Gai uncovers another star as more Cup hopefuls emerge
By Justin Cinque, 24 Sep 2012 Justin Cinque is a Roar Expert
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It's a Dundeel wins ahead of Honorius, Lunar Rise and King of Olympia in race 1 at Royal Randwick racecourse in Sydney on Saturday, Sept. 22, 2012. (AAP Image/Paul Miller)
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Saturday’s early spring meeting may have created more questions than answers, but racing fans can get excited about a couple of unbeaten three year olds with incredible promise.
On Wednesday at Newcastle, a horse called Proisir stepped out at the prohibitive odds of $1.3 in the Spring Stakes (Group Three, three-year olds, 1600m) and couldn’t have been more impressive in victory.
The son of Choisir enjoyed a quiet lead before racing away from his rivals in the straight to win his third start by a widening margin of six lengths.
Proisir, who is trained at Randwick’s Tulloch Lodge stables by Gai Waterhouse, beat a relatively moderate field that included the Stakes-performed Trophies (second place), Proverb (third) and Limes (fourth).
Proisir was completely dominant – he was clearly the strongest horse at the finish and if the race was another 200m in length, he would’ve proceeded to win by a margin of Frankel-esque proportions.
Because the tempo was slow early, Proisir’s lethal turn of foot was on show for all to see. But unlike Nechita – who was the last three year old to draw my wild praise – this colt is not a one-trick pony.
Proisir’s performance in the Spring was in contrast to his previous victory at Rosehill three weeks ago. On that occasion, Proisir set an incredibly hot tempo that dismantled his rivals to the extent the 10-placed horse, Longport, was beaten by over 26 lengths (63m).
On Saturday at Randwick, Longport won the Tea Rose Stakes (Group Two, three-year old fillies, 1500m) on protest from Norzita (who was second to Proisir at Rosehill).
For a race at a provincial track, the Spring Stakes (incepted in 1984) has an incredible honour roll. It includes Group One winners Ilovethiscity, Sousa, Hotel Grand, Lotteria, Clangalang, Universal Prince, Shogun Lodge, Dracula, Encounter, Ebony Grosve and Coronation Day.
Without wanting to tempt fate, it is just a matter of time before Proisor joins that list. Waterhouse will prepare the brown colt for the Spring Champion Stakes on October 6 (2000m, Group One, three-year olds) at Randwick before a possible tilt at the Cox Plate.
But if I owned Proisir, I would be demanding Waterhouse send him to Melbourne to prepare for a date with stablemate Pierro (also undefeated) in the Caulfield Guineas (1600m, Group One) on October 13.
Proisir might not beat Triple Crown-winner Pierro but he deserves his chance in Australia’s greatest stallion-making race. Unfortunately, he isn’t going get it.
Being a Choisir (multiple Group One winner between 1000-1200m) colt out of Encosta de Lago mare Prophet Jewel (winner from 1100-1300m), Proisir isn’t bred to run 2000m, and that makes his next assignment mouth-watering.
In the Spring Champion, Proisir will meet undefeated colt It’s A Dundeel.
The New Zealander has an exciting racing style – he settles at the back of the field before unwinding a big sprint in the final stretch.
On Saturday, It’s A Dundeel won his fourth start, the Gloaming Stakes (Group Two, 1800m, three-year olds) at Randwick, in incredible fashion. He settled last on a hot tempo and for much of the race looked completely outpaced.
When he entered the straight he had so many lengths to make up that it appeared – until the last 100m of the race – he wasn’t going to win. But in the final furlong the Murray Baker-trained colt became airborne – flying late to take his first Stakes victory by over a length.
On a day where so few horses did anything from behind, his win was awesome. And there was also plenty of merit in the run of the second horse, Honorius, who should be followed for races like November’s VRC Derby (2500m, Group One).
I happened to be at Canterbury for It’s A Dundeel’s previous start and he paraded almost lethargically on that occasion.
In hindsight, it appears the Kiwi galloper hadn’t recovered from his mammoth first-up victory in Australia a few weeks earlier.
Because at Randwick, It’s A Dundeel was a completely different horse. He strutted around the mounting yard with purpose; the colt’s strapper had a torrid time controlling him. And his performance was much better.
At Canterbury, It’s A Dundeel struggled to a nose victory against average older gallopers. But on Saturday he was fantastic. It was easily the most impressive victory in the Gloaming since So You Think in 2009.
And after the race, I’m sure I saw It’s A Dundeel pose for the cameras. Like So You Think, he has a bit of star factor.
While I’m certain It’s A Dundeel is going to make a very good racehorse, I’m unsure when he will fulfil his potential. With Zabeel blood on his mother’s side, It’s A Dundeel will benefit from extra ground.
His father, High Chaparral, is also a notable sire of stayers. His greatest product is So You Think. But in my opinion, High Chaparral’s greatest achievement at stud is the trifecta he sired in the 2010 AJC Australian Derby, which included the victor Shoot Out, who won again at Group One level (George Main, 1600m) on Saturday.
It’s A Dundeel might not be out of place on a Melbourne Cup campaign in 2013. In any case, his clash with Proisir in a fortnight will be something to behold.
Some of this season’s Cup hopefuls were on show at Caulfield in the Underwood Stakes (Group One, 1800m) on Saturday. Ocean Park franked his exciting win in the Makfi (Group One, 1400m) in New Zealand three weeks ago with another brilliant showing.
The four-year old son of Thorn Park showcased some of his sire’s sharp turn of foot to win from Peter Moody’s Italian import Voila Ici.
Ocean Park will be aimed at the Cox Plate but his improvement in the six months since the autumn has been scary. If he continues to get better he could be, in the words of jockey Glen Boss, “anything”.
Voila Ici travelled to Australia with Black Caviar in July. And if the rumours of a bit romance on the plane home are true (apparently Cav fancies the ghostly grey), it hasn’t done the seven-year old stallion any harm.
Voila Ici put in a great first-up showing in the Memsie (Group Two, 1400m) to finish sixth and the rise in distance suited him perfectly. Racing from the front, jockey Vlad Duric was able to control the tempo of the race and Voila Ici responded to the helpful tactics.
Voila Ici is a winner from 2000-2800m. He’s going to be competitive in everything he contests this campaign but I fancy him most in the Caulfield Cup (Group One, 2400m).
Reigning Turnbull Stakes (Group One, 2000m) winner December Draw appears to be on song for his defence in two weeks after claiming third, while Southern Speed (fourth) finished better than anything else to be the first Aussie home.
I suspect Manighar (sixth) didn’t recover from his enormous first-up effort, while Sincero (fifth) should be kept to the mile from now on.
Back in the pack, Zabeelionaire (seventh) indicated he’s on track for the majors while American import Winchester (ninth) closed off well at the very end.
It will be interesting to see how we look back on the Underwood in a few months. I have a feeling the form will stand up but there are still plenty of questions waiting to be answered in the coming weeks.
As mentioned earlier Shoot Out claimed the George Main (1600m, Group One) in Sydney. Despite giving fitness away to his rivals, the first-up six-year old profited from a perfect Hugh Bowman ride to prevail by a neck from his evergreen stablemate Rangirangdoo.
Shoot Out will now head to the Epsom Handicap (1600m, Group One) where he will be hard to toss.
Rangi’s an eight-year old now but he tends to hold his form well. If I were Chris Waller I’d be contemplating a trip to Melbourne for the Cox Plate.
In his only visit to Moonee Valley in 2009, Rangirangdoo won the Group Two 1600m race on Cox Plate Day emphatically and in track-record time. With that in mind, another trip to the Valley mightn’t be the worst idea.
Secret Admirer (third) was disappointing but not as much as favourite All Too Hard (fourth). The half to Black Caviar had his fate sealed after bombing the start again. The race developed into a dawdle and All Too Hard was a passenger.
Patinack Farm desperately needs to get a Group One race into All Too Hard but it may not happen until he gets back onto his Melbourne leg (on which he is unbeaten). I suspect he’s crying out for a fast-run race also.
All Too Hard is proving to be an expensive headache for the Hawkes camp.
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September 24th 2012 @ 8:10am
Tristan Rayner said | September 24th 2012 @ 8:10am | Report comment
What a performance from It’s A Dundeel. Has certainly stamped himself. The battle with Proisir will be tremendous.
Rangirangdoo’s second placing was my highlight of the weekend, and I’d forgotten about his Mooney Valley form. Waller will do him right, but I’d expect to see him continue in the local Sydney races.
Commanding Jewel the disappointment over the weekend. Sigh. Called a winner and then done by Cam Rose’s Lady Of Harrods.
September 24th 2012 @ 8:37am
Will Sinclair said | September 24th 2012 @ 8:37am | Report comment
I also thought Rangi was supurb in defeat, but how about Waller’s effort to have Shoot Out winning a G1 over the tough Randwick mile first up?
Wow.
September 24th 2012 @ 3:49pm
Albo said | September 24th 2012 @ 3:49pm | Report comment
It’s A Dundeel may be a good chance in the Derby, but Proisir will belt him by 5 in the Spring Champion Stks !
Do agree that if I owned Proisir he would be going to the “stallion making” Caulfield Guineas and if Gai didn’t like that, find a new trainer !
Do agree that Sincero can’t run out a solid 2000m and should stick to the mile !
A lot is still going to change over the coming 6 weeks, but my early thoughts and a couple I will follow for the big 3 races ahead:
Caulfield Cup : Southern Speed or Green Moon
Cox Plate: Pierro or Ocean Park
Melb. Cup : Zabeelionaire or Exceptionally (if it can qualify)
September 24th 2012 @ 11:30am
kokomo said | September 24th 2012 @ 11:30am | Report comment
Ocean Park is a Moral for the cox plate.
I am not convinced More Joyous can a strong 2000m, Pierro hasent taken on the older horses before and is stepping up from 1200 – 1600 – 2000? He would be a freak if he could win it. Manighar was flat and although he has a turn of foot Southern Speed who is a very good mare isnt an Outstanding mare. Manighar should go to the cups.
Voilla Ici looks like the Caulfield Cup winner in my opinion. There doesnt seem to be high temp speedsters in this years cup nominations, if it draws a gate, It can lead all the way
Winchester, was a terrific run, I would like to see him at Flemington perhaps on the SAAB on Derby day.
September 24th 2012 @ 12:14pm
Will Sinclair said | September 24th 2012 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
Not convinced by Ocean Park as yet, Kokomo.
But I thought he HAD to win the Underwood to be considered any chance. He got all the favours with the draw and in running, but credit to him, he did what he needed to.
My cash is still with Manighar, but I reserve the right to change my mind in the coming weeks!
September 24th 2012 @ 12:43pm
Alfred Chan said | September 24th 2012 @ 12:43pm | Report comment
Favours in the running? He was in serious traffic at the 400 and only won because Bossy gave one heck of a ride to get through.
Also, Voila Ici x Black Caviar would be a waste of a foal.
After the weekend I think Manighar my skip the Cox Plate. Of the three majors, it looks to be the hardest to win.
What is Chris Waller doing with his oldtimers to keep them so darn fresh. Their all running well below their years!
September 24th 2012 @ 1:43pm
Justin Cinque said | September 24th 2012 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
Waller’s flying at the moment isn’t he? Interesting with manighar – i would still go to moonee valley where his ability to run a solid 2040 gives him an obvious adv over more joyous and the untried pierro. It looks like SS is going to caulfield now – she’s going be hard to beat esp with news that dunaden has a stone bruise and will be missing the race.
Hey alfred apart from ruining whatever’s left of BC’s career, why would a VI foal be such a bad idea? They’re both well performed in both hemispheres and a speed/stamina combo goes well
September 24th 2012 @ 2:08pm
Alfred Chan said | September 24th 2012 @ 2:08pm | Report comment
One’s a 1200m specialist and ones a 2400m specialist. Split the middle and their foal will be an 1800m specialist. How many big 1800m races are there in the world compared to the other two?
September 24th 2012 @ 2:01pm
Haradasun said | September 24th 2012 @ 2:01pm | Report comment
Norzita was ROBBED on the weekend. I thought it was a VERY tough call to uphold that protest. I may be a bit biased, though. I definitely heard the elderly lady in front of me had $150 each way on Longport with the bookies. WOW.
Manighar ran exactly the same type of race 2nd up last campaign! As well I don’t think he is suited to the caulfield circuit. Will be following Ocean Park very closely on his run to the cox plate. I think he is a huge chance, but at the same time, Boss rode him a treat on Saturday. More Joyous has to be thereabouts. I don’t agree with your sentiment Kokomo. She towelled Manighar in the Queen Elizabeth and the Randwick 2000m is the toughest in the country. On what basis won’t she run out the trip?
Just want to add. How good is the Bagman! The punters favourite.
September 24th 2012 @ 3:11pm
balanced said | September 24th 2012 @ 3:11pm | Report comment
Justin, I don’t wish to seem combative, but having queried you about a Melbourne-centric tilt on another thread, you follow up now with a reference to Proisir heading to the CG because he deserves his chance at “Australia’s greatest stallion-making race”.
Come on, that is a ridiculous statement! The Caulfield Guineas is not a stallion-making race in any way shape or form, unless you run the marketing department of the MRC. The “greatest stallion-making race” by the length of the straight is the Slipper, followed by any other major or early 2yo race, like the Sires, Blue Diamond, Champagne, Magic Millions etc.
There are a number of top stallions that have won the Caulfield Guineas, such as Vain, Luskin Star, Lonhro, Redoute’s Choice, St Covet, Show A Heart and Grosvenor, but these had already proven themselves as top 2yos.
If you look at horses that have won the race WITHOUT having earlier been a star 2yo, they have made no impression at stud. Look at the records of Palace Reign, Vitalic, Beechcraft, Procol Harum, God’s Own, EConsul, etc. Helenus has been the best-performed of the “others”, having sired Cedarburg and Ethiopia, but prior to those two emerging he was unwanted and even now you can visit him for $6,000 negotiable.
Top 2yos have guaranteed stud careers, whatever they do afterwards. Horses with no 2yo form that win the CG are of little interest. How anyone can therefore construe the CG as being a stallion-making race at all, let alone the greatest in the country, is inconceivable unless you swallow marketing grabs without a moment’s thought.
September 24th 2012 @ 4:18pm
Albo said | September 24th 2012 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
Well it is for anyone that wants a horse with more pedigree and scope than a 1200 metre squib !
For anyone that wants to aim at the big money of the 3 Y/O seasons and beyond !
How were the Slipper, Sires & Blue Diamond records of the current Australian super sires like Redoute’s Choice ( Blue Diamond & CG), Lonhro, Commands, Encosta De Lago,and for the previous 10 years to 2004 dominated by Danehill & Zabeel breeds?
Of the leading sires in Australia in the past 15 years, only one had won a Group 1 2 Y/O race ( Redoutes Choice – Blue Diamond, but he also won the Caulfield Guineas which added his real value !) Same as for Lohnro, whilst Encosta DeLago ran 3rd in CG.
September 24th 2012 @ 6:13pm
Justin Cinque said | September 24th 2012 @ 6:13pm | Report comment
balanced, that’s exactly why I’d run him in the Caulfield Guineas – because it guarantees his future at stud (I’m thinking $$).
I’m not saying the Caulfield Guineas is the best producer of future *champion* stallions but it is the best producer of future stallions period. And to be fair, I’d didn’t come up with this stuff – it’s fairly well known.
We could do an exercise that looked at the top five in the Golden Slipper since 2000 and the top five in the Caulfield Guineas since 2000 and the Guineas would have at least double (if not triple) the amount of colts that went to stud. For a start, fillies very rarely contest the Guineas but they always have a big hand in the Slipper.
Whether the Guineas is a better producer of stallions is another question. Horses like Redoute’s Choice and Commands are a testament to the Guineas just as Flying Spur and Fastnet Rock are a testament to the Slipper. But, in my opinion, the Guineas is a better guide albeit I’m happy to concede that’s an opinion and not necessarily fact.
And I’ll will add the Sydney/Melbourne rivalry in racing irks me and I’m glad that it’s practically dead. I’m happy to say I’m not from the era that saw Melbournians label Kingston Town ‘The Sydney Champion’ (although that may not have been used in a derogatory manner in every circumstance), and Manikato booed when he entered the mounting yard for the Golden Slipper in Sydney (as has been recounted for me on a few occasions by people who were there in 1978).
I grew up on Sydney racing but I like to think I’m fairly impartial. And if anything, I’m a lover of Australian racing – every city, every state (and territory for that matter)! But even that doesn’t stop me from enjoying racing from all around the world.
September 24th 2012 @ 7:05pm
Scuba said | September 24th 2012 @ 7:05pm | Report comment
Since Flying Spur won the Slipper in 95, the horses who won who had any sort of stud career (as near as I can remember) were Guineas (who shot blanks), Catbird (hopeless), Stratum (good honest sire, couple of standout performers in Crystal Lily and Streama but otherwise hardly amazing) and Sebring (foals yet to hit the track). Justin, like you said, this may be because the Slipper has been won by a lot of fillies in the last 15 or so years, but it’s hardly been a massive “stallion-making” race (for winners, anyway) in recent times. Someone with more time on their hands might be able to have a look at which placegetters in the Slipper ended up at stud and what their results were like.
September 24th 2012 @ 7:31pm
Alfred Chan said | September 24th 2012 @ 7:31pm | Report comment
My boy Phelan Ready! Ohh how his owners regret the decision to geld him!
September 24th 2012 @ 8:06pm
balanced said | September 24th 2012 @ 8:06pm | Report comment
Justin, I appreciate and echo your last two paragraphs.
And BTW, I was at the 1978 Slipper and I’ve never heard anything as preposterous as the idea that Maniato was booed. I think someone is pulling your leg! (Or mixing him up with Wally Lewis.)
Back to this matter about the Guineas, I have to reject your second paragraph. I can appreciate your “didn’t come up with this stuff”, since you are not the first person to say it, but for all that, I haven’t heard it said that often, and never by anyone else reputable. You certainly wouldn’t hear anyone in the breeding industry (which I am) say it.
I would have thought the evidence I stated was incontrovertible – every Guineas winner in living memory that became a successful sire was already a very good 2yo, and NO guineas winner that wasn’t already a good 2yo has become a successful sire. I’m not sure what part of that is difficult to understand. The comment that “the CG is the best producer of future stallions. Period.” is simply not correct.
It is interesting to note that Sepoy and Helmet are both standing their first seasons at stud. Sepoy, the champion 2yo, is at $60,000. Helmet, despite being better bred, is standing at $30,000. Seems a bizarre pricing policy if it is “widely known” that the CG is the stallion-making race, wouldn’t you think? I can safely say that Helmet is only at a fee of $30,000 because he won 2 (lesser) G1′s as a 2yo. If he didn’t have that on his resume, and was relying only on the CG win, he’d be $15,000 and headed for obscurity.
And for Albo in particular, as well as others who’ve said similar things, it is obvious that you have a limited understanding of the importance of 2yo credentials to a stallion. Would you call Makybe Diva, Shocking, Viewed, Etheral or Saintly “speedy squibs”? All of them were sired by top class 2yos. It is rare to find a Melbourne Cup winner in living memory whose sire wasn’t a 2yo winner. Zabeel was a 2yo winner, Dynaformer (Amercain’s sire), was a 2yo winner. Jeune’s sire Kalaglow was unbeaten in 5 starts at 2yo up to Group level. And Sir Tristram, the greatest staying influence in our time, not only was a multiple 2yo winner, but he didn’t win at any other age!
Nature demands that whatever other attributes a stallion has, it must have been precocious enough to be winning at 2yo. Northern Dancer, Sadler’s Wells, Galileo, Montjeu, Sunday Silence, virtually any source of stamina that you can find in the breeding world world was a 2yo winner, irrespective of what they did after. That is why 2yo form is the MAIN prerequisite for a stallion in Australia or anywhere else in the breeding world.
September 24th 2012 @ 8:40pm
Justin Cinque said | September 24th 2012 @ 8:40pm | Report comment
Good case put balanced but my question is would Sepoy’s stud value be as high if he didn’t beat older horses? In any case, as one of the greatest 2yos in the modern era, you’d expect a stud value such as his, especially if the Golden Slipper really is Australia’s greatest stallion making race (certainly as one of Australia’s great stallion making races).
Helmet was a good horse for six months where he won three Group Ones but he never beat older horses and was finished after the Caulfield Guineas. Apart from that he is viewed, quite detrimentally to his stud prospects (perhaps), as a headcase.
Look, I can’t really argue about Manikato (I wasn’t born) but I’ve been told the story a few times.
Here is a quickly compiled list of the stallions that have come from the Caulfield Guineas and Golden Slipper in the last ten-15 years (NB: horses considered finished top three. List includes a few notables that finished top five i.e. SYT, Fastnet Rock, Real Saga etc):
CG: Helmet, Anacheeva, Starspangledbanner (failed), Manhattan Rain, So You Think, Denman, Time Thief, Von Costa de Hero, Wonderful World, Excites, Court Command, Econsul, Barely A Moment, Face Value, Kempinsky, Helenus, Bel Esprit, Choisir, Lonhro, Ustinov, Show A Heart, Redoute’s Choice, Testa Rossa, Commands.
GS: Sepoy, Foxwedge, Manhattan Rain, Real Saga, Sebring, Von Costa de Hero, Zizou, Churchill Downs, Stratum, Charge Forward, Fastnet Rock, Choisir, Catbird, Align, Shovhog.
I can’t take my argument any higher. Sure two-year olds might make better stallions (or two-year old form helps) but that list is enough for me. Plenty of stallion flops there but enough hits to say the CG is slightly better than the GS (which is hurt badly by the fillies going pretty well in recent times).
September 25th 2012 @ 4:01pm
Bones said | September 25th 2012 @ 4:01pm | Report comment
“Would you call Makybe Diva, Shocking, Viewed, Etheral or Saintly “speedy squibs”? All of them were sired by top class 2yos. It is rare to find a Melbourne Cup winner in living memory whose sire wasn’t a 2yo winner. ”
Balanced, the claims you disputed were that the Caulfield Guineas was NOT the ‘stallion making” race, but rather the Slipper was ! Now you want to throw a few examples of some champion stayers that won some 2 y/o races also. Not even Slipper races or GP1 races !
So what ?
If you want to aim for speedy 2 y/o types, sure you can breed from a Golden Slipper winner ( if you can find one that isnt a filly or a gelding…there aren’t many colts winners recently ). Sometimes you might even get a decent miler or stayer from them. LIke the ones you listed.
But if you are looking to breed for something that can run past 1200m you are looking for a sire that has actually done that. That’s why the Caulfied Guineas is the “stallion making” race ! Firstly it is contested mostly by colts who may or may not have been successful as 2 y/o’s, but if they can win a GP1 mile as a 3 y/o these colts are worth lots at stud ! Hence the examples I used for the domination of stud values and producers of winners now for the past 15 years ! Redoutes Choice, Lohnro, Commands ( only ran 3rdin CG), Encosta Da Lago, (even Testa Rossa finished 2nd in CG) and stayers like Zabeel & Danehill. Notice there is no Luskin Star, Flying Spur, Catbird, Stratum, on that list ? Not one Golden Slipper winner on that top sires list in the past 15 years.
Perhaps Sepoy & Helmet may change that ? I doubt it !
More lIkely the proven 3 y/o GP1 milers will still dominate the stud books as per the last 15 years !
If they can run at 2, that is a bonus, but they need to run at 3 over a mile to be real stud stars !
That’s why the Caulfield Guineas is the stallion maker race !
Take Commands. Never won a Group1 race. Won a GP3 as 2 y/o , but ran 3rd to Redoutes Choice & Testa Rossa in the Caulfield Guineas ! Now has been the leading sire of wiinners for the past 3 years, incl 7 x Gp1 winners and still stands for $55k a serve ! Then you have CG winners like Lohnro ( $110k per serve), Encosta DaLago ($110k), Redotes Choice ( $176k).
On the other hand we have your Slipper winners only like Stratum ( $44k) and Sebring ($33K) and before passing away Catbird ($20k) who have produced very little to get excited about ! Hence the difference in the service fees, apart from say Sepoy starting off his stud career at $66k per serve. Who knows how he will go ?
I think it is obvious which race is the stallion maker !
September 24th 2012 @ 4:11pm
The Guffmeister said | September 24th 2012 @ 4:11pm | Report comment
I think you’ve nailed it there Justin with Proisir being a genuine star. If he goes to the Cox Plate I think he’ll quinella it with PIERRO and I wouldn’t be sure PROISIR woudn’t be the winner. He’s still very green suggesting improvement to come.
September 28th 2012 @ 10:43am
Andrew C (waikato) said | September 28th 2012 @ 10:43am | Report comment
re PROISIR, I love the mixture of classy speed blood (of CHOISIR) with the amazing CLASSIC power of his mainly (NZ) damline going back to his 5th dam – the immortal broodmare SUNBRIDE (herself the dam of Straight Draw, Ilumquh & General Command) and ancestress of such other Australian raced (but NZ bred
) champion racehorses – the full siblings DAYANA & GRAND CIDIUM , as well as the useful GOLD PULSE …………… no problem with this pedigree combining to provide a classy fast 2040m Cox Plate contender, just the racing inexperience in the top class may count against PROISIR at this stage. However, worthwhile pasting in one’s hat !!
September 25th 2012 @ 4:09pm
Albo said | September 25th 2012 @ 4:09pm | Report comment
Refer to Bones’ comment – Someone has been pinching my Albo moniker here !