Sack the IRB over Rugby Championship referees
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It’s high time SANZAR used its considerable clout to take over Rugby Championship referee appointments from the toothless IRB.
The rubbish dished up by northern hemisphere refs so far has been a blight on the game. The players, fans, and sponsors deserve better.
It stands to reason southern hemisphere refs are better-equipped for internationals after controlling Super Rugby, the toughest provincial rugby tournament in the world, featuring the three top-ranked countries in world rugby.
What continues to amaze is the general apathy by rugby fans to accept such rubbish as part of the scene.
Bollocks.
The most important person on the rugby paddock is the referee, who can make or break a game. But until those northern hemisphere refs accept they should be the 31st on the field, and not self-appointed No 1, there will always be this unacceptable clash.
Of the 12 Rugby Championship games, northern hemisphere refs have been, or will be, in charge of eight.
Farcical. A clear case of jobs for the boys.
Irishman Alain Rolland tops the list with three. He has already controlled the Wallabies-All Blacks tournament opener, and still has the Boks-Pumas, and Boks-All Blacks games to go.
So far, his rating is 4/10 max.
Welshman Nigel Owens has already had his two with the Wallabies against the All Blacks and Boks. Rating 3/10.
Frenchman Romain Poite controlled the All Blacks-Pumas game. Rating 3/10.
All three have suffered from the same shortcomings – inconsistency over advantage, scrummaging, and missing glaring offsides and knock ons.
And they lose any respect by constantly barking at the players like over zealous school-teachers, and persistent whistle-blowing.
The best referee so far by the length of the straight has been Steve Walsh, Kiwi-born-and-bred who moved across the ditch in 2009, and now represents the ARU.
Walsh has controlled his two, both between the Boks and Pumas, home and away.
He stands no nonsense, he’s strong in his rulings, and more importantly, he’s consistent. Rating 8/10.
In my book he’s taken over as the world’s best from South African Craig Joubert who will make his one and only Rugby Championship appearance with the Pumas-Wallaby game in Rosario.
That in itself is a disgraceful IRB decision. That the last Rugby World Cup final referee, in his own hemisphere, is granted just one game from 12 is also farcical, when inferior northern hemisphere refs like Rolland has three, and Owens two.
Still to come from the north, Englishman Wayne Barnes, the best of a bad bunch, and Irishman George Clancy, plus South African Jaco Peyper.
So the message is loud and clear for SANZAR to stand alone on this vital issue, and be in charge of their own domain.
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September 13th 2012 @ 5:46am
kingplaymaker said | September 13th 2012 @ 5:46am | Report comment
Agreed, a case of the northern hemisphere-dominated IRB stamping its mark on the south, and forcing boring refereeing on it in order to ruin its tournament.
September 13th 2012 @ 8:21am
mania said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:21am | Report comment
gotta disagree KPM
its pretty simplistic saying that SH is better than NH. comparing referees, dont go there. other than the SA ref’s and one lonely steveWalsh SH has nothing to crow about.
say what u will about allainRolland and nigelOwens they are not bias. they ref both teams equally and thats all you can ask from a ref.
we need to be exposed to NH refs and their styles and interpretations. else we’ll go on EOY tour and find out the hard way. we should be welcoming as many opportunities as possible to have different refs. it will give the captains better experience on how to run tactics and strategies
September 13th 2012 @ 12:47pm
Kuruki said | September 13th 2012 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
I disagree. Why would we want to ruin the spectacle of our competition only to have a better understanding in the NH which we dominate anyway?. The IRB are scared of the SH dominance and style of play.
October 5th 2012 @ 9:36am
Ai Rui Sheng said | October 5th 2012 @ 9:36am | Report comment
It is not just the NH dominated IRB but the whitey UK dominated IRB. The IRB is a racially based Gerrymander.The UK, one country, gets 52 times the votes of non-white Samoa, Fiji and Tonga. The Bleatingish and Oilyish Isles get a third more votes than the only partly white SANZAR countries combined, or four times the votes of the partly white RSA, Oz and NZ.
China, with more than 1,000,000 players, gets no vote, although nearer to white than some.
The UK wants the UK to win the IRB RWC Lottery every four years. Hence referees at each drawing are mostly from the UK. QED Development of racially inferior or racially contaminated referees is not on the agenda. Similarly when UK provinces, like Scotland, tour the superior SH, teams are weakened so that the Scots can win and improve their IRB ranking. Scheduling beat the mostly but not all white Australians. The Pumas were denied their best selections by European clubs and top Pacific Island players were paid by the Bleatingish not to play against Scotland. Additionally, the Scots were blatantly aided by what the Samoan PM described as “Racist Decisions”.
The performance of the Barnes Owens combination should be investigated by the fraud squad. All those intelligent bettors who invested in the Pumas against the Wallabies were cheated out of their money.The only outcry I have witnessed on this was on NZ television. I guess NZ has more wise punters; if I may be excused for an apparent oxymoron.
Now the best two teams in the world have to put up with a French speaking Celt who likes his own voice almost as much as Whiney Barnes does.
Love the Shaghai Doctor
October 5th 2012 @ 10:28am
HardcorePrawn said | October 5th 2012 @ 10:28am | Report comment
Interesting that you cite racism in your argument whilst using the terms ‘whitey’, ‘Bleatingish’ and ‘Oilyish’, before then making a disparaging comment about New Zealanders and making a marked reference to Alain Rolland’s French ancestry.
You’re not really going to get your point across about racism by using racism yourself.
September 13th 2012 @ 5:56am
Who Needs Melon said | September 13th 2012 @ 5:56am | Report comment
I thought there had actually been surprisingly little mention of the refereeing on these forums throughout this tournament. I have to admit, i havent seen every match though. There seemed to be far more howlers during the Super rugby to me. A few examples of poor refereeing decisions would help to back up the vehemently anti-NH viewpoints.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:16am
biltongbek said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:16am | Report comment
I think the poor performances of the teams took most of the attention away from the referees.
September 13th 2012 @ 8:46am
ohtani's jacket said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:46am | Report comment
Which is what Lord would be writing about if he wasn’t such a blowhard.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:10am
Jerry said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:10am | Report comment
Who are these outstanding SH referees who are missing out? SA has a few decent refs but NZ and Aus are sorely lacking in competent refs with much in the way of test experience.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:17am
Football United said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:17am | Report comment
So who are these outstanding SH refs? Will they please stand up because they haven’t recently. I don’t care if refs blow a lot. If a law has been broken then action MUST be taken by a referee, otherwise it is farcical. If players keep offending then just teach them a lesson and send them off. There should be no ifs or buts, the laws of the game must be upheld.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:33am
kingplaymaker said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:33am | Report comment
You have a good example in the article. Steve Walsh is not only technically good but allows a running game to be played.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:53am
Jerry said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:53am | Report comment
So that’s a grand total of one decent non South African SH ref.
And let’s face it, despite his officially Australian status, he couldn’t be in charge of a fixture involving NZ without a huge public outcry so basically he can only do Pumas vs Springboks matches in the RC.
September 13th 2012 @ 5:44pm
Charging Rhino said | September 13th 2012 @ 5:44pm | Report comment
Yep, one decent non South African SH ref, in Steve Welsh.
Which means that the Boks unfortunately are always at a disadvantage by not being reffed by the best refs out there as the best refs are South Africans. Which sux for them and their supporters. But hey I’m not trying to moan but just raising a point. If Joubert was a neutral ref I for one would love to have him take charge of a Boks game. Obviously it can’t happen….
The only way it will change is by other SH and NH refs upping their game
September 13th 2012 @ 8:00am
David Lord said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:00am | Report comment
Jerry and FU, Kiwi Glen Jackson is a standout SH ref. He only gave up playing for Saracens in 2010, but the system has kept him down. Keith Brown is another Kiwi deserving better recognition, Mark Lawrence and Marius Jonker are both better South African refs than Jaco Peyper, and given the chance Australian refs Ian Smith and Andrew Lees would be better than any NH refs.
September 13th 2012 @ 8:14am
Hansie said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:14am | Report comment
David, you need to do some research. Mark Lawrence has retired from refereeing test match rugby. And really, Andrew Lees better than any northern hemisphere ref, including Alain Rolland who has refereed a world cup final? Your rant would benefit from some facts.
http://www.sarugby.net/article.aspx?category=sarugby&id=1030951
September 13th 2012 @ 8:23am
joeb said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:23am | Report comment
Well, he’ll definitely be missed as he was fair and square, a terrific ref.
September 13th 2012 @ 8:25am
mania said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:25am | Report comment
agree with hansie here lord. markLawrence is the best but is retired. andrewLees and ianSmith? never heard of them.
alainRolland is a good ref. even when he sent off the welsh captain at the WC was an example of gopdd refereeing.
glenJackson hasnt been proven enough. chirsPolock is injured. keithBrown i wouldnt trust at test level yet.
September 13th 2012 @ 4:55pm
Cattledog said | September 13th 2012 @ 4:55pm | Report comment
Sending off the Welsh captain was an example of good refereeing. Pull the other one, Mania, it’s got bells on it…
September 13th 2012 @ 6:14pm
Jutsie said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:14pm | Report comment
Not a huge fan of roilland in general but It was def the right call, and took guts to make it in such a crucial game. Dont fall for the welsh spin on the incident, warbuton deserved a red for that tackle and only has himself to blame. It may have been an accident but was lucky not to cause some serious damage the french bloke.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:29pm
Cattledog said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:29pm | Report comment
No Welsh spin at all, Jutsie. I saw it, and whilst it may have deserved a red card, unless ALL such tackles are red carded, then it was, in the context of the game, a poor referee decision. Consistency is all we ask. I’ve already written an article concerning cards and their uses so no need to re-hash it here.
September 13th 2012 @ 8:32pm
Jutsie said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:32pm | Report comment
Yes I remember your article now and I agree with most of it, I agree we shouldnt derail the main topic here. Just one point I think its not poor reffing by rolland, its poor reffing by all the blokes who have ignored tackles of similar impact previously.
September 16th 2012 @ 5:49pm
Parkle said | September 16th 2012 @ 5:49pm | Report comment
Mania and Hansie, you obviously haven’t watched any 7′s. Andrew Lees was the World No1 7s ref in 2011 and has reffed two Super Rugby games in 2012. You will hear more of him and Smith – if they are given the opportunities. Reread what Lord said ‘given a chance…..’
September 13th 2012 @ 8:43am
Andrew C (waikato) said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:43am | Report comment
David, I agree that Glen is a fine up-and-coming referee from NZ……….. gees, we’re in poverty streets in that regard. I shudder everytime I see Bryce Lawrence appointed for any game; Steve Walsh is as consistent as mud, but can be now termed an Orstralian , so that’s your problem.
Some of those South african referees are very good (with the clear exception of Kaplan who tends towards pendantic !!). ……………….. you mention WAYNE BARNES in despatches as the best of the Brits – can’t agree at all, He’s bloody terrible, won’t play ‘advantage’ , dishes out penalties galore (the one exception being the 2007 RWC – France v’s NZ game when he muted his whistle for the entire 2nd half in favour of Les Frogs !!! ggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrr, don’t mention that creep Barnes in NZers presence, mate )
September 13th 2012 @ 8:54am
Atawhai Drive said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:54am | Report comment
Glen Jackson has plenty of potential, and it’s good to see the system looking after him, bringing him through steadily rather than throwing him to the wolves.
September 13th 2012 @ 8:57am
Brett McKay said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:57am | Report comment
and likewise AD, Andew Lees only did his first SR game in the second half of this season..
September 13th 2012 @ 12:32pm
apelu said | September 13th 2012 @ 12:32pm | Report comment
Brett, i watched a game or two Andrew Lee did, and i have to say he was far better than Yonker and many other who havd been running around with a whistle for years. And i would say hae to say that if he is good enough, then je should be given more game times, and a test. One does not gain experience unless given the opportunity.
September 13th 2012 @ 12:46pm
Brett McKay said | September 13th 2012 @ 12:46pm | Report comment
apelu, I’m sure I saw on the line for one of TRC games already, so the opportunities are coming. I agree, he’s a good up-and-coming ref..
September 13th 2012 @ 8:55am
Jerry said | September 13th 2012 @ 8:55am | Report comment
The system has kept Glen Jackson down? What a ludicrous thing to say – how many refs would be awarded a Super Rugby fixture within a year of picking up the whistle?
September 13th 2012 @ 6:19am
moaman said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:19am | Report comment
I have to agree with Melon & Jerry here. Surely we want the BEST refs available–who cares if they hail from Timaru or Timbuctoo?
Whilst I find Nigel Owen’s voice grates—I was grudgingly impressed with his handling of the ABs match. If commentators insist on slating Refs–I wish they would provide some actual reasoned argument and not merely an arbitrary “3/10 max”. Does the “max” imply a bit of give and take?
September 13th 2012 @ 6:28am
joeb said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:28am | Report comment
i used to like Mark Lawrence, and Marius Jonker, both RSA… they’ve disappeared off the landscape practically.
“All three [Alain Rolland; Nigel Owens; Romain Poite] have suffered from the same shortcomings – inconsistency over advantage, scrummaging, and ‘missing glaring offsides’ and knock ons.”
So it wasn’t my faltering eyesight after all, thankfully.
September 13th 2012 @ 6:31am
nickoldschool said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:31am | Report comment
It’s been a while (1-2 days) since we had an article from one of our ‘experts’ about the superiority of the southern hemisphere over the north. How refreshing.
The same SH refs who were ‘biased’ or ‘not neutral enough’ during the SR season are now hailed as the best in the world.
September 13th 2012 @ 7:14am
beserious said | September 13th 2012 @ 7:14am | Report comment
There are hardly any SH referees because of the 3N only SA produces good ones and of course the ANZACs couldn’t have the “yarpies” running the show regardless of how genuinely objective they may be.
Walsh is the exception but while he has produced better than his usual average standard from years one by he has been no better than the NH and SA refs on show.
I’m afraid this is just an attempt to shift the blame to referees for the stultified rugby the 4N have produced in the RC thus far.
The real problem of course is Australia and New Zealand are incapable of producing top class elite referees. It would perhaps be worth looking into the reasons why – perhaps they’re too one-eyed to provide any balance? or perhaps they get bullied into making mistakes by a one-eyed critical media? whatever the reasons, it’s time to get used to it because unless you want all your refs to come from South Africa, NH refs are the only alternative.
September 13th 2012 @ 7:21am
The Grafter said | September 13th 2012 @ 7:21am | Report comment
Steve Walsh appears to have gone up in peoples estimations since he moved to Australia 3 years ago.
Ive rated him over the past 6-7 years (I can remember some shockers early on when he he had Jnr after his name), but to put himm in front of Joubert is a big call.
Ive also thought having the NH refereeing style during TRC has stymied alot of the play.
September 13th 2012 @ 7:25am
kingplaymaker said | September 13th 2012 @ 7:25am | Report comment
It’s not a big call, he has been the best referee this season.
September 13th 2012 @ 9:11am
The Grafter said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:11am | Report comment
In your opinion KPM……..
September 13th 2012 @ 9:28am
Shop said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:28am | Report comment
I’m told it has a lot to do with him giving up the booze, which I think is why he left NZ in the first place.
(Correct me if I’m wrong).
September 13th 2012 @ 11:54am
The Grafter said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:54am | Report comment
And the break up with his ex Mel Robinson I think shop.
September 13th 2012 @ 11:55am
mania said | September 13th 2012 @ 11:55am | Report comment
cant stand melRobinson. when cullen was coming back from injury she said he was past it and that leonMcDonald and benBlair were better. puhLease
September 13th 2012 @ 6:13pm
The Grafter said | September 13th 2012 @ 6:13pm | Report comment
Totally agree Mania. A little like John Mitchel dropping the legand for ‘not carrying the ball correctly’ for the 03 World Cup. Wasnt that a disaster (along with him dropping Oliver, Mertens, Maxwell, Raindall. Only 300 odd test caps left in NZ)
September 13th 2012 @ 7:41am
Handles said | September 13th 2012 @ 7:41am | Report comment
What I would like to see is an open, honest appraisal of each referee’s performance, issued the week after the game by Paddy O’Brien’s team. So much of the public comment is completely off beam, and the loudest voices often seem to carry the day.
Ultimately, most of us accept that refereeing 30 fully professional rugby players over 80 minutes would be a challenge, and the chances of anybody being 100% correct are pretty slim. If the refs and their organisation had the balls to come out and say what the overall accuracy of each performance was, which decisions he got wrong, and which he got right, wouldn’t a lot of this angst disappear?
IT might also lead to central refs demanding support from their touchies, and then paying attention when they do get it. I get a strong feeling now that some of them think the assistant is there to hold the flag up and report punches, so they ignore every other piece of advice.
September 13th 2012 @ 9:43am
Jerry said | September 13th 2012 @ 9:43am | Report comment
Paddy O’Brien isn’t in charge of refs anymore. Joel Jutge is the new head ref.