The blueprint for Super Rugby expansion?
By abnutta, 11 Sep 2012 abnutta is a Roar Guru
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Are you enjoying the NPC? I’m not. Do you like Super Rugby? I don’t.
I’m not referring to the on field action. In my judgement, the problem is the compromised nature of both competitions. Both competitions are robbed of the elements which, in my view, would make each other more appealing. Super Rugby has all the best players, while the NPC has tradition and ingrained fan identification.
Is there a model out there which appeases SANZAR’s desire for Super Rugby expansion, re-establishes the importance of traditional provincial representation (with all its incumbent geographic and historic associations), works within the fractured nature of the intra-hemisphere global season while at the same time reduces the overall travel workload on players?
The hard truth is that Test rugby is the main source of broadcast revenue for the respective SANZAR unions and so any restructure must attempt to at least work within a calendar that runs for 40 weeks (February/March to November/December), 14 of which are Test Match weekends for Australia and New Zealand due to the third Bledisloe Cup match and the desire to have a revenue shared fourth test in the Northern Hemisphere.
Sounds too hard doesn’t it? Well you’d be correct.
There is no such model that I’ve seen detailed which could accommodate all those differing and sometimes counter-intuitive concerns.
But I believe the following model comes close.
A Super Rugby structure divided into three closed conferences (i.e. no cross conference matches) of eight teams each:
Super Rugby South Africa
Western Province Stromers
Northern Transvaal Bulls
Transvaal Lions
Eastern Province Kings
Free State Cheetahs
Natal Sharks
Griqualand West Griquas
North West Province Leopards
Super Rugby Australia
Sydney Waratahs (North Harbour)
Sydney Fleet (East and South)
Sydney Rams (Greater West)
Brisbane Reds (North and West of Brisbane River)
Brisbane Colts (South and East of Brisbane River)
Canberra Brumbies
Perth Force
Melbourne Rebels
Super Rugby New Zealand
Auckland Blues
Waikato Chiefs
Taranaki Cowboys
Hawkes Bay Magpies
Wellington Hurricanes
Canterbury Crusaders
Otago Highlanders
Southland Stags
Based on the 2012 calendar, phase one of the season would require 12 weekends (Friday, 2nd March to Sunday, 20th May) for the first 12 rounds of conference play.
Phase two would require five weekends (Friday, 25th May to Sunday 24th June) for three June Test matches and bye weekends on either side of the Test window.
Phase three would require two weekends (Friday 29th June to Sunday 8th July) to complete the final two rounds of conference play.
Phase four would require two weekends (Friday, 13th July to Sunday 2second July) for a conference semi-final and final.
Phase five would require three weekends (Friday 27th July to Sunday, 12th August) for the inter-conference Super Rugby finals, whereby each conference’s finalists qualify for the same six team Super Rugby finals format we currently have.
Phase six would require nine weekends (Friday, 17th August to Sunday, 14th October) for the Rugby Championship – six match weekends and three bye weekends (one bye after the Super Rugby final and one each between the three blocks of two matches).
Phase seven would apply only to Australia and New Zealand and require two weekends (Friday, 19th October to Sunday, 28th October).
Phase eight would require five weekends (Friday, second November to Sunday, 25th November) consisting of a bye week immediately after the third Bledisloe Cup Test and four Northern Hemisphere Tests.
That’s a grand total of a 40 week season (second March to 25th November), which compares favourably to the 2010 season which (for New Zealand) kicked off on 12th February and ended on 28th November.
The content for broadcasters? SANZAR nations would play 34 Test matches. Super Rugby teams would provide 168 regular season matches, nine closed conference finals and five inter-conference finals.
The player workload? This is where it gets tricky.
A New Zealand or Australian player could possibly be required to play 14 rounds of Super Rugby, three June Tests, two conference finals, three inter-conference finals, six Rugby Championship Tests, one Bledisloe Cup Test and four Northern Hemisphere Tests.
That’s 33 matches, but sensible player management can offset such problems.
There would be many advantages to this structure.
A return to centre stage for traditional provincial teams and rivalries (possibly even a meaningful Ranfurly shield programme).
A flexible structure which would allow for the addition of conferences in new markets, without necessarily increasing the travel burden or even placing pressure on the time constraints.
A closed conference structure lessens the pain of spreading the talent, especially in Australia’s case. Weaker Australian teams would not be exposed to stronger New Zealand teams and vice versa. Broadcasters no longer have ‘dead air’ matches (e.g. Lions v Force) which engage neither the crowds nor the TV viewers.
Conversely, there would be a vast increase in local derby matches which attract both crowds and viewership. All 168 regular season matches would be played within each respective conference, massively reducing the travel burden on both the players and finances.
Established brands such as Chiefs and Crusaders can be appropriated by their respective provincial counterparts in order to maintain marketing continuity for broadcasters.
I’m informed that the South African market provides a large share of the value of the current broadcast deal in which Australia and New Zealand share equally. Therefore I would suggest that both of the Tasman conferences remain under the SANZAR umbrella of Super Rugby, as opposed to being independent conferences having to negotiate separate and possibly less lucrative deals.
One main issue has been the provincial versus regional debate, especially in New Zealand.
Will the elevation of only eight provincial unions at the expense of approximately 20 others have an irreversibly detrimental effect? Will the feared ‘urban drift’ cripple those provinces outside of the main centres? That’s a valid debate, which I will not dwell on here.
Do we stand idly by and accept a situation that satisfies few and disenchants many? Or do we share the pain and make a few minor compromises to implement a structure that will strengthen the game in its traditional markets and provide a springboard for further lucrative expansion?
Under the current structure we have many compromises and problems. This proposed structure would be no different in this respect. I’m sure Roarers will come up with a plethora of issues and concerns, and I welcome them in the search for a more perfect union.
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September 11th 2012 @ 11:01am
Angus said | September 11th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
I think dividing the ‘canes into three teams would be detrimental to their results. I’d drop either Taranaki or Hawkes bay from NZ conference and add either North Harbour or Counties Manukau
September 11th 2012 @ 1:56pm
Ryan said | September 11th 2012 @ 1:56pm | Report comment
You would drop one of two Premiership teams and bring in two Championship teams one of which would struggle to attract a crowd even if they had a wet T-Shirt competition at half time?????
September 11th 2012 @ 6:15pm
Angus said | September 11th 2012 @ 6:15pm | Report comment
Having grown up in Taranaki I just don’t think they have the population to support a team like Auckland does in the long term
September 11th 2012 @ 11:06am
nzmate said | September 11th 2012 @ 11:06am | Report comment
i think its got potential, but i would swap southland for counties manukau or north harbour based on population/player base, capturing more of the key auckland market and stadium size. I also believe there will be a requirement for some form of private investment as the crowds for some games would likely be less than what they are now. And whilst it may be difficult to achieve, some form of promotion relegation in the NZ conference so those teams that miss out have an opportunity – otherwise there will never be buy in from provinces.
September 11th 2012 @ 11:36am
klestical said | September 11th 2012 @ 11:36am | Report comment
This is my dream outcome in super rugby….you just have to look at the success of the Heineken cup to know that this works! What I would argue is to the get the Japanese League involved for your ‘Phase 5′ with this competition, which would outweigh any concerns broadcasters would have. How can they resist a quality competition with an extra 127 million people from the Japanese market.
Most roarers are going to cry out that Australian rugby cannot field these teams because of a ‘lack of depth’ scenario, but personally I would rather a better competition structure, than five teams playing in the most complicated tournament ever devised. Rugby is INTERNATIONAL – why can’t we fill a number of these positions with players from Japan, USA, Canada, Russia, Georgia, not to mention the Pacific Islands, which we should have been helping a long time ago.
They will also argue that Australia cannot support three teams in the ‘worlds most congested sporting market’. What I would argue here is to view these extra teams as ‘developmental areas’ – similar to what Ireland has done with Connacht. They are hear purely to create the competition we are longing. Put them in the smallest available stadiums and recognize that they are in the competition for the long term benefit of Southern Hemisphere rugby.
Unfortunately, our current administration are only looking at the short term monetary gains, to keep up with the huge gains in AFL and NRL. I worry that we will see 1 team from Japan, 1 team from USA, 1 team from Argentina. If this happens, I will be tuning off to rugby even more than I am now.
September 11th 2012 @ 10:24pm
nomis said | September 11th 2012 @ 10:24pm | Report comment
And further to your points klestical, for Australia, it wouldn’t have to be 8 new teams. It could be seen as just three more teams adding to the current SR teams
September 11th 2012 @ 11:49am
kingplaymaker said | September 11th 2012 @ 11:49am | Report comment
Good idea, although the teams wouldn’t be exactly those as Taranaki and Southland are too small to have their own teams and would have to combine with their neighbours Manawatu and Otago respectively.
Hawke’s Bay is also half the size of the Bay of Plenty, while Auckland would be split up into North Harbour, Blues and South Auckland.
In New Zealand you would have Otago/Southland, Wellington, Waikato, Canterbury, Blues, North Harbour, South Auckland, Manawatu/Taranaki with a 9th team to be added in Bay of Plenty, and next would be Hawke’s Bay. The last area that could have a team would be Northland. New Zealand has space for 11 safe Super team areas.
Plus there is no Gold Coast, Newcastle or Adelaide, so not very national for Australia. You would have Waratahs, Western Sydney, Perth, Melbourne, Canberra, Brisbane, Gold Coast, and then probably Newcastle although I would prefer Adelaide, followed by the third Sydney team. Those are the ideal Australian 10, with an 11th either in Brisbane as a second team, or northern QLD or Sunshine Coast.
September 11th 2012 @ 1:52pm
Brett McKay said | September 11th 2012 @ 1:52pm | Report comment
sorry KPM, I think I’ve mis-read you here – are you saying that Taranaki and Southland are too small and shouldn’t be in an eight team conference, but then two parapragphs later are saying NZ can handle 11 teams??
September 11th 2012 @ 10:11pm
kingplaymaker said | September 11th 2012 @ 10:11pm | Report comment
Brett Taranaki and Southland are around 100,000, which is why Southland is joined to Otago to create a large enough franchise area for the Highlanders.
The 11 areas I gave are those large enough to have teams at some point, in that the smallest two, Hawke’s Bay and Northland, are towards 200,000 or will be soon.
However, you have two more areas that are 500,000 (two division of Auckland), and two that are 300,000+ (Bay of Plenty and Taranaki PLUS Manawatu, Manawatu contributing 230,000 to a 340,000 total).
100,000 is too small in itself for a team, and Hawke’s Bay and Northland may also be too small in fact. The other four new possibilities look big enough though.
September 11th 2012 @ 1:55pm
Ryan said | September 11th 2012 @ 1:55pm | Report comment
KPM I really wish you would stop trying to tell us Kiwis what would and wouldn’t work with our teams and most of all which teams should and should not be cut let alone combined.
Case in Point TARANAKI
The main reason why they are not already playing Super rugby is simply due to the fact that the NZRU wanted to appease the ARU and allow AUstralia a 5th team into the competition to “even” it up.
The TRFU ticked all the boxes from the very begining of the second round of expansion talks and the NZRU never gave a valid reason as to why they would not include them, NEVER!.
Taranaki have the huge and vital financial baking of Stephen Jennings and he was / is prepared to bankroll the Naki upon entry into Super Rugby, however much like Owen Glenn who is now part owner of the Warriors he wanted control over the team much like the European Clubs do now and the NZRU are not prepared to allow this to happen. With this stance Owen Glenn took his money and a lot of it to league and to NZ Hockey where he is a major backer of the national teams.
Taranaki has talent it has a great business plan has the facilities and acadamies where they are already attracting the likes of Chinas national sevens team for development and others are sure to follow. They are one of if not the most soundly run provinces in the country which is amazing considering they are the smallest based on population in the top flight of NZ rugby.
In saying that with a fully professional team and the backing of Stephen Jennings the crowd numbers
Stephen Jennings is a multi millionaire ex pat who refuses to back any other team other than Taranaki with his substantial wealth, again something the NZRU took exception to, as they tried to get him to back another regioanal team, do note regional not provincial.
After this setback the TRFU put in a for a controlling bid of the Hurricanes but again were stonewalled by the NZRU because if they were going to put up the financial clout they wanted home games moved to Taranaki and rightfully so but again the NZRU did not want to cede controlling stakes.
I’m not sure if you watch many matches in the ITM cup but North Harbour and Counties are both in the 2nd Division and North Harbours crowds are appalling and that is being polite, counties aren’t much better however this year they should increase with the team travelling well so far.
In comparison 10,000 turned up to watch the Ranfurly Shield match with Tasman that equates to nearly 1 tenth of the entire population of the region, if you looked at just the city of New Plymouth it is a fifth of the population the equivalent of 60,00 plus turning up to watch the Lions (Wellington).
Taranaki if they were to combine with anyone it would most likely be Hawkes Bay and the would become a Bi-Coastal team however most of their home games would be played in New Plymouth. One thing that is certain is Taranaki is a leading light in NZ rugby and showing the big boys up in more ways than one.
Sadly population does not equate to success nor does it equate to crowds, this has been pointed out to you on many occassions on this forum however you continue to go down this path.
September 11th 2012 @ 11:56am
Ian Whitchurch said | September 11th 2012 @ 11:56am | Report comment
“why can’t we fill a number of these positions with players from Japan, USA, Canada, Russia, Georgia, not to mention the Pacific Islands, which we should have been helping a long time ago.”
Because 3 new professional teams in Australia will require at least $12m a year in external funding, unless you want to pay them at such a level that rugby league, Australian Rules or northern hemisphere club rugby goes ‘thank you, we’ll take them’.
While Australian rugby fans only turn up in numbers to Test matches, and Australian test match players demand and get much of this revenue, Australian rugby simply doesnt have the money to pay more professionals.
September 11th 2012 @ 12:11pm
klestical said | September 11th 2012 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
I also dislike this argument.
1. I refuse to believe that rugby, which has a history of being played in elite private schools is unable to find the money from people to finance this. Harold Mitchell is paying for the Melbourne Rebels. This may seem potentially ignorant, but I feel that there would be people out there willing to do the same for these extra teams.
2. Wouldn’t a new competition structure, with potentially huge broadcast value give the ARU the ability to finance these new teams?
3. Pacific Island Sevens Players get paid peanuts to play on the sevens tournament. I would bet you could pay them a salary lower than what the NRL offers and you would still get interested participants.
September 11th 2012 @ 10:31pm
nomis said | September 11th 2012 @ 10:31pm | Report comment
I agree Klestical, I don’t think financing three more teams in a closed conference should be seen as an insurmountable barrier to this idea.
September 11th 2012 @ 12:06pm
The Bush said | September 11th 2012 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
It’s not too bad, but I have a couple of problems;
1. Phase two (2) is a problem, where you stop for five (5) weeks, only to return for just two (2) weekends to complete the season. I’d rather we just started it earlier and got it out of the way or some other arrangement. I also think five (5) weeks off from the comp is simply too many.
2. How can you keep the current finalist structure in this tournament? How do you decided which teams finish one (1) through six (6)? Just on points in their own comps? With absolutely no cross-conference games you are giving teams in a strong conference even less chance of qualifying for the “finals” than they currently have.
I do like the general jist of what you are trying to achieve though.
* Just to clarify, why does Australia and New Zealand need two (2) weekends at the end there? Is that for the extra Bledisloe? Why two (2) weekends?
September 11th 2012 @ 10:35pm
nomis said | September 11th 2012 @ 10:35pm | Report comment
My question is, without cross-confernce games if a weaker team from AUS is in a weaker conference, is it really an advantage over a stronger team in a stronger conference? Having no inter-conference games during the regular season might actually make it fairer than currently, no?
September 12th 2012 @ 12:06am
abnutta said | September 12th 2012 @ 12:06am | Report comment
I hear exactly where you’re coming from. The problem is the June test window, which unfortunately is SET IN STONE by the IRB ie.1st weekend in June and the two following. 2 byes before and after allows for adequate test preparation and recovery.
The 2010 season started about 2 weeks earlier than the season I proposed so there’s a little wiggle room as far as time goes. There’s plenty of flexibility in this structure. As you say “some other arrangement”? Get rid of the June test byes? Get rid of the conference finals? There’s plenty of options.
“2. How can you keep the current finalist structure in this tournament?”
Draw of a hat? Them’s the breaks! As you can see, it’s not something I put much detail into. My only concern was to keep the inter-conference finals in a 3 week window. Although if you were to ditch the test byes/start earlier etc then a fair finals format can be produced. Perhaps we can copy something in the vein of the UEFA coefficient?
“Just to clarify, why does Australia and New Zealand need two (2) weekends at the end there? Is that for the extra Bledisloe? Why two (2) weekends?”
You got it. This year the last RC match is on October 06 and the 3rd BC is on October 20 – hence the 2 weekends, a bye week and a match week.
September 11th 2012 @ 12:13pm
kovana said | September 11th 2012 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
Great Idea..
However i would rather each conference has 6 teams/conference. With promotion and relegation.
For example using the Saffas with their premier division…
RSA
-Western Province Stromers
-Northern Transvaal Bulls
-Transvaal Lions
-Free State Cheetahs
-Natal Sharks
-Griqualand West Griquas
2nd division Saffa conference
-Eastern Province Kings
-North West Province Leopards
- Falcons
- Border bulldogs
- Griffons
- Boland caveliers
- SWD Eagles
- Pumas
NZ
- Auckland Blues
- Waikato Chiefs
- Taranaki Cowboys
- Wellington Hurricanes
- Canterbury Crusaders
- Otago Highlanders
AUS Conference
- Sydney Waratahs (North Harbour)
- Sydney Rams (Greater West)
- Brisbane Reds (North and West of Brisbane River)
- Canberra Brumbies
- Perth Force
- Melbourne Rebels
2ND DIVISION TRANS-TASMAN COMP (with Promotion/relegation)
- Brisbane Colts (South and East of Brisbane River)
- Sydney Fleet (East and South)
- Southland Stags
- Hawkes Bay Magpies
- North Harbour
- Counties
- BOP
- Manawatu
- Tasman Makos
- Northland
September 11th 2012 @ 2:27pm
biltongbek said | September 11th 2012 @ 2:27pm | Report comment
I like you idea to limit the number of teams that qualify, it will also take away the Super franchise situation. If teams in the lower divison know they can get into the super xv via promotion and relegation then there is somthing to play.
I especially like it as the first phase of the competition can then be finished in one go before the June tests series.
By doing it on this basis also means the entry of six teams means existing provincial structures in SA and NZ isn’t affected. australia can continue in their own time to develop more teams
September 12th 2012 @ 1:09am
abnutta said | September 12th 2012 @ 1:09am | Report comment
kovana,
yep valid ideas. My main aim was to get provinces back to centre stage. Even by putting 8 into SR, about 20 others miss out and so the best talent will inevitably migrate towards those 8. having only 6 would exacerbate the problem.
That’s something which a lot of kiwis complain about, which is why we have the 5 regional SR teams as a second rate compromise and an over inflated 14 team NPC which is almost sending the game broke.
That’s something which SARU has shown real leadership on by cutting the CC Premier division to only 6 teams. Although I’m informed that the CC Premier division has never been more than 8 teams anyway. If only the NZRU would show some balls.
September 12th 2012 @ 7:08am
Dasher said | September 12th 2012 @ 7:08am | Report comment
Six teams per conference definitely makes it more manageable.
September 11th 2012 @ 12:16pm
abnutta said | September 11th 2012 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
It appears I made the mistake that nomis didn’t and put the detail before the big picture.
The teams I chose for AUS were entirely plagiarised from sheek, so blame him.
The SAF teams were based on the (now) six SR bases and two extra who were recent participants in the Currie Cup.
As for NZL I think Auckland, Waikato, Canterbury, Otago and Wellington should explain themselves. Despite Otago’s recent woes, they have the facilities and the NZRU are not letting them go down the drain.
Taranaki, because they are a traditional regional rugby heartland, current Shield holders, and considered/bid for a 6th SR franchise already. Much of the same applies to Hawkes Bay and Southland. It also provides a 5 north-3 south split which I think is good for balance.
Another option could be to revert to the 2010 calendar. Start 1 week earlier, keep all 14 ITM teams and just play 1 round instead of home and away. That could easily work. Would also add to the sense of occasion when it comes to the old rivalries: Auckland v Canterbury, Otago v Southland, Otago v Canterbury, Auckland v Wellington, Taranaki v Hawkes Bay etc.
Finally I’ll say this. I don’t care one little bit which provinces make the cut and which don’t. As long as they play as provinces and not amalgamated regional teams.
September 11th 2012 @ 10:42pm
nomis said | September 11th 2012 @ 10:42pm | Report comment
Haha. yes! Going into detail about team names and locations can detract from the whole point you are trying to make about the tournament structure, I agree
Everyone gets bogged down on the detail rather than seeing the big picture that you want them to see.
January 30th 2013 @ 1:36pm
kingplaymaker said | January 30th 2013 @ 1:36pm | Report comment
abnutta, Bay of Plenty is triple the population of Taranaki, while if Auckland were divided in three each part would be five times the population of Taranaki. The area is far too small to support an elite team unless it combined with Manawatu. Look at the Highlanders, it requires the merger of comparably sized areas to Taranaki and Manawatu to sustain an elite team.
September 11th 2012 @ 12:25pm
sheek said | September 11th 2012 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
abnutta,
It’s obvious we agree on quite a number of issues.
However, one big no-no, is splitting the conferences for the June window tests. It didn’t work this year, & I think this particular part of super rugby is totally wrong.
The SR should be completely finalised before moving into inbound tests. Whether this means truncating SR or shifting inbound tests to july, one or the other must occur. But the worst outcome is splitting the SR season either side of the inbound tests.
in response to a question of yours on another thread, i worked out the total number of matches per player for the season I proposed, as follows:
1. Preseason: 3-4 matches
2. Super Rugby HC-style (2 pools x 8) & domestic parallels: 7-10 matches (incl. quarters, semis & final)
3. Tests (inbound, RC, outbound): 12 matches
4. APC/ARC, NPC, CC, CA (based on 8 teams each): 8-10 matches (incl. double-up derby, semis & final)
TOTAL: 30-36 matches per team/player
I believe that RUPA has an agreement with the ARU for a max of 35 matches per player per season. I would imagine that NZRU & SARU, & perhaps UAR, all have similar arrangements. So the number of matches is quite satisfactory.
Especially as its unlikely any player would appear in all 36 matches for country & province in any case.
And thanks for borrowing my Aussie teams. I know KPM is one who is impatient for expansion, but we must start small, & build slow. We don’t want the A-League scenario where 3 clubs have already bitten the dust in 7 seasons, while a 4th never made it to the start-line.
And I know abnutta & I are one on this – we want traditional & REAL provinces, or national clubs, playing each other, if & where possible. It’s also the message many fans are passing on.
September 11th 2012 @ 1:43pm
klestical said | September 11th 2012 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
sheek, I agree as well. I feel that the test window completely deflated the momentum of the super rugby season.
September 11th 2012 @ 11:18pm
nomis said | September 11th 2012 @ 11:18pm | Report comment
Yes, I agree Sheek about the June window. If only it could be moved more easily!
September 11th 2012 @ 11:38pm
nomis said | September 11th 2012 @ 11:38pm | Report comment
Sheek, while I prefer the idea of a single tournament so that there is enough time for a proper home and away for the domestic games, I really like the way you’ve worked hard to include a little of everything. While some can find it hard to get into a shorter tournament, it might do wonders to engage gen-y.
I presume you see the decrease in revenue from lesser content of SR, being made up with the domestic tournaments having a more prominent platform with all the international stars back in them. I think that could work.
Would you see the RC being brought fwd to follow directly on from the June inbounds?
September 12th 2012 @ 12:49am
abnutta said | September 12th 2012 @ 12:49am | Report comment
sheek,
I didn’t have a problem with the June break this year. Probably because I’m neither here nor there on Super Rugby as it currently stands. I may feel differently about it if it were real teams
When I ran my proposal past the calendar I was shocked that the playing window was as large as it was. I had notions of a more than decent off season. That went out the window and I ended up with a season only marginally shorter (by 2 weeks) than the seasons of recent vintage. Granted I have worked in a few more rest weeks than perhaps yours or other season models may have.
eg. I worked in the 5 week June window allowing for adequate test preparation and recovery and even flirted with the idea that tour matches could be played in this window. But that’s a minor detail.
The other thing is unfortunately, try as you may, the June (3) test window isn’t going anywhere. Nor is there going to be a reduction in the amount of tests played by NZL in particular.
Do you recall the furore caused by the NZRU when they suggested they would not enter RWC 2015 because they were unable to host revenue raising test matches in RWC years. Test rugby is the revenue raiser BY FAR. That’s why we have 3 BC tests. That’s why the NZRU tacks on a 4th test in the NH (they’re only committed to 3 by the IRB). They negotiate a 4th test with either Wales/England etc and share the gate takings which the hosts are not obliged to do for the first 3 tests.
September 11th 2012 @ 12:50pm
nk7792 said | September 11th 2012 @ 12:50pm | Report comment
I legitimately wrote the exact same (well not exactly the same, but very similar) article as this last night with a view on some of the ideas you and other roarers had put forward recently.
September 11th 2012 @ 12:52pm
sheek said | September 11th 2012 @ 12:52pm | Report comment
nk7792,
Well done! Put it out there, the more the merrier…..