Rugby Championship: Who is missing out?
By Myles Stedman, 19 Sep 2012 Myles Stedman is a Roar Guru
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The inaugural Rugby Championship has been much more interesting than I assumed it would be. Many of my pre-conceptions were thrown out the window in the first week.
Yes, Argentina can hang with the big boys. In my opinion they have been more impressive than the first-placed All Blacks who, while still being dominant, have revelead they can be exposed.
The Wallabies have shown incredible character despite their numerous injuries to come up with some great victories.
But there are some deserving players who are missing out on the action for their respective countries.
N.b. I do not know enough about the Argentinean team to suggest my opinion on any possible changes
New Zealand: Tom Taylor
Some might say the man taking over the reins from Dan Carter at provincial level was the top-performing Crusader all season. That’s a big rap considering the quality on the Crusaders’ list, especially the aforementioned Carter.
The All Blacks have been forced to blood new cubs, with many of their older statesman retiring or taking off to other leagues around the world, but I think they should start to take a look a Taylor as well.
Their current centres, Ma’a Nonu and Conrad Smith, are both 30 years old and won’t be around forever. One of them should be moved aside sooner or later, or at least spend some time on the bench in order to help develop Taylor.
He has already shown how capable he is with the boot, and that he is comftable with fitting in with a team of stars, which he will be doing with the All Blacks for years to come.
Australia: Mike Harris
Despite showing that he can step up when it matters against Wales in June, Mike Harris has received no test action in the Rugby Championship.
Harris showed throughout the Super Rugby season that he is deadly with the boot, and can step up to replace a superstar who goes down, such as Quade Cooper, and keep his team relevant.
This makes it even more surprising that he was not selected. Kurtley Beale’s blunders early on in the championships certainly called for Harris to replace him in the no. 15 jersey.
It’s hard to believe that the Wallabies are still overlooking ‘Magic Mike’, as their desperation for a fullback has been confirmed by moving Berrick Barnes back. Certainly, the Wallabies should start trialling Harris a bit more.
South Africa: Joe Pietersen
If I was a South African selector, I would most certainly have the streaky Joe Pietersen in at fullback at no time. Zane Kirchner hasn’t been as impressive as in past years, and perhaps a change of position or a changing of the guard is in order.
Pietersen also plays wing, which is currently occupied by Francois Hougaard who is much more suited to playing the scrum-half position.
Pietersen was a standout for the Stormers this year, helping them achieve top position on the ladder and get one game away from the final.
Despite nearly toppling the All Blacks, the Boks haven’t looked all that crash hot, and tinkering with players’ positions may help South Africa beat Australia and New Zealand at home, and this starts with Joe Pietersen.
The Rugby Championship looks poised to be a great event on the calendar of world rugby for years to come, and this small taste of it has only got us looking to next August wondering what will be in store. The coming games will continue to enthrall us, and with these few changes can make for an even better 2012 Rugby Championship.
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September 19th 2012 @ 4:12am
Johnno said | September 19th 2012 @ 4:12am | Report comment
It’s been exciting no question at times. All exciting moments argentina have been the only 1 making them regrettably with there passion and spirit , which is sad as the sth american cowboys are now more exciting than the AB’S, in terms of wow factor.
What i would like to see is this:
Scrap the RC and pacific nations cup:
-And have a SH championship 10 teams- split into 2 pools of 5 each year seed it and split so to start year 1
Pool 1
NZ
Australia
Samoa
Canada
USA
Pool 2
Argentina
STH Africa
Fiji
Tonga
Japan
-2 cracking groups a few local derbies full of tension would be awesome
-Then the top 2 of each group have a semi final- or just the winner of the 2 groups make a grand final
-And play each pool over 4 weeks- 1 in 1 country and the other in the other country
And then come finals time, have 1 week gap for travel and play the semi and grand final in that 1 country
-So all in all the tournament would last 7 weeks
-And split the gate and tv ratings so all unions get some money
-Would be exciting and don’t underestimate Fiji,Samoa,Tonga. Fiji was far better than the 2011 world cup. Rmemeber 2007 almost beat the boKS. They were a mess last world cup but at full strength can match any one.
USA/Canada/Japan rapidly improving. and Japan hosting world cup in 2019 so this is good. And USA/Canada massive tv markets.
Just the RC, seems a bit flat yet the 6 nations despite it basically being a first past the past does not seem to be. As you can win things like the treble , .
September 19th 2012 @ 5:58am
mania said | September 19th 2012 @ 5:58am | Report comment
johnno – couple problems here. travel factor will be insane. also hosting capabilities of the island nations. will the islands be able to field proper teams considering the majority of their players play in europe and japan.
September 19th 2012 @ 6:41am
Johnno said | September 19th 2012 @ 6:41am | Report comment
mania -Play 1 pool in 1 country, and the other pool in another.
eg Pool1 Play in OZ: Pool 2 in south africa:
-Split the gate amongst the unions
-Piafic island nations played full strength teams for the pacific nations cup this year and will again as it will be expanded to inched USA/Canada next year.
-then for the finals play in 1 coutnry eg semis and grand final
September 19th 2012 @ 6:50am
mania said | September 19th 2012 @ 6:50am | Report comment
johnno – samoa has never fielded a full strength side in the PN cup. majority of their players arent allowed to be released by the euro clubs. i imagine fiji is the same. its diffilcult enough to players released for the WC but that is the exception as its the biggest rugby tournament.
so got your pool idea, where will the teams be based and whose facilities will they use? the effort and planning it takes to organise a WC pool is immense and now you want to do it yearly similtaneously in 2 different countries?
September 19th 2012 @ 6:02am
Jerry said | September 19th 2012 @ 6:02am | Report comment
Other than his goal kicking, which was very good, Tom Taylor was no more than competent at Super Rugby level.
September 20th 2012 @ 10:16am
Sylvester said | September 20th 2012 @ 10:16am | Report comment
I’d agree. The Crusaders backline really struggled when he played 10. Lacks the X factor
September 19th 2012 @ 6:27am
jus de couchon said | September 19th 2012 @ 6:27am | Report comment
Dont fix whats not broken. Rugby League falls into the trap of constantly reinventing itself. The Rugby Championship should be left alone and reviewed in a couple of years maybe. Here in England B.T and Sky are about to throw money at rugby. The danger being the Heinekin Cup , a very successful tournement , will be replaced.
September 19th 2012 @ 8:00am
garth said | September 19th 2012 @ 8:00am | Report comment
Agree fully. Although a true SH tournament, no NH teams at all, could be played half-way between world cups. Similar to football’s Euro, but with the host rotated between the current RC nations, as they are the only ones with the necessary infrastructure in place. Six Nations clubs MUST be forced to release players for international duty though. Too many national teams are hamstrung by their refusal to do so, Argentina a case in point.
September 19th 2012 @ 9:44am
Working Class Rugger said | September 19th 2012 @ 9:44am | Report comment
Not if the French clubs are to be believed. They have come out and stated they won’t be leaving the current European structures for any new setup with their English counterparts.
September 19th 2012 @ 6:56am
Shop said | September 19th 2012 @ 6:56am | Report comment
I thought JP Pieterson was injured?
September 19th 2012 @ 7:11am
biltongbek said | September 19th 2012 @ 7:11am | Report comment
He is making a comeback to Currie Cup this weekend, it was only a fractured finger, so the injury in itself won’t curb his fitness levels.
September 19th 2012 @ 7:50am
Myles said | September 19th 2012 @ 7:50am | Report comment
Joe Pietersen is a different player from JP my friend
September 19th 2012 @ 7:46am
moaman said | September 19th 2012 @ 7:46am | Report comment
Tom Taylor? Er…..very promising but I would stick him into the ‘Solid’ category rather than the ‘Star’ box.
As far as the aging centres argument goes-the ABs have already identified Ellison/Smith B amongst the current crop and I don’t know if Taylor is even on the horizon. Interesting that you should single out Mike Harris also as I see him as a very similar player to Taylor.He didn’t find a place in NZ Super squads but was fast-tracked into the Wallabies.
I reckon Joe Pietersen is the only genuine International -Class player of the 3 mentioned.
September 19th 2012 @ 8:30am
Mike said | September 19th 2012 @ 8:30am | Report comment
With Cooper injured, its difficult to see how Harris won’t get a spot in each test, maybe even a start.
September 20th 2012 @ 6:15am
Myles said | September 20th 2012 @ 6:15am | Report comment
You’d think so, but with the Wallabies selectors, I have no idea
September 19th 2012 @ 8:32am
sixo_clock said | September 19th 2012 @ 8:32am | Report comment
Harris, couldn’t agree more, though we have yet to watch him for an entire test to see how he goes. He ticks a lot of boxes, has ice-water in his veins, can read a game, is big enough to put his weight around, is solid defensively, has some good ball skills, and most importantly plays the team game. Unfortunately the ‘promise’ of Quade, and his ‘X factor’ rapidly becoming the ‘WTF’ factory has kept him out. He could play any position except wing and make a contribution. I would use him to replace either Barnes or Quade for the Springbok test and give him a go. The Reds did not lose a game when he was on the paddock.
Would think this is a pretty solid Wallaby backline with enough Rugby nous to keep any opposition honest.
10. Harris
12. McCabe
13. AAC (but he must learn that it his job to set up tries, not score them)
11. Digby
14. Shipperley
15. Barnes
20. Faingaa
late game X factor:
21. Quade – a chip is easy enough fixed
22. Beale – until someone else gets healthy
If Sitaleki comes back, Kane to 7 or 8 but he must be taught the barging fend run that Richie, Rocky and other greats have used to devastating effectiveness. Samo gets too excited to be a starting test player.
September 19th 2012 @ 8:40am
sixo_clock said | September 19th 2012 @ 8:40am | Report comment
Whoops, just saw the news, Quade is out of the entire RC. Apologies.
21. have to think!
September 20th 2012 @ 6:23am
Myles said | September 20th 2012 @ 6:23am | Report comment
Agreed. Two things to consider however:
-Would we want to immediately try him at fly-half, or ease him into the role? Or have him there at all? Remember, his natural position is fullback. But I don’t blame you for not wanting kick-happy Barnes running the play.
-Yes Quade definitely CAN have the x-factor. But to use a hypothetical, say we were to bring him on with 10 minutes left in last week’s game against the Pumas. Would you really want to rely on him to help win us the game? Perhaps at the peak of his form, but not now. I think Wallabies rugby is going to have to bite the bullet and say to Quade “either you’re going to have to pick up your form, or we’re going to start giving the chance to other blokes”. Yes, dropping Quade would be an embarrasing prospect for both him and Australian rugby, but perhaps it’s what they both need
P.S. regarding the no. 21 jersey, when he comes back from injury it will no doubt be Lealiifano. But until then, I could see Dave Harvey wearing it. Had a solid season for the Force and looks like he’ll be an integral part of the Force next year. Proved to do an alright job leading the team while Pococo was out. Thoughts?
September 20th 2012 @ 9:46am
sixo_clock said | September 20th 2012 @ 9:46am | Report comment
I would be surprised if Harris was the type who needs to be eased in, he has, courtesy of his upbringing, a solid Rugby brain and is not phased by the noise etc.
21: The Honey Badger for mine, not X factor material but a powerful runner against a tiring opposition, but then we are awash with backs who do not see their principal role as getting others through holes and then backing up the break or breakdown. I doubt if they even have code words for the options they see.
September 19th 2012 @ 9:57am
Jnrn said | September 19th 2012 @ 9:57am | Report comment
Andre taylor or horrell before Taylor
September 20th 2012 @ 6:36am
Myles said | September 20th 2012 @ 6:36am | Report comment
No doubt Andre Taylor has enormous All Black’s potential, but I’d rather see him at fullback, where he naturally plays, which is currently occupied by Israel Dagg. If Andre wants to get some All Blacks caps under his belt, he might have to start playing centre more frequently, even at Super Rugby level
September 19th 2012 @ 11:03am
Riccardo said | September 19th 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
Tom Taylor is a good kicker and an adequate Super 15 player but there are a host of names that should go before his. Since you are talking centres how about Richard Kahui, Ben Smith, Tamati Ellison, Tim Nanai-Williams. But the fringe player some might argue was the unluckiest might be Andre Taylor, the mercurial Canes fullback.
Mike Harris for the Wallabies? Good kicker and another good Super 15 player. Given the continuing injury woes for the Wallabies you may see him sooner than you think. However, the reality is that if the Wallabies injured roster wasn’t the size of a Cruise Liner’s passenger list he would not likely get a look in past the initial training squad.
Joe Pietersen is an outstanding young talent and you are on the money with this one. A decent all round full back who runs great lines at pace. Not sure if he is currently injured but I thought he was in the wider squad initially? He is another of the Boks up and coming youth brigade (Goosen, Lambie etc) who will shore up the Boks once Meyer has the courage to pick them.
September 20th 2012 @ 6:43am
Myles said | September 20th 2012 @ 6:43am | Report comment
Andre Taylor was no doubt unlucky to miss out on the squad. Unfortunately for him, there is already one of the best playing his position in Israel Dagg. If Andre Taylor wants to get a gig in world rugby, he might have to completely transition to playing center, starting at Super Rugby, whch would be a bit of a pity, especially for the Canes.
Regarding Mike Harris, you are 100% correct. However, if Quade-James-Kurtley was avaliable for the championships, and all in top form, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Harris on the bench. What would be your ideal Walllabies backline?
The Bok’s youth brigade is a scary prospect, and Joe Pietsen should be dirty to just be in the wider training group while his mates Goosen and Lambie are getting caps. He’d be straight in the starting line-up if I was coach, which is unrfortunate for Zane Kircher, becuase that’d see him on the bench.
September 20th 2012 @ 7:22am
Pogo said | September 20th 2012 @ 7:22am | Report comment
I wouldn’t go for Nanai-Williams as a centre personally. I also think Andre Taylor is more likely to force his way in as a wing rather than a centre, rather like Cory Jane and initially Dagg.
Kahui, when fit, is the next best centre for sure, followed by Ellison.
September 22nd 2012 @ 6:37pm
atlas said | September 22nd 2012 @ 6:37pm | Report comment
re andre taylor – he was originally selected as a wing, only played once at fullback for hurricanes in his first season with them – - a wing converted to fullback, rather than the opposite. I think it was at wing too when he played for NZ U-20 side in 2008.
September 19th 2012 @ 12:38pm
tubby said | September 19th 2012 @ 12:38pm | Report comment
when I saw the title on this I thought immediatley that the ones missing out the most is anyone relying on channel 9 for the coverage
September 20th 2012 @ 6:44am
Myles said | September 20th 2012 @ 6:44am | Report comment
Right you are my friend.