CAMPO: I’ve tried to help grassroots rugby, to no avail
By David Campese, 20 Sep 2012 David Campese is a Roar Expert
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It’s been interesting reading some of the comments on my columns from the armchair experts asking why I talk so much and don’t do something to help Australian rugby at grassroots level.
The reality is that I’ve tried and it just wasn’t welcomed.
I thought I should give some insight into my unwelcomed efforts over the years.
In 2010, I was asked by the president of Sydney University to set up a Sevens academy at the University, which has remained the dominant club side in NSW rugby over the past decade or so.
The future of this code is bright after being granted approval as an Olympic sport for 2016.
This means an opportunity for rugby players to win an Olympic medal, an offering no other code can offer, not forgetting the appeal to women as they too have the option of winning a medal.
My aim was to promote Sevens as a viable alternative to the 15 man-a-side game. And create an avenue to increase the popularity of rugby and get kids to choose rugby over the many other sporting codes on offer.
We set up an internal Sevens competition, supported by most of the houses at Sydney University. We got a sponsor on board. It was well supported and very successful.
Then realising we needed a feeder system, we turned our focus to school level, particularly the government sector, to generate players through a system which would be set up as an academy using universities’ facilities and structure.
From the investigations I did, it was disappointing to discover that little was being done to promote Sevens rugby in Schools.
One of my ideas was to try approach government schools and encourage them to offer Sevens as an option.
I was unexpectedy surprised at the positive response I received after speaking to a few contacts high up in the school system – especially out west, where union is dominated by league.
Unfortunately, the whole thing fell apart after a year due to the ARU allowing the national Sevens side to compete in the local Sevens comps.
Due to strong ties to the ARU, half of the University players were called up for the National team and no longer available for us. I found this very frustrating and unfair for the clubs as the point of the local comps is to allow club teams to gain experience and win prize money to improve their club facilities and help with travel.
Fast forward to February last year, by which time I’d been running my rugby academies in Hong Hong for about a year.
I approached the NSW Waratahs and proposed to set up a weekly coaching academy for 30 or so kids at the Sydney Football Stadium every Friday night.
The Waratahs would give each club around Sydney an opportunity to send 30 kids to be coached by myself for two hours or so. The focus was to be on the basics in a fun yet structured environment after which parents could join in for a BBQ.
And so the discussions went like this: “Great idea but you have to go to ARU to see if it will work”.
Then I was told “we must approach the Waratah sponsors first to avoid any conflicts”.
That’s when all the excuses started.
To cut to the chase, after months of excuses, they made it out to be too complicated and that was the end of that.
So for all of you out there, that’s why I have my academies overseas. There’s a market there for it and, unlike in Australia, these grassroots initiatives are actually supported by the various governing bodies.
Perhaps part of the problem is that I don’t go by the rules and I am willing to share ideas with anybody.
Back in ’96, just after I retired, Alex Evans, who coached the Wallabies for many years, came to my house to say he was leaving the game.
He said he had approached the ARU with an idea to get him and I to travel around Australia promoting rugby and nuturing grassroots through coaching kids and club/school coaches.
You can guess what happened to that idea …
Sadly, I have tried and over the years to help coach kids’ schools and clubs.
After moving away from coaching rugby into the business world for almost fifteen years, I have recently realised that rugby is still my true passion and coaching and passing on my knowledge is what makes me tick.
I still want to help, but my time has passed. I’ve got to go where the opportunities are.
So to all those people who comment, “why don’t you do something about the current state of Australian rugby”. I have tried. But there’s only so much you can do.
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September 20th 2012 @ 6:34am
mania said | September 20th 2012 @ 6:34am | Report comment
dont give up campo. if u really love oz rugby then u gotta stick at it, but u dont have to do it alone.
ideally you’d need to join forces with other ex player/legends like larkham, gregan, ella’s, eales. you gotta find a way of circumventing or over throwing the ARU.
September 20th 2012 @ 8:57am
Bakkies said | September 20th 2012 @ 8:57am | Report comment
I am not sure why Campo bothered with the NSW Rugby system. There are other states that can have and welcome his input. I reckon the Brumbies would have him on board (and he is an ex ACT player) but the problem is I think there was a feud between Gregan and himself. That would make it difficult. Gregan is only a consultant unless they have made up I couldn’t see them working together with the main Brumbies squad. He could help out with the second XV, schools development and the juniors.
September 20th 2012 @ 8:53pm
Dog said | September 20th 2012 @ 8:53pm | Report comment
What about a third tier of schoolboy rugby?
September 21st 2012 @ 10:42am
Bakkies said | September 21st 2012 @ 10:42am | Report comment
Who is going to fund their travel plus even in school holiday periods they have to complete school work which is the main objective of them going to school.
September 22nd 2012 @ 11:03am
Dog said | September 22nd 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
The ARU
September 23rd 2012 @ 11:38pm
Ian Whitchurch said | September 23rd 2012 @ 11:38pm | Report comment
Using what for money ?
September 20th 2012 @ 6:37am
soapit said | September 20th 2012 @ 6:37am | Report comment
all this just adds to the frustration with the aus rugby governing bodies. is their any major sport in the world which is run so poorly. amazing the difference between jon’s 1st and 2nd stints.
the time is coming when the whole thing needs to be scrapped but will any of the high ups get their noses out of the trough long enough to see that the system is rotten and make a sacrifice to make change.
makes me wonder what might have been if the wrc had got up.
September 20th 2012 @ 6:42am
mania said | September 20th 2012 @ 6:42am | Report comment
i just finished reading gregans book “halfback half foward” in it he’s very complimentary of JONs first stint where JON went out of his way to make sure that the wb’s had everything to win the 99 WC. however the 2nd stint, gregan doesnt sing JONs praises as much and u get a view of a paranoid exec whose not secure in his position. thats not what gregan says but its whats between the lines.
ps – gregan isnt very praising of campo
September 24th 2012 @ 8:34pm
WoobliesFan said | September 24th 2012 @ 8:34pm | Report comment
coming back to this thread after Cooper’s Twitter toxic tell-all.
A change is coming soapit……
September 20th 2012 @ 6:39am
moaman said | September 20th 2012 @ 6:39am | Report comment
Campo…Good to hear of your efforts in this regard.It is easy to become frustrated when you come up against this kind of obstruction.
I wonder were you to try again today with some of these schemes and perhaps employ some slightly different methods to publicise both your plans AND the obstructions-using public media as an ally-would you have better luck?
Those of us who have coached any sport at grass roots level will attest to striking similar difficulties with unwieldy structures and obtuse officials. You have the advantage of your reputation and history.
September 20th 2012 @ 6:53am
nickoldschool said | September 20th 2012 @ 6:53am | Report comment
We may or may not like Campo, he is the last ‘independant’ rugby thinker/writer in this country.
You have to respect a guy who starts his article this way: ” It’s been interesting reading some of the comments on my columns from the armchair experts…”.
Thanks for having a crack at us Campo.
September 20th 2012 @ 8:53am
Mals said | September 20th 2012 @ 8:53am | Report comment
At least Campo bothers to read the comments!
September 20th 2012 @ 7:04am
Andrew C (waikato) said | September 20th 2012 @ 7:04am | Report comment
Good on you, Campo. Spoken directly from the heart. Grassroots is where it all starts. We NZers nurture our grassroots which is why we’re strong @ both the 15s and 7s , both male & female. Sure the NZRFU have made a few faux pas over the years and back in the 70s it was in dinosaur territory
. But we Kiwis currently hold the Rugby World Cup (finally caught up with OZ and Sth Africa
), the World Sevens Title, our women hold similar titles, our NZ under 21 side have won (about) 4 out of the last 5 World Titles (contested annually – this IS very important because young guys from these sides tend to progress to Super Rugby & onto the All Blacks). NZ always has been a rugby mad country (Rugby, Racing & Beer the old adage ). I always enjoyed watching you play, Campo whether it be Sevens or for the Wallabies. I’m sure you’d be welcomed over here as an honourary Kiwi when you visit on occasions. ……………….. One thing OZ Rugby needs to do though. Get rid of John O’Neill for starters !!
September 20th 2012 @ 1:37pm
Dexter William said | September 20th 2012 @ 1:37pm | Report comment
Like it or not, JON is great when he is negotiating at SANZAR. NZ and SA officials hate him as he normally outsmarts them.
We would not have got 5 super teams without JON. Maybe good guys come last, so sometimes we need bad guys and I think on the whole we can afford one JON.
Worst thing that he did was to extend RD contract before the 2011 RWC.
I don’t understand the whole JON bashing, especially his decision to stop ARC. We just do not have the money for ARC. It would be a bad decision to keep ARC if the ARU go broke and all our good professional players go to Europe to earn the $ they can not get from the ARU.
Unless we can sell the ARC to sponsors, ARC is dead in the water. We just have too many footy codes to compete against unlike NZ and SA. How are we going to fill the stadiums in the ARC when we can not even get 40% turn out when the Tahs are playing. We need more exciting matches at super level to generate interest. We need to sack coaches who do not have an attacking strategy. Maybe the ARU should tell all Super teams that if they do not score more than 2 tries a match, they have got to sack a coaching staff.
Campo, always love your unadulterated articles. Love the way you played the game and keep plugging away at those bastards.
Cheers
September 20th 2012 @ 7:13am
p.Tah said | September 20th 2012 @ 7:13am | Report comment
As the governing body the ARU needs to control the game. We have limited resources and plans need to best utillise those resources. Whether we agree with those plans for the most part we need to all pull in the right same direction. Mind you it would be nice to know what those plans are.
On face value Campos offerings were great ideas but I suspect that they either conflicted with the ARU’s plans or didn’t use resources as effectively as they possibly could be.
Rather than coming up with offerings and then getting knocked by the ARU, you both need to work together. It may not be in your nature Campo but in this instance you need to work with the establishment if your motivation is to help Australia rugby. Easy to say from my armchair, but I would approach the ARU and outline the issues diplomatically. You want to help Australian rugby, your previous ideas have been thwarted or knocked back but you still want to help. You’ve got to make a living out it commensurable with your reputation as a legend of Australian Rugby. How can you both work together so you are all pulling in the same direction.
IMO Campo is still up there with the most recognized sporting names in Australia, the ARU should leverage that and work with you.
Just my two cents. Sometimes it helps to work with the authorities rather than go it alone.
September 20th 2012 @ 7:24am
formeropenside said | September 20th 2012 @ 7:24am | Report comment
The ARU is completely useless, a bunch of pointless meddlers.
September 20th 2012 @ 8:02am
mushi said | September 20th 2012 @ 8:02am | Report comment
I can see how that happened here Campo seems to have been pushing grass roots “sevens” rugby not grass roots 15 man so in effect creating a rival source of competition for talent. I can see how the ARU could see the diversion of limited resources away from the 15 man code as more hindrance than help.
September 20th 2012 @ 8:23am
mania said | September 20th 2012 @ 8:23am | Report comment
hence why the ARU are sitting around doing nothing for grassroots, for 7 or 15′s
September 20th 2012 @ 12:45pm
all7days said | September 20th 2012 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
I wouldn’t try and guess what the ARU is thinking… But you just gave to look at the Nz sevens team over the years to realize what a terrific talent pool it creates for super rugby and the All Blacks
September 20th 2012 @ 1:42pm
hoqni said | September 20th 2012 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
7s are still rugby. There would be higher rate of progression to 15 man rugby, rather than direct to league.
September 20th 2012 @ 7:18am
tc said | September 20th 2012 @ 7:18am | Report comment
Good article Campo ,just as a side issue could you right up something on Asian rugby and especially Chinese rugby ,is it just meandering along or is there a real pickup in the growth.
September 20th 2012 @ 9:04am
Bakkies said | September 20th 2012 @ 9:04am | Report comment
From memory he wrote an article about it. Have a look through his archives.
September 20th 2012 @ 7:18am
Red Kev said | September 20th 2012 @ 7:18am | Report comment
A very interesting read, thankyou for sharing. I wish I could say I was surprised by the resistance you met.
September 20th 2012 @ 7:22am
onside said | September 20th 2012 @ 7:22am | Report comment
“Then realising we needed a feeder system,”
That’s the problem with Australian rugby in a nutshell.There’s is no feeder system.
SA have Currie Cup .NZ have ITM Cup.Australia has…………blogs about the need.
If a National rugby squad is only as good as the depth of its reserves,then the health
of the game in any Nation is only as good as its feeder system.
Having no high standard,professional feeder system in Australia, is akin to giving a
person a thirty meter start in a one hundred meter race.
September 20th 2012 @ 8:29am
p.Tah said | September 20th 2012 @ 8:29am | Report comment
“SA have Currie Cup .NZ have ITM Cup.Australia has…………blogs about the need.”
Too funny, but not funny at the same time
September 20th 2012 @ 8:22am
Emric said | September 20th 2012 @ 8:22am | Report comment
Campo – thanks for sticking with Rugby. The ARU used you like a piece of tissue paper and discarded you when you were not needed. – and this is the real reason Australian rugby is failing. Poor administration at the top, infighting between the different union states, and no collective will to work together for the good of the game.
problem – Australian Rugby became to big to fast, its administrators to arrogant to realize that they had inherited success of a great rugby team who people wanted to follow, they thought the good times would continue to roll while the Wallabies continued to win and play entertaining rugby this peeked during the world cup in 03 where Australia held a successful cup but did not win at this point the administrators and protectors of the game thought they could do no wrong, instead of using this new found influence to help grow and expand the game they protected the one asset which was keeping everyone interested “the very top level” unfortunately the top level declined the games became more static with rules tinkering by the IRB and the game devolved for the worse.
The ARU is guilty of not predicting the change in product and market for not building the game when they had opportunities to do so and for not fully using the assets and “heroes” they helped create.
Just my take on it
September 20th 2012 @ 8:47am
hog said | September 20th 2012 @ 8:47am | Report comment
Very good point Emrc i agree, for too long Aus rugby has survived on success but underneath the foundations have never been that strong, a combination of luck and talent, sooner or later reality was going to hit.
The big problem now is the code is in danger of being swamped by cashed up AFL and NRL i have been amazed and concerned by the last couple of years just seeing the saturation coverage that AFL is getting and now the NRL will have the bucks as well.
The next few years i believe will either make or break Rugby union as a major sprorting code in this country and unless genuine forward thinking and planning are implimented rugby will simply get swamped.
And rugby may have to take a step back to go forward and an ARC comp is not important it is imperative for the future of Aus Rugby