AFL ladder: Collingwood ‘lucky’ to have double-chance says study
Following the AFL home-and-away season, a new study says the final ladder could be improved to ‘truly’ reflect the ranking of the overall performance of the 18 teams.
A study by a La Trobe University sports economist uses complex econometric modelling and regression techniques to estimate an ‘optimal’ bonus points system – determined from data on all AFL matches from the 1997-2008 seasons – similar to those used in Super Rugby.
It is claimed that this system is better at revealing strong teams in the AFL than the current system, which does not award bonus points.
The research – by Dr Liam Lenten from La Trobe’s School of Economics, and co-author Dr Niven Winchester at the esteemed Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the US – builds on Dr Winchester’s previous analysis on the Super Rugby system.
The authors’ results indicate a preferred allocation of four league points for a win, three points for a draw, two points for winning by 27 or more and two points for losing by 26 or less.
However, they state that the partition could instead be altered to 24 points (i.e. four goals) to make it more interpretable to fans, and that a goal bonus (similar to a try bonus in Rugby) for scoring (for example) 20 goals, could also be included.
The 2012 ladder under a bonus point system in reported below. Dr Lenten points out that Collingwood would have finished 7th instead of 4th in 2012, giving them an elimination final against North Melbourne, and handing Geelong the double-chance and a qualifying final against Hawthorn this coming weekend.
Dr Lenten says the inclusion of bonuses may also maintain spectator interest in matches where an obvious winner emerges prior to match completion.
It could also prevent dominant teams taking their foot off the pedal after establishing a significant lead.
For these reasons, Dr Lenten claims that the AFL Commission should consider amending the current allocation of league points.
The authors of the study acknowledge that introducing bonuses to AFL standings may cause controversy as a team with less wins could (as in Super Rugby) conceivably qualify for the finals at the expense of a team with more wins, creating fan resistance to the idea.
However, they point out that many other sports already use popular ‘bonus point’ systems (if not by name), such as those in Super Rugby, as mentioned, as well as ice hockey and others
Also, according to Dr Winchester, parallels can be drawn to the Duckworth-Lewis revised-target rule used in cricket, “…which was met initially with much scepticism but is now widely accepted”.
Alternative 2012 AFL Ladder under Inclusion of Bonus Points
| Actual | With BP | Team |
Win |
Draw |
MarginBonuses |
% |
Comp Pnts |
|
1 |
1 |
Hawthorn |
17 |
0 |
17 |
154.6 |
102 |
|
2 |
2 |
Adelaide |
17 |
0 |
13 |
132.5 |
94 |
|
3 |
3 |
Sydney |
16 |
0 |
14 |
140.6 |
92 |
|
6 |
4 |
Geelong |
15 |
0 |
14 |
117.1 |
88 |
|
5 |
5 |
West Coast |
15 |
0 |
12 |
124.2 |
84 |
|
8 |
6 |
North Melbourne |
14 |
0 |
14 |
112.5 |
84 |
|
4 |
7 |
Collingwood |
16 |
0 |
9 |
116.5 |
82 |
|
7 |
8 |
Fremantle |
14 |
0 |
12 |
115.7 |
80 |
|
12 |
9 |
Richmond |
10 |
1 |
17 |
111.6 |
77 |
|
9 |
10 |
St.Kilda |
12 |
0 |
12 |
123.3 |
72 |
|
10 |
11 |
Carlton |
11 |
0 |
13 |
108.0 |
70 |
|
11 |
12 |
Essendon |
11 |
0 |
11 |
100.1 |
66 |
|
13 |
13 |
Brisbane |
10 |
0 |
8 |
91.0 |
56 |
|
14 |
14 |
Port Adelaide |
5 |
1 |
8 |
78.9 |
39 |
|
15 |
15 |
Western Bulldogs |
5 |
0 |
7 |
67.0 |
34 |
|
16 |
16 |
Melbourne |
4 |
0 |
6 |
67.5 |
28 |
|
17 |
17 |
Gold Coast |
3 |
0 |
6 |
60.8 |
24 |
|
18 |
18 |
GWS |
2 |
0 |
4 |
46.2 |
16 |
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September 3rd 2012 @ 2:53pm
andyincanberra said | September 3rd 2012 @ 2:53pm | Report comment
I disagree that this would create more interest amongst fans. This year, the composition of the top 8 was far from predictable until the conclusion of the last round. I would also never support a system in which a team with less wins could potentially finish higher than a team with more wins.
September 3rd 2012 @ 3:16pm
Pablo said | September 3rd 2012 @ 3:16pm | Report comment
Obviously the study wasn’t deep enough to show that Collingwood played the bottom 7 sides only once, unlike other sides higher up on the ladder.
September 3rd 2012 @ 3:27pm
phil said | September 3rd 2012 @ 3:27pm | Report comment
It must be accurate because it has Richmond at ninth!
September 4th 2012 @ 3:14pm
SurlyPie said | September 4th 2012 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
Ha! Love it. That was my first reaction too! Good ol’ Ninthmond eh…..
On a more serious note, this proposal is silly and only exacerbates the unfairness of the draw.
September 5th 2012 @ 7:19am
phil said | September 5th 2012 @ 7:19am | Report comment
If you want a fair draw, how about 4 points if you win against a team that you meet once in the season and 2 points per win against a team that you meet twice. And I don’t have a degree in anything.
October 26th 2012 @ 5:48pm
Kim Crawford said | October 26th 2012 @ 5:48pm | Report comment
I have already sent this idea to the AFL and they have ignored it. It is so obvious it is a wonder they cannot think of these things themselves. I had an alternative ladder running this year that awarded 2 points for a win, 1 for a draw and 0 for a loss. Teams were then awarded a bonus point for every 25 points they scored in a game. The aim of this was to combat coaches who instruct players to adopt a defensive game plan that is boring to watch and does nothing for the game. It rewards those teams that play attacking football. At the end of the season I made the adjustment to counter the uneven draw, as suggested by Phil. The result are not disimilar to the ladder the academics have come up with. I will try and post it at some stage.
September 3rd 2012 @ 3:40pm
Gezza said | September 3rd 2012 @ 3:40pm | Report comment
OK – Richmond finish 9th – the system is perfect!
September 3rd 2012 @ 3:49pm
Ian Whitchurch said | September 3rd 2012 @ 3:49pm | Report comment
I call shenanigans ! They must have gone ‘Right, Richmond must finish ninth. Lets build a model that enables that’.
September 3rd 2012 @ 4:18pm
Rich_daddy said | September 3rd 2012 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
So glad Latrobe has got its priorities right. Great use of taxpayers money.
I would say it largely reflects the “real” fairly closely. Must have been a slow day in academia land….
September 3rd 2012 @ 7:54pm
brendan said | September 3rd 2012 @ 7:54pm | Report comment
Amazing even esteemed mathematicians have Richmond ninth.
September 3rd 2012 @ 8:57pm
Storybridge said | September 3rd 2012 @ 8:57pm | Report comment
What a non-story. There already is an incentive to score more in a game – percentage. Furthermore, what if the score is closer than it should be due to appalling weather conditions?
AFL football should never ever become like rugby union.
September 3rd 2012 @ 9:23pm
Brewski said | September 3rd 2012 @ 9:23pm | Report comment
Don’t tell Ross Lyon, he likes the old rugby roilling maul, however of late Freo have been OK, and i give them a real chance against Geelong.
They are playing some good open footy.
September 3rd 2012 @ 11:08pm
Chris said | September 3rd 2012 @ 11:08pm | Report comment
AFL doesn’t want Collingwood disadvantaged in anyway. Look at the likely outcome for round 2 of the finals: Collingwood v WCE at the MCG.
Two days extra rest and no travel for Collingwood due to the way the AFL has set up finals week 1.
September 4th 2012 @ 6:09am
AndyMack said | September 4th 2012 @ 6:09am | Report comment
what a joke. u trying to say the afl manufactured all the results all year, just to get collingwood to get a home final in week 2??
1 v 4 is the usual fri night game isnt it?? They even playing 1 v 4 in the NRL finals on the friday night.
Your hatred is making you see things that are not there.
September 4th 2012 @ 9:46am
langou said | September 4th 2012 @ 9:46am | Report comment
My guess is that Chris is an Eagles fan. That level of nonsense could only come from a West Coaster
September 4th 2012 @ 3:45pm
Chris said | September 4th 2012 @ 3:45pm | Report comment
Ok put it this way. If WCE came 4th and Coll 5th do you really think Haw would be playing WCE on Friday and Coll playing North on Sunday.
And then if Coll beat North in week 2 they would have to face up to Hawthorn or WCE with nearly two days less of a break and possibly travel to Perth as well.
Not on according to the AFL
My point exactly.
Also, why not let WCE play on Saturday. After all, your argument is who finishes on top should be advantaged. In this instance Geel and Freo did not finish above WCE but still they play a day earlier in week 1.
PS: I garuantee you I’m not a WCE fan I just hate how the AFL favours certain Melb teams
September 3rd 2012 @ 11:54pm
Nathan of Perth said | September 3rd 2012 @ 11:54pm | Report comment
Once again the bitter fruits of West Coast’s 2-pt loss to Brisbane are highlighted for me