Wallabies must start Ioane at 13
By Albo, 1 Sep 2012 Albo is a Roar Guru
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Something isn’t working. That we can all agree on. For a long time the backs have been the Wallabies strength while the forwards have been lacking the required ‘oomph’ and ‘mongrel’ to take on the bigger packs in the world (which are more numerous than we’d like).
Yet, last weekend there was displayed an enormous difference in metres gained, not through the rucks and mauls, but through the middle of the field.
This would be less of an issue if we were able to follow suit.
The ability of the All Blacks to make easy metres is well documented, but our centre combination of Berrick Barnes and Rob Horne had no physical answers in attack to Ma’a Nonu and Sony Bill Williams.
I still think that Barnes at 12 has merit. I think he is defensively sound and is a good foil to Coopers unpredictability. Given time this could prove to be quite a solid combination.
It’s when we get to 13 that things start to get awry.
I’m not going to sit here and knock Horne. He is a very good player but I think if anything he is struggling with Pocock-itis – that is he has bulked up more than he needs to.
When he burst onto the Waratahs scene as a very young kid he was blistering in attack. His acceleration was phenomenal and his strength in the tackle was superb. Since then he has become a far bigger unit, subsequently his center of gravity and speed seems to have been seriously affected.
Perhaps he can learn to work with his frame better but at the moment he’s not busting tackles like he used to and this is something he must work on and people need to help him.
If you look at our best 13′s they have been instrumental to our success. Sterling Mortlock, Dan Herbert, Jason Little to name a few in the modern era. They were strong, fast and allowed the rest of the team to work off a good platform moving forward.
Mike Tindall did the same for England, Tana Umaga for New Zealand, Brian O’Driscoll for Ireland. Every good international team has a centre in this mold.
I remember when I was playing fantasy Super 14 (I think it was) and I had picked Digby Ioane as one of my outside backs, however that year he actually spent most of the time in outside centre for the Reds.
Every single week, almost without fail, he would pick up the most points because of his ridiculous metres gained. He set up the Reds attacking phases with his awesome speed and the ability to step without losing that speed. He saw the ball more and the team benefited.
The Wallabies need this right now more than ever. They need someone who is going to get past the advantage line so the likes of Quade Cooper and Kurtley Beale can do some damage with a broken field with forward runners throughout it. This is, I believe, playing to our strengths.
I know many people will say that Digby can’t or won’t pass the ball and maybe they’re right. But this doesn’t concern me. We have plenty of people who can pass and pass well. I want Digby to pin his ears back and do what he does best – run at full tilt, all the time. You know he will. If he is making yards like he always does I don’t care if he never passes the ball again.
Kiwis are regularly saying that the two people who would have a crack at making the All Black team are Will Genia and Ioane. Genia sees the ball plenty and Ioane needs to see it more. Let the people inside and outside of him do the pretty stuff.
We need a 13 who defences offset their positioning for. At the moment they are just waiting on their toes for the collision. And colliding successfully they are. Pick Digby Ioane at number 13.
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September 1st 2012 @ 3:39am
bluerose said | September 1st 2012 @ 3:39am | Report comment
the problem with the outside center is the defensive responsibilities, its the hardest position to defend and its not about the toughest or strongest tackler but the smartest defender, i wont doubt Ioane’s ability to hit hard but i will question his ability to read the play before it ever happened and making those crucial decisions.
September 1st 2012 @ 6:47am
Jay said | September 1st 2012 @ 6:47am | Report comment
Digby still wouldn’t get the ball, Barnes can’t help but kick the stitching loose every time the ball comes his way.
The wallabies only ever get the ball to first or second receiver before it gets either kicked or taken to ground which is why digby has been so quiet lately.. The wallabies need to set their back line up quicker at the break down and start spinning the ball wide.
September 1st 2012 @ 7:04am
Justin2 said | September 1st 2012 @ 7:04am | Report comment
Throw a guy who excels at one position and is average in another and lacking the fundamentals to play 13? No thanks. Plenty of options better than Digby.
September 1st 2012 @ 7:24am
Albo said | September 1st 2012 @ 7:24am | Report comment
Diggers has played a lot of 13. When you talk about fundamentals I don’t see what all our other options have?
The fact is we don’t have anyone who has all the skills for 13. All lack something. Ioane can at least break the advantage line or draw defenders in. No one in our midfield is drawing in anyone other than one man at a time.
September 1st 2012 @ 12:30pm
Mantis said | September 1st 2012 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
Diggers is arguably our best attacking weapon. He doesnt get enough ball at the wing because Barnes either kicks it or dishes it Horne to hit up. Hes gotta get his hands on the ball more. Why not try him out at 13, he’d have to be better then Horne.
September 1st 2012 @ 8:26pm
Justin2 said | September 1st 2012 @ 8:26pm | Report comment
Digby has played a lot of 13 when exactly?
September 2nd 2012 @ 7:29am
Albo said | September 2nd 2012 @ 7:29am | Report comment
He played his entire 2009 season at 13 for reds and then switched back and forth in 2010.
September 2nd 2012 @ 12:32pm
Justin2 said | September 2nd 2012 @ 12:32pm | Report comment
He is 27 years of age, so a season and a bit is not a large chunk of his career. He doesn’t have the skills and you will lose his work rate and surprise element from the wing. It’s robbing Peter to pay Paul and I think we would be worse off.
September 2nd 2012 @ 3:30pm
mr spartan said | September 2nd 2012 @ 3:30pm | Report comment
Digby has played 13 all his life from Endevour hills rugby club, Melbourne storm juniors, St Joseph’s brisbane and OZ school boys under 18 and 21′s!!!!! Until he played super rugby where they transformed him into a winger!
September 2nd 2012 @ 6:27am
soapit said | September 2nd 2012 @ 6:27am | Report comment
in the past i havent been a fan of him at 13 because he cant pass but neither does horne and he at least ticks all the other boxes so we could do worse than stick him there.
would still like oconnor to be given a run there though.
oh and will greenwood was 13 in that brief period where england played well. tndall was at 12 in tandem with catt.
September 1st 2012 @ 3:59pm
Kuruki said | September 1st 2012 @ 3:59pm | Report comment
Digby has been a waste of talent on the wing. He is doing nothing and when he does carry it is in traffic anyway. How many tries has he scored lately? I can’t remember seeing many to be honest. He needs to be used as often as possible. Ioane on the wing is making life easier for your opposition.
September 1st 2012 @ 8:04pm
Campbell Watts said | September 1st 2012 @ 8:04pm | Report comment
Digby could always come looking for more work! He doesn’t and thats his own fault.
He’s not up to the defensive game required to play centre and he struggles with his handling on the wing – let alone a postion that also requires distribution!
He’s a great player – you want to involve him more? Simple – structure your plays arond bringing him into the action more! Thats Dean’s fault that this has not been implemented already!
As a rabid AB’s fan Digby is the only WB who might make my AB selection – the fact that the WB’s don’t utilise his great skills set to it’s fullest is a terrible indictment on Dean’s poor use of the players he has at his disposal.
September 2nd 2012 @ 12:34pm
Justin2 said | September 2nd 2012 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
Not sure what either of you are on about regarding work rate, his work rate is outstanding in a team that doesn’t play expansively.
September 1st 2012 @ 7:08am
winston said | September 1st 2012 @ 7:08am | Report comment
nah put him in the forwards that’s where Aus are really lacking
actually……… make him coach
September 1st 2012 @ 8:08am
flying hori said | September 1st 2012 @ 8:08am | Report comment
He has,nt the nous and skills to be a centre, hes a winger through and through, i really think you Aussies overrate him, if he was that GOOD he would be scoring tries every game he plays, hes had opportunities BUT always takes the wrong options, likes to run with the ball in hand especially off the rucks and beats forwards in the process, when was the last time hes beaten his oppo. 1 on 1 and scored a TRY, like what Dagg does or Corey or as a matter of fact and outside ABs back. I would back Cummins as a centre but he has never been given the chance.
September 1st 2012 @ 1:58pm
redsnut said | September 1st 2012 @ 1:58pm | Report comment
FH
He mostly hasn’t scored a try because the other backs have crabbed across the pitch, so, when he gets the ball it is so crowded with the opposition’s defence he can’t get through.
Plus, when his team-mates have passed the ball on, they just stop and wait for something to happen instead of getting up in support.
September 2nd 2012 @ 6:29am
soapit said | September 2nd 2012 @ 6:29am | Report comment
kind of shows how frustrated he is when he is resorting to getting into the pick and drives to get some ball.
and to think someone else was saying he should go looking for work.
September 1st 2012 @ 9:57am
AJH said | September 1st 2012 @ 9:57am | Report comment
I am with Albo on this. He actually played pretty well for the Reds at 13 and was putting pressure on the incumbent at the time Mortlock. I actually think he played a test or 2 at 13 and went well. I think he would be dynamic with Tapaui at 12. We could ten accommodate Shipperley on the wing.
As for players bulking up – Australia has a probl of over bulking guys with great pace they become slower or injury prone eg. Tune
September 1st 2012 @ 1:46pm
Albo said | September 1st 2012 @ 1:46pm | Report comment
I watched him play at Croke Park a few years ago when we drew with the Irish. He was very damaging the entire game until he picked up a shoulder injury and was forced to play at lower intensity.
September 1st 2012 @ 12:03pm
Thomas said | September 1st 2012 @ 12:03pm | Report comment
He played at outside centre for the majority of the 09 spring tour and I thought the backline excelled then.
September 1st 2012 @ 12:06pm
PaulT said | September 1st 2012 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
Albo the number 13 is the most diffucult position in the back line. Takes a long time for a player to develop the tactical skill set to make consistently good decisions. A good 13 does a massive amount of off ball work. For me AAC is the best 13 is Australia by some distance. He has good skills on both attack and defence and makes very few mistakes.
It must be frustrating for AAC because Robbie uses him as a fireman. He is put into all the hot spots. The curse of a multi skilled player.
Digby has not displayed the same tactical nous for 13. Over time he might develop into a good 12. For me the next best 13 is Cummins.
September 1st 2012 @ 1:44pm
Albo said | September 1st 2012 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
I totally agree on the AAC front. I’ve always thought highly of him as a player and wouldn’t mind seeing him back at 13 if that was the decision.
I do think thought that he has lost a lot of his tackle breaking ability that he had in spades a little while ago. He runs great lines but I don’t know how much better he would fare… although as I said I wouldn’t mind seeing him back there again.
I’ve been thinking about this ‘tactical nous’ of a 13 that people have been saying and while I see the point I don’t necessarily agree. I think if you have a defensive 5/8 and IC then yes, your 13 needs to be pretty clever However when both your 5/8 and IC are potential playmakers, not to mention the fullback and wing (if JOC returns) then I think your job is to run the appropriate lines, break and make the tackles. Considering the number of tacticians we have in the current backline, I think that there is room for a solid, hard running, inside line back like Digby. I don’t particularly see Cummins as having tactical nous, I see him as being able to do the same things Digby does but without the explosive pace.
September 2nd 2012 @ 6:33am
soapit said | September 2nd 2012 @ 6:33am | Report comment
it is a bit of a myth. AAC hadnt spent much time there before doing it for the wallbies and is considered by some to be our best 13 by some margin.
the myth comes largely from when they stuck tahu there and he had no idea but he also had little background in rugby. so it probably is the hardest position to defend but not that hard to pick up if youve got the rugby brain.
September 1st 2012 @ 2:03pm
redsnut said | September 1st 2012 @ 2:03pm | Report comment
AAC is as bad as Horne for not passing the ball regardless of where he plays.
I don’t think we have had as good a 12/13 combination since Horan and Little.
September 1st 2012 @ 2:09pm
Albo said | September 1st 2012 @ 2:09pm | Report comment
Agreed. Then again that’s a pretty high standard as I don’t think many have had as good a combination.
Oh the good old days when centres picked themselves.
September 1st 2012 @ 4:42pm
Invictus said | September 1st 2012 @ 4:42pm | Report comment
Horan and Herbert weren’t too bad either….
September 1st 2012 @ 4:45pm
Invictus said | September 1st 2012 @ 4:45pm | Report comment
Leave Ioane where he is and find a centre pairing that is able to deliver him good ball and space to use it in. At the moment he is getting the ball while jammed up against the sideline with three defenders in front of him. There aren’t too many wingers in the world who can make much out of that.