Cronulla boned, Broncos win, in NRL season stats crunch
Roar Guru By jamesb, 10 Sep 2012 jamesb is a Roar Guru
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With the NRL to have a fixed 20 round season schedule over the next five years, perhaps it has come at a good time following this year’s schedule.
This season Brisbane had a whopping 18 Friday night games, with their nearest rivals being Canterbury and St. George-Illawarra, whose total of ten includes the Thursday night season opener.
Cronulla was last with one Friday match, which of course was against the Broncos. The Warriors, Roosters and Panthers only had two matches on Friday nights.
Brisbane playing three quarters of their season on Friday certainly gives them an advantage in regards to the same routine with the same seven-day turnaround, while majority of the comp can have inconsistent turnarounds of seven days, nine days, six days, ten days, five days – basically all over the place. This does balance itself out though when Origin comes around and the Broncos get hurt with players backing up.
With Saturday night football, there’s no surprise with North Queensland leading the way with 13 matches, with ten of those at Dairy Farmers.The Cowboys love having Saturday night games at home to enable most Cowboy fans up north of Queensland to travel to the game. Also no surprise that the Cowboys’ big brother, Brisbane, has the least Saturday night matches, playing just one.
Sunday afternoons, the timeslot which the majority of the clubs would love to have to get the crowds, saw Canberra lead the way with 11 matches, followed by Cronulla, Souths and the Sydney Roosters with 10. The team that had the lowest was surprisingingly the Dragons with just three matches, which means (if you include the ANZAC match), the Dragons played football in the daylight only four times in season 2012. They share that number with Brisbane and North Queensland.
With Monday night football, the dreaded timeslot for crowds, Cronulla led the way by playing seven matches home and away. It’s a tough gig, when you consider that nearly a third of their season was played on a school night. Ridiculous.
There should be a situation where a club only plays up to four matches on Monday night, to share the load. On the other end of the scale, Gold Coast Titans didn’t play one Monday night game. NRL scheduling at its worst.
Now we get down to the most important category, free to air. The team that had the most exposure was obvoiusly the Brisbane Broncos, with a staggering 21 matches out of 24. Next best was Souths and and the Tigers with 13 apiece. The least was eventual top-eight side Canberra with three matches, while the Warriors also had three. Cronulla was next lowest with four matches.
As the teams finished on the ladder after 26 rounds, Canberra finished sixth with 30 points, Cronulla’s finished seventh with 29 points, while Brisbane finished eighth with 28. Yet team eight had 18 more games of free-to-air exposure than team six.
It’s certainly proving that performance on the field doesn’t translate to free-to-air coverage, even when we do acknowledge that teams with big supporters bases like Brisbane, Canterbury, St George, Souths, Wests and Parramtta will always be on free to air to drive up the ratings. Speaking of Parramatta, the team that came last had eight matches on free to air. Well, if Parra had a great season, they might rival Brisbanes 21 matches.
With lack of exposure on free to air, it is unfair on clubs like Canberra and Cronulla, top eight finalists who between them had only seven appearances on free television. Those clubs should be getting more exposure. It would help to build up their supporter base, and also get sponsors on board. As with Monday night games, there needs to be an even share between teams.
Hopefully with the 20 round fixed schedule in season 2013, we’ll see a fairer balance for the broadcaster, still cashing in on teams’ popularity, but also give the smaller teams a fair go.
Friday night
Most: Brisbane Broncos 18/24
Least: Cronulla 1/24
Saturday
Most: North Qld 13/24
Least: Brisbane 1/24
Sunday
Most: Canberra 11/24
Least: Dragons 2/24
Monday night
Most: Cronulla 7/24
Least: Gold Coast 0/24
Free to air
Most: Brisbane 21/24
Least: Canberra, Warriors 3/24
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September 10th 2012 @ 7:16am
oikee said | September 10th 2012 @ 7:16am | Report comment
You can talk till your blue in the face about Broncos Friday night, they are a Queensland team and we need to have at least one Queensland team on Friday, you said the Cows love playing Saturday night because of the travelling fans, that only leaves the Titans for a Friday night game. You want the Titans who cant beat my granny on a Friday night. ?
Lets get to Gallen, he went after Papalii in the first 5 minutes (jersey knukkle and double knees to the head in the tackle player trying to get up) and then squewled like a little pig when Papalii got even.
Gallen also showed he is nothing but a thug, telling everyone he was going to revenge shot Papaliii on national tv, i suppose you want our kids subjected to this thug on Friday night as well. ??
Rugby league has to clean up their image, between Manly with brawling and Gallen and his thuggish play, its hard to put them anywhere, Maybe Monday night outta sight is the best for this angry brutish thug .
Leopards dont change there spots, Gallen was known as a dirty lowlife, as far as i am concerned , nothing has changed.
Families should not be subjected to this sort of stuff, he was like a hitman out there, eye for eye stuff.
Get him his mug off TV.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:51am
kid said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:51am | Report comment
I think Qld audiences wouldn’t mind watching the cowboys or the melbourne storm with their contingent of qld origin reps on a friday night. Broncos have asked for sunday games so why is it you can’t move cowboys from sat to fri but you can move broncos from sun to fri? Of course the obvious answer is more free to air games but that isn’t going to happen.
Gallen does use dirty tactics and is applauded for doing so by commentators describing it as a “bit of a massage with his forearm”… right before they throw to a video package of the biggest hits of the season, featuring at least 4 incidents where players were suspended because of that “awesome hit”.
I love hard but fair… I hate thuggish “working over” of defenseless players and promotion of illegal tackles.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:14am
Renegade said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:14am | Report comment
Are you in Oikee World again today mate??
People want to see the best forward in the game play…..which means more of Paul Gallen and less of Matt Gillett.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:22am
Will Sinclair said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:22am | Report comment
I think you’re underestimating QLD NRL fans there Oikee.
Do you really think they wouldn’t tune in for a great game between two Sydney teams – like the Dogs v Manly for example.
September 10th 2012 @ 4:09pm
Tommygun said | September 10th 2012 @ 4:09pm | Report comment
Completely agree Will. Quality footy and good match ups will get the ratings. Drives me insane watching Brisbane constantly.
Also Oikee, third man in Thaiday is hardly a saint either.
September 12th 2012 @ 2:56pm
josh said | September 12th 2012 @ 2:56pm | Report comment
If only more of the players followed Thaiday’s good example huh?
September 10th 2012 @ 7:41am
mushi said | September 10th 2012 @ 7:41am | Report comment
Why would performance drive free to air coverage? As you “acknowledge”, and then dismiss as relevant, it is driven by how many eye balls they think it will attract to the TV screen.
How were they “boned”?
September 10th 2012 @ 8:19am
sledgeross said | September 10th 2012 @ 8:19am | Report comment
Pull your head out of it Oikee. Gallen didnt tell everyone he was going after Papalii at all, he told the referee. These things get said on the field. If you have a problem, then spit the dummy at the broadcasters. It was nowhere near as bad as the vitriol spewed forth by Ennis on Friday nights coverage.
To be fair Gallen didnt whinge in the press conference afterwards, and he get get blindsided late a few times. Understandable that tempers would fray. At the end of teh day winners are grinners, and the Raiders were waaaaaaaay too classy for a Sharks team that punched way above their weight this year. Good finals series, with teh weakest two teams eliminated.
September 10th 2012 @ 8:45am
oikee said | September 10th 2012 @ 8:45am | Report comment
He did get dog-shotted, once by Papalii when he thought he still had hold of the ball. The other was hardly a shot, he laid on the ground to milk a penalty. He was hardly even hit, even the refs knew he was faking and did not put it on report. Fait dinkum mate, he told the refs he was going to dogshot Papalii.
This is the captain, this guy is nothing but a loser really, he should never be captain of anything, not even tiddly winks.
He sets a bad example, plays grubby, he always has his legs around the tackled players ears, he always elbows the tackled players face, gives him a facial with his forearm or screws the players jersey and pushes his head into the turf.
Why dont you watch him, i do, i see it nearly every tackle. He dishes dirt and expects no one to retaliate.
He is nothing but a grubby thug. On the second tackle, Papalii got up and looked to see who it was(Gallen) and said right, your mine loser.
Gallen took 2 shots, never went off, never even got hurt. The guy is a actor. A bad actor. I would not pay to watch him.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:18am
Renegade said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:18am | Report comment
Oiks,
This guy hasn’t trained a single session with the sharks since origin yet puts his body on the line for the team and makes over 200m plus over 30 tackles everygame as well as an enormous amount of offloads, tackle breaks, assists and everything else.
I don’t know what sport you’ve been watching but he is without doubt the best forward in the game and has been for a good 2 or 3 years now.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:30am
planko said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:30am | Report comment
Renegade but he does not play for the Broncos …. Btw I agree with you if Lyon and Matai dont Manly will be pushing **** up a hill. I would give them a hope at the fortress but at Alianz nut !!
September 10th 2012 @ 9:01am
oikee said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Just read the report, seems like Papalii did go after Gallen to unsettle him.
Gallen was out to do the same, so all fair in love and war. Papalii 1, Gallen zero.
All fair love and war, Gallen lost anothet semi final for his team, lets move on, nothing to see here.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:44am
Gareth said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:44am | Report comment
By the end of the game, Gallen was just avoiding Big Papa altogether and opting to run at Sandor Earl instead. Not a good look for a bloke who has a reputation as one of the hardest nuts in the game – especially after his constant petty bickering with the officials. Might have to start calling him Braith.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:21am
Renegade said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:21am | Report comment
LOL that’s just rubbish mate…
September 10th 2012 @ 4:12pm
Tommygun said | September 10th 2012 @ 4:12pm | Report comment
Papalii has to be a moral for the NZ team. Have some pretty special backrowers at the moment.
Papalii, Mannering, Glenn, Pritchard… Should be a tough pack.
September 10th 2012 @ 4:24pm
Bring Back the Bears said | September 10th 2012 @ 4:24pm | Report comment
I’ve been a big fan of Gallen, but the fact he got so easily unsettled is a bit worrying. I’d never questioned his SOO captaincy until then.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:13pm
Johnno said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:13pm | Report comment
Big Gal was hit with massive shot around the head on side of head and ear without seeing it. hit in the back could of put him in a wheel chair he didn’t see that coming either. 2 cheap shots. He got no support form ref he said he would take matters into his own hands to the refs if this keeps going on.
-If that was gallen 5 years ago, or Hopoate senior he would of been sent for both plays. And to be honest that bloke is simply bigger stronger and younger than big Gall too. A massive 1 of many massive polynesians. Fifita is a big unit too.
-Gal was never given a chance to fight back as both shots were cheap as.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:15am
JazzyJase said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:15am | Report comment
great research and article
how can the nrl be considered an even playing field with stats like these ????
September 10th 2012 @ 10:11am
Matt said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
Because they’re not on FTA it somehow disadvantages them? If some teams constantly don’t play Friday night, that means they must mainly play Saturday and Sunday (given only 1 game on Monday). It’s not as if alternating between the two somehow makes it harder for them to win. A bigger factor is probably travel, of those 6-7 days between games, how much is at home preparing, how much is getting back from one game, and getting to the next (opponents being warriors, melbourne, canberra, qld teams)
September 10th 2012 @ 11:46am
Matt F said | September 10th 2012 @ 11:46am | Report comment
On-field I agree with you. I don’t see it as a really significant advantage, at least not as much as others do. Off-field (commercially) however it’s a massive advantage
September 10th 2012 @ 9:23am
Stevo4 said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Since the start of the TV deal in 2007, by my reckoning:
Free to air, not including NZ as they have a special NZ FTA deal:
Brisbane 108/144 games (75%) – 18 games a year average
Wests: 77/144 (54%) – 12.8 games a year average
down to
Cronulla: 23/144 (16%) – 3.8 games a year average
Canberra: 15/144 (10.4%) – 2.5 games a year average
Canberra’s would have been lower, except that the contract stipulates each club needs a minimum of 2 games a year on FTA. In 4 out of 6 seasons, Canberra has had the bare minimum.
This was the main issue which should have been addressed in the TV deal, but few supporters of non-affected clubs gave a toss, it was all about maximum income and nothing else. Nobody is saying it should be equitable, but there should be some bare minimum which allows clubs like Canberra and Cronulla to get enough games to get proper sponsorship. Why would a company spend any money on main sponsorship for Canberra or Cronulla, when a sleeve sponsor for a major Sydney club would give you greater exposure.
I’ve yet to hear what the minimum number of games for each club each season is, but I’m betting it’s the same as it is now, which is 2. Hopefully the longer draw will at least give these clubs something, but I doubt it given the way 9 has treated these clubs over the last decade.
Second issue:
Monday night highest (over last 4 years):
Canberra 16 (17 if you count a Sunday night last round)
Cronulla 15
Newcastle 15
The second was getting rid of Monday night, which is a blight on the game. And unsurprisingly it affects those clubs which get shafted by the FTA most often (Newcastle is 11th/15 in FTA coverage since 2007).
September 10th 2012 @ 9:34am
JazzyJase said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:34am | Report comment
“Why would a company spend any money on main sponsorship for Canberra or Cronulla, when a sleeve sponsor for a major Sydney club would give you greater exposure.”
They are queuing up to get on board with Broncos – it isn’t equitable
September 10th 2012 @ 9:50am
planko said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:50am | Report comment
I agree with you about expossure but canberra are not struggling to get sponsors. Every person in Canberra is trying to sell something or an agenda to an SES Officer in the federal government department.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/raiders-sew-up-strip-sponsors-20120809-23xfo.html
September 10th 2012 @ 10:43am
mushi said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:43am | Report comment
Yep not equitable but what you are basically saying is we should reduce the overall pie just so some clubs feel like they are getting more of it. As both TV rights and over all value delivered to the NRL will be worth less value if you mandate that lower rating teams must be show at the expense of others.
September 10th 2012 @ 8:26pm
Stevo4 said | September 10th 2012 @ 8:26pm | Report comment
How much would you have to reduce it money-wise so that each team gets 5 games on FTA a year? Canberra got 3 this year, and Cronulla 4. You’re talking realistically about 2-3 games a year compared to last year, when they play over 70 games on FTA a year. It’s not a huge imposition, and frankly I’d be expecting the same money for it. I would also argue a similar rule with Sunday afternoons (i.e. each club should get at least 2 sunday afternoon home games, including Brisbane). It’s about long term sustainability not short term contracts.
However, to take it to an extreme, you want to scrap the minimum number of games all together than you would actually have to pay the teams disadvantaged by this inequity more money, so effectively pay more money to the teams not playing on Channel 9. This would naturally piss off the clubs who are generating the income for 9 (i.e. Brisbane and big Sydney teams), which leads down bad roads which rugby league has trod before.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:28am
sledgeross said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:28am | Report comment
Agreed Oiks, Canberra did a job on him, and it worked. Its a bit different pushing a blokes face into the grass than blindsiding him though.
I really though Flanaghan dropped the ball yesterday. The Sharks win more games when Bukuya starts instead of Tupou (Toops continually turned the ball over in the first half yesterday, in great positions, cost Sharks big time) and also putting gordon at FB instead of Wright was terrible. Wright may not be flashy, but hes is safe and strong and hasnt let the team down this year. Gordon tried hard, but showed he was not willing to catch the ball on the full, and was continually caught out of position (see Fergusons try of teh bomb).
All in all, Sharks were lucky to put in some good performances early in teh year, because they are not really a top 8 team.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:33am
JazzyJase said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:33am | Report comment
good call SR, Two-poo makes so many fundamental blunders, pushing miracle balls etc. Bukuya had a strong season when given the opportunity.
Gordon had a day to forget when Wright was previously safe and effective from fullback.
As a Sharkies fan i was happy they made the 8 and at start of year didn’t think that was achievable. So credit to them in that regard. Losses in games they should have won and they got towelled up by NQLD, Canberra at home recently in run to finals, showed they had a bit to go to be a threat. Next year maybe (hopefully)
September 10th 2012 @ 10:22am
Renegade said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:22am | Report comment
I can’t believe the decision to start gordon at FB instead of Wright…..if it was necessary than surely Gardner should have just been thrown in with the season on the line instead of Gordon.
September 10th 2012 @ 1:22pm
JVGO said | September 10th 2012 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
The dropping of Ben Roos was also quite bizarre.
September 10th 2012 @ 2:20pm
JazzyJase said | September 10th 2012 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
i think he was injured
September 10th 2012 @ 9:40am
Gaz said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:40am | Report comment
Jamesb,
We’ve been down this track before and so one last time -yes! Broncos don’t get to pick when they are on tv. It has all to do with sponsorship, tv advertising and how many are watching and how much Bunnings, Toyota and all the rest are prepared to pay to shove their products down our throats. I can not cop channel nine in any shape or form but I can tell you they don’t give a damn what team wins or losers only how much sponsorship a team can attract. Yes, funnily enough it’s all to do with the mighty dollar, not how good or how bad or where you finish or being fair to all teams it’s how much money channel nine can earn and if Toyota is prepared to pay the big bucks for a Bronco game on Friday night they are the ones who ultimately call the shots. So, it’s not the ARL or the BRoncos or in fact the broadcaster but the broadcasters sponsors who determine who plays when on free to air.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:59am
kid said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
I get that but why do the NRL forgo all the revenue associated with more free to air exposure just for an extra 150million in upfront payment from 9/fox
September 10th 2012 @ 9:59am
oikee said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
Nice report Gaz, and yes, it is why i keep saying the ARL, NSWRL or whatever they wish to call themselves, (seems like nothing has changed, this mob are as unprofessional as the last mob),
they really need to make sure the Broncos are doing well, so killing them with this crazy cap system, and letting a under 20′s coach looose who has no idea his kids cant play, something has to be done to get the Friday night Broncos back on top.
They should be winning a grand final every 5 years, without lockyer and Petro now, at this rate with this quality of player they have, (clueless), the Broncos might not win another tial or even be in a grand final for another 5 years.
That is plain madness on the codes part. It is like having a golden goose, allowing the kids on the block graffati it and melt it down and add peroxide to it and try to call it Marilyn Monroe,
It won’t work and its killing the game.
Sydney teams are dragging the game down, now they want a weak Brisbane , if they really want to kill the game, put the Titans on Friday night and kill off the Broncos altogether. Clowns.
The public are not stupid, and nor should they be. Plenty of other things to do on a Friday night.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:09am
Ian Whitchurch said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:09am | Report comment
Shorter Oikee : “Rig the league so my team wins. My team are more important than the code. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh”
No. really. Thats what he’s saying. “they really need to make sure the Broncos are doing well,”
Its very rare that you get such naked special pleading.
Its weak. Its gutless. Its bad for the great game of rugby league. And its oh so typical.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:18am
oikee said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:18am | Report comment
Notice i am thinking of the game. So i am passionate about the game doing well, to do well, let my team win, dominate, yes yes yes.
Look, truth is we wont win much anyhow, we could not win with Lockyer steering the ship. We wont ever find another Lockyer, just for the love of God give me something better than Wallace Norman and Hoffman.
Every other team has exciting halves. Have a look, and half decent fullbacks, i would even settle for the Cronulla fullback Gordon over our mob of hopeless kids.
September 10th 2012 @ 12:35pm
mushi said | September 10th 2012 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
Don’t win much – hilarious!
September 10th 2012 @ 1:47pm
NF said | September 10th 2012 @ 1:47pm | Report comment
‘Don’t win much’ Not sure if your serious oikee check the Bronco’s win/loss ratio.
September 10th 2012 @ 1:53pm
planko said | September 10th 2012 @ 1:53pm | Report comment
Oikee, Mushi , NF it would be interesting to see how many people would get to a Bronco’s game if they did not make the 8 for 5 to 7 years.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:06am
oikee said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:06am | Report comment
If we had another 1 or 2 Brisbane teams we would not be having this conversation, we could be sharing Friday night games with other teams. The code has let down the fans, the game and the other city who have propped the game up, The Broncos, largest crowds in the game, Origin was built off the back of Queensland and their passion for the game.
What return we get, kicked in the head.
Not good enough, the game needs a clear vision, the second Brisbane team should have been admitted to the game 10 years ago.
So the way the game is going, qwe could be 15 years behind where we should be in 5 years time no second Brisbane team.
This game really sucks when you think about it, no game at Suncorp every weekend, we only have the Broncos every second week, no rivalry, no 2 sets of fans, no help, no hope.
Its all their for everyone to see now. The game and dudes running the game are hopeless.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:12am
Ian Whitchurch said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:12am | Report comment
And when thats pointed out, some weak, whiny and gutless little complainer points out that will weaken his Broncos, who have a god-given right to every junior in Queensland.
To strengthen rugby league, stop rigging the league in favour of Brisbane.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:25am
oikee said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:25am | Report comment
If you followed my posts and knew what i was talking about, i have said that the Broncos would be better off not having juniors.
The fact we cant get our juniors from all around the country and pacific, NZ etc, is klilling our club.
The fact we are refined to a tiny grassroots area that we spend a fortune to maintain and not able to scout the country and overseas for talent is killing our club.
If you read my posts you would have known i am more than happy to kill off the grassroots and just rape and plunder stocks of other areas and codes like Manly and other clubs can do for free.
So got you their Ian. KIll off the grassroots, it will improve the Broncos talent pool.
This is what is killing our club. We cant scout for better quality players, we are stuck with our own weak talent pool, which is weak as you can see. Bennett never had this problem.
It is also why he probably left, he could see it is better coaching in Sydney where he can get his hands on anyone from anywhere.
He even plucked Gagai from Brisbane.
September 10th 2012 @ 1:14pm
mick h said | September 10th 2012 @ 1:14pm | Report comment
you continue to peddle complete rubbish if what your saying is true produce the evidence to back up your claims. the last time i checked all clubs could recruit talent from anywhere there is no draft. i say the problems lies with the broncos talent identification program since bennett left.
September 10th 2012 @ 2:32pm
mushi said | September 10th 2012 @ 2:32pm | Report comment
Oikee it is actually impossible for a person saddled by the rules of logic to follow your posts and know what you are talking about.
So you believe that the broncos are disadvantaged by having the largest junior base in the NRL. You would rather get rid of that junior base (which seems to go okay at origin level…) and then go and compete with other clubs for the unaligned juniors?
September 10th 2012 @ 3:27pm
NF said | September 10th 2012 @ 3:27pm | Report comment
oikee & logic doesn’t mix using what oikee said the Broncos would have the biggest advantages in the comp by there largest junior base but he wants to get talent elsewhere & get rid of the largest junior base which makes no sense what so ever.
September 10th 2012 @ 11:26am
Gaz said | September 10th 2012 @ 11:26am | Report comment
Ian,
“have a god-given right to every junior in Queensland.”
Now would’t that be good – especially if retrospective. Just imagine the Broncos with Smith, Kronk and Slater, throw in Barba and Casiano, Cherry-Evans etc.
They wouldn’t just be on Friday nite but Saturday, Sunday and Monday as well.
No, the Queenslanders are evenly spread around like they should be and all is good.
The Broncos are no longer in the competition and so so it should be, they were imposters who only got their points early in the year when playing against teams in the bottom eight. Once they started playing top eight teams they were simply out played outcoached and outclassed. Afterall they were doing it on a shoe string with an inexperienced under 20 side and coach.
The Storm have five players returning for their next game and look the side to beat this year. Both Souths and Cowboys have bought well in the off season and have added Reynolds and McGuire who are game winners. Haslers touch is showing at the Dogs and is residual at Manly who will not go any further. So Ian, “stop rigging the league in favour of Brisbane” no need for you to continue having nightmares about Brisbane, all finished for the year and if they don’t wake up in the off season it will be the same in 2013 so you can concentrate on your own side and leave Bronco bashing to another time.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:20am
NF said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
oikee
I agree with you on 2 Brisbane teams should of been like that from the get go but the Broncos ain’t that keen on sharing there turf as shown with the Crushers treatment. ‘They should be winning a grand final every 5 years’ No they wouldn’t the Broncos don’t have a right to have a premiership gifted to them even 5 years, 6 years now since the Broncos last premiership is not a drought. 10+years is the beginning of one in my books if anything oikee you posts show the traits of a Broncos supporter. Sense of entitlement, constant complaining & whining despite being spoiled constantly non-stop since day one. Hope the Cowboys 3-0 Bronx again next time just for your reaction.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:25am
Will Sinclair said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:25am | Report comment
Agree that we need another Brisbane team. In fact, we needed one ten years ago.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:40am
Renegade said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
Yep another brisbane team is a MUST.
ARLC should just come out and say Perth and Brisbane for 2015/16/17 whatever…..just do it now.
September 10th 2012 @ 8:37pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 10th 2012 @ 8:37pm | Report comment
oikee,
Why don’t you do more to support the Queensland Cup?
It’s a high standard competition and it’s Queensland’s competition. Rugby league in Brisbane doesn’t begin and end with the Broncos. There are far older, prouder clubs in the Queensland Cup that have a wonderful history between them. Kids just don’t know about htem because the QRL has let them slither out of the mainstream media over the last 20 years. More should be done to build up the Wynnum Manly Seagulls, Souths Logan Magpies, Eastern Suburbs Tigers, Northern Suburbs Devils and Ipswich Jets. They’ll never draw massive crowds like the NRL clubs, but if they’re marketed right then I can see each of them getting an average of 3,000-5,000 to each of their matches.
Not a lot of people like the Broncos. You will never get fans of the Devils, Seagulls, Magpies, Panthers and Tigers to support the team that reduced them to mediocrity in the late 80s and 90s. It would make more sense to build the Queensland Cup up so that those fans can go back to supporting their beloved teams.
Toowoomba Clydesdales and Western Suburbs Panthers need to be brought back into the Queensland Cup. The Darling Downs deserves to have a team playing in a high class competition.
The ARLC needs to invest some of its money on the stadia of Queensland Cup clubs. A covered grandstand should be erected at Davies Park, Bishop Park, Homestead Park (Logan, as a 2nd home for the Magpies).
Amendments should be made to the covered stands at Kougari Oval and North Ipswich Reserve. The playing field at North Ipswich Reserve should be brought closer to the covered western grandstand, and a second stand should be erected on the eastern side of the field.
The Arthur Lovell Stand at Kougari Oval needs to be rebuilt so that it is up to standard with the one on the western bank of Langlands Park. The Chook Pen at Kougari Oval needs to be increased so that it can fit in more supporters. Every game I’ve attended at Kougari Oval has plenty of people making lots of noise in the Chook Pen. People seem to love it. Make it the width of the field, improve facilities in it and people will fill it out!
The contra that the ARLC is getting from Channel 9 needs to go towards promoting the Queensland Cup. The ARLC owes the QRL and Queensland rugby league fans as it was the NSWRL that reduced it to mediocrity. NSWRL won out because NSW laws allowed sports clubs in Sydney to have pokie machines. Sir Joh banned pokie machines in Queensland during his 20 year reign. Time for compensation!
STUFF THE BRONCOS!
September 10th 2012 @ 9:01pm
oikee said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:01pm | Report comment
Wynnum Manly club does quite well outta the leagues club. The company i worked for use to have its end of year at this venue, which was brand new at the time and well worth a visit and support.
The Ipswich Jets has just been redone, other clubs like Redcliffe are superb.
The Clydesdales i can understand, the Toowoomba area is not large enough to support a team, we have Soccer, AFL, Union and other leisure sports, so a major team just cant work, numbers are notbig enough.
Even Canberra struggles with 350 thousand pop.
I think apart from maybe a bit more investment in some stands, the clubs are not really too bad. For shade and protection from rain. This should be mainstream, sun and rain protection, i dont need to be telling you this. The government has to get off their backsides and sink some money into rugby league grounds, the AFL have had their go.
September 13th 2012 @ 10:37pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | September 13th 2012 @ 10:37pm | Report comment
The Clydesdales have a team in the FOGS Colts. Their long-term aim is to get back into the Q-Cup.
The ARLC needs to spend some of its money on the Q-Cup clubs.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:22am
Johnno said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:22am | Report comment
Loved the Raiders VS Cronulla match at Bruce stadium. Easiy the best finals match. Real old school trip down memory when the green machine were in there prime in the 90′s. Felt like 20 years ago the energy and atmosphere.
Mal Meninga was there and commentating too. A full house, Bruce stadium rocks when full. Wish it got full more often, and perfect weather conditions too, great promotion of rugby league yesterday, and reminded everyone bring back good memories of the old green machine Mal, Sticky, Daley, Clyde, steve walters, Noa, Nagas, Jason crocker, Pongia, Jonny lomax, david furner, Mullins. A great day yesterday .
-I wish canberra fans would turn up more often and get crowds like that yesterday.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:32am
oikee said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:32am | Report comment
Yes, it was absolutely brilliant Johnno. Both teams played really well. You could nearly smell the fever coming through the tellie.
The under 20′s set the scene as well. Great all round.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:43am
Johnno said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:43am | Report comment
I agree oikee yesterday was great. Good advertisement for rugby league at it’s best. The energy you really could feel coming out of the telly at you. And the crowd were into it , and todd carney there spiced it up and some good old school type clashes gallen vs the that big young player who will maybe make his kiwi debut this year. Gallen got a dose of his own medicine by a bigger meaner player reminded me of a young raging bull gordon tallis . The commentators you could feel were into the match too, gus gold said a few times how he loves sunday afternoon footy in Canberra. I knew this match would be the best of the round.
Canberra at home like the cowboys, and warriors, and knights, storm, are real tough to beat at home in the big games. Real fortress grounds these regional 1 city/town home stadiums provide.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:59am
NF said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:59am | Report comment
Johnno
I was fortunate to be at the Broncos/Cowboys game and it was off the charts it was an electric, exciting fun atmosphere throughout the night. By half-time it was party-like every Cows supporter was having a ball while the Broncos supporters were perplexed by what they saw it was an fantastic night one I will never forget.
Also, my seating was at the Southern stand so I had a good view of the entire field it’s a stand I never to go typically East or West side during regular season. Also, the general admission when I’m with friends and roam around the stadium to get both sides of the action. But due to tickets selling quick had to settle for Southern stand and it was excellent viewing. Overall, it was a fantastic night and my confidence skyrocket of Cowboys chances this year.
September 10th 2012 @ 1:09pm
Johnno said | September 10th 2012 @ 1:09pm | Report comment
WIsh i was there NF it would off been awesome off the charts , they love smashing the broncos up in Townsville, that is why i wool dlove rugby league went to conference system like super rugby.
-Have a QLD conference
5 or 6 QLD team play twice every year,. Less travel time and player welfare issues.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:41pm
cjones said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:41pm | Report comment
Are there two Johnnos or are YOU a double agent?
September 10th 2012 @ 10:45am
Renegade said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:45am | Report comment
Totally agree Johnno…..it was the least hyped match of the finals yet produced the best game.
Canberra fans need to get to games and go watch their young side, they are on the cusp of a Grand Final….not sure if it will be this year, if it’s not then it’s only a few seasons away.