
@Blackmore, he is 37 and not quite the player he was… true, but are you inferring he’s not good enough for the A-League? How did you form that view?
August 31st 2012 @ 9:56am
Mike Tuckerman said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:56am | Report comment
Celtic appear to have given up the ghost: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19432356
August 31st 2012 @ 10:04am
phutbol said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:04am | Report comment
Cue signing announcement from Lennon…
August 31st 2012 @ 2:54pm
Peter Wilson said | August 31st 2012 @ 2:54pm | Report comment
He’s coming to Sydney – my neighbours nonna told him.
August 31st 2012 @ 11:52am
Blackmore said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:52am | Report comment
Not what I meant but I’d wonder if the money could be better spent?
August 31st 2012 @ 2:34pm
Midfielder said | August 31st 2012 @ 2:34pm | Report comment
Blackmore
HHHHHMMMMM big call I think if he stays on the park SFC make money … see both mine and Fusses comments a little earlier…
The price sounds huge … you need to see what revenue he can bring… its possible he could make SFC heaps of money…
The other thing he could bring on some of their younger players meaning their international transfer value will increase …. its a very smart move and maybe only SFC, MV & the Roar are capable of being in a position to profit from his arrival…
August 31st 2012 @ 9:55am
MV Dave said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:55am | Report comment
Ian
They deleted Marks post. He was complaining about the people of Oz calling the Italian team cheats after the 2006 WC match vs Socceroos. He claimed to be doing all in his power eg sending emails etc to AdP representatives and Italian newspapers telling them Oz wasn’t worthy of his presence here…truly nuts.
August 31st 2012 @ 8:25am
Cpaaa said | August 31st 2012 @ 8:25am | Report comment
Sydney FC as an international Football brand should be as iconic as the Opera House and Harbour Bridge. SFC needs trump cards, it needs to buy premierships through marquee signings like Del Piero. SFC cannot grow organic like the Mariners, or WSW. SFC is the Real Madrid of La Liga or the Chelsea of EPL.
I hope that Pignata is the man that understands this about Sydney FC, we dont care about organic, we want premierships, we want star players, we want legends to wear the blue.
If Del Piero falls short may i suggest another.. ex spanish international and Real Madrid attacking midfielder “Guti”. Who apparently says he is now just retired and taken up golf. SFC you never know?
August 31st 2012 @ 9:28am
Ian said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:28am | Report comment
why can’t sydney fc grow organically like the mariners?
why is sydney like real madrid or chelsea?
are you just referring to cash?
August 31st 2012 @ 9:58am
Cpaaa said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:58am | Report comment
Because SFC demands success as a city and as a football club.
Ian name me the biggest EPL clubs?
Name me 2 La Liga clubs?
Name me 1 Football club in countries USA, Brasil, Argentina, Croatia, Russia and even Belgium.
The answers will tend to be the same. Not always, but the biggest cities tend to have the biggest clubs, bigger budgets, bigger names.
We may be under a salary cap, but not all clubs are created equal. You have to think back to season 1 with Dwight York.
The HAL and brand Sydney would be poorer without him. Take in consideration that news papers and media are based in these cities as well.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:19am
Ian Whitchurch said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:19am | Report comment
Cpaaa,
So what you are saying is Sydney needs a banking consortium thats prepared to lend the club hundreds of millions on “dont worry about paying this back” terms, or a billionaire owner who lets the club lose hundreds of millions ?
August 31st 2012 @ 10:31am
Kasey said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:31am | Report comment
Sevco Sydney?
August 31st 2012 @ 10:32am
MV Dave said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:32am | Report comment
Ian
I think the owners of SFC are in a better position than you in determining if they can afford AdP. If they deem $2 million well spent then so be it…it certainly has created interest amongst the AFL fans
August 31st 2012 @ 10:36am
Ian said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:36am | Report comment
i typed a whole reply to MV Dave in response………..considering i’m Ian and not Ian Whitchurch i realised who MV Dave was replying to just in time.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:55am
Ian Whitchurch said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
MV Dave,
Despite what Fussball wants you to believe, Im a fan of all sorts of footy (and I had *exactly* the same attitude to Seattle getting involved in the Peyton Manning Sweepstakes, and for exactly the same reasons) … and I think Del Piero’s a dumb signing because I can’t see a way he’ll add value to the club in the medium to long term.
I dont like the Del Piero signing because he’s simply not a guy you can build a team around over the next 3-5 years.
He’s a 37 year old footy player, so the odds are he gets hurt in a game or at training sometime during the year, and at 37 you just dont heal as fast as you used to.
He’s not a guy you can sell on.
He’s not a guy that can become the familiar and recognised face of the team.
In short, he’s a one-year, flash in the pan signing. He’s the guy you sign if you arent planning for the long term.
I think he’s the sort of signing that appeals only to the fans who are rusted on … but I’d argue that Kewell was a name recognised by both the rusted on fans of the code and the broad mass of Australian sports fans – and he was markedly unsuccessful in bringing either of them through the gate (unless you want to use only one year as the benchmark, of course, and ignore what the team had been doing in the several years before that).
Its a rent-a-player deal. And the more I look at his stats last year, the more I think he isnt good enough last year to reliably dominate in the league (3 shots on goal in the games he started – guy was a professional sub).
August 31st 2012 @ 11:32am
MV Dave said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:32am | Report comment
Ian W
Glad to hear your a fan of different codes but AFL is your no 1 game. Therefore your posts on what is good or not for football in Oz should always be viewed with that caveat. Same as if l offered AFL advice on how to improve the game.
Also in response to your post above that Kool didn’t have much effect through the gate is wrong…virtually every teams highest home attendance was when MV visited and MV increased home crowds by 25%. If Kool hadn’t come then attendances may have been even lower than the previous season…and don’t forget for the most part MV underperformed on the field and missed the finals…so a 25% increase is significant.
August 31st 2012 @ 11:35am
Bondy. said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:35am | Report comment
Ian Whitchurch..
I understand your philosophy,but why does someone/ something always have to leave some form of legacy what did B Fevola do for AFL ,did he make the game greater ,do people look at afl players in a differnet way because of Fevola’s legacy ,did Fevola leave a legacy ? .
I understand your business acumen ,but who would be your marquee singing with stats like that please,you can explain why its not good business can you find somebody with he’s CV to replace him though?.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:32am
Ian said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:32am | Report comment
i’m not sure if the medium of internet posts are hampering this communication.
;you support SFC and consider them the best – that’s fine. every fan thinks their club is the best.
for me now, with season 8 approaching i don’t care about dwight york from 7 years ago. i care about now and what my team can achieve.
‘SFC as a city demands success’. are you quoting a motivational book? don’t misread these postings but i’m happy you love sydney fc.
the whole article is about AdP which would be fantastic but Adelaide would be recognised overseas for being successful against overseas teams by winning games. and i’m neither a sydney or adelaide supporter and i can name many clubs from overseas apart from manchester united, chelsea, barcelona and madrid..
and if having the media in sydney and or melbourne gives more credit to those clubs than warranted, that’s good for those clubs. the others will get attention by having to work twice as hard and win twice as much for half the recognition.
August 31st 2012 @ 5:57pm
Football United said | August 31st 2012 @ 5:57pm | Report comment
Because Sydney, along with Melbourne and possibly Brisbane, is a Big Club in football terms. We might have a Salary Cap but Big Club’s are the ones with the most money, the bigger stadiums, the biggest population base and need to be competing strongly on and off the pitch in order to satisfy the higher demands of their larger fan bases as well as increase local interest when they come visit the smaller clubs like Wellington or Gosford.
August 31st 2012 @ 8:48am
philipcoates said | August 31st 2012 @ 8:48am | Report comment
Mike, I think we’re all getting carried away with remarkably weak arguments as to why Del Piero would want to come to Aust. There is much talk of “legacy”; as you’ve phrased it, ‘which says Australia is a legitimate destination for world-class players to showcase their skills’. Excuse me asking the bleeding obvious question, but WHY would ADP give a continental about Australia or Australian football? It’s usual to leave a “legacy” over something you care deeply about. Could ADP even name the capital of Australia? I wonder.
I also doubt ADP would “re-ignite mainstream interest in the A-League”. The mainstream wouldn’t know much about him at all. Aficionado’s would know him and have an interest. I recon the mainstream interest would be tenfold more excited if a Cahill or a Bresciano announced they were coming to play in the A-League.
Finally, any comparison with Beckham’s move to the USA is non-sense. Beck’s signed a three year deal worth $US6.5M per year and that was just for playing. The fact that Beck’s got to raise his profile in a country of over 300 million, and the add-on sponsorship and promotional opportunities that came with it were huge and make a move to Syd by ADP seem like a piddle in the ocean (all due respect to lovely Sydney).
Let’s focus on the A-League and what we have, without losing our heads in overexcited hyperbole of why one of the world’s best players might choose to come to our shores.
August 31st 2012 @ 8:57am
Kasey said | August 31st 2012 @ 8:57am | Report comment
I’d be very happy but will be shocked if del Piero comes to SFC.
The cynic in me suggests with that nagging voce that the SFC front Office have successfully achieved their mission.
Who is still talking about Nicky Carle leaving?
Even the Roar thread devoted to that event has been side tracked to an epic level by non football fans eager to stick their oar in the water.
August 31st 2012 @ 9:07am
Blackmore said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:07am | Report comment
He is 37 years old. What utter madness. Let’s hope he takes the coin on offer at Sion and Sydney dodge a bullet.
August 31st 2012 @ 9:34am
Mike Tuckerman said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:34am | Report comment
Javier Zanetti is 39 and is still captain of Inter.
August 31st 2012 @ 9:36am
Blackmore said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:36am | Report comment
Perhaps I should have said, 37 and not the player he was?
August 31st 2012 @ 9:59am
Christo the Daddyo said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
He’s just been playing at a top club in Serie A. The fact that he is 37 is pretty much irrelevant in this particular case. He would easily be a class above just above everyone else in the A-League.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:20am
Ian Whitchurch said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
Christo,
No, he hasnt. Check minutes on the field
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/12952/alessandro-del-piero?cc=3436
August 31st 2012 @ 10:27am
Titus said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:27am | Report comment
He is also being chased by Arsenal, Spurs, Southampton, Celtic, Sion and FC Tokyo.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:57am
whiskeymac said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:57am | Report comment
Arsenal? really? I have read Dzeko is a target but no story on AdP fitting into Arsenal’s team?
August 31st 2012 @ 11:12am
Ian Whitchurch said | August 31st 2012 @ 11:12am | Report comment
Titus,
The flip side of Del Piero being a professional sub is that he was a *good* professional sub – for example the games against Cesana and Lazio he had 4 shots on goal in 40 minutes.
If you’re able to keep him on the bench and use him in bursts, he will break defenses down very effectively.
But I really dont think thats value for Sydney.
August 31st 2012 @ 4:00pm
Titus said | August 31st 2012 @ 4:00pm | Report comment
Ian, have you seen some of the super subs in the EPL? I would have happily taken Torres or Berbatov last season.
While he would be a supersub at some of the bigger clubs, he would be targeted to play a big part at Celtic, Southhampton, Tokyo and FC Sydney.
At Sydney he would have a lot of pace and youth around him and it would just been a matter of him doing stuff like this;
Whiskeymac, the Arsenal rumours were from May and it is likely that there was never anything in it, I apologise.
August 31st 2012 @ 9:43am
Bondy. said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:43am | Report comment
Is there any difference between a 35yr old and a 37 yr old ?. He couldnt possibly want to play any longer than 39 ,if he’s fit than whats wrong with giving him a go everybody knows he’s over the age of 35 but does it really matter,what if he was succesful for two seasons.
Why is he’s age such a major impost he’s not expected to run a 100 mtrs in 10 sec’s, he’s not grossly overweight .
August 31st 2012 @ 7:55pm
asanchez said | August 31st 2012 @ 7:55pm | Report comment
Blackmore,
I’d agree with you in 99% of cases, but this one is a special case.
ADP played 28 games last season and scored a handful of goals. Suddenly, 37 doesn’t mean so much.
If you’re good enough to play in the Serie A at 37, you sure as hell can play in the A-league.
If he does sign for Sydney FC, am I expecting him to score 1 or 2 goals a game and kill everyone??
Definetely not! But what I would expect is to watch his awesome skills, his football brain at work and for ADP to bring in worldwide attention to the A-league, help grow the Sydney FC and the A-league brand, here and abroad, hopefully grow attendances, memberships and sponsorships for Sydney FC, and open good players minds to the A-league. Remembering that we do business in a world market, is that worth $2m? If you’ve got the money, why not??
Hope it comes off!!
August 31st 2012 @ 8:53pm
Jupiter53 said | August 31st 2012 @ 8:53pm | Report comment
Good post; my sentiments exactly
August 31st 2012 @ 9:27am
Fussball ist unser leben said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:27am | Report comment
Getting very close now.
Celtic boss, Neil Lennon has confirmed Celtic’s interest in Alessandro del Piero but, in news just in, Lennon says he does not expect the Italian to join the Scottish Premier League champions.
Celtic are in Group G of the UCL – with Benfica, Spartak Moskva & some team from Spain called Barcelona!
So, the Celtic boss considers Ale to be good enough to play in the biggest & toughest sporting league in the world … but some anti-football/anti-HAL clowns in Australia have been questioning what Ale can bring to HAL! Can you believe the ignorance?
The Italian press is now reporting Del Piero is “fascinated” by the opportunity presented from playing in Australia, with Sydney FC
And, even the anti-football Daily Telegraph has realised that Del Piero’s playing in the HAL makes signings in other sports pretty insignificant when it reported:
“The pay packet on offer (for Ale) makes the money being earned by the biggest stars in the AFL and NRL look like chump change.”
PS: A further endorsement of the HAL creating strong football capital, with former Sydney FC manager, Vitezslav Lavicka taking Sparta Prague through to the 2nd biggest club football competition in the world – the Europa League.
August 31st 2012 @ 1:04pm
CrossIT said | August 31st 2012 @ 1:04pm | Report comment
This has got me spun Fuss, twitterverse is giving me mixed signals and I don’t know what to think. Talk is Sion’s nutcase owner is splashing big on him and media in Swiss & broader Europe saying he’s as good as signed for them?
Side note: Celtic V Barca at Celtic Park again…….. oh my gawd oh my gawdd *hyperventilating*
August 31st 2012 @ 1:12pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | August 31st 2012 @ 1:12pm | Report comment
Can’t wait for the UCL Group Stages to start in a few weeks – something for football fans to enjoy during a very boring September month in Australia.
Celtic v Barca at Celtic Park will be massive – 8 November … 6:45 a.m in AUS. I’ll be wearing my Celtic Centenary shirt – has the “1888-1988″ badge – as I cheer on The Bhoys!
August 31st 2012 @ 1:25pm
Camshaft said | August 31st 2012 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
This is unacceptable. Please. Thanks, Roar Mods.
August 31st 2012 @ 9:30am
Australian Rules said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:30am | Report comment
Would be fantastic for the game but would a player choose $2M over $8M (which is reportedly what the Swiss & US offers were)…just for “Sydney lifestyle”..?
August 31st 2012 @ 9:47am
Fussball ist unser leben said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:47am | Report comment
He rejected the Swiss offer 48 hours ago.
August 31st 2012 @ 9:53am
phutbol said | August 31st 2012 @ 9:53am | Report comment
Unfortunately, I’m inclined to agree with philipcoates… why would he care about leaving a legacy in a place that really just doesnt register in the worlds established football circles. As much as I hate to say it, Australia is still seen as a backwater internationally. With a couple of notable exceptions, we cant even get our Aussie superstars to come home.
Lifestyle, environment and the short season are probably our best selling points.
I’d love to see it happen. But if i was putting money on it I’d want odds of at least 10-1.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:01am
MV Dave said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:01am | Report comment
The Beckham example used by SFC is a good one…AdP has done it all in Europe. Surley if he has some further objectives to achieve in football than helping a new league in Oz would sound attractive. Good luck SFC…
August 31st 2012 @ 10:16am
philipcoates said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:16am | Report comment
I’d be happy for ADP to come here, but it’s a bit of an insular position for us to say that helping a new league is OZ would be attractive … maybe he could help a new league in China, or some African state, or India, or Canada, pick a country – there are still plenty of places to leave a legacy in football. What makes us think Oz is more significant than any other place in ADP’s mind. And then we fall back on the possible “lifestlye” angle which is the same as saying “come over and kick a ball and have a holiday on Bondi beach”.
August 31st 2012 @ 10:27am
MV Dave said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:27am | Report comment
You can look at glass half full or half empty Phil…SFC have spent the last 3 evenings speaking to his reps so there must be interest. Oz also has a large expat Italian population which may or may not have an influence. Speculation is part of every football pre season and it is certainly refreshing to be discussing player movements rather than alleged crowd issues…
August 31st 2012 @ 10:12am
Damiano said | August 31st 2012 @ 10:12am | Report comment
Thanks for the update Mike, as Phutbol says, it doesn’t mean it won’t happen.
This is a much more positive article from you, even it isn’t that timely. Much better than the sensationalist drivel you turned in about the Ray Price statue & “Thugs” at our game. I had give up reading your articles, as I was wishing you’d write about a sport you actually like, but I think perhaps you do like Football after all.