Players to watch for in the NRL finals
By Tim Prentice, 7 Sep 2012
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Mercurial Billy Slater for the Melbourne Storm in the NRL (Image: AAP)
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Finals football is a brand new season for all involved. It’s a time for tactics and team excellence; a period of courage and resilience for those carrying injuries at the back end of a long domestic competition.
And it’s a stage for the game’s champions to strut their stuff.
The finals also doubles as a theatre for the nervous and the nerveless.
Who can survive and ultimately thrive in such rarified air?
Each of the eight finalists have their go-to men such as Cooper Cronk, Glenn Stewart, Jonathan Thurston, Greg Inglis and Ben Barba.
The coaches expect their big names to perform, but I believe there are specific players they are sweating on to produce their best football and ignite their teams’ finals fires.
Here is my list of ‘Little Lucifers’ and I wonder if it is similar to yours:
TONY WILLIAMS (Manly):
This giant of a man has been gradually powering back to his rampaging best form after suspension. If T-Rex pushes the go-button when he is on the field tonight, heaven help any Bulldogs who cross his path. Interestingly, he will be playing with these guys and coach Des Hasler next season – what better time than to leave a brilliant impression?
JOSH REYNOLDS (Canterbury)
A richly talented young five-eighth with the skills to develop into one of rugby league’s finest. Has incredible strength and self-belief when tackling and running the ball but he is experiencing finals footy for the first time. If he can maintain the rage, the Dogs might be heading for another premiership.
WADE GRAHAM (Cronulla)
Outstanding utility man who has played just one game since Round 20 due to a sternum injury. He returned in Round 23 against Newcastle but aggravated the injury and hasn’t featured in the top grade since. Graham has declared he is fit to play and has been named on an extended bench. A player with a definite X-factor in attack and defence.
JOSH McCRONE (Canberra)
A vastly improved performer for the Raiders who provides much of their attacking spark. Needs to take the line on as often as possible and confound the defence his strength, speed and deft passes.
ISAAC LUKE (Souths)
If Souths are going to record their first-ever win in Melbourne in 10 starts, they will need to seize control of the mid-field. This is where Luke is an attacking spearhead, puncturing the line repeatedly with his dummy half darts. If he can get the big Melbourne forwards back-pedalling, Souths have enough skill and point-scoring ability to dictate terms.
BILLY SLATER (Melbourne)
Returning from injury, Slater has shown only glimpses of his sizzling best form and has not picked up a best player award for some time. However, if he aims up in this one, the Storm’s firepower will be very hard to suppress no matter how well the Rabbitohs defend.
PETER WALLACE (Brisbane)
His organisational skills and kicking game will need to be at an all-time high for the Broncos to stay alive in the 2012 competition. Brisbane needs to counteract the Thurston/Bowen factor and Walsh can go a long way to doing so with his kicks and selective passing.
MICHAEL MORGAN (North Queensland)
Experiencing his first finals game but fortunate that it is at home in front of the Townsville faithful. The former Australian schoolboy rep from Toowoomba has been in fantastic form in recent weeks, feeding his runners superbly and doing what is needed to keep the Cowboys on the rampage.

September 7th 2012 @ 9:59am
Jimbo Jones said | September 7th 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
Peter Walsh might do better for Brisbane than Wallace would…
September 7th 2012 @ 10:09am
planko said | September 7th 2012 @ 10:09am | Report comment
Mate you left out DCE or even FORAN ? Gees man when are norths coming back big fella I still think there best hope is via Tweed Heads when the GC go belly up again.
September 7th 2012 @ 12:01pm
NF said | September 7th 2012 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
Manly fan such as yourself Planko shouldn’t deathride other clubs because despite all your success you drew mediocre crowds & were in financial peril a while back. Considering Manly was close to death’s door despite being premiers is quite disturbing.
September 7th 2012 @ 12:28pm
planko said | September 7th 2012 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
LOL they death ride themselves. I am not deathriding I hope they thrive but am not sure if current set up is enough. Every club in Sydney has serious backing of a League’s Club except Manly. The quicker Manly League’s can turn itself around and start buying some shares in the FOOTBALL team again the better. Then like the Raiders they should look at investing and getting non poker machine incomes.
September 7th 2012 @ 11:08am
Tim Prentice said | September 7th 2012 @ 11:08am | Report comment
Yep, Walsh was an old Magpie. Wallace a new-age Bronco. Thanks JJ.
September 7th 2012 @ 12:19pm
Dan said | September 7th 2012 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
Nice article Tim
My list of influential players would be
James Graham
Kieran Foran
Billy slater
Sam burgess
John thurston
Andrew mcullough
Josh mcrone
Jeff robson
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September 11th 2012 @ 3:00pm
Tim Prentice said | September 11th 2012 @ 3:00pm | Report comment
Thanks Dan. In hindsight, your selections and mine were VERY influential.
September 7th 2012 @ 12:36pm
NF said | September 7th 2012 @ 12:36pm | Report comment
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/despite-its-flaws-still-the-greatest-game-of-all-20120906-25h5w.html#ixzz25jgAMNAc
Former Bears president had this to say about RL your thoughts Tim since you’re a Bears supporter.
September 7th 2012 @ 2:06pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 7th 2012 @ 2:06pm | Report comment
“AFL is now a dominant player in all Australian capital cities, including the rugby league citadels of Sydney and Brisbane.”
The Lions lose millions of dollars each year. Most of their fanbase is made up of ex-pat Victorians. The team has to merge with the Fitzoy Lions to stay in the AFL. I’d hardly call them a success.
Few born-and-bred Queenslanders could give a stuff about AFL. The only people I’ve ever known to play the game in QLD were originally from the southern states. I cannot think of one born and bred Queenslander that I’ve known who has played the game. When the school I went to taught us the game in PE we all laughed. We cared about it as much as we cared about netball.
September 7th 2012 @ 3:38pm
Matt_S said | September 7th 2012 @ 3:38pm | Report comment
After reading that blurb from Hill, now I can see why North Sydney went belly up, with him in charge. Bears supporters should go thru his reign with a fine tooth comb and see if his tenure led to a deliberate demise of the rugby league in that part of the North Shore. His speech was crap with mistruths and showed little respect for the sport he supposedly followed. Sounds like that other goose, Mike Gibson.
September 7th 2012 @ 7:27pm
Tim Prentice said | September 7th 2012 @ 7:27pm | Report comment
D.Hill was not in charge when the Bears ran aground.
September 7th 2012 @ 3:48pm
Australian Rules said | September 7th 2012 @ 3:48pm | Report comment
The same old argument from Qgirl that everyone in Queensland hates Australian Footy.
With respect to the Lions, here’s the real story…
In 2011 the Lions had a turnover of $42M, comfortably the biggest of any Queensland sporting club.
Did the Lions make a “loss” in 2011? Well, they made a trading profit of $500k but had about $1.8M depreciation of the $42M revenue. Still, that was largely due to the club paying off its social club and spending up in other investment areas.
In terms of crowds and members, after a few years being cellar-dwellers, crowds and memberships have contracted to a respectable 20k in both categories.
When they were dominating 10 years ago, their crowds and memberships dwarfed the Broncos.
This is not code-war nonsense… merely the facts.
When the anti-AFLers like Qgirl seek to print rubbish, I’ll happily set the record straight.
September 7th 2012 @ 4:13pm
Matt_S said | September 7th 2012 @ 4:13pm | Report comment
10 years ago Broncos were still suffering from a thing called SUPER LEAGUE. An era which the Lions coincidentally had their great period. Effects of Super League ended, LIONS, back where they are….behind the Broncs, and now the Reds.
p.s AR, stick to your AFL threads, your knowledge of sports particularly RL is pretty bad and biased..
September 7th 2012 @ 5:38pm
Brewski said | September 7th 2012 @ 5:38pm | Report comment
QGirl is cute, stop baffling him with facts, and FWIW he will say exactly the same thing again next time.
50 QLDers on AFL lists, and more QLDers are on the the GCS list than the Titans…..now that is telling, although in the interest of balance the GCS have a bigger list.
September 9th 2012 @ 11:41pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 9th 2012 @ 11:41pm | Report comment
“50 QLDers on AFL lists”
From Victorian families who migrated to Queensland.
Where do you think Michael Voss and Jason Akermanis were born?
Not Queensland!
It doesn’t take much to get a spot in the AFL. A broken down Canadian rugby player who was forced into retirement after breaking his back got a spot in the AFL. He never played the game before he moved to Australia, but he get into the top flight league pretty quickly. Amateurs from Ireland make it in the AFL all the time. There’s no much skill in Aussie rules, so it’s no wonder that players are able to make the transition to the game within a few months of taking it up. Of all the football codes in the world it is the least skillful one, bar none.
September 9th 2012 @ 11:29pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 9th 2012 @ 11:29pm | Report comment
The only thing to look at is the bottom line, which is all that matters. The Brisbane Lions Financial Review says it all:
“the loss for the year was $1,855,926 (2010: loss of $2,476,274).”
I’d like to point out that the Lions are getting a large chunk of their from the Lions @ Springwood Social club which is littered with pokies. Springwood, a suburb in north-eastern Logan, is the perfect place for for a social club, as Logan is considered the gambling capital of Queensland. The Lions’ revenue jumped from 30,694,874 to 42,297,354 aftertheir little social/gambling club at Springwood was opened to the public.
http://www.lions.com.au/Portals/0/lions_docs/00000%20LIONS%20Annual%20Report%20ART.pdf
“In terms of crowds and members, after a few years being cellar-dwellers, crowds and memberships have contracted to a respectable 20k in both categories.
When they were dominating 10 years ago, their crowds and memberships dwarfed the Broncos.”
Tell the full story pal.
The Suns came into the competition in 2011. The Lions membership base dropped by 8,222 from the previous year (29,014 in 2010 vs 20,792 in 2011). A huge drop. Many of the fans who cancelled their membership would be ex-pat Victorians living on the Gold Coast. They are now members of the Suns. There are heaps of old Victorians on the Gold Coast.
The current membershp tally for the Lions is 20,752. Around 7,000 to 10,000 of them are FItzroy suppoters based in Victoria. So about 10,000 to 13,000 are living in Queensland. The Lions have pet membership catergories…
September 7th 2012 @ 4:34pm
Redb said | September 7th 2012 @ 4:34pm | Report comment
“Most of their fanbase is made up of ex-pat Victorians”
How come RL has not been able to convert them? If its the greatest game of all…..
September 7th 2012 @ 4:54pm
clipper said | September 7th 2012 @ 4:54pm | Report comment
You’ve got to laugh at the scientific reasoning – saying that the people Qgirl knows that like AFL are from the southern states. My ‘scientific’ experience is about 10% of people I know interested in AFL in Sydney come from the southern states – but that is just personal experience. I like David Hills last statement ‘league is unlikely ever to be a global sport’ – no truer words said – and he’s a league man!
September 7th 2012 @ 5:28pm
NF said | September 7th 2012 @ 5:28pm | Report comment
clipper once again with a cheap shot on a league thread that’s all you contribute you troll. All you do is post is negative to rugby league and you still haven’t disclose what sports you support.
September 7th 2012 @ 6:36pm
clipper said | September 7th 2012 @ 6:36pm | Report comment
It was your link – that’s what David Hill said! Funny you never have a go at Qgirl and all their cheap shots at AFL.
September 7th 2012 @ 6:57pm
NF said | September 7th 2012 @ 6:57pm | Report comment
clipper I point you out because you being saying the same ole same ole negative posts about RL for a long time perhaps the moment you post on the Roar. I wasn’t around then on this site but I assume you being doing trolling league threads for a long time here and seems to get away with it all the time.
September 7th 2012 @ 6:02pm
Matt_S said | September 7th 2012 @ 6:02pm | Report comment
Excuse me but Hill is not a ‘league’man. Not involved in the game and when he was, he was brought in from the outside. Bears no longer in comp, so says alot for Mr Hill. His knowledge of league OS would be minimal. Union survives soley on money from its wealthy ‘benefactors’. The game doesn’t carry it. Look at Japan. Even with all that corporate backing, failure.. A world cup there is the last desperate straw.
September 9th 2012 @ 11:44pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 9th 2012 @ 11:44pm | Report comment
clipper,
100% of your posts are hateful, biased envy-based crap.
What does that say about you?
Science doesn’t lie.
September 11th 2012 @ 9:40am
Australian Rules said | September 11th 2012 @ 9:40am | Report comment
“Science doesn’t lie”…brilliant!
September 7th 2012 @ 4:23pm
Tim Prentice said | September 7th 2012 @ 4:23pm | Report comment
NF, I read David Hill’s thoughts and from a Rugby League perspective, I think he is pretty close to the money on most points.
He says the AFL is ahead of league with its expansion policy with good support generated “in all capital cities.”
Probably right, but I have written on this site before that the media in NSW and Qld are far more generous to all of the codes than their equivalents in so-called AFL states and territories.
I believe if league got a fair shake on TV, radio and in the press in Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth, Darwin and even Hobart, it would enjoy a much better profile.
The AFL get a pretty generous run in Sydney and Brisbane, even though the preferred games in these cities and surrounds is rugby league.
Mr Hill spoke of clubs suffering from poker machine tax etc and of course that is a huge problem they are currently working to solve.
There are other revenue streams to explore and many of the leading clubs are gradually finding new ways to attract the dollars.
And, NF, as for the Bears’ future?
Well, I have liked the black and red colours since I was a schoolboy. All I can see at this point is black.
The ARLC doesn’t seem keen to capture/recapture the many thousands of league fans on Sydney’s north shore and the Central Coast and with every month that passes, the brilliant groundwork by Greg Florimo & Co looks to amount to nothing.
John Singleton has bailed out. He knows there are too many brick walls to break down and too many dunderheads to convince that RL needs a team between Manly and Newcastle.
September 7th 2012 @ 4:50pm
Brewski said | September 7th 2012 @ 4:50pm | Report comment
I can’t belive you are serious, the Sydney media in particluar is so scared and paranoid about the AFL, a new ‘story’ comes out every week.
AFL tsunami -stealing our kids -Phil Gould
Fatty claims that the AFL is paying country schools not to support RL
Claims that Wagga council is dudding RL because of AFL
Canberra Raiders claiming GWS dudding ACT governemnet whilst doing the same thing.
Trying to steal Birchgrove Oval
Heres a few links.
Stephen Samuelson contributions.
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/…hinders-us-on-global-stage-20100626-zaqz.html
This one about the AFL mailout is quite funny
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/gwss-mail-dominance/story-e6frexnr-1226088450118
Brad Fitler tackles AFL’s Western invasion … below
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp…western-invasion/story-e6frexnr-1226091463226
Phil Gould has his say
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp…r-blacktown-snub/story-e6frexnr-1226389833545
Rebecca Wilson
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl-launches-a-premier-sting/story-e6freyar-1225690368650
More Wlson
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/fanatic-origins/story-e6freyar-1226085861080
Wilson
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp…ty-pecking-order/story-e6frexnr-1226133524388
Can’t forget Roy !!
•26.06.2012 – “Lonesome George meets his end – will GWS go the same way?”
•22.02.2012 – “Arts about face: heading to Hobart while AFL looks the other way”
•07.12.2011 – “Pokies reform and a tale of two cities”
•27.08.2011 – “AFL’s infiltration is heartbreaking, but have they left the fortress unguarded?”
•06.08.2011 – “Grassroots gains the best way to fight against AFL incursions”
•29.04.2011 – “Footy deal scores well for viewers and codes”
•01.04.2011 – “Networks thrust and feint to repel Demetriou’s cash grab”
•20.02.2011 – “Push into Sydney’s west could be ‘bridge too far’”
•19.02.2011 – “The AFL could lose this war in its own heartland”
•15.12.2010 – “Inaction speaks louder than words in AFL’s non-response to ACCC”
•25.10.2010 – “AFL may face rolling fixture”
•01.10.2010 – “NRL Races ahead in TV viewers stakes”
•22.09.2010 – “Tickets to the Gee a protected species”
•31.07.2010 – “AFL masters art of window dressing as NRL suffers for its transparency”
•24.05.2010 – “League officials angered by government favours for AFL”
•22.03.2010 – “Blacktown setback for AFL”
•20.03.2010 – “NRL struggling to secure home loan, despite code being on upswing”
•08.10.2009 – “It’s on: TV rights to sports in chaos as News signals an NRL offload”
•05.05.2009 – “League’s expansion plans are based on flawed TV revenue gains”
•02.05.2009 – “Figures don’t add up as Demetriou tries to grab bigger slice of pie”
September 7th 2012 @ 6:28pm
eagleJack said | September 7th 2012 @ 6:28pm | Report comment
Brewski the first step is admitting you have a problem……
September 7th 2012 @ 6:33pm
Brewski said | September 7th 2012 @ 6:33pm | Report comment
Roy, in particular should step forward …. i agree. LOL
September 7th 2012 @ 6:35pm
Tim Prentice said | September 7th 2012 @ 6:35pm | Report comment
Come on Brewski, stop wasting yours (and our) time.
So easy to drag out articles etc but the fact remains AFL gets a decent run on TV, radio and in the newspapers in Syd and Bris.
League hardly gets a mention in the biased states’ mass media outlets.
Too many closed minds mean that too many other minds will remain closed as well.
September 7th 2012 @ 6:56pm
Brewski said | September 7th 2012 @ 6:56pm | Report comment
Sorry Tim, but these articles prove to me where RL is at, it is truly reactionary and paranoid, perhaps this new deal $$$$$ will change things but i doubt it.
If you call this constant barrage of sly and not so sly digs, mistruths and misinformation a good run, then perhaps i am wrong.
September 7th 2012 @ 7:23pm
Tim Prentice said | September 7th 2012 @ 7:23pm | Report comment
To illustrate my point Brewski, get a copy of tomorrow’s Tele and tomorrow’s Herald Sun and check the respective space given to League in Melbourne and AFL in Sydney.
Also, if possible, listen to the hourly radio news in both cities (via the net).
Then, quite simply, I will rest my case.
September 7th 2012 @ 11:19pm
Brewski said | September 7th 2012 @ 11:19pm | Report comment
With all due respect Tim, my case is a lot more telling.
September 9th 2012 @ 11:19pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 9th 2012 @ 11:19pm | Report comment
How many AFL players has the ARLC/NRL tried to poach for publicity?
September 10th 2012 @ 7:50am
Brewski said | September 10th 2012 @ 7:50am | Report comment
Just the AFL 2nd IC, imagine the whining from RL if the AFL did that, they know a little bit more about everything than Hulau.
September 9th 2012 @ 9:36pm
Brewski said | September 9th 2012 @ 9:36pm | Report comment
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/politicians-insult-rugby-league-by-treating-it-as-afls-poor-cousin-20120908-25l0u.html
Here we go, his new “article” .
Roy sure has issues.
Puts the boot in at any oppurtunity, we can add it to the above list.
September 10th 2012 @ 12:16am
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 10th 2012 @ 12:16am | Report comment
What’s wrong with Roy’s article?
Everything he said is true.
September 11th 2012 @ 2:57pm
Tim Prentice said | September 11th 2012 @ 2:57pm | Report comment
Roy has an opinion and a background to back it up Brewski.
The fact remains, though, that rugby league gets something bordering on zilch coverage everywhere but Qld and NSW. The media people in the other states have blinkers on.
September 11th 2012 @ 3:14pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 11th 2012 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
Australian Rules an brewski have the same blinkers on. I’ve never met more insular people than Victorians. They claim Melbourne is the sporting capital of the world, but they don’t bother to sell out a Storm semi-final. Brisbane is more of a sporting capital.
September 7th 2012 @ 12:51pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 7th 2012 @ 12:51pm | Report comment
Cowboys have a lot of depth in the halves. They can throw Ray Thompson in there once he’s fit again.
September 7th 2012 @ 1:00pm
planko said | September 7th 2012 @ 1:00pm | Report comment
Yes the boy can play …. I am not sure if one player equals a lot of depth… But he should have played against Souths….
September 7th 2012 @ 1:01pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 7th 2012 @ 1:01pm | Report comment
They brought him back a few weeks ago, but I think he reinjured his shoulder. I’m not sure if he’s 100%. I think they’re resting him until the injury has completely healed. No need to rush him back while Morgan is doing such a fine job.
September 7th 2012 @ 1:05pm
planko said | September 7th 2012 @ 1:05pm | Report comment
I meant Cronulla not Souths… BTW i still think it was dumb to play 40% of salary cap in a game that meant nothing against Cronulla
September 7th 2012 @ 1:59pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 7th 2012 @ 1:59pm | Report comment
Robert Lui is available for 2013. That’s two quality first-grade halves in reserve. No other team has that sort of depth.
September 7th 2012 @ 2:05pm
planko said | September 7th 2012 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
LOL yeah good luck with that just lock up your women ! But you are correct that sounds good..
September 7th 2012 @ 2:09pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 7th 2012 @ 2:09pm | Report comment
I can see why the Cowboys signed such a talented player, but they were mad for taking in some one who has done such horrible things off the field. How on Earth could his team mates play alongside him?
I would have difficulty playing alongside some one who beats up people that are much smaller and weaker than them.
September 7th 2012 @ 2:35pm
Bulldog said | September 7th 2012 @ 2:35pm | Report comment
Ray has gone under the knife. He is out untill next year.
September 7th 2012 @ 1:22pm
NF said | September 7th 2012 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
planko it may been stupid but it keep Cows momentum going if they lost to Sharks in Sydney would of dent Cows’s confidence. Every win in particular in Sydney counts for Cowboys.
September 7th 2012 @ 2:02pm
planko said | September 7th 2012 @ 2:02pm | Report comment
That is my point it did not count….. Beating the Sharks means nothing but not having Thurston next week cause he got injured when you play either the Eagles which you could not beat at home or the Bulldogs would have been stupid ! Confidence would not have been required without Thurston in Sydney playing the eagles or the bulldogs devine intervention would not have saved you.
September 7th 2012 @ 2:39pm
Meesta Cool said | September 7th 2012 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
Hey Tim, you forgot to mention the officials, they have decided as many games this season than most of the players.. Ooops here I go again!.
September 7th 2012 @ 2:52pm
planko said | September 7th 2012 @ 2:52pm | Report comment
Messta Cool maybe we can get the bookies in on it. First try scorer if team AAMI award incorrectly then maybe you should be able to select team AAMI if they score more often than the teams playing. Or if you back player as first scorer maybe you can back a referee.
September 7th 2012 @ 4:04pm
Tim Prentice said | September 7th 2012 @ 4:04pm | Report comment
Hi Meesta C: I try not to mention (or even think of) officials when writing anything about rugby league.
I have told my league-loving mates too many times that I fear this year’s Grand Final is going to be determined by an inexplicable or just plain, common-or-garden dud decision.
The code is working hard to get the referee system right but it seems to take one step forward and then two back.
I have never been sold on the two ref caper and what is going on in those video review boxes? In many, many instances, they don’t seem to see the play the way that we do.
Can one guy be right and a squillion fans be wrong so often?
I will be dirty forever if a highly dubious call decides this year’s title. Too late then to drop a referee or a video judge.
The damage will be irrepairable and can never be erased from the record books.