Wallabies have knocked over Boks, now for the Pumas
By Spiro Zavos, 10 Sep 2012 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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That there is some magic in having Argentina in The Rugby Championship became evident to your reporter on Saturday night, in the lift at Wellington’s Westpac Stadium.
As I waited with my wife and a couple who have been friends for years, two Argentinian men entered.
One was tall and burly (with the build of a Pumas lock) and smartly dressed in a suit and a scarf in the Argentinian colours of blue and white.
The other was elegant, wiry, and also complementing his suit with the Argentinian colours.
The elegant man pressed an Argentinian flag onto my friend, smiling and chatting while he did so. He told us the burly man was the Argentinian ambassador and he had played rugby.
“This man,” I offered, pointing to my friend, “is no Graham Henry. He is Chris Laidlaw, one of the All Blacks’ greatest halfbacks.”
With that the elegant one embraced Chris. “Delighted to meet you, Chris. My name is Hugo Porta.”
So as the lift opened up for us on the top floor of the stadium, two of the finest halves in the history of rugby, who had never before met, were still in an embrace as they made their way to their respective boxes, promising to catch up in Argentina next year.
The Tri Nations was becoming slightly stale with Australia, South Africa and New Zealand playing each other three times in one season. The Pumas have added an extra dimension to the tournament, the South American experience.
And there is a better balance in the matches with each team playing each other at home and away.
The Pumas also bring a passion and intensity to their rugby that cannot be matched by the other teams, or rather the players, in the other traditional sides.
The Pumas supporters, too; there were a hundred or so of them at Westpac Stadium near the 22 down the gale end of the ground. They waved their flags, blew their horns and generally made enough noise to challenge the 34,000 New Zealanders at the ground.
Before I get too enthusiastic about the Pumas and their impact on The Rugby Championship, I need to make a couple of qualifications about their play. They have to get the cynicism and go-slow aspects of their play out of their game.
They took an eternity to go into their lineouts. They played offside, or near enough to it, for most of the match. And they made a habit of sending a player down after virtually every play.
The effect of this was to slow down play to such an extent, especially in the first half, that there was no tempo or flow to the match.
These tactics, along with some sensational tackling and the virtual impossibility of passing accurately with winds gusting over 150km, meant that the Rolls Royce game of the All Blacks was reduced to that of a tank smashing through rough territory.
The All Blacks made 133 carries with the ball. They made 470m with these carries, with McCaw (still the finest loose forward in the modern game) carrying for 133m in 14 carries, the most of any player on the ground. Three All Black backs (Conrad Smith 58 metres, Israel Dagg 58, and Julian Savea 56) made the running in the backs.
The Pumas made 43 carries for 177m. The most ground gained by a Puma was by Juan Martin Fernandez with six carries for 43m.
Judging by these figures, the Pumas would have been lucky to get out of the match on a normal night with fewer than 40 points scored against them. The difficulty with making a suggestion like this is that their defence was superb. Some of their hits were massive.
Ask Luke Romano about the dumping he received when charging towards the Pumas try line from a 5m penalty tap. Romano didn’t just go back in the tackle, he rocketed back like an Exocet.
Towards the end of the match, the All Blacks started to get outside the Pumas defence. This is the area one would think that the Wallabies will try to exploit with Quade Cooper’s passing game at Brisbane on Saturday night.
The Wallabies have been having a hard time from their supporters recently. And, judging from some of the comments on Sunday, there is still not a great deal of satisfaction taken from the exciting and (almost literally) hard-fought victory over a desperate Springboks side.
There was a time, essentially before Robbie Deans came to the Wallabies as a coach, when the side rarely defeated the Springboks. Certainly in the history of the two teams, the Springboks were the dominant side until the 1990s.
Even Rod Macqueen’s Wallaby champions struggled against the Springboks. But now the Wallabies have won something like six out of the last seven Tests.
The victory at Perth has entrenched the Wallabies as the number two side in the world. The doomsayers need to remember this.
And the sweetest part of the victory was that the Wallabies came back from being down 13-6 at half-time. The Springboks made the most of their chances on the infrequent times they got into Wallaby territory. The Wallabies managed to stuff things up when they got into attacking positions.
In international rugby, it is virtually a sure thing that the side that leads at half-time will win the match. The Wallabies, though, turned that history on its head with a tremendous second half effort.
My player of the match was Michael Hooper, whose go-forward drives and pace with his break gave the Wallabies the momentum to crash into the Springbok 22 several times in a thrilling second half.
I’ve made this point before, but when David Pocock comes back he should be played at number 6 or number 8. This would allow Hooper to stay in the side, as he must, to give the speed to the ball a balanced back row trio needs.
Just as Greg Clarke was bemoaning the fact (correctly) that the Wallabies had found it hard to score tries this season, with just six in the previous six Tests, Ben Alexander flashed down the far side-line like a runaway truck downhill. He crashed over the try line for the try that has saved the season for the Wallabies, and possibly for coach Deans.
Talking about Alexander, it was good to see the Wallaby scrum contesting legitimately and successfully and winning penalties by tough and skilful scrumming. They will need to keep this up against the Pumas who have a solid and generally strong scrum, although the All Blacks did fracture them occasionally.
It was not good to see, however, the antics of Nathan Sharpe, who managed to give away a penalty on a number of occasions when the Wallabies had momentum and were on the attack.
I wrote down in my notebook that his behaviour was a sort of ‘faux mongrel’ that terrified only his own coaching bench.
He did manage to get the impressive Springboks young lock Eben Etzebeth to give him the softest of Liverpool kisses. But this was a poor reward for Sharpe for all the penalties he gave away himself with his antagonistic play.
There is nothing like a win against a strong opponent to lift the spirits of an embattled side, as the Wallabies were. I expect them to play with more speed and ball-running at Brisbane on the magnificent turf there and to be too fast around the field for the Pumas.
The Pumas will play with passion and the spirit reflected by Hugo Porta’s enthusiasm for his nation’s side. But, somehow, you have the feeling that this spirit and intensity in support of the jersey will be far more effective in Argentina.
At the Gold Coast, the home fans finally have the chance to support a Wallaby side (minus yet another captain in Will Genia, unfortunately) that is coming into the sort of form everyone has been hoping for for most of this current season.
As the old adage has it, better late than never!
Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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September 10th 2012 @ 7:18am
katzilla said | September 10th 2012 @ 7:18am | Report comment
Yeah I met a few Argies at the bar I watched it too, though they were no Hugo Porta.
It’s nice to chat with new fans rather then same old types, not that I would not banter with either of our older foes but nice to have some fresh accents and ideas of Banter. The guy in front of me didn’t speak much English but made a good impression of a hamster running on a wheel during the power outage. His idea certainly was understood.
Also pretty girls
September 10th 2012 @ 9:28am
Happy Hooker said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:28am | Report comment
The ones that didn’t speak much English. Were they Kiwis or Argies?
September 10th 2012 @ 12:45pm
HardcorePrawn said | September 10th 2012 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
At the risk of sounding like a bit of a dinosaur, and with the possible exception of the national football teams of Brazil, the Netherlands and Sweden, I find that regardless of the nations playing, the girls that attend rugby matches are always prettier than those that watch other sports!
September 10th 2012 @ 3:03pm
ted said | September 10th 2012 @ 3:03pm | Report comment
except in NZ
September 10th 2012 @ 3:36pm
nickoldschool said | September 10th 2012 @ 3:36pm | Report comment
Hardcore, I think it’s very true for nations having football as national sport (i.e. England, Wales, France etc) then rugby. Not so true for the SH nations, with the exception of Argentina.
I dream of the day when rugby will be played in Estonia, Latvia and other Baltic/Scandinavian nations…
September 10th 2012 @ 3:49pm
HardcorePrawn said | September 10th 2012 @ 3:49pm | Report comment
If I remember correctly, from the highlights I watched online (thank you very much Channel Nine!!) Russia’s appearance at last year’s RWC rather proved the theory right too.
I’m not sure too many Welsh would agree that their national sport is football though, they love their rugby there.
September 10th 2012 @ 3:58pm
nickoldschool said | September 10th 2012 @ 3:58pm | Report comment
HP, true, thought the same as i was writing my post (was coward enough not to put Ireland as an example!) but thought the Giggs, Gareth Bale and co do have many supporters too. I would imagine the EPL has more audience than the rabo pro 12 but am not 100% certain.
anyway, main point is: northern/eastern euro girls are hot and we should expand there! just sayin!
September 10th 2012 @ 7:46am
Riccardo said | September 10th 2012 @ 7:46am | Report comment
The Argentinian girls are beautiful aren’t they katzilla.
Spiro, I also thought the Pumas were cynical but they were allowed this lattitude by the Ref. I was more concerned with the All Blacks trying too much too quickly. They needed some ascendancy up front before going for the wider pacier game that Hansen is trying to implement, particularly in such appalling weather.
While the conditions were atrocious we have had three outings now and the All Blacks are clearly struggling to get it right. While we have managed to win all three fixtures and there are aspects to be pleased with, the handling errors and finishing problems have not gone un-noticed in NZ.
Well done Wallabies on a gutsy win. Alexander had a good game and will have silenced some critics, but I fear the growing injury roster will have an effect the deeper into the tournament we go. I totally agree that DP needs to be moved to 8, Dennis dropped, Higgers installed at 6 and Hooper to continue at openside. He has been a revelation.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:39am
WQ said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:39am | Report comment
Riccardo you could almost be the Wallaby Coach.
That backrow would provide plenty for the Wallabies and would look much better balanced than the current combination.
September 10th 2012 @ 7:46am
Bazza all black said | September 10th 2012 @ 7:46am | Report comment
The argies give us all a good practice of some of the negative and timewasting tactics the NH teams and clubs use.
Good practice for us and good to have a different style to combat.
September 10th 2012 @ 8:35am
Pot Hale said | September 10th 2012 @ 8:35am | Report comment
As opposed to the SH way of kicking the ball away back and forth…….?
Hmm.
September 10th 2012 @ 8:02am
ohtani's jacket said | September 10th 2012 @ 8:02am | Report comment
“There was a time, essentially before Robbie Deans came to the Wallabies as a coach, when the side rarely defeated the Springboks.”
Yeah, aside from the 14 from 18 times they beat the Springboks at home in the Tri-Nations.
September 10th 2012 @ 8:41am
soapit said | September 10th 2012 @ 8:41am | Report comment
thats right, we struggled away but have never consistently been below the boks at home.
a win by seven at home is really a C pass
September 10th 2012 @ 11:13am
Ryan said | September 10th 2012 @ 11:13am | Report comment
I agree soapit a win over the Boks is good on any day however lets not get carried away this game was a home match for the Wallabies over a Springboks side under just as much if not more pressure than the Wallabies of whom have had the wood over the South Africans under Deans watch is it now played 13 won 9?
It was a good effort does it cement them in 2nd spot on the flawed IRB rankings sure but lets see what happens when they hit the road to SA and Argentina I think you will find they will struggle immensely.
September 10th 2012 @ 8:06am
Badjack (the armchair critic) said | September 10th 2012 @ 8:06am | Report comment
Sharpe was doing no more on Sat night than McCaw does in every international he plays in. The big difference was that the ref and 1 touchy took a dislike to Sharpe doing it, whereas it is hard to find a ref who will ping McCaw. However both are great stalwarts of our game.
September 10th 2012 @ 8:47am
Nick said | September 10th 2012 @ 8:47am | Report comment
Mccaw is hardly an “enforcer” type player. Getting penalised is one thing but sharpe was looking to create niggle a lot, mccaw isn’t used fir that purpose by the abs. That job lay with brad thorn till this year, it’s probably lacking since his retirement, hence the reason they got outmuscled in the first half.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:13am
Badjack (the armchair critic) said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:13am | Report comment
@ nick…I think it was niggling more than enforcing and I think McCaw is a great niggler and effective at it.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:28am
Hurl said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:28am | Report comment
How do you know McCaws a great niggler?…. no one ever sees it..
Thats the problem with Sharpe, he was too visable. Zero niggle created for 2 penalties is a poor return
September 10th 2012 @ 10:31am
jameswm said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:31am | Report comment
Nah I don’t think McCaw’s a niggler. He’s not dirty.
He’s just the most proficient cheat to play the game. Obstruction is his biggest thing.
September 10th 2012 @ 8:47am
Voss said | September 10th 2012 @ 8:47am | Report comment
Same old same old Badjack, and original ideas?
Looked to me like Sharpe is slightly off the pace, many players that overstay their use by get niggly.
Backs are a worry, no penetration and directionless kicking (by both sides) took away any spectacle.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:16am
Badjack (the armchair critic) said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
@ Voss….. sorry, I forgot we are not allowed to criticise Sir Richard.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:37am
Riccardo said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:37am | Report comment
Not at all Badjack,
I think it’s your comparison of him with Nathan Sharpe that has let you down.
If you compare the lazy, injudicious offending of Sharpe, with the gamesmanship and manipulation of McCaw your argument comes a little unstuck.
To be fair, they were both penalised more than once on Saturday night though.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:44am
WQ said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:44am | Report comment
Badjack (the armchair critic), your dislike for Ritchie McCaw clearly influences your reality.
You can call him a cheat, you can tell everybody that may like to listen to you that he gets away with being off side more than any other player. You can accuse him of getting away with things that other players don’t. However if you are attempting to call him dirty you are clearly blinded by your bias and dislike of him.
September 10th 2012 @ 11:07am
redsnut said | September 10th 2012 @ 11:07am | Report comment
WQ, your last sentence, imo, suggests to me that you don’t know what “dirty play” is.
It is knowingly and deliberately disregarding the rules of the game. And he does it all the time.
September 10th 2012 @ 11:17am
Snobby Deans said | September 10th 2012 @ 11:17am | Report comment
As do a lot of players in every team, redsnut. Show me a team where players don’t push the boundaries, and I’ll show a naive and often-losing team. I think most people would equate “dirty play” with things like head-butting, eye-gouging, etc, rather than pushing the boundaries and being penalised for it.
September 10th 2012 @ 11:22am
Riccardo said | September 10th 2012 @ 11:22am | Report comment
Bollocks!
While we appreciate your opinion, let’s have a reality check.
The reason most posters and fans of opposition Teams get frustratred by Richie is because his perceived “offending” (the correct terminology for breaking the laws) is right at the upper limit of being Legal, or is open to interpretation by the Referee and his assistants, specifically because it’s right on the line of transgression.
As the All Black Captain Richie has developed a reationship with, or an understanding of, the stylle/interpretation of most referees. This of course works in his favour when it comes to interpreting the potential infringement he is allegedly committing and potential outcomes, should he be penalised.
“Dirty play” is the frustrated opponent who then eye-gouges Richie in the ruck due to his inability to dominate him on the paddock, or his inability to have the same resonance with the officials.
September 10th 2012 @ 11:42am
formeropenside said | September 10th 2012 @ 11:42am | Report comment
Well, Richie was on the wrong side of the ruck at the time.
September 10th 2012 @ 12:26pm
Nick said | September 10th 2012 @ 12:26pm | Report comment
No. “dirty play” is, and always has been, “thuggish” in nature. Made famous by players like Low and Botha.
September 10th 2012 @ 2:08pm
WQ said | September 10th 2012 @ 2:08pm | Report comment
Nick that would be Loe and Botha and you are correct with your understanding of “dirty play”
September 10th 2012 @ 2:06pm
WQ said | September 10th 2012 @ 2:06pm | Report comment
Absolute rubbish redsnut, if you believe that then you have a similar issue to old mate here re: Ritchie McCaw!
September 10th 2012 @ 11:27am
Badjack (the armchair critic) said | September 10th 2012 @ 11:27am | Report comment
WQ….You need to read what I actually wrote before you mouth off. Where did I say I dislike McCaw? Where did I call him cheat? Where did I say he got offside more than any other player and where did I call him dirty?
In my first comment I said Sharpe did no more than McCaw does except Sharpe got caught. My reply to another comment was that I saw it as niggle not enforcing. I also said he was great at it and effective. That is high praise because I think niggle is part of the game. Then when some precious diddums did not appreciate what I said I took the mickey out of him and called McCaw Sir Richard. So reply to what is written not what you think is written
September 10th 2012 @ 2:47pm
WQ said | September 10th 2012 @ 2:47pm | Report comment
Badjack (the armchair critic), honestly ask yourself why you made any reference at all to Ritchie McCaw in the context of the point you were trying to make. Why did’nt you mention David Pocock, Beau Robinson, Sam Warburton, Thierry Dusatoir or any one of hundreds of international players that play the game?
After you have been honest with yourself about why you even jumped straight to a comparison with Ritchie McCaw, you can stop pretending you admire him and just be honest with yourself and everybody else on the Roar and continue to bag him.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:14am
Saladaz said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:14am | Report comment
That’s a coincidence, Spiro. I was in a hotel lobby in Perth before the game with a friend of mine
from SA. There were two blokes sitting opposite us who were obviously going to the match. They said hello. I introduced myself and my friend Jaco Skotnes who was one of the greatest centres Rondebosch High ever had. One of the blokes opposite shook Jaco’s hand and said, “I’m Stan Moniuszko.” You’re right, it was THE Stan Monsiuszko, the great Polish winger. Looks like we had parallel experiences, Spiro.
September 10th 2012 @ 1:42pm
moaman said | September 10th 2012 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
Wow….Nice….Stan Moniuszko……commentators around the globe were happy when HE retired!
September 10th 2012 @ 9:24am
RedSkippy said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:24am | Report comment
Great run by Alexander – amazing what a fit prop can – take note Benn Robinson! Also noted was Hooper’s speed which was welcome. While Pocock is a man mountain that is of little use if you’re not where the ball is!
Only question is – will Hooper go backwards as he joins the rest of the Tahs in the gym 24/7?
September 10th 2012 @ 9:29am
DingoBob said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:29am | Report comment
A real pity about Genia but the big question is who will be his replacement now Nick White has gone off to have shoulder surgery because he wasn’t even picked int he squad.
September 10th 2012 @ 9:33am
Eric said | September 10th 2012 @ 9:33am | Report comment
Nathan Sharpe is THE safest lineout forward I can recall, even with TPN throwing in. They called McCall “The Mailman”, but this bloke is streets ahead. I am not sure what he was doing wandering around in their lineout for that first penalty, but I didn’t notice a “number” of penalties as Spiro alleges.
September 10th 2012 @ 10:27am
Harry said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:27am | Report comment
Hooper, Samo and Higginbotham will need to match the ball carrying work of McCaw and the rest of the All Blacks if they are to best Argentina. McCaw was simply fantastic for the ABs on the weekend (again), and if Hooper in particular can take the ball up close enough to McCaw’s standard then Australian should win.
Kane Douglas would be my pick to playin place of the injured Timani, it will be pretty willing up front, and Simmons, Nelville and Pyle just aren’t as tough. Douglas was far more impressive than Neville in the Sydney club game on the weekend and given thats the only indicator we can go on (despite the limitations of club rugby) I sincerely hope the selectors watched it.
The Argie lineout was shaky at key times, but from their own inaccuracy, not NZ pressure.
Probably not going to happen, but I would drop Barnes and move McCabe to 12. That said, Beale is still clearly unfit and in no shape to be playing test match rugby. But the alternatives are few, please leave AAC at 13!
September 10th 2012 @ 10:32am
jameswm said | September 10th 2012 @ 10:32am | Report comment
I watched about 25 mins of that Harry and spent a lot of it focusing on Neville and Douglas.
September 10th 2012 @ 12:36pm
Harry said | September 10th 2012 @ 12:36pm | Report comment
And your thoughts as to who was better out of those two?
September 10th 2012 @ 1:11pm
jameswm said | September 10th 2012 @ 1:11pm | Report comment
See below a bit – in short Douglas clearly better