Manly vs Melbourne: choose your lesser evil
By Chris Chard, 21 Sep 2012 Chris Chard is a Roar Expert
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Cameron Smith will need to be at his peak for the Storm against Manly. Images: (Mark Kolbe/AAP)
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For rugby league fans, this weekend’s two semi-final matches can be seen as being one fought between challengers, and one between champions. Or more simply, good and evil.
For while Saturday’s Souths versus Bulldogs showdown contains a multitude of feel good storylines which league fans can live through vicariously, the game between Manly and Melbourne poses a Morton’s Fork for the impartial spectator.
Both of these clubs have enjoyed much recent success, which in the landscape of Australian sport is equal to immediate disdain.
There is no point in hating both teams equally either, as unfortunately to get maximum enjoyment out of tonight’s match you will have to cheer for someone so you can at least rant about the video ref decision that dudded you at work on Monday.
To help those struggling to decide who in fact they hate less, I’ve analysed each team in the areas of players, coach, fan-base, history and mascot.
May the less putrid win!
Players
Whether or not you like a player is obviously completely subjective. I have a mate who has an irrational hatred of Steve Menzies. Menzies!
But as a general consensus there are some players that are clearly disliked more than others, which can be tentatively measured via my patented Woolford-Wishart scale.
Both Manly and Melbourne have a couple of nice guys mixed in with some undesirables, however with Jason Ryles not playing this weekend and Steve Matai returning from injury, Storm squeak in your popularity vote here.
Winner: Melbourne
Coaches
When choosing a favourite coach it’s best to think of them as a perspective father-in-law at a BBQ. While the Storm’s Craig Bellamy may give you an ear bashing for over cooking his steak, I’d be more worried about Toovs continual niggling and mind games over my choice of salad dressing.
This isn’t to say Toovey shouldn’t be respected for what he’s achieved this year, it’s just that, well….he’s Geoff Toovey.
Winner: Melbourne
History
As mentioned earlier, rugby league fans hate any team better than theirs, which is an immediate black mark against both of these sides.
Furthermore, both Manly and Melbourne have had an ‘eye for talent’ over the years (i.e. other team’s talent), and have histories closely aligned to the almighty dollar.
The Storm however was successful straight off the bat, which for the Sharks and North Sydney fans out there is just grossly unfair.
At least Manly had the dignity of waiting a few years before making us feel bad about ourselves and our teams.
Winner: Manly
Mascot
Perhaps a fairly childish way to choose an allegiance, but picking a side by their mascot has helped many a primary school aged child dominate their footy tipping comp.
The Manly Sea Eagle is a beloved member of the local fauna, and like all birds of prey inspires awe and wonder in anything not small enough to be eaten by it.
A storm on the other hand, as dangerous as it can be, is a moniker that seems to have been developed primarily as some sort of Sydney joke at Melbourne’s climatic expense. Also, the use of a singular may have potentially paved the way for naming atrocities like the ‘Chill’, ‘Wind’ or ‘Mostly fine’ with regards to future expansion sides.
Winner: Manly
Fan base
And so the decider. It is widely known that all opposition fans are inbred, narrow minded, fat corrupt morons.
But, among which group would you rather sit clad entirely in your own team’s overpriced merchandise? Would it be the psychotic Sea Eagles’ nest, or the mean, mean Melbourne massive?
Despite the presence of an idiot with a cow bell, I award this to the Melbourne faithful.
Mostly due to the fact that if I was sitting among them, I wouldn’t have to use the toilets on the hill at Brookvale.
Winner: Melbourne
So there you have it Roarers, the Storm are your clear choice to cheer for tonight.
Unless of course that is you happen to go for Parramatta.
Or the Dragons.
Or Canberra.
Or…..
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September 21st 2012 @ 2:55am
DubbleBubble said | September 21st 2012 @ 2:55am | Report comment
Anything the Storm achieve over the next few years should have an asterisk over it . Even though they are now under the cap, they are still benefiting from their salary cap rorts as did the Bulldogs in 2004.
September 21st 2012 @ 7:19am
Renegade said | September 21st 2012 @ 7:19am | Report comment
That’s the most out of touch comment i’ve ever read…..i’m not a storm fan but how the hell are they benefitting from it still?!
Unlike the buldogs in 04, they haven’t kept their entire roster.
September 21st 2012 @ 9:08am
damoinaus said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:08am | Report comment
Melbourne have three of the best players in the NRL, nay, the world. To say that they’re not benefiting from cheating shows your naivety, Renegade.
Next thing you’ll say is that Mitt Romney is a kind hearted fellow who looks out for the poor and needy…
September 21st 2012 @ 9:53am
Ken said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:53am | Report comment
I’d have to side with Renegade on this one. Melbourne do have 3 of the best players going around playing for them – but shedding Inglis and a multitude of solid support players has brought them back to the competition.
You could make arguments that the team may look completely different if the rorting hadn’t taken place – they are certainly the most top-heavy team going around – but the overall strength of their team no longer looks like a rep squad.
September 21st 2012 @ 10:00am
Renegade said | September 21st 2012 @ 10:00am | Report comment
And what about the rest of the side……plenty of big names there!
The only person naive here is you mate…..the game is still played on the field between two sides with 17 men each.
September 21st 2012 @ 5:58pm
RebelRanger said | September 21st 2012 @ 5:58pm | Report comment
Melbourne have 3 of the best players who themselves benefit from great coaching and being surrounded by role players who know what to do.
Manly supporters need to know you won’t quench your thirst drinking Haterade..
September 21st 2012 @ 10:34pm
Rabby said | September 21st 2012 @ 10:34pm | Report comment
I don’t know what side you support but only if you can say that your side has never cheated will I listen to you. Incidently, there is only one side currently in the NRL who have never been caught cheating. Point number 2 is that the salary cap is there for one purpose and one purpose only, to stop wealthy clubs poaching all the best players. Please name ONE (just one) melbourne player that the club has ever poached ? Can your club say that ? No I didn’t think so.
I strongly suggest that all Melbourne fans in future begin every post with the words “The Cheating XXXX” where XXXX is any club in the NRL bar Cronulla.
September 21st 2012 @ 10:04am
Jimbo Jones said | September 21st 2012 @ 10:04am | Report comment
They got to keep a 3/4 of their spine over the last few years and have them develop their games together. Yes they are under the cap now, but having them work together for so long (which shouldnt have happened) gives them a distinct advantage.
September 21st 2012 @ 10:18am
Renegade said | September 21st 2012 @ 10:18am | Report comment
They’ve been working together since they were teenagers coming through the clubs development…..
September 21st 2012 @ 11:50am
damoinaus said | September 21st 2012 @ 11:50am | Report comment
who did the Storm cheat to keep? Slater. Smith. Cronk.
They still have them, and they benefit from a chemistry in their spine that not many other teams enjoy..They have that chemistry as a result of cheating.
If they’d been playing by the rules, Cronk could be at Cronulla, Smith could be at the Roosters, Slater could be in England. We’ll never know because they cooked the books, and that’s why so many people hate them.
September 21st 2012 @ 1:13pm
oikee said | September 21st 2012 @ 1:13pm | Report comment
They are more popular than Manly, and their crowds are much the same as well.
Stop talking nonsense. no wonder nobody takes Manly seriously, fair dunkum, you would have Storm just removed if you had your way.
The more you say Storm are cheats just shows how insecure some people really are, Manly played without a cap, and the amount of premiership players they still have on their books, you would think they still do.
Dont try to even make out Manly are angels, they are far from it, and the sooner they have to pay for juniors instead of just taking them, the better. And let’s cap that smarty pants.
Anyone who wants the Storm out of the comp should come under suspicion. To have 2 sets of books is questionable for a start. It is like the video refs stuffing up all the calls to Manly’s advantage, a story in the paper today about refs making wrong calls. So be very careful of what you say, it could come back to haunt you.
The try to the winger was a blatent double movement, and as for Forun and his hand of god, forget that call as well, Lyon was tackled on the ground after that and passed off the ground.
Mate if this was the Broncos, they would be in court, something stinks here, and the refs have been doing this all year in Manly games, i noticed it awhile ago, 8 sets of tackles for penalties that should never been given, again it was a Manly/Cowboys game earlier in the year.
Something reaks of shonkyness. {Papers just dont write stuff for no good reason.
September 21st 2012 @ 1:22pm
planko said | September 21st 2012 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
Oikee you are completely full of it on point for Tafua’s try it should not have even been BOD on the foxtel telecast/slash angle I saw when I watched the whole game again I am serious no one on the foxtel telecast even had problem with it or thought it was bod. But I agree that Melbourne is important to the NRL just like the Swan’s are important to the AFL they are expensive to keep but it critical to future TV deal. Melbourne and it’s expense’s are growth expenses.
September 21st 2012 @ 1:22pm
damoinaus said | September 21st 2012 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
Oiks, time for a spell mate. I don’t even go for Manly.
But this is an article about the lesser of two evils, and as it stands, Melbourne are the greater evil in my opinion.
September 21st 2012 @ 1:30pm
oikee said | September 21st 2012 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
Planko, the ball hit the ground before the line, he grounded the ball, clear as day the above shot. Nobody can deny the ball was short, then he rolls over and tries to plant it again. Mate, if they dont want to enforce the double movement rule, let’s get rid of it.
And Lyon was on the ground after the ball was knocked forward from Forun, take that to court and you would lose, it is obvious, then he passed off the ground with a player on top of him. Mate so it was a no try twice.
As i said, the papers are asking questions now about shonky video refs, this somehow stinks of silvertails to me. They are in this up to their eyeballs.
Royal commission i say.
September 21st 2012 @ 1:32pm
planko said | September 21st 2012 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
You are wrong watch the foxtel replay momentum clearly carried over the line then he lost i etc etc …
September 21st 2012 @ 12:24pm
ManlyMuzz said | September 21st 2012 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
Completely agree with DubbleBubble.
If the Storm had not paid overs for their players then their stars may well have left to join other clubs years ago before they built this illegal team, just like every other club has had happened to them. I’m sure other teams offered good money to some of their players only for the Storm to wack on another couple of hundred thousand and a boat to keep them.
Who knows, Slater might have been an Eel or Smith a Bronco and the Melbourne Storm dynasty may never have happened!
September 21st 2012 @ 10:39pm
Rabby said | September 21st 2012 @ 10:39pm | Report comment
That is very true and the real reason that Melbourne ended up with overs. The cap was designed to stop rich clubs poaching players and here is a club penalised for breaking the cap just to protect players they had developed.
September 21st 2012 @ 10:52am
M.O.C. said | September 21st 2012 @ 10:52am | Report comment
I am a bit amazed that you are all so naive to think that only the Storm and the Bulldogs cheated the salary cap….they were the only ones caught, but seriously, do you all not think that ALL clubs are guilty of this crime at some point?
September 21st 2012 @ 12:00pm
damoinaus said | September 21st 2012 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
clubs incidentally go over their limit for a variety of reasons…it happens all the time. but intentionally cooking the books, and “systematically rorting” the system. the storm took it to a new level.
the storm have been successful (on field anyway) since inception. they haven’t had to struggle for results, and their fans haven’t had to patiently wait through lean years in order to taste success.
it was a concocted lie, they cheated for a good part of the last decade…that’s why the focus of hatred is on them.
September 21st 2012 @ 2:18pm
Australian Rules said | September 21st 2012 @ 2:18pm | Report comment
Exactly MOC.
Ever wondered why Brian Waldron was never fuilly investigated and dragged before the Commish?
Fans north of the Murray might have called for blood…but their club CEO’s went eerily silent.
September 21st 2012 @ 10:42pm
Rabby said | September 21st 2012 @ 10:42pm | Report comment
Melbourne storm fans would have loved for Waldron et al to have been brought before the courts. They more than anyone would have loved the opportunity to prove to the world how much this was Waldron’s conivence. Sadly that did not happen, the rat got off scott free and the melbourne club, players and fans now have to put up with this sort of crap time and time again.
September 21st 2012 @ 11:08pm
apaway said | September 21st 2012 @ 11:08pm | Report comment
Perhaps that is the same “naivety” shown by the Storm coach and players who claimed to have no knowledge of the systematic rorting, even though the coach picks the team and some of the players signed two contracts. Hmm.
September 22nd 2012 @ 5:49am
Campaign to return Melbournes lost Premierships said | September 22nd 2012 @ 5:49am | Report comment
I do not believe they did and neither do the NRL, the police or the Australian tax authorities. It is every player’s responsibility to get the maximum they can the play the game just like you do when your employed.
September 22nd 2012 @ 3:22pm
damoinaus said | September 22nd 2012 @ 3:22pm | Report comment
Of course that’s what you believe…kind of a self-serving statement based on your “nickname”
September 21st 2012 @ 5:54am
Nafe said | September 21st 2012 @ 5:54am | Report comment
Manly were loyal to the ARL in the super league war so they are the lesser of 2 evils for me
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September 21st 2012 @ 6:41am
Manly Man said | September 21st 2012 @ 6:41am | Report comment
Whatever some bogan likes the storm more than manly. Probably goes for storm and how did Craig Bellamy win over Geoff toovey Craig Bellamy only has some swearing disorder and it least toovey is close to his players.
September 21st 2012 @ 6:52am
eagleJack said | September 21st 2012 @ 6:52am | Report comment
Please stop trolling Manly Man. Or atleast tone it down a few notches.
September 21st 2012 @ 7:12am
WQ said | September 21st 2012 @ 7:12am | Report comment
Hasn’t Toovey slotted into being a typical moaning, whining Manly Coach!
September 21st 2012 @ 7:19am
eagleJack said | September 21st 2012 @ 7:19am | Report comment
Yep and just like all ex-Manly players who move into coaching, he too will be one of the greats.
September 21st 2012 @ 7:15am
Andy said | September 21st 2012 @ 7:15am | Report comment
Say what you want about Manly, but they never cheated other teams out of a chance at the premiership. Like the Dogs and the Storm, who were both found guilty of serious and systemic breaches of the salary cap. Also, they did not use illegal tactics like the flying wedge to try and win a grandfinal.
September 21st 2012 @ 9:24am
Neil said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:24am | Report comment
Spot on Andy. Imagine if the GF is Dogs v Storm. The biggest, most deliberate cheats the game has known.
September 21st 2012 @ 10:03am
Renegade said | September 21st 2012 @ 10:03am | Report comment
It will be a great game of football though!
September 21st 2012 @ 5:19pm
MickyMac said | September 21st 2012 @ 5:19pm | Report comment
You have to be kidding Andy!! Manly (along with the Roosters) gutted the Rabbitohs after 1971, and the Magpies in the early 80s, and left both struggling at the bottom of the table and broke for years. They still have the same attitude. Would be nice if they developed mostly their own juniors, like the Bunnies do, and not continue to cherry-pick other teams!!!
September 21st 2012 @ 11:20pm
apaway said | September 21st 2012 @ 11:20pm | Report comment
Here’s a test for you Mighty Mick. Name all the players in the current Manly squad who have “starred” for other NRL clubs and were therefore “poached”. I’ll give you Jamie Lyon and possibly Brett Kite but the rest are either players discarded by other clubs (T-Rex, Mauro, Gualavo Buhrer), local juniors (Watmough, Lussick, King, Rose, Whare, Williams) or players who were scouted early and developed by Manly (the Stewarts, Foran, Ballin, Cherry-Evans)
To say they “gutted” clubs like Wests and Souths in the 70s is simply the perpetuation of a truism. They signed 3 Wests players in 1980 at a time when it was perfectly legal to do so, and this was after having one of their greatest ever players (Bob Fulton) signed away from them by Easts
September 21st 2012 @ 8:28am
Will Sinclair said | September 21st 2012 @ 8:28am | Report comment
I agree with a couple of posters above – it was particularly hard to read this week about Melbourne Storm players STILL refusing to accept that the club cheated.
Manly all the way.
September 21st 2012 @ 8:52am
steve b said | September 21st 2012 @ 8:52am | Report comment
yeh the coach knew nothing ,,the players knew nothing ,,BS. The best cover up of all time in rugby league ..I hope Manly bury em ,,Hate the Storm with a passion ….
September 21st 2012 @ 9:16am
damoinaus said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Steve b, you speak good sense…
You can’t measure or quantify it…I can’t put my finger on all of the reasons why. But I will forever have a hate of the Storm, even if in 10 or 20 yearsthey’re not cheating, even if they’re providing their own home-grown talent…I will hate them.
Maybe it’s because when I go to AAMI Park, or went to the old Olympic Park, none of the fans knew too much about league. They just knew they loved winning, and they loved Billy. It was all a lie, the success, the trophies. The club is built on lies and deceit.
September 21st 2012 @ 10:15am
Jimbo Jones said | September 21st 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
Agree 100%. Also their introduction of grapple tackles etc, designed to hurt players – just not on in my books. I know that most clubs have followed suit, but they introduced it
September 21st 2012 @ 11:54am
damoinaus said | September 21st 2012 @ 11:54am | Report comment
oh dude, i forgot about the grappling and the chicken wings and the backbreakers and the WWE tactics…
i think what i hate the most is the smug look on cam smith’s face when he wins. ugh.
September 21st 2012 @ 1:16pm
oikee said | September 21st 2012 @ 1:16pm | Report comment
At least they dont start brawls in front of women and children.
September 21st 2012 @ 9:29pm
Blacklisted said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:29pm | Report comment
You often speak alot of BS oikee, bu that was one of your better ones.
September 21st 2012 @ 8:33am
Steve b said | September 21st 2012 @ 8:33am | Report comment
its Manly for mine ,,anyone but the Storm , they still have the same coach who never knew anything about the scam and some of the top players again who knew nothing,, that’s B.S ,,the best cover up in rugby league ..i never watch a Storm game but i’m going to watch this one and i hope Manly bury the cheats ..hate em with a passion !!!
September 21st 2012 @ 9:30pm
Blacklisted said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:30pm | Report comment
Oh cry me a bloody river.
September 21st 2012 @ 8:43am
oikee said | September 21st 2012 @ 8:43am | Report comment
Storm for me. Manly have got a awful sad woe is me culture, and they should be the last to ever mention salary cap rorts. The silvertails were the worst offenders in the game hence the name.
You only have to look at the 1987 win i think, 12 internationals in the team, if you compare that to this 2012 team, not much has changed.
They stripped the Storm of players so Manly could compete. Go figure. Pull ya head in Manly. Go find some fans to boost your crowds next year, 7 years now at the top and your crowds are going nowhere.
P.S, for anyone who is interested, the Beaver is on eurosport this weekend for Catalans, up against the Rhinos in the Prelim final. 3.45 am .
Good luck to him and i see he also signed a one year extension. Well done.
September 21st 2012 @ 8:52am
planko said | September 21st 2012 @ 8:52am | Report comment
LOL Oikee I am pretty sure that had all their cheating players when they were beaten 40- nil. All the players that signed 2 contracts and never knew anything ? Oikee you will loose this arguement all day buddy stick to the Bronco’s
September 21st 2012 @ 9:09am
oikee said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:09am | Report comment
They never had Cam Smith.
Dont know how you can argue anything when even your own players (Forun) admit to cheating.
Dont throw stones rebizza. Ask for the bully, you get the horns.
Just, just be happy nobody likes Manly, at least you have something to cheer about.
September 21st 2012 @ 9:17am
planko said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:17am | Report comment
Players cannot cheat in a game. They play the whistle and if they play any other way they get dropped… Cam Smith was suspended cause his is a little bastard that gets away with heaps. I actually like him as a player. He has an olde school and has a great football brain. He would have made it all era’s not like most of the pretty boys nowdays.
September 21st 2012 @ 10:08am
Jimbo Jones said | September 21st 2012 @ 10:08am | Report comment
By your own definition oikee every player is a cheat. How many times do we see a player either strip the ball, or just drop it cold and then claim that they are innocent? How many times do we see a player confirm that they have scored a try only to show that they have cleared mucked it up. I think your hatred of Manly is clouding your opinion mate.
September 21st 2012 @ 9:38pm
Blacklisted said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:38pm | Report comment
The thing Manly supporters don’t get is that the Storm could have cheated the cap to the tune of 10 or 20 million and they would be still more likeable then the team they follow.
When a team is sh*t almost anything smells better, and thats Manly to a tee.
September 21st 2012 @ 9:13am
Mals said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:13am | Report comment
Haha Oikee. Manly were the “silivertails” in the ’70s & ’80s. Brisbane over took them to become the rugby league’s “silvertails” from the ’90s onwards. You guys were fielding QLD origin teams in the ’90s & very strong teams ever since. Despite having 13 development officers, Broncos have failed to sign talented Queenslanders like Cherry Evans when they had the opportunity, go figure.
September 21st 2012 @ 9:27am
steve b said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:27am | Report comment
oikee correction mate ,,The name silvertails has nothing to do with how much money they have spent on players ,,it was a name given them by the western Sydney people in return for calling us fibro dwellers ..Manly is a beautiful place and back in the day very upmarket ,,hence the name silvertails !!!
September 21st 2012 @ 9:34am
oikee said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:34am | Report comment
Whatever Steve, all i know is i cant wait for tonight and see Toovey and his cheating whinging team and himself out of the finals, hopefully now and for years to come, forever would be better.
Toovey is not a real coach, he is a make believe coach, and his team are cheap shot merchants to boot.
High shots and hands in the rucks holding down and knees and elbows is becoming a boring Manly tactic. Hope they get knocked out, i cant stand even watching them anymore, i will tonight, just to see them booed outta Melbourne. hahhaha.
Put up the “Manly are cheats” chant Stormers. Rib them, they tell porkies.
Give it to them big time, i would.
12 internationals and origin players. All safely under the old silvertails cap.
September 21st 2012 @ 9:41am
Mals said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:41am | Report comment
Wow a “fake” coach has guided Manly to the prelim finals. Must be better than the “real” coach the Ponies have… what’s his name again… Hook eh?
The Stormers are a South African Super Rugby side based in Cape Town. Doubt they would know Manly are playing a league game in Melbourne tonight.
September 21st 2012 @ 9:42am
eagleJack said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:42am | Report comment
Take your pills oikee and/or get a job
September 21st 2012 @ 9:40pm
Blacklisted said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:40pm | Report comment
And you make sure to hide the razor blades for when manly get beaten.
September 21st 2012 @ 1:12pm
apaway said | September 21st 2012 @ 1:12pm | Report comment
I’ll say this about you Oikee, you’re completely consistent!
September 21st 2012 @ 1:24pm
oikee said | September 21st 2012 @ 1:24pm | Report comment
Toovey is a fake coach, he come in after Des and is losing T-Rex and Kite next year, if they can keep Kite as they are already 4-500 thousand over the cap now and Shubert wont register the Snakes 2.6 million contract, so if they can keep Kite it will be another Manly miracle.
With a ageing squad and no Kite and T-rex next year, Toovey will be struggling to beat a egg.
September 21st 2012 @ 1:04pm
Jimbo said | September 21st 2012 @ 1:04pm | Report comment
The salary cap was introduced in 1990, so your point about the 1987 Manly team is meaningless. They can’t comply with a rule that doesn’t exist.
September 21st 2012 @ 8:45am
Me too said | September 21st 2012 @ 8:45am | Report comment
the sea eagle ate the bear.
September 21st 2012 @ 8:57am
planko said | September 21st 2012 @ 8:57am | Report comment
Me too they joined the Northern Eagles cause they were broke. Weigh in Timbo even regular reporter on this site knows this. Even worse most home games Norths actually lost money from the gate. The council charged them a fortune to play at North Sydney Oval. What kept them going to years was the club house down the road and the bowling club next to the oval.
September 21st 2012 @ 9:02am
Rabbitz said | September 21st 2012 @ 9:02am | Report comment
Well the solution to the Morton’s Fork could be to introduce the concept of a Buridan’s ass*.
Instead of the hay and the water, substitute Manly and the Storm, then stay the middle course and ignore both and therefore the whole sorry charade.
Happily this outcome will differ from that of the fabled ass in that by ignoring the game you will probably not expire.
* Go on google it. You know you want to.
September 21st 2012 @ 1:37pm
Chris Chard said | September 21st 2012 @ 1:37pm | Report comment
Buridan’s ass? This isn’t about Ryan Tandy signing for the Pia Donkeys or a Nathan Hindmarsh joke is it Rabbitz?