Tebow puts a wildcat amongst the Jets pigeons
By Davidde Corran, 4 Sep 2012 Davidde Corran is a Roar Guru
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“We don’t need Tebow.” That was the now infamous tweet from New York Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie, as the AFC East outfit prepared to trade for then-Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow.
The final deal saw a handful of low draft picks heading each way. That wasn’t the story though.
What was really significant was the decision by the Jets to bring a player who, until Peyton Manning’s signing, was set to be the Broncos’ starting quarterback in 2012 in an offence that already included Mark Sanchez.
In fact 12 days before the Tebow trade, Sanchez had signed a three year contract extension, which included $20 million guaranteed.
Doubts might remain over Sanchez’s ability to elevate the Jets’ game, but Cromartie was right – they didn’t “need” the former Broncos sensation.
As it turns out, the Tebow move is part of an ambitious, but very high risk, plan from head coach Rex Ryan.
Sanchez will take most of the snaps and run the offence as per usual, with Tebow and his Wildcat package (where the ball is snapped directly to the running-back) to offer variety.
The Jets are looking for a surprise packet to stretch opposition defences.
Of course while Tebow’s Wildcat is meant to unsettle their opponents, the concern is the Jets might do just that to themselves.
Jets’ legend Joe Namath is possibly the Tebow move’s biggest critic.
“I’m just sorry that I can’t agree with this situation,” stated Namath on ESPN radio in New York earlier this year.
“I think it’s just a publicity stunt. I can’t go with it. I think it’s wrong. I don’t think they know what they’re doing over there.
“And I’m a Tim Tebow fan, but I’m a bigger Jet fan than I am a Tim Tebow fan.”
There is a legitimate concern here – in looking for an edge over playoff rivals, the Jets risk upsetting their entire offensive machine.
Yet I firmly believe they are right to try it.
American football is a specialist sport, where a flexible and variable offence will work if it’s well-rehearsed.
Having a specialist unit (or quarterback) to run a Wildcat package in hurry-up situations is a legitimate alternative to asking Sanchez to change his game midway through a quarter.
Having Tebow standing on the sidelines shouldn’t affect Sanchez either – enough pressure comes with being the Jets starting quarterback as is and Ryan has given Sanchez his full backing already.
For his part, Tebow isn’t concerned.
“No, it’s not difficult,” the 25-year-old said about his clearly defined smaller function.
“You just know your role and you try to do it the best you can. When you get opportunities, you make the most of them.”
It’s far from the first time a situation like this has happened around the NFL either.
There was a period when the Arizona Cardinals used Matt Leinart as a starting quarterback with Kurt Warner coming on in two-minute situations to play a no huddle system (though instructively, it was with Warner as a sole starter that the Cardinals made the Superbowl in the 2008 season).
If the Jets do employ the Sanchez and Tebow combination, it should work.
Though if it doesn’t, there could be a massive cleanout across the Jets organisation.
Rex Ryan is playing a high stakes game.
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September 4th 2012 @ 7:25am
mushi said | September 4th 2012 @ 7:25am | Report comment
The problem for the jets is that he actually isn’t good at being a running QB. His Total QBR rating, which includes running the ball and sacks, was fourth lowest in the league amongst QB’s with 250 plays or more.
The only reason it is worth a shot is that 5th worst in the league was Sanchez.
September 4th 2012 @ 7:50am
Eric George said | September 4th 2012 @ 7:50am | Report comment
mushi, that stat is probably dragged down by the fact that he is a very scratchy thrower of the ball. I’m not crazy about that QBR stat, although I’m not a huge Eli Manning fan I think it’s unfair to rank him 15th last year.
Tebow ran for 47.1 yards a game last season which placed him as the best rushing QB in the league. His yards per attempt were 5.4, which placed him on par with Newton, but well behind Vick who managed to grab 7.8 an attempt.
I find Tebow frustrating to watch because he seems to defy basic NFL logic, but the reality is I saw him make a look of pretty respectable defenders look foolish with his strength and agility.
September 4th 2012 @ 8:28am
mushi said | September 4th 2012 @ 8:28am | Report comment
Okay I’ve looked at the 2011 stats on ESPN and double checked them with the NFL.com and it has Newtown at tenth in the league YPA at 7.84 and Tebow at 28th with 6.38? They are about as on par as John Elway and David Carr
September 4th 2012 @ 9:19am
Eric George said | September 4th 2012 @ 9:19am | Report comment
To be clear, I’m talking about rushing stats here, purely in response to you saying he isn’t good as a running QB. Excuse the long link, but these are the stats I was looking at.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2011&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=RUSHING&conference=null&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS_PER_GAME_AVG
September 4th 2012 @ 9:33am
mushi said | September 4th 2012 @ 9:33am | Report comment
Okay sorry for the confusion
I still don’t see how pure rushing stats makes you a good “running QB” because your job isn’t just to run the football, that is running back’s job and as a running back he would be horrendously slow to the hole. A running QB is still required to throw the football as well to balance the offence, which Tebow did very poorly.
Saying he can he ran better than most QB’s is different to being a good running QB as he still needs to be a QB at some point.
September 4th 2012 @ 9:38am
Eric George said | September 4th 2012 @ 9:38am | Report comment
Fair enough, I don’t disagree with any of this. I simply misunderstood you’re initial statement as “Tebow isn’t effective at running”.
September 4th 2012 @ 9:44am
mushi said | September 4th 2012 @ 9:44am | Report comment
that’s cause you left the “QB” of the end
September 4th 2012 @ 8:36am
mushi said | September 4th 2012 @ 8:36am | Report comment
And yes his overall rating as a quarterback is brought down by the fact he’s is utterly horrendous at throwing it. That’s actually the point I was trying, but failed, to make: even though he was a very productive runner for QB it still doesn’t offset how horrendous he is as a passer.
Whilst I’m not enamoured to the point that I’d go this guy has a QBR 2 points higher than that guy he must be better, when you’ve got the 4th worst in the league it is pretty damming of your ability at that position. Eli gets the superbowl shine amplified by New York. He is a quality starter but in reality he is in that group of players that surround him on QBR.
I still do prefer it over the YPA as it over rates long bombers and disregards consistency. If you have a decent YPA (which tebow doesn’t) with a low completion percentage it means you will struggle to maintain drives. Tebow had the double whammy a low completion percentage a low YPA.
The only NFL logic he defied for me was that he was getting the credit for a defensive team’s 8 victories many of which came in coin toss games. As a broncos fan I’m elated we got anything for him.
If you’re going wildcat I’d think you need a better pure runner than a guy who is an okay back up running back and serviceable thrower of the long ball.
September 4th 2012 @ 9:23am
Eric George said | September 4th 2012 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Was there anyone as unstoppable as Tebow when running a goal line offense last year? You could maybe put a claim in for Cam Newton, but I honestly can’t remember that wildcat play failing much when they got inside 10 yards from the end zone.
September 4th 2012 @ 9:29am
josh said | September 4th 2012 @ 9:29am | Report comment
How’d he go in the Playoffs, against a proper team?
He’s a junktime QB. You can’t run fluke plays for an entire game.
September 4th 2012 @ 12:25pm
Ian Whitchurch said | September 4th 2012 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
To be fair, he had a very good game against Pittsburg. But he just isnt good enough to do that reliably.
September 4th 2012 @ 9:43am
mushi said | September 4th 2012 @ 9:43am | Report comment
Well he must have been the worst QB in the history of the game then from the 10 to the 20 then because denver was 26th in red zone effectiveness.
September 4th 2012 @ 9:49am
Eric George said | September 4th 2012 @ 9:49am | Report comment
As a Broncos fan, mushi, I’m assuming you watched the games (as I did). Are you honestly saying you weren’t confident when he lined up close to the goal, or going for a 2-point conversion?
September 4th 2012 @ 8:46am
Chop said | September 4th 2012 @ 8:46am | Report comment
Tebow is another actor in the drama that is the Jets, they were terrible last year and won’t improve this year.
After last year Tebow showed while he wasn’t the best QB he is absolutely a leader and people are drawn to him. A lot of people are hating on him but it’s not his fault that he dragged Denver into the finals last year and management moved him on.
Even for Peyton Manning it’s a big call to get rid of Tebow from Denver given his success last year.
September 4th 2012 @ 9:04am
Frank The Tank said | September 4th 2012 @ 9:04am | Report comment
Please John Elway was never sold on that hack. If the bloke concentrated more on his passing and less on being the biggest and fastest QB in the game he’d probably be a little better than he is.
The American public love his Christianity and his never say die attitude. They turned a blind eye to the fact that when he was beaten he was really beaten. The teams he beat in his strectch to the playoffs were horrible, and if you want to fire back with the Steelers, than go ahead, Big Ben was on one leg and should never had played, they also had about 6 other guys out from their offensive line.
Tebow is a hack, he was a great college player but has struggled to bring his game to the NFL, the Jets are weaker than the Broncos and he will be found out so badly this year. If the wildcat option is so fantastic why didn’t Denver keep him, why didn’t they keep him to maybe take some pressure of Manning whos coming back from neck surgery? BECAUSE HE’S NO GOOD, HE’S NOTHING BUT A CIRCUS.
September 4th 2012 @ 9:32am
Eric George said | September 4th 2012 @ 9:32am | Report comment
No need to get carried away FTT. Tebow did beat up on some weak teams last year, but he also beat some pretty solid defensive units: the Jets, the Bears, and the Steelers were all pretty elite defensive units last year. Tebow isn’t incredible, but he did a pretty decent job of protecting the ball and allowing the defensive and special teams components of his teams to keep the Broncos in it.
September 4th 2012 @ 10:08am
Frank The Tank said | September 4th 2012 @ 10:08am | Report comment
Eric as a Broncos fan you should be celebrating this Muppet has gone. I’m not a Broncos fan but you really shouldn’t be defending this bloke. He was not very good, the stats don’t lie in this game. It was one of the weakest years of NFL due to the lockout, let’s see how he goes this year. Who will he be playing for next year?
September 4th 2012 @ 10:19am
Kevin said | September 4th 2012 @ 10:19am | Report comment
The jets are a circus and always will be a circus bi polar and all the rest
All the talk around NY is how bad tebow is at throwing, he couldn’t hit the side of a barn
I for one think that the media have been so hard on Sanchez / Ryan and co, these are the same guys that got them to two championship games, and beat Peyton and Brady in consequetive weeks ( away) when those guys were hotter than hot , and then got stitched up against the steelers
I think the knives have been out since last years capitulation against Miami, that was sooooooooo bad, and unacceptable , but to throw the baby out woth the bath water is crazy….
September 4th 2012 @ 10:24am
Ian Whitchurch said | September 4th 2012 @ 10:24am | Report comment
Tim Tebow – 6.4 yards per attempt. 10.9% sack percentage. 47% accuracy.
Yup, he got 660 yeards as a runner on 122 attempts … involving 14 fumbles !
5 of his wins last year had his defence hold the opposition to 15 points or less.
He’s an option quarterback, all he has is a long ball against defneders in single man coverage, and he cant keep hold of the ball.
September 4th 2012 @ 10:41am
Kevin said | September 4th 2012 @ 10:41am | Report comment
Ian well said, throwing long to one on ones your always a chance ,and for mine says more about the WR…
Last play of the playoff game vs steelers perfect example
September 4th 2012 @ 12:06pm
crip said | September 4th 2012 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
Good read Davidde and I to “firmly believe they are right to try it”.
The beauty of football is that it is not as predictable as stats men and media analysts make out. I think that it’s awesome that the Jets taking are trying something different offensively rather than banking their whole season on one players ability to throw the ball (who decided that that is the only way to play football?).
September 4th 2012 @ 12:43pm
falcore said | September 4th 2012 @ 12:43pm | Report comment
88 years of cut-throat evolution in professional competion I think decided that that was the most efficient, consistent way to play. And not all teams play that way, but do you think it’s a fluke that the teams with elite passing QB’s and recieving corps are the most successfull at pro level? “One player’s ability to throw the ball” is also dimishing the role of the rest of the team a bit perhaps
NFL isn’t about having a crack at something new. Most coaching risks that are taken at NFL level are a flow on effect from the NCAA system which is far more forgiving on tactical tomfoolery. With that said, I love seeing something different work as much as the next guy, so I hope the Jets can implement this Wildcat successfully – it’s all a mystery so far, been kept under wraps in the pre-season, to the point of not even running it in open practice.
It’s hard to understand the Jet’s move on this one, other than the obvious pr bonus. People will definitely turn up to see if Tebow can get on the field. But it’s the NFL, people were gonna turn up anyway. There’s been enough pressure on Sanchez over the last 12 months to think they may be setting up to ditch him, but other than his rabid fans, not many see Tebow as a long term solution at QB.
On the Steelers game, if I recall, there were at least 2 defensive mis-reads that hurt pittsburgh – one of my fav guys Polamalu copped a pasting in the press over one which resulted in points, which I thought was harsh. Polamalu requires a solid secondary around him so he’s free to play a bit shallower..
Bottom line, and this is just an idiot’s opinion, is that if Tebow didn’t constantly bang on about Jesus and stick his nose into politics, this conversation wouldn’t happen. But he is a good athlete, and he’s makin a motza.
September 4th 2012 @ 5:24pm
crip said | September 4th 2012 @ 5:24pm | Report comment
Falcore, why is it “hard to understand the Jet’s move on this one”?. Please explain how the Jets plan is tactical tomfoolery.
Sanchez is the starting QB and Tebow is there to give the offence more options. Options that were good enough to get a team with good defence into the playoffs? Simple.
September 5th 2012 @ 12:48am
falcore said | September 5th 2012 @ 12:48am | Report comment
I say tactical tomfoolerywith light-hearted respect. I was referring to stunt plays. You asked who decided a passing QB and spread offense was the best way to play, I was simply having a crack at answering why it’s the prevalent system in the NFL. By and large, stunts are only work when a D isn’t expecting it. If you’re bringin on a specialist QB to run the occasional wildcat or stunt, defenses will adust accordingly right?
It’s hard to understand the Jets move because they had just re-signed Sanchez, and Rex Ryan had been till that point talking him up for the past few years. Stashing Tebow in the back-up spot, given his profile and the fan-power he commands puts a lof a lot of pressure on Sanchez when he probably doesn’t need it.
I’m not trying to be negative. I think if the Jets do well and Tebow has an impact itll be a great shot in the arm after last season. A far more interesting story that’s overshadowed by this is Derelle Revis playing both ways!
September 4th 2012 @ 5:04pm
Jared said | September 4th 2012 @ 5:04pm | Report comment
The reason that Tim Tebow was able to win games last season was due to the predictability of NFL defences in the 4th quarter when their team has a lead. Tebow was able to flourish in the fourth quarter when behind as defences started playing a prevent defence with deep safeties and they stopped sending blitz packages at him. When no pressure is applied to Tebow he can throw well enough or he can take off on a run if all the secondary drop deep. If teams had continued to harass him through the final quarter I feel the results would have been much different.
September 4th 2012 @ 5:50pm
TC said | September 4th 2012 @ 5:50pm | Report comment
On a slightly different note, both NFL and AFL fans might be interested in the progress of former Lion/Power footballer, Scott Harding, who plays with the Uni of Hawaii as a wide receiver. He was intereviewed today on SEN radio:
http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio/University-of-Hawaii-wide-receiver-Scott-Harding/5786
He scored a touchdown against USC in front of 93,600 fans.
He is also currently doubling as a punt returner, and temporarily filling in as the punter, which is the position ex-AFL players normally fill in the NFL.
Interesting trivia re Scott Harding, his sister is Karmichael Hunt’s partner.
TC
September 4th 2012 @ 11:03pm
Adam_Vaughan said | September 4th 2012 @ 11:03pm | Report comment
Tebow goes very well considering he’s a TE playing in the QB position…