Time for Steyn to make way for Goosen
By biltongbek, 16 Sep 2012 biltongbek is a Roar Guru & Live Blogger
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“I will coach my players into form,” the now fast becoming infamous words of Heyneke Meyer.
Morne Steyn has been a bone of contention since his call up for the English test series in June of this year, he showed poor form during the first half of the Super Rugby and as much as he tried, showed no improvement over the latter part either.
Although the Springboks won their first two Tests during that series, it was clear that Morne Steyn – usually a very accurate goal kicker – had lost form.
Forget for a moment that he stands too deep and offers no threat on attack, forget for a moment that he doesn’t control his backline with any effectiveness, forget for a moment that he does not possess the necessary pace to hit a gap and above all forget for a moment that he offers little if not no variation or unpredictability.
He is there to kick goals. He has to be – when your game plan does not utilise front-foot ball, counterattack ball or first phase ball to attack defences, then you are pretty much reliant on your goal kicker to provide the goods.
June 9, 2012 England
Steyn kicks 4/7 scoring 12 points missing 7
June 16, 2012 England
Steyn kicks 5/9 scoring 13 points missing 10
June 23, 2012 England
Steyn kicks 3/6 scoring 9 points missing 8
August 18, 2012 Argentina
Steyn kicks 5/5 scoring 12 points
August 25, 2012 Argentina
Steyn kicks 4/6 scoring 11 points missing 6
September 8, 2012 Australia
Steyn kicks 3/4 scoring 8 missing 3
September 15, 2012 New Zealand
Steyn kicks 1/5 scoring 3 points missing 11
Total kicking accuracy for the season 25/42 – 59.5%
Is there any international coach who would persist with a goal kicker that has this record?
In fact, is there any international coach who would persist with a goal kicker half this timeframe?
Every time criticism is levied towards Morne Steyn, staunch Steyn supporters will remind us how many games has Morne Steyn actually won for the Springboks. Well, err, not really that many – 23/41 with two draws – not a stellar record by any means.
The counter argument would be that the South African game plan is outdated and it shouldn’t all be put at Morne Steyn’s feet. Fair enough, but then let’s get back to the main reason he is in team team, goal kicking.
A goal kicker must kick at least 80% of his kicks to be considered of international standard. Considering Steyn had an accuracy of 90% during the 2011 Rugby World Cup, then 59.5% is a clear indication that his form has disappeared.
The game plan surely cannot be laid at Steyn’s feet, however the execution of his kicks being too deep for wings to chase can, as can the fact that he plays far behind the advantage line and has shown no ability to get his outside backs onto the advantage, as well as the fact often he isn’t in position to be the first receiver to control play as well.
Johan Goosen, in 30 minutes of play during the Australian and New Zealand encounters, has shown immediate improvement in South Africa’s attack. There seems to have been more urgency, cleaner and quicker hands and an ability to gain forward momentum. Goosen has also shown in the little time he has had that he can step, break tackles and offload.
What is Meyer waiting for?
Goosen may be low on game time, but he didn’t look out of his depth against Australia or New Zealand, and in my view the time has come to give him an 80 minute opportunity.
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September 16th 2012 @ 3:55pm
Nicksa said | September 16th 2012 @ 3:55pm | Report comment
I have said it time and time again, Meyer is getting way to much flak.
The man made an error on a decision to keep steyn kicking, he even admitted it in an interview afterwards BUT he didnt do it to lose the game he did it to back his player.
After the match with the argies every single idiot springbok support was calling for his head or to make wholesale changes.
HM simply responded that is not coaching that is picking.
Couple of weeks later the boks outplayed the all blacks in nz.
The man is working on the team and every single week we see them get better and better.
The pack last night was awesome, they are starting to work together and yesterday they reaped the rewards.
Meyer said in an interview that Goosen has always been part of his plan BUT he has not played rugby in 3 months, so he is giving him game time! 10 minutes against aussies and 25 against abs. Is that not more logical that throwing in a player who has not played for 3 months? If he goosen gets injured then it is HM fault again.
Springboks will beat NZ and aus at home and i think next year they will win the rugby championship
I back the coach fully and honestly believe he is doing a fantastic job.
September 16th 2012 @ 4:18pm
biltongbek said | September 16th 2012 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
True coaching is not picking, selection and coaching are two fundamentally different aspects of being a coach.
The continuous selection of Steyn is fast becoming inexpliccable.
For all his “I’ll coach players into form” it isn’t happening with Steyn, besides, can a player be “coached” to stand flatter and attack the gainline when it just isn’t part of his make up?
How would you like Meyer to introduce Goosen? Five minutes at a time?
I am not suggesting wholesale changes, I am not even suggesting radical changes to the gameplan. However as Meyer himself said, 80% of the time, all teams play the same way, sadly it is the 20% of effective attack that is lacking for SA, and it all starts to utilise players that can attack flatter, create space, create hesitation and bring enthusiasm to the backline, Morne Steyn has has 41 opportunities to show he doesn’t have that “extra” whatever you want to call it.
September 16th 2012 @ 3:58pm
kid k said | September 16th 2012 @ 3:58pm | Report comment
Elton jantjies is also playing very well at the moment so i think morne will be out come the end of year tour
September 16th 2012 @ 4:20pm
biltongbek said | September 16th 2012 @ 4:20pm | Report comment
Yes, again last night he had one of those no look offloads, perfectly timed to put his player into space.
September 16th 2012 @ 4:23pm
Johnno said | September 16th 2012 @ 4:23pm | Report comment
Biltongbek i think it would take a brave coach especially a bulls man in Meyer to drop a bulls specialist in Morne stein. i would drop morne stein any other stadium in the word but at pretoria. Just can’t see it happening. A bulls man like meyer will be getting heart palpitations to have to drop steyn at pretoria.
September 16th 2012 @ 4:40pm
biltongbek said | September 16th 2012 @ 4:40pm | Report comment
Johnno, what is Loftus going to do?
Give Morne confidence because it is his home crowd?
Then he kicks 4/5 there and Meyer says he is back into form, only to fail in JHB the next weekend again?
September 16th 2012 @ 4:48pm
Johnno said | September 16th 2012 @ 4:48pm | Report comment
I know that is a good point Biltong. Both will be in a comfort zone next week if ever there was 1. But the boks to me will ink short term they just want a win, and maybe just a win might get them momentum and confidence, and give morn some confidence even if he is doing it in a comfort zone. But your right it will give mourner , th evokes, and meter a false sense of confidence and belief of where there team is at if they win at lofts with morn steyn at 5/8.
If i was a book selector biltongbek what i’d do.
-Move Frans stein to fullback 15. He has played in my view his best rugby there at 15, has a massive boot good defender calm at the back. I don’t think Frans stein likes the crash ball lifestyle having to rough it up with ma nonu , and SBW, and big jamie roberts. Frans is big man himself but he dosnt seem to like to rough it up as much and no 12 is a very physical spot on the rugby pitch. Frans basically at this level just isn’t a crash ball man despite his big 6’3 105-110kg frame.
-Bekker back into starting line up someone has to take control of lineouts and bekker is one of the best in the business.
-Move jean to 12, . Jena to me likes the physical stuff since i have watched him play.,
Loves to tackle world class defender, runs hard , takes anyone on and stands up to anyone He had a good duel with manu tuilagi who played 12 in the book vs england series.
-And i just don’t think jean feels comfortable at 13. If Jen stays in team must be at 12 or on the bench otherwise.
September 16th 2012 @ 4:28pm
ivan said | September 16th 2012 @ 4:28pm | Report comment
Have you ever seen the kiwis as rattled in an opening half? Now step in biz,oosthuizen and etzebeth. 3 mongrels added to a backrow of flo willem and duane. Sorry but not even NZ will be able to contain that. The result was a dissapointment, sa should have won and against aus too. But it left me feeling quite positive. If you have that pck destroying oppsition at every collision, with hougie at 9 and goosen at 10. Unleashing fran jp at 13. Lambie at 15, habs at 11 and aplon at 15. Come now, let’s give nz credit wheits due, they beat us – but the team I just named, playing. Complete game – noy will stop it. 1.beast 2. Biz 3. Coenie 4. Etzebeth kruger 6.brussow 7. Alberts 8.vermeulen 9. Hougie 10. Goosen 11. Habs 12. Frans 13. Jp 14. Aplon 15. Lambie 16-22 strauss,jannie,andries,flo,kolisi,ruan,paul jordaan. Game over
September 16th 2012 @ 5:43pm
biltongbek said | September 16th 2012 @ 5:43pm | Report comment
Johnno, Ivan,
i am torn between Frans Steyn and Lambie at 12. I think JP Pietersen will be effective at 13, but after giving it some though I like JP at 14 for the following reasons, he and Habana combine well in defence at the back, their positional play is good and both have shown ability to run from deep (especially JP this season)
Frans Steyn is solid at the back, and has a huge boot, but considering the x factor Lambie can bring from joining the backline on attacking moves he is quicker and more elusive than Frans, I don’t think JDV is leving yet so in my view I rather have Frans outside Goosen than JDV who doesn’t distribute.
So if Hougaard is playing with Goosen on his outside and given a little more freedom then my backline for now:
9. Hougaard/Pienaar
10. Goosen
11. Habana
12. frans steyn
13. JDV
14. JPPietersen
15. Lambie.
September 17th 2012 @ 7:46am
mania said | September 17th 2012 @ 7:46am | Report comment
i thought frans steyn has been pretty average last 2 tests
September 17th 2012 @ 8:00am
biltongbek said | September 17th 2012 @ 8:00am | Report comment
Well he is really on a hiding to nothing there isn’t he?
He doesn’t get front foot ball, he doesn’t get any space to move in, everytime he gets the ball he is sothered by defenders just waiting for the ball to come to nail him as soon as he has possession.
September 17th 2012 @ 8:06am
mania said | September 17th 2012 @ 8:06am | Report comment
agree though that should mean that theres oppotubity outside him. so therefore maybe a skip pass past him or he needs to learn to draw and pass. he is a victim of the over all team performance but i just havent been fizzed with his contributions over the last few games in comparison to how he’s been such a play maker previously.
habana is class tho. not content with the ball not coming to him he goes looking for a try and gets it.
September 16th 2012 @ 5:51pm
biltongbek said | September 16th 2012 @ 5:51pm | Report comment
Forward pack.
1. Beast
2. Bismarck (injured) for now Adriaan Strauss
3. Coenie Oosthuizen (still injured) for now Jannie du Plessis
4. Flip v d Merwe
5. Juandre Kruger
6. Schalk Burger ( still injured) for now Frans Louw
7. Willem Alberts
8. Andries Bekker (controversial I know)
Forward bench:
Pat cilliers (when Coenie comes back Jannie)
Tiaan Liebenberg (when Bismarck comes back, strauss to bench)
Eben (impact sub)
Duane Vermeulen
Marcell Coetzee (impact sub)
My thinking is soften the opposition with physicality, but put Andries Bekker at 8 from the start, he has more speed than the other loosies and then last 30 minutes use Eben, Duane and Marcell to bring pace to the game.
September 16th 2012 @ 5:53pm
biltongbek said | September 16th 2012 @ 5:53pm | Report comment
So we are waiting for Coenie Oosthuizen, Bismarck du Plessis, Schalk Burger and JP Pietersen to return.
Then next year you want to replace JDV and bring the other youngsters in.
September 16th 2012 @ 7:10pm
Johnno said | September 16th 2012 @ 7:10pm | Report comment
Biltongbek I can live with that side except for 1 spot which you openly acknowledge, and that is Bekker as a no 8. Just can’t back you up there on that 1 mate. Lambie at 15 is fine, and steyn at 12. Steyn though to me loves the freedom to be the boss at 15.
And as he has so much talent, size, strength, hand eye co-ordination, a super massive boot the biggest in world rugby, i just think he is vital at 15. But agree to disagree. I admit stein is slower than lamb but his boot and defensive prowess from the back at least, and calm mind, is good for the boks. Frans a young stein played at 12 in 2007 world cup final. But since then in every big game south africa has won, there has been one thing in common frans at 15 he is a little bit of a colossal figure at 15 if you ask me.
His boot especially and positional play the best in the business 2nd only to Dagg for me. But yes that is my view , i would also be open to Frnas stein at 10 to. A big 6’3 man with a big boot, but i think 15 is his best spot the freedom to rule the back.
And JP for me is a better wing than centre, . Both he and Habana always play better when both in same team on the wings.
September 16th 2012 @ 6:30pm
phillip said | September 16th 2012 @ 6:30pm | Report comment
Where is Elton Jantjies, I mean between him and Goosen, surely they can raise the bar
September 16th 2012 @ 7:54pm
biltongbek said | September 16th 2012 @ 7:54pm | Report comment
Jantjies is playing very well in the Currie Cup.
September 16th 2012 @ 9:20pm
7andabit said | September 16th 2012 @ 9:20pm | Report comment
Steyn must just play flatter. He is too deep. Steyn is not in bad form. Its just Fourie Du Preez that ain’t there anymore
September 16th 2012 @ 9:47pm
biltongbek said | September 16th 2012 @ 9:47pm | Report comment
Steyn doesn’t have the ability to play flat, he needs more spae, that’s why he stands so deep
September 16th 2012 @ 11:26pm
ohtani's jacket said | September 16th 2012 @ 11:26pm | Report comment
It’s hard to believe there’s a more useless coach than Robbie Deans but somehow the Boks have found one. Perhaps it’s time to stop hiring Super Rugby winning coaches.
September 17th 2012 @ 10:15am
kingplaymaker said | September 17th 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
OJ Deans with a whole team injured just beat SA and Argentina with a similar level of difficulty overall to New Zealand, and the country has infinitely less depth anyway. That’s fantastic coaching from a fantastic coach.
September 17th 2012 @ 11:03am
ohtani's jacket said | September 17th 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
That’s a nice fairytale.