Are cultural affiliations still holding back Australian football?
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A loss to Jordan in the latest World Cup Qualifying campaign has been the final kick in the guts for many Australian football supporters, with calls for change vented in anger at almost all involved.
However, as Australia continues to struggle at the demise of its ‘golden era’, what is holding us back to the point where many fans see recent results as a backwards step?
To put the progress of Australian football development into context, I believe it is important to recognise the Socceroos ‘golden generation’ as exactly that. A team consisting of various world-class players who developed within an amateur national sport.
This was not the ideal footballing nation for any player to become a world-class athlete, making the plights of the Viduka, Kewell, Schwarzer, Emerton and more recently Cahill so impressive.
So as the next generation struggle to cope with the game at an international level, where does the gap in Australia’s footballing development lie?
Australia’s grassroots football is in good shape in terms of numbers, with the highest participation for an organised sport.
The common move from players in local clubs is up to the district representative side and possibly state league teams, many of which still hold strong cultural links.
In being involved and attending games within these culture-strong clubs, passion for football is arguably unmatched. However, the development links many of these state clubs have with the A-League are questionable at best.
The purpose of this article is not to single out or point fingers at any clubs but merely to ask the question, so I will not proceed to name any clubs.
In rugby league (as one example), there is a natural progression right up to the NRL division. However this gap in Australian football seems to be holding back the development of our up and coming generations, hurting the (potential) quality of the A-League.
In some cases, state premier league clubs have seemingly built an elite development framework completely within their club, where the A-League is not recognised as a future step, instead Europe the next option.
And to be honest, for many individual players, they will most probably benefit more from those experiences abroad.
However, until these clubs accept a Football Federation Australia lead structure where they are identified as feeder clubs to the A-League (as THE premier level), the development of Australia’s next generation of Socceroos may struggle to reach the expectations of our passionate fans.
Can we afford to wait until the next golden generation?
The same concept can be applied to the fans of these state league teams. Now please don’t get me wrong, I think the passion for these local clubs is fantastic (despite the work of a very small proportion of idiots), however these fans through general discussions are not accepting of the A-League or an A-League team.
One would think the state of Australia’s football affairs could only benefit from a joint focus from the nation’s football supporters, however the strong cultural links to other clubs make this a difficult task.
As an Australian football supporter with a cultural background myself, I am not criticising cultural links, however I wonder whether a greater focus on Australian football as a whole instead of the colours of a club’s flag could get Australia onto that next level of international competition.
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September 14th 2012 @ 12:00pm
langou said | September 14th 2012 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
Are we going to react this way every single time we lose a world cup qualifier?
September 14th 2012 @ 12:13pm
Lucan said | September 14th 2012 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
It would be an ideal world where everyone gets along. Sadly, it isn’t an ideal world. Some parties have been slighted, some parties perceive to be slighted. There are groups untrusting of each other, many with good reason.
It will take a substantial leap of faith for one to put aside its gripes and embrace the other.
This is a two-way street, not just the clubs with “cultural links” needing to change their attitude.
September 14th 2012 @ 1:16pm
Savvas Tzionis said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:16pm | Report comment
Lucan, your response is far more measured than mine would have been.
September 14th 2012 @ 1:29pm
Nic Giannetta said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:29pm | Report comment
Agreed. All parties changing their attitudes and focusing on their roles within a National franework can only improve the quality of development coming through.
September 14th 2012 @ 1:41pm
Nic Giannetta said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:41pm | Report comment
However as you mentioned, some parties have vested interest in not subscribing to such a system. Which makes the situation very tough to find a realistic solution.
September 14th 2012 @ 1:23pm
John said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:23pm | Report comment
“As an Australian football supporter with a cultural background myself,”
What’s that supposed to mean. If you’re Anglo-Saxon / Anglo Celtic you don’t have a “cultural background.” If you’re Anglo-Saxon / Anglo Celtic your not part of multi-cultural Australia. If you’re Anglo-Saxon / Anglo Celtic you have no culture.
I am a little disappointed when some split Australia into two groups. 1) Anglo Australia and non-Anglo ‘multi cultural’ Australia.
September 14th 2012 @ 1:33pm
Nic Giannetta said | September 14th 2012 @ 1:33pm | Report comment
Fair point. The reason it was left broad is I did not wish to bring in certain Nationalities and associated clubs into the articles, for obvious reasons.
September 14th 2012 @ 3:59pm
TC said | September 14th 2012 @ 3:59pm | Report comment
John
Only wogs have culture.
All skips are just bogans.
TC
September 14th 2012 @ 2:26pm
Newcastle Michael said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:26pm | Report comment
Have you seen what Northern NSW Football has recently done? Tying in the NNSW youth development league with the Jets? That’s real progress. In 10 years, with more progress like that in other regions, you should see stronger and more coherent youth development which should feed innto the national team.
September 14th 2012 @ 2:53pm
Nic Giannetta said | September 14th 2012 @ 2:53pm | Report comment
Definately a great example of successful structure. Would be good to see this more widespread
September 15th 2012 @ 12:44am
Griffo said | September 15th 2012 @ 12:44am | Report comment
Mariners have been doing this but at a regional level rather than a state fed level, but more A-League clubs doing this and soon will only accelerate and grow the talent pool available to the A-League and future national teams.
I had an interesting conversation last weekend where it was said that NNSWF are very restrictive on what the elite youth can and can’t do basically to the detriment of talented players: the development between the Jets, NNSWF and FFA is going to be looked at with interest within as well as from the outside.
Overall I think that the football structure and administration here is in transition between the legacy of the past structure and a unified, nationally focussed structure: the national body is trying to connect its future vision to those still moving off on different tangents. Everyone subscribing to a national vision is a long way off it seems but would drive youth development forward in leaps and bounds.
September 14th 2012 @ 3:38pm
Soccerlogic said | September 14th 2012 @ 3:38pm | Report comment
So what does cultural affiliation have to do with anything?
All I got from this article is: Local clubs are passionate; have elite development programs with ties to Europe and have little connection to a-league clubs formed to replace them…
The problem isn’t the cultural clubs, it is how they are dealt with. They deserve more respect.
If you ask me the problem in the A-League is that clubs don’t do enough to unearth local talent and will more likely sign young Aussies from abroad (Julius Davis) than to look in their own backyards!
September 14th 2012 @ 4:01pm
TC said | September 14th 2012 @ 4:01pm | Report comment
The cultural clubs?
Didn’t they sing: “Do you really want to hurt me?”
September 14th 2012 @ 4:08pm
Titus said | September 14th 2012 @ 4:08pm | Report comment
I think that was Joe Dolce.
September 14th 2012 @ 3:59pm
crip said | September 14th 2012 @ 3:59pm | Report comment
Canberra needs a team and that’s what I’m waiting for before I follow the A League.
September 14th 2012 @ 4:24pm
turbodewd said | September 14th 2012 @ 4:24pm | Report comment
Fair point. Why tiny Townsville gets a team before Canberra Ill never know. Canberra-Qbyn is 400,000 and Townsville is under 200,000.
September 15th 2012 @ 12:53pm
Mantis said | September 15th 2012 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
Cant wait for Canberra to get a look in. We have had a good bid for a number of years and 2000+ members signed up to a team that doesnt exist, paying 200 (correct me if im wrong) dollars each. Slavich has said the bid has been put on the backfoot now by the FFA. There is also no competition for the majority of the season, and given the success of Canberra United and the AIS in our backyard, I cant understand why we havent got a team yet.
September 19th 2012 @ 9:05am
mahony said | September 19th 2012 @ 9:05am | Report comment
Thanks for that. See you at the Raiders then I guess…
September 14th 2012 @ 4:33pm
Vas Venkatramani said | September 14th 2012 @ 4:33pm | Report comment
It goes back to what is fast developing into a culture of entitlement here in Australia.
Since 1945, Australia has not had to fight for its borders. Throughout its modern (post 1788) history, it has enjoyed a largely peaceful society that due to its isolation, does not have a consistent cultural link to what is happening in the rest of the world. In short, Australia has many things, but sadly lacks an important one: context.
Therefore, we attach greater importance to one aspect of our society: sport, which tends to make us poor losers. For those who doubt me saying that all countries do it, they usually centre their attention on one or two specific sports. It seems we are easy to get up in arms on a great many sports, be it cricket, football, league, union, swimming, tennis etc.
The context is that a winner and a loser is inevitable in sport. Because of our lack of context, or our historical stereotypes, we tend to look at a nation like Jordan as easybeats, without ever considering the machinations in which they might actually have surpassed us in ability.
If we fail to make the World Cup, I expect whingeing, inquiries and essentially a witchhunt that will ask all questions without acknowledging one crucial point: maybe other countries just might be better at the time. If we did that, then all those inquiries may actually deliver a better outcome.
September 19th 2012 @ 1:22pm
Disco said | September 19th 2012 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
Well said.
It brings to mind sporting teams seeking context through associating themselves with military deeds; for example the Australian cricket team’s cringeworthy obsession with Gallipoli and digger spirit.
September 14th 2012 @ 5:26pm
Bondy. said | September 14th 2012 @ 5:26pm | Report comment
As a football supporter we’ve never been taken seriously as a sport in this country and still to this day people want it seen as a amatreur sport it helps other sports who are “so called ” more pro even with the likes of a D Piero signing.
What cant be underestimated in this country is the power of tv and sport you think of the sports you know who are on FTA tv afl/nrl/cricket v8 super cars, netball,cycling ,life saving, football NO has it ever really been on fta no,has the sport been really that bad a administered to not be seen on fta a sport most australians can actually associate themselves with nationally.How many people would follow a afl or nrl club nationally”heeps yeah” and A League supporters not that many,would fta tv have anything to do with that at all plenty,there was just an olymics football is a sport there wasnt seen on fta’s.
A sport like Rugby League again is geared towards tv all the kids see the sport and players and want to be on tv playing sport idolising their heroes with their favourite club ,how can you idolise people where in which you cant see them for a professional aspect to the game.
I could go on for hours really.
September 14th 2012 @ 9:39pm
mahony said | September 14th 2012 @ 9:39pm | Report comment
Please don’t….
September 14th 2012 @ 11:15pm
James D said | September 14th 2012 @ 11:15pm | Report comment
mate i support rugby league and football but i wouldn’t have a clue about who plays for sydney fc they’re never on fta tv only the world game shows any a-league highlights, there was 0 promotion last season and i watched no matches because its all on foxtel and if anyone asks why i dont go to the games well when there is such little coverage of your team on tv its hard to feel a part of the team and hence my interest is swayed away to cricket or the tennis etc and im fairly certain that is the case for numerous amount of fans
September 15th 2012 @ 10:38pm
Philip said | September 15th 2012 @ 10:38pm | Report comment
James, from what you’ve written i would say you dont support football at all. You don’t need fta to know who plays for Syd Fc – what about the newspapers or the internet? I suppose you’ve never heard of Emerton or some new guy who’s coming called Del Piero? And you don’t get to “feel part of the team” just by watching on TV. You feel part of the team by getting off your back side and getting down to the ground every time your team plays at home regardless of fta.
September 14th 2012 @ 11:12pm
Floyd Calhoun said | September 14th 2012 @ 11:12pm | Report comment
Nic, I understood your reference to ‘cultural affiliations’ to mean the legacy of the old Marconi, Melbourne Croatia, type thing. Ie. The ethnically based clubs that once dominated Aust football. I take it that you maintain that they still exert influence at the sub-A-League level, and that’s no doubt true. I’m not sure that’s necessarily a bad thing though, because without them, we wouldn’t have got this far. Newcastle Michael is right about his region as well. On a completely different note, why is it that Australian Rules has a disproportionate number of good players of Italian descent than say, Greek or Croatian background? A topic for another day, but I’ve always wondered.
September 15th 2012 @ 11:01am
TC said | September 15th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
I’m not aware of any ethnic club having ever dominated Australian Football.
TC
September 15th 2012 @ 5:58pm
william 11 said | September 15th 2012 @ 5:58pm | Report comment
one ,Discrimination by the media, two bad markereting byour sport leaders , EG Westfield Matildas , go out in the street and ask who thet are, even our junior players. lack of senior teams for juniors to play in eg we have 8 teams in the comp we dont want to upet the apple cart (they wont last) so kids go play other sports. AND YES THERE IS A CULTURAAL thing WOGSplay soccer ,soccer? real meb play rugby and AUSTRALIANS PLAY THE AUSTRALIA GAME A.F.L.
just one asl all media to give us even time, and they will laugh in your face.
September 15th 2012 @ 6:10pm
Bondy. said | September 15th 2012 @ 6:10pm | Report comment
Whats he saying Cattery.