Is Sydney too important for a Grand Final Parade?
By damoinaus, 28 Sep 2012 damoinaus is a Roar Pro
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With so much of the Grand Final ticketing allocation going to corporate partners rather than supporters, fans need more ways to get close to their team during the build-up to the big game.
I’ve worked office jobs in both the Melbourne and Sydney, and I’ve noticed a lack of atmosphere in the Harbour City’s CBD around Grand Final time. It just feels like there’s something missing – and you only need to look at Melbourne’s AFL Grand Final Parade at lunch time on Friday to see what the missing link could be.
Sure, the idea of a parade might seem corny. Perhaps the notion of marching bands and baton twirlers don’t belong in this decade (or this hemisphere). The Grand Final Parade in Melbourne, though, draws big crowds each year, especially when two local teams take the big stage.
If you were an alien that landed on George Street in late September, you would be forgiven for not knowing that an NRL Grand Final was around the corner. There would be very little evidence at street level to say that you were in the Rugby League HQ.
Zip down to Swanston Street in Melbourne in your UFO, and it would be a completely different story. Coloured banners would proudly adorn the entrance to Flinders Street Station, street performers would toot club theme songs on their horns.
Land your UFO at just the right time in Melbourne, and you’ll encounter another foreign curiosity – the AFL Grand Final Parade.
The parade down Swanston Street regularly draws impressive crowds of over 100,000 people – just as many as you’d expect to flow through the turnstiles on Saturday for the game.
The real beauty of the parade, though, is that many people who attend would be supporters that couldn’t get their hands on tickets. They get to see the players up close and in the flesh, even though they will be watching from afar on their TV the next day.
So the question must be asked, could a Grand Final Parade work down George Street? And even if it worked logistically, would anyone even show up?
Sydney is a big, dispersed city – and so are its rugby league clubs. Perhaps the Grand Final Parade is a quaint idea for a quaint city like Melbourne; not a big global gateway like Sydney.
But just remember, while you sit in your air conditioned corporate box at ANZ Stadium on Sunday night, someone out there never even had a shot at getting tickets to the big game, and maybe never will. A Sydney Grand Final Parade could just make some kid’s day.
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September 28th 2012 @ 6:24am
peeeko said | September 28th 2012 @ 6:24am | Report comment
i dont think sydney is too important i think that Melbournites are just a bit more into their main football code than sydney people
September 28th 2012 @ 7:15am
Lucan said | September 28th 2012 @ 7:15am | Report comment
How hard is it to get NRL Grand Final tickets? I thought there was a sizeable public allocation, especially in comparison to the AFL.
September 28th 2012 @ 2:19pm
Go warriors said | September 28th 2012 @ 2:19pm | Report comment
Lucan it is very hard to get tickets. Basicly tickets go on sale about 4 weeks before the grand final and they are usually sold out within a couple of days.
If you want to wait to see if your team makes the grand final as I did last year it is an absolute nightmare. The only way is to go on ebay and buy tickets from fans whose teams did not make it.
September 28th 2012 @ 10:46pm
Jack Russell said | September 28th 2012 @ 10:46pm | Report comment
What are you talking about? Tickets are still available through ticketek. Appear to be just single seats only, but anyone can get online and buy one.
September 28th 2012 @ 9:03am
Australian Rules said | September 28th 2012 @ 9:03am | Report comment
I’ve been down for the GF Parade a few times and it really is something special.
Usually there’s 100,000 lining the streets…but to highlight how mad they are, even in 2006 when there were non-Victorian teams in the GF, there was still 75,000 at the parade!
September 28th 2012 @ 9:19am
B.A Sports said | September 28th 2012 @ 9:19am | Report comment
Its harder to schedule a parade in the streets of Sydney.
1. You have to hope there is no violent protest going on already.
b. you have to deal with the unhappy cyclists who you are inconveniencing by closing THEIR roads
iii. you have to be able to get into the city.
Seriously, it is what peeko said, Melbournians just care more about their football, their sport and for events in general.
I work out in Sydney Olympic Park, there has been a bit of activity going on out their all week with lots of people walking around in jerseys. I wouldn’t say it is great, but it is an improvement on what the NRL has done (Ie nothing) in the past.
September 28th 2012 @ 9:41am
damoinaus said | September 28th 2012 @ 9:41am | Report comment
Is a parade one of those “build it and they will come” type events, or are we just that hopeless in Sydney?
September 28th 2012 @ 9:28am
TC said | September 28th 2012 @ 9:28am | Report comment
These things sort of just develop, and before you know it, it’s big.
You just have to let things take their natural course.
It’s good for the sports (and cities for that matter) to have their points of difference.
TC
September 28th 2012 @ 9:46am
damoinaus said | September 28th 2012 @ 9:46am | Report comment
I agree…some things just grow organically over the years, but it does take a vision and a bit of risk taking for anything big to start.
It’s just a shame that the point of difference between Melbourne and Sydney is that one city seems to care, and the other one doesn’t.
September 30th 2012 @ 11:41am
Cugel said | September 30th 2012 @ 11:41am | Report comment
Not being fixated with a professional sport is normal behaviour.
September 30th 2012 @ 12:26pm
Australian Rules said | September 30th 2012 @ 12:26pm | Report comment
no it’s not
September 28th 2012 @ 9:58am
Nostradamus said | September 28th 2012 @ 9:58am | Report comment
Did the NRL club members get first dib at GF tickets early andthen a certain number set aside for the participating clubs…
September 28th 2012 @ 10:15am
Chris Chard said | September 28th 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
Hi Damoinous
On Boots and All once they showed a rugby league pre-season parade that was held in the 80s (82?). All the teams got on the back of trucks and paraded through the city.
Think it went down like a fart at a funeral (or so according to Vossy)
As for a GF parade though they did something at the Opera house with the Dragons and Roosters in 2010, I thought that was going to be an ongoing event? Anyway some greater structure of events in the Grand Final week would be beneficial I think.
CC
September 28th 2012 @ 10:46am
damoinaus said | September 28th 2012 @ 10:46am | Report comment
Gee I miss Boots and All…and Vossy. sigh.
Anyway…you’re right, maybe the answer isn’t necessarily in a parade. But an annual event, at the same time, at the same place, would be a great start.
I was living in Melbourne during the 2010 GF, and the event at the Opera House looked sensational. Having two Sydney teams in the GF helped…but a recurring event in the city might just be the answer.
September 28th 2012 @ 12:02pm
soapit said | September 28th 2012 @ 12:02pm | Report comment
can we just try and not copy every idea from every sport around the world.
let em have their parade, its something different for them.
September 28th 2012 @ 12:04pm
plenty of ticks said | September 28th 2012 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
Tickets! Ive had mine for sale on ebay for 5 days at a reduced price and cant even get a bid, theres 14 pages of them for sale on there. It seems people cant give them away. Its no sell out i can assure you and there will be lots of empty seats. The NRL by back scheme is a farce.
September 28th 2012 @ 1:30pm
Dogs Of War said | September 28th 2012 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
Level 6 tickets? If so I am better off watching it at home than sitting up there.
September 28th 2012 @ 3:03pm
plenty of ticks said | September 28th 2012 @ 3:03pm | Report comment
No not level 6. Lower level bay 114 and parking. And ive listed them for $100 less than i paid.
September 28th 2012 @ 3:54pm
clipper said | September 28th 2012 @ 3:54pm | Report comment
plenty of ticks – that’s amazing. Just looked it up 461 NRL tickets for sale and in contrast 28 entries for AFL tickets for sale – but they are just about all for people wanting tickets apart from someone wanting $800 for their ticket.
September 28th 2012 @ 4:13pm
Matt_S said | September 28th 2012 @ 4:13pm | Report comment
Clipper, it seems the Swans have a few thousand ex South Melbourne supporters based down there that would still drive ticket sales. Contrast that to the Storm, once they made the GF, thousands of Souths/other club members want to offload their tiks. My original group of 4, 3 opted out, weren’t even bothered to sell their tickets but I was determined to go regardless and now have the opportunity to take 3 victorian novices to their first GF.
September 28th 2012 @ 7:21pm
clipper said | September 28th 2012 @ 7:21pm | Report comment
Matt S – this may be the difference between the two cities. Melbourne fans will go because it is the GF, Sydney fans will go because their team is playing in the GF
September 28th 2012 @ 2:39pm
Matt_S said | September 28th 2012 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
The buy back system is a farce with the date of c;osing before both GF teams are known.
I know heaps of Souths supporters who bought tickets way back that are trying to offload. league is tribal and most couldn’t ccare less about the GF as an évent’. They just want to see their teams play. The GF is sold out but how many won’t be able to offload their tickets, and decides to go, remains to be seen.
September 28th 2012 @ 12:07pm
teecee said | September 28th 2012 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
I have lived in Sydney & Melbourne. The main difference I think is the suburban support. I bet in places like Bankstown, Revesby, Padstow etc there will be shops filled with decorations etc.. and a decent vibe in those shiopping precincts. However here in Melbourne, becuase the majority of AFL clubs have inner city bases (Carlton, Collingwood, Fitzrory, Hawthorn etc) it is natural to do something in the CBD.
September 28th 2012 @ 1:15pm
clipper said | September 28th 2012 @ 1:15pm | Report comment
You could be on to something there teecee. Driving through Canterbury, Padstow etc there is a smattering of blue and white, but driving through the inner city or eastern suburbs, I have yet to come across the same combination and nothing of the Storm anywhere.
Souths, Easts and Balmain have inner city bases, so I don’t know if your other theory holds up.
September 28th 2012 @ 7:28pm
soapit said | September 28th 2012 @ 7:28pm | Report comment
why would there be anything for the storm in sydney?
September 29th 2012 @ 11:45am
Crosscoder said | September 29th 2012 @ 11:45am | Report comment
On hols on the GC ,have seen more than a fair share of Bulldogs and Storm regalia worn by fans.In addition to Cowboys,Sharks,Eels and Dragons .Souths followers everywhere up here.
The GF is a sellout,and unwanted tickets will be scooped up.Hard to visualise any problem.
Scoop!! No Storm gear in the Eastern Suburbs.”Code in crisis”.
Walk regularly with mates on Sunday mornings on the Eastern Suburbs beachfronts,Rabbitoh’ s and Roosters caps seen regularly.Even Mr Meriton with his Tiger’s cap.Demographics!!!!!!!
September 28th 2012 @ 1:29pm
Deedzy said | September 28th 2012 @ 1:29pm | Report comment
It is school holidays in Melbourne and the parade is a chance for the kids to see their heros. Not only the fans of the 2 clubs go and it’s a great introduction for kids to get involved in the AFL. This is where the future is for the AFL.