Jockey Nash Rawiller riding Pierro wins race 3 at Royal Randwick Racecourse in Sydney on Saturday, April 28, 2012.
With no metropolitan racing on Saturday, Moonee Valley showcases the Group Two Stutt Stakes on AFL Grand Final eve.
For three-year-olds run over a mile, the race jumps at 9:45pm AEST tonight. Join us in the lead up to the start for full coverage and live blog.
Tonight would usually play host to the Group One Manikato Stakes (1200m), however this year it has been moved to October to headline the first installment of the two-day Cox Plate carnival.
The Stutt Stakes is named in honour of Moonee Valley Racing Club’s former chairman Bill Stutt. It is a traditional lead up event for the Group 1 Caulfield Guineas which is also run over a mile.
Multiple Group 1 winner Whobegotyou won the event in 2008. A number of former winners including Zabeel (1989), Canny Lad (1990), Encosta De Lago (1996) and Red Dazzler (2005) have gone on to successful stud careers.
Another boom colt hoping to emulate the stud success of these great champions is the Gai Waterhouse trained and undefeated Pierro.
Already a three-time Group One winner among juveniles, Pierro ($1.15f) is using the race as a lead in to the Caulfield Guineas en route to the Cox Plate.
Pierro takes the number one saddle cloth in the 8 horse field.
The other entries are:
The promising Tony McEvoy trained colt Jimando who has returned with two consecutive wins this spring. McEvoy says the horse’s performance will determine whether they front up against Pierro again in the Caulfield Guineas or go the VRC Derby (2500m) instead;
Underestimation who was impressive when winning the 1200 metre Listed St Albans Stakes at Moonee Valley back in March;
Road Trippin who broke through for his maiden win at Bendigo on 9 September;
Philippi trained by Michael Kent who boasts a last start win at Moonee Valley over 1500m on 15 September. Kent has a big opinion of the undefeated (2:2-0-0) colt, saying he will be a better horse in the autumn;
Carringbush Jack who ran second to Philippi last start at Moonee Valley;
Adjuster who is yet to break his maiden status running sixth behind Jimando at Flemington on September 8 and fourth behind Philippi at Moonee Valley;
Hey Big Bender who is also yet to break his maiden status.
Unless something diabolical happens the undefeated Pierro (7:7-0-0) should comfortably notch up win number eight.
But Moonee Valley can be a tricky proposition the first time for horses trained in the right-handed direction and Pierro jumps sharply from 1200 to 1600m second-up off a 27 day break.
However Waterhouse said he worked brilliantly the left-handed way at Randwick last Saturday and he is a whopping 28 points superior to his nearest rival Jimando on the handicapping scale at set weights.
Jimando looks like the obvious quinella horse and for a bit of value I’ll throw in Underestimation with the Blinkers off ahead of Philippi for third and fourth.
Tips:
1. Pierro
2. Jimando
3. Underestimation
4. Philippi
Replacing the Group One Manikato Stakes on the program is the Group Two Moir Stakes (Race 6 at 9:15pm AEST) run over 1200m at weight-for-age.
The race boasts a crack field worthy of Group One status including Buffering, Atomic Force, Tiger Tees, Green Birdie and ThankGodYou’reHere.
With the rail out 3m from the true position, Tiger Tees (13:9-3-0) should relish his first time at the tight, often leaderish track. He is undefeated second up (4:4-0-0) and will be very strong at the 1200m.
The main danger is Buffering who has not missed a place his last seven starts (including six at Group One level) and he has a Group Three win at Moonee Valley win over 1000m against Crystal Lilly and Atomic Force.
Also flying is Platelet from the inform Weir stable who ran second over 1000m at Moonee Valley to rising star Bel Sprinter last start and the step up to 1200m looks ideal.
The former Queenslander Ready To Rip has flourished since transferring to the Moody stables for the spring and the softer StrathAyr track should be to his liking.
He is drawn slightly awkwardly in barrier one but if Nolen can get clear running inside the turn he could find himself in the finish.
Tips:
1. Tiger Tees
2. Buffering
3. Platelet
4. Ready To Rip
(- with insight and analysis from Roarer Sh00ter)
The first race on the card will be run at 6:45pm AEST. Join us on The Roar for full coverage and live blog as we build up to the feature racing later in the night.
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10:23pm
Justin Cinque said | 10:23pm | Report comment
So that’s it from me tonight.
Snitzerland, Buffering and Pierro were all outstanding. Snitzem and Tokugawa won when coming back from WFA to hcp racing. And Bianmick has raced into Cup calculations with a comprehensive victory in the last.
Pierro was the headline act and he performed up to the title – his four length victory was so impressive. He handled the Valley and will be so, so hard to beat in the Cox Plate.
Thanks for your company tonight. It’s been fun.
10:37pm
Sh00ter said | 10:37pm | Report comment
Great job Justin. Waterford Hill beat Bianmick 6 starts back, he’s much better than his last run!
10:20pm
Justin Cinque said | 10:20pm | Report comment
Well Bianmick just too good.
Darren Gauci, fair dinkum, the Gauc took off at the 800 and was far too good.
Excluded was very disappointing. He found nothing. Was wide early but didn’t give a lot.
Freuhling was just okay.
Ironstein got home well on the fence for second. Precedence didn’t have a lot of luck. Dance with her stuck on well for third.
The on-pace horses did well which makes Excluded’s run seem pretty poor. Maybe he needs to be ridden more quiet like last prep? Not sure.
The winner, from the midweeks, was very good.
10:30pm
Sh00ter said | 10:30pm | Report comment
I just rewound to watch a replay. Excluded did a bit of work early, got posted wide at the first bend, pulled a couple of times then found himself in front (upside down). They settled mid race and he looked ok but they absolutely poured the speed on about the 600-500 mark and he was left flat footed. Got a check in the straight and in a better field than he is used to he couldn’t sprint with them.
Full credit to the winner who absolutely flew from about the 500. Also a good run by Fruehling follow next run.
10:18pm
nan said | 10:18pm | Report comment
big run ironstein
10:15pm
nan said | 10:15pm | Report comment
i like ironstein in this
10:14pm
Justin Cinque said | 10:14pm | Report comment
Rain getting harder at the Valley.
Loading for the last.
10:13pm
Justin Cinque said | 10:13pm | Report comment
Horses on the track before the JRA. If any of these want to win a Cup then they need to do well here. If they can’t win tonight, they need to be ready to win next time.
For those interested, it has rained all night tonight in Sydney where I am. I’m close to Rosehill, within three or four kms, and it won’t be rock hard dry tomorrow.
A bit of sprinkle falling on the Valley circuit too.
10:13pm
nan said | 10:13pm | Report comment
gee shooter 3 across the track and it pains me but i think pierro from cav and more
10:23pm
Sh00ter said | 10:23pm | Report comment
I’d go Atlantic from Caviar from Joyous. Girl power! Pierro beat the juvies sprinting but I think the older season sprinters would have his measure.
10:10pm
nan said | 10:10pm | Report comment
mouth watering thought though
10:08pm
nan said | 10:08pm | Report comment
How about More Jouyous, pierro, atlantic jewel , haylist, black caviar over 1400 at Flemington would break all crowd records
10:10pm
Sh00ter said | 10:10pm | Report comment
haha who would win nan?
10:10pm
Justin Cinque said | 10:10pm | Report comment
Yeah it would. Good race
10:06pm
Justin Cinque said | 10:06pm | Report comment
The last race – the G3 JRA has plenty of Cup aspirants.
Precedence and Alcopop have been here before.
Ironstein won the Queen Elizabeth at Flemington last Spring.
Excluded and Freuhling are the progressive horses.
I reckon Excluded is beautifully placed with 54kgs, he beat Exceptionally last time and she was enormous at Caulfield last weekend. Plenty of on-speed horses have won tonight and I’d be surprised if Williams didn’t attempt to sit in the top five on Excluded.
Dance With Her is probably the best eachway horse – she’ll lead and she’ll be hard to shake.
10:06pm
nan said | 10:06pm | Report comment
Hes exciting do you look to the autumn and a clash with caviar?
10:08pm
Justin Cinque said | 10:08pm | Report comment
nan I don’t think it’s gonna happen. Let’s get through the spring. Cav still has to come back and she almost certainly won’t race at 1400 and they won’t want to take on Pierro esp if he gets four or five kgs off her. They will be protecting her record – and they have every right.
10:02pm
Justin Cinque said | 10:02pm | Report comment
Pierro home in 23.7 and 11.89. Good times. Especially off a quick tempo.
9:59pm
nan said | 9:59pm | Report comment
iits almost like we are back in the 30′s so many very good champions we are spoilt , he could win the derby if they wanted to do that as well
10:03pm
Justin Cinque said | 10:03pm | Report comment
He WOULD win the Derby if they wanted to. Seriously, no-one would beat him in this crop.
He could win everything – the Caulfield, Randwick, Rosehill Guineas, VRC and AJC Derby, Cox Plate and BMW. He’s got it!
9:57pm
nan said | 9:57pm | Report comment
mouth watering autumn if we get pierro and black caviar over 1400 and both still undefeated
9:55pm
nan said | 9:55pm | Report comment
me 6.50 looking good for cox plate
9:56pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:56pm | Report comment
Well played nan.
Although don’t jinx yourself. Getting overs is a curse
10:09pm
Sh00ter said | 10:09pm | Report comment
I got him at $7 for the Cox only catch is it’s in trebles with Lights of Heaven and Dunaden to win the Caulfield Cup into Mount Athos to win the Melbourne Cup. Alive but I need a lot of luck along the way!
9:54pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:54pm | Report comment
Gai glowing in her assessment
“He’s very exciting. We’re privileged to see a horse like this”
9:53pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:53pm | Report comment
Gai Waterhouse is taking a photo of the horse on her camera! Well that’ll do me!
9:52pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:52pm | Report comment
Nash: “He needed this tonight”
“I wanted to be as soft as possible”
Handled the track “like he’s been here 100 times”
He had never seen the track before. Not even for practice.
“There’s still more improvement to come” – as I said before the race.
9:50pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:50pm | Report comment
He’s up and about too Pierro. He’s happy with his work.
9:49pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:49pm | Report comment
Pierro strong late again. They went hard. For mine, he’ll run 2040 on his ear.
Eight from eight. He’s the best.
9:54pm
Sh00ter said | 9:54pm | Report comment
It is easy to get carried away with a win like that in moderate company but with the natural improvement he’ll take from that run into the Caulfield Guineas he’ll be very hard to catch in a cox plate. He was pretty zippy late and I can see him running as well as So You Think as a 3yo in the event.
9:55pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:55pm | Report comment
Yep except he’d eat Sept 3yo SYT for breakfast. Pierro is probably three lengths better than what SYT was at this point in his career.
Remember SYT got smashed in the Guineas.
10:06pm
Sh00ter said | 10:06pm | Report comment
True. Strangely he went from a handicapper rating of 84 in the Guineas to 92 in the Cox even though he got beaten 5 lengths then jumped up to 115 winning the race into the Emirates. To put that in context it would be like Jimando being beaten 5 lengths in the Guineas again, somehow improving his rating and then winning the Cox Plate! That first SYT Cox must have to rate right down on quality…
10:09pm
Justin Cinque said | 10:09pm | Report comment
Yeah it does I reckon. Manhattan Rain ran second. Look take nothing away from SYT he proved what a champ he was but in hindsight it probably wasn’t the strongest CP we’ve ever seen.
9:49pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:49pm | Report comment
They came in at long intervals.
Carringbush Jack ran well. He’ll win something soon.
But Pierro has handled the Valley with ease. Simple stuff. He’ll probably win the Cox Plate now.
9:47pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:47pm | Report comment
The pace is good. Has been good all race.
Carringbush by a couple.
Nash moves Pierro into the clear.
Nash about to ask Pierro for his effort.
Ambles up. He handles the bends well. No issue.
Pierro takes the lead. Moves away. Gave a kick. He’s a star. AWAY! Soft!
The Cox Plate winner?
Pierro by four!
Carringbush Jack good in defeat. Jimando third.
9:46pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:46pm | Report comment
Just about all in.
Racing!
Good line.
Pierro pinged and Nash will go to the lead.
Underestimation to sit second. Jimando tracks Pierro third.
Now Nash will let Carringbush Jack take the lead.
Pierro in the trail.
9:44pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:44pm | Report comment
About to move in for the Stutt Stakes.
The best male horse in training in Australia is about to race. This is exciting.
Unbeaten record to go on the line.
We’re loading now.
9:42pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:42pm | Report comment
I expect Pierro to win this race by two lengths. His paternal side of the family never really won anything by heaps and Pierro tends to be pretty similar. I reckon he’ll lead all the way and win by a couple. I suspect it will be soft.
9:40pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:40pm | Report comment
Wayne Hawkes: Pierro looks fit enough.
Not as heavy as Lonhro or as big (he trained Lonhro with his dad – and I agree)
9:39pm
Tristan Rayner said | 9:39pm | Report comment
Good luck to Pierro. Best horse by a mile. He looks fit enough, tightened up since last run.
9:38pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:38pm | Report comment
I wrote an article on Monday pretty much devoted to Pierro handling the Valley.
So what are we looking for?
Well he needs to handle the bends. He needs to corner well and kick off the final bend. If he wobbles around the bends or lays out toward the near-side or grandstands that’s bad.
If he quickens as soon as Nash asks that’s what we want to see.
9:39pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:39pm | Report comment
Gai echoes the sentiments : “I want to see him handle the Valley”
9:35pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:35pm | Report comment
Who is your main danger Roarers?
For me it’s clearly Jimando. I’ve always had an opinion of him and I reckon he could be a possible Derby horse.
9:43pm
Sh00ter said | 9:43pm | Report comment
I do not want to be on Pierro in a photo finish he has a tiny head! Lol should not be a problem tonight but Viewed’s long snoz practically won him a Melbourne Cup!
9:34pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:34pm | Report comment
He looks okay Pierro but has improvement in his coat. Heaps of improvement in him but looks better than what he has done this time in. He will improve.
9:32pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:32pm | Report comment
I worked out today that I’ve seen Pierro four times in the flesh – he’s never knocked my socks off so I’m looking forward to the day he does but each time I’ve seen him he’s improved in the coat and in size. He’s getting better all the time and there’s no way in my mind that he’s peaked like so many good 2yos have done.
There will come a day when Pierro has his career-defining win and escalates in everyone’s opinion. But when?
9:37pm
Sh00ter said | 9:37pm | Report comment
Sydney 3yos are slaughtering the Melbourne 3yos this spring. I thought the Victorian’s were going well before the winter but the NSWelshmen are proving more dominant now across the board.
9:29pm
Sh00ter said | 9:29pm | Report comment
Am I correct in saying Snitzerland has also been undefeated since the Golden Slipper? Two stars of the future…
9:33pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:33pm | Report comment
You are correct.
The Pierro form is very very good. It has stood each test I reckon.
9:27pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:27pm | Report comment
It’s been a fantastic night’s racing – plenty of favs winning to ensure the bookies are on the ropes and the feature event is coming up – the Stutt Stakes.
Can Pierro buck a trend in his breeding and handle Moonee Valley?
9:26pm
Dan said | 9:26pm | Report comment
Been a night for the favourites.
Who are the tips for the final two races?
9:28pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:28pm | Report comment
I’m sticking with the favs Dan – Pierro and Excluded to close out the night.
9:22pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:22pm | Report comment
Bowman on missing the start – “I’d didn’t want to use him early”
“Once he gave a kick on the turn, they were going to struggle to run him down”
“He did a good job”
“He’s tough…he’s showed it all his career running placings against champion sprinters”
9:21pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:21pm | Report comment
Thankgodyou’rehere was third. A good run after sitting wide for large parts.
9:20pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:20pm | Report comment
Heathcote: “The ultimate goal is a Group One” Heads to the Manikato on CP eve in a month
“Horses like Buffering make trainers look good.”
9:21pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:21pm | Report comment
Of course, Buff has never won a G1 race but there isn’t a horse in the country more deserving.
9:18pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:18pm | Report comment
Buffering wins!! Great win.
Ready to Rip flies for second.
Photo for third.
But that was gutsy. He missed it. He spent petrol tickets. He kicked, found everything and won.
TT didn’t miss the start, had cosy run outside Buff but he couldn’t go on in the straight.
Ready To Rip couldn’t burst through properly. He charged when eventually out and may’ve been a little unlucky to lose by a head.
9:22pm
Sh00ter said | 9:22pm | Report comment
Full credit to the winner must have residual fitness from the Winter. Tiger didn’t really handle the turn and was left a bit flat footed in the sprint home. Ready to Rip has been outstanding since going to Pete Moody.
9:23pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:23pm | Report comment
Yes full credit to Buffering. The on-pace brigade collapsed but he was the last-horse standing at the end. It was a great win. He’s just bullet-proof and he really does deserve a G1.
9:17pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:17pm | Report comment
Buff from TT. Pace slackens to a walk down the side. Cheap sections.
Atomic Force follows.
Buffering trying to wind up.
9:16pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:16pm | Report comment
Just about ready to go…
Racing!!
Good line.
Buffering maybe a little slow.
Punching through.
Platelet and TT go forward.
Buff holds but at what cost?
9:15pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:15pm | Report comment
So almost set for the Moir.
One of the highlights.
G2, 1200m, WFA.
For the last time at G2…
9:15pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:15pm | Report comment
About to load for the Moir.
Runners are milling around behind the start.
Who leads this race?
I reckon Tiger Tees may be able to cross Buffering. Shall be interesting if that occurs.
9:14pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:14pm | Report comment
It’s hard to tell off the telly but Buffering looks outstanding in the coat. The Queensland weather looks to have done him no harm.
9:11pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:11pm | Report comment
He looks well Buffering as he heads off to the start.
9:10pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:10pm | Report comment
Joe Pride, trainer of Tiger Tees: “If we can’t beat Buffering tonight, I don’t think we can beat him”
Says he’s been a bit quiet. Pride saying horse maybe half asleep- “it’s usually his bed time”
9:09pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:09pm | Report comment
I liked the quotes from Robert Heathcote in the press. He sounded pretty confident.
I bumped into a man called Heathcote today and I immediately thought of Buff. Maybe that’s the omen push I need. I don’t mind little superstitious stuff like that.
9:07pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:07pm | Report comment
I’d be surprised if anything other than the top two in the market got up here, so I’m not sure who the best roughie is. Perhaps Elite Falls is capable of an upset. She ran second in the Oakleigh first-up in the autumn.
9:05pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:05pm | Report comment
As Sh00ter wrote in the preivew Tiger Tees is a horse with an outstanding record (13:9-3-0). His win first-up was awesome. He could well be up there with the nation’s best sprinters. If that’s the case, he could be winning this. Buff only needs to be 2% off for Tiger Tees to make these horses look average. Tiger Tees did the same first-up when Rain Affair was off.
8:57pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:57pm | Report comment
The next on the card is the Moir Stakes which will be a G1 race next season.
It looks like a two-horse race on paper with Buffering and Tiger Tees commanding plenty of the punter’s attention.
I’m a massive Buff fan and I reckon this is his race tonight. His form is impeccable and first-up (five goes for four wins and a second) against a field that is not as strong as what he has met this year he can win. He’s been bumping into Cav and Hay List. He should be going very close tonight.
This is the first time, as far as I know, that the Moir is being run away from Cox Plate Day. It’s been won by some greats – Falvelon, Black Caviar, Spinning Hill, Apache Cat etc
9:01pm
Justin Cinque said | 9:01pm | Report comment
TVN doing a special on Apache Cat. He’s loving life in his retirement paddock.
His win in the Moir on Cox Plate Day in 2009 was unbelievable. I can’t find it on youtube
But my god, it was an exciting win.
Oli took him up the fence and he got up in the last bound. I was on him that day. It was a special win.
9:06pm
Sh00ter said | 9:06pm | Report comment
Yes he had no right to be in the finish at the top of the straight and won in the last stride paying $7 on sTAB. I know cos I backed him the start before at $2.90 he blew to $5.50 first up at Flemington and went ordinary hence I could not have him at the Valley. Silly me to doubt a champion…
9:02pm
Sh00ter said | 9:02pm | Report comment
That’s right the Manikato replaced it on the Cox Plate program and so it comes back to this meet. There have been some substantial bets on Buffering but I think the market is underestimating how good Tiger Tees is…
8:52pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:52pm | Report comment
Glen Boss says “he’s a good honest horse this bloke”
Thought he might have been a little sus after being attacked “but he’s obviously too good”
Boss says he’ll improve when the blinkers come off.
8:51pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:51pm | Report comment
Oakleigh Plate (1100m, G1, HCP) is a long term plan for Snitzem in the autumn.
Maybe not a bad aim for him especially if he can improve a few lengths in the next four months or so.
8:49pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:49pm | Report comment
Snitzem wins. He led all the way. He had no peace in front from Obsidian Dragon.
Flying home for second is General Truce.
Obsidian Dragon was third.
WFA form in hcp races is priceless and it works again.
Well known media personality Steve Moran is a big fan of the WFA form in a hcp, I reckon he’d be having a big one tonight.
It’s four winners for owner Brad Spicer today (two today at Geelong) and the second in the starspangledbanner colours tonight – Tokugawa the other WFA spec carried them earlier on in the night.
8:58pm
Andrew Potter said | 8:58pm | Report comment
Easy multi banked. I’ve heard Buffering has come back well.
8:42pm
Tristan Rayner said | 8:42pm | Report comment
Bossy is very keen on his ride Snitzem. We’ll see how he runs, but I’m happy to get on him at the early $2.50 available.
8:44pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:44pm | Report comment
He’ll give you a good run for your money.
Bossy loves a big meeting and holds his form well. And he’s riding brilliantly at the moment.
8:41pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:41pm | Report comment
Ballarat trainer Darren Weir says Broken can win if the pace is fast. I’d be surprised if it wasn’t a flying tempo so he has to be a winning chance.
He won in a driving finish and on protest over the MV 1000m in a Listed race last time.
8:39pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:39pm | Report comment
Snitzem is the favourite for this race after running well in G3 WFA grade last time.
We’ve already seen one horse win tonight in hcp grade after running okay in WFA class. Snitzem’s going to be hard to beat tonight.
The track is playing relatively fair but there’s no disadvantage to be on-speed and Snitzem should be close to the lead.
8:36pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:36pm | Report comment
Horses in the yard for the 955m dash.
Moonee Valley run a promotion where each week there’s a 955m race. And the horse that posts the fastest time in the season wins a Mazda.
The reigning champ is General Truce who’s the top weight in this race. Trainer Ron Maund is pretty confident about his chances tonight.
8:38pm
Sh00ter said | 8:38pm | Report comment
Another good race to bet into. Running double 1,4,5-2,6 hopefully get one favourite beaten.
8:31pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:31pm | Report comment
Nash Rawiller on his fall on Hoss Amor: “Yeah, nah, I’m fine”
8:32pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:32pm | Report comment
Nash says Pierro has settled into Melbourne “very well”
“We’ll just ride him how he’s travelling”
“We’ll just see how the race pans out”
Plenty of cliched stuff from the Sydney Premiership winner.
Says he’s passed every test with “flying colours”
8:30pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:30pm | Report comment
Independant observer, Wayne Hawkes reckons Snitzerland won’t be a miler. Is surprised by Brown’s comments.
8:24pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:24pm | Report comment
Brown: “The lights took her focus away a bit”
Says she may be looking for 1400m. Says she didn’t pick up immediately when asked
“she’s a better chase horse” – didn’t expect to hear that
“later on in her career I reckon she’ll get a mile” – or that!
8:22pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:22pm | Report comment
And as Snitzerland returns to scale she isn’t even puffing. Too easy aye?
8:24pm
Andrew Potter said | 8:24pm | Report comment
Love this horse, did it easy!
8:28pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:28pm | Report comment
There was never any real problem. She was always going to win.
8:20pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:20pm | Report comment
She looked a treat in the yard. She looked too good for them on paper and it has played to plan.
She’s a definite Group One horse and the Pierro form is franked again. This girl ran Pierro to a half length in the Golden Slipper. The Pierro form doesn’t have many holes.
8:19pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:19pm | Report comment
Snitzerland with a big kick.
Opens up as they enter straight.
Hoss Amor tracks through but can’t close. Takes second.
Elite Elle good in third.
Saturn Rock only horse to run on.
Snitzerland did a power of work but was strongest late. Best horse wins. She’s top class this girl.
8:20pm
Tristan Rayner said | 8:20pm | Report comment
Nice win for her. Too good.
8:24pm
Sh00ter said | 8:24pm | Report comment
Good run by Saturn Rock. Fastnet does it again, another stakes winner in waiting…
8:18pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:18pm | Report comment
Brown gives Snitz a breather.
Pace slackens.
Elite Elle outside her. Hoss Amor in traffic. Cornering.
Now it’s on again. Snitzerland about to pinch a break.
8:17pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:17pm | Report comment
Ready for a start.
Racing now.
Good start. Snitzerland began well.
Race on for lead.
Elite Elle tries to cross to Snitz. Speed battle on. Snitz holds.
Elite Elle second. Hoss third.
8:17pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:17pm | Report comment
About all in.
We are set for the Champers.
8:16pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:16pm | Report comment
Horses about to load for the Champagne.
Hoss Amor will start. All horses except for Saturn Rock on debut at the Valley.
Getting ready for a start.
8:14pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:14pm | Report comment
They’ve caught Hoss Amor.
Nash is back aboard. Dear oh dear. She may take her place.
She didn’t fly but definitely opened up the shoulders and had a good gallop.
I don’t like to see that but I once read an article by a racing journo (and punter) who said he doesn’t mind it. Reckons it gives the horse a good warm-up provided they don’t bolt and Hoss Amor didn’t bolt.
8:11pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:11pm | Report comment
Wow!!
Hoss Amor has tipped off Nash. Nash is okay but Hoss Amor is off. And her chances are shot. Horse and rider okay but they need to capture this girl.
8:10pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:10pm | Report comment
Neil Werrett owner of Snitzerland and Black Caviar
says Black Caviar looks the best she has for a long time “but we won’t know until January” when she starts to step up her work
Gerard Ryan “I’m really happy with [snitzerland]
Says they’ll be going forward on Snitzerland. Corey Brown aboard tonight. Last start Damien Oliver took a sit and she was good enough to win. Snitzerland is more comfy in front and I expect her to lead all the way.
8:09pm
Haradasun said | 8:09pm | Report comment
Hi All, clocking in. Should be a good night’s racing! All over Snitzerland here. I agree that she should blouse them tonight.
8:15pm
Sh00ter said | 8:15pm | Report comment
Hoss is done for the race you would think now. One less to worry about…
8:08pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:08pm | Report comment
The temperature has dropped to near zero at the Valley. Brrr.
No rain around for the footy fans wondering.
8:05pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:05pm | Report comment
Horses in the yard. I love the look of Snitzerland. I’ve seen her a few times and she’s never really taken me in the mounting yard but she’s looking really well tonight.
Gerard Ryan says she’s strengthened up heading into tonight and I reckon she has. I saw her first-up at Rosehill and she didn’t look as good as this – no way. I think she’ll win.
8:02pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:02pm | Report comment
Wayne Hawkes saying he’s not sure about the form from last week’s Underwood. I tend to agree – there’s more questions today than what there was before the race was run.
I don’t think there’s much at all between Australia’s best middle-distance wfa horses.
8:03pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:03pm | Report comment
Hawkes says he thinks Niwot is in similar form to last year when he started single figures in the Melbourne Cup.
“And he hasn’t struck a wet track yet”
Seems to be more optimistic about Niwot than Maluckyday.
8:00pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:00pm | Report comment
So we’re 15 minutes away from the first Group race of the night – the Group Three Champagne Stakes where the favourite is Snitzerland.
I think Snitzerland is one of the best sprinters in Australia and I expect her to win against her own age and sex.
Her main danger appears to be Hoss Amor. Tristan showed me a stat last night about Hoss Amor – Nash Rawiller has won ten of the last 20 rides he’s taken for John O’Shea. Nash will be confident of improving that record tonight.
Perhaps the spoiler, if there is to be one, could be Elite Elle who’s only suffered defeat once. But she appears to be better on wet ground.
8:04pm
Andrew Potter said | 8:04pm | Report comment
Part 1 of the Schnitzel clinic is about to begin!
8:06pm
Justin Cinque said | 8:06pm | Report comment
You’re obviously keen on Snitzem in the next!
8:07pm
Andrew Potter said | 8:07pm | Report comment
Yep. Nice multi odds when the markets came out.
7:56pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:56pm | Report comment
Luke Nolen telling TVN that Peter Moody gives the best sprays from any trainer.
The funny thing is, when Luke almost got Black Caviar beat at Royal Ascot, Pete didn’t go off at him (at least we think).
I reckon he’s a softie at heart PG Moody.
7:49pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:49pm | Report comment
Well Tokugawa has brained them here. It was a soft win and a brilliant ride by Melbourne Cup-winning jockey Steven King.
Spacecraft has finished second.
Tokugawa has come back from WFA racing to Open Hcp grade and history says that’s a winning formula. The trainer gave him a massive plug, so his fans could’ve gambled confidently if they chose.
Spacecraft was the best of a very well beaten brigade in second. Cheviot Beach third.
On the back of that win, you’d have to think there’s a Group race in this bloke Tokugawa.
7:53pm
Sh00ter said | 7:53pm | Report comment
Good to see Steven ride him out to the line too. Not letting the horse get lazy towards the finish. Big class drop and he paid well for a special by many astute judges.
7:54pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:54pm | Report comment
hahaha
Good tip by the way Sh00ter!
7:41pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:41pm | Report comment
Horses on the track for the third.
1514m Open Hcp
The trainer of Tokugawa – Leon Corstons – gave him a massive push. If you’re a fan, have a bet. The trainer thinks he’ll win.
7:32pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:32pm | Report comment
One of my favourite things about night racing is that there’s 30 minutes between racing. I love it. You can have a good night at home or at the track and it only takes about three hours as opposed to around five hours during the day.
What do you think Roarers? Should the racing clubs and administrators be looking for more 30min breaks?
7:36pm
Andrew Potter said | 7:36pm | Report comment
Shorter the better. Especially when there’s no other meetings worth watching on.
7:40pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:40pm | Report comment
Yes agree.
It’s fantastic when you’re at the track. You watch the race, then you do the form, get a drink, have a chat and the horses are parading for the next.
The night flies. I’m a big fan of it. It plays to the on-course patrons and racing needs ppl going to the track.
7:43pm
Andrew Potter said | 7:43pm | Report comment
Or if you are at a big track by the time you get to the ring and back to your seat they’re moving out.
7:50pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:50pm | Report comment
Yep! The mail is it will be coming to Randwick in the near future. I’m not sure whether there’s any talk about night racing at Flemington or the like in Melbourne but, as a Sydney-sider, I reckon night racing at Randwick would go off.
7:27pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:27pm | Report comment
Tonight is a bit of a Cox Plate Day preview.
For the Cox Plate itself we can get a look at Pierro who I wrote about the other day. Pierro is here tonight to get practice before the Cox Plate, where he currently is the favourite to win. As I wrote in that article, Moonee Valley is a difficult track to navigate for some horses, so tonight’s an invaluable experience for him.
The other big race during the CP Carnival is the Manikato on Plate eve. Tonight we see three key aspirants run. Snitzerland is one of the best sprinters in the country and she takes on her own age and sex (3yo fillies) in about 45 minutes.
Later on Buffering begins a campaign that will attempt to land him his maiden Group One. He runs in the G2 Moir. There isn’t a horse more deserving of G1 success than Buffering and with no Black Caviar and Hay List around this spring, he can pinch a big one.
Tiger Tees has an incredible record (9 wins from 13) and he can take his biggest victory tonight when he lines up against Buffering at weight-for-age.
7:26pm
Andrew Potter said | 7:26pm | Report comment
Don’t mind Spacecraft in the next race. Good value.
7:30pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:30pm | Report comment
He may be finally nearing victory. His last two runs have been okay for tonight.
7:36pm
Andrew Potter said | 7:36pm | Report comment
He loves the track as well..
7:42pm
Sh00ter said | 7:42pm | Report comment
One of the pair should win. Although as we saw in the first two races luck in running plays its part!
7:21pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:21pm | Report comment
McEvoy said the track is playing dead/good.
7:19pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:19pm | Report comment
Aerobatics comes from behind to win. Rosie’s Reward is second and Arctic Flight is third.
Kerrin McEvoy wins for Darley.
That’s a big boost for Tiger Tees later in the night. At Aerobatics last start Tiger Tees beat her easily.
7:14pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:14pm | Report comment
The runners are on the way to the start for the second race. I feel this race isn’t as strong as the previous.
This is a race for Mares over 1200m.
Serene Star, number two, is a very promising girl, however I probably shouldn’t tip her. The only time I tipped her (and had a few dollars on for good measure) was when she put in a carere-worst 8th place finish four starts back.
This is a good race to assess how the track is playing.
7:18pm
Sh00ter said | 7:18pm | Report comment
Luck in running and Serene Star and Koonamoo got none. Credit to the winner and a great ride by Kerrin.
7:21pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:21pm | Report comment
Yep well said Sh00ter. Serene Star looked to have plenty in reserve. Never saw daylight in a midfield, close-up finish.
7:26pm
Sh00ter said | 7:26pm | Report comment
At this early stage I’d say the track is even. It’s hard to get an accurate assessment from two 1200 metre races when horses may spend a bit of energy with gate speed but I think anything with clear running across the track has every chance.
7:28pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:28pm | Report comment
Yeah fair enough.
7:13pm
Tristan Rayner said | 7:13pm | Report comment
I’m a fan of Arctic Flight – I think she’s over the odds. Another tough race. Better betting later.
6:50pm
Tristan Rayner said | 6:50pm | Report comment
Justin – in the break to the next, it’d be good to talk about rail position. What does it mean for form/speed when the rail is out/away Xm ?
6:57pm
Justin Cinque said | 6:57pm | Report comment
Ok good question Tristan.
Tonight’s rail position is three metres. So that means the rail is three metres out from its true (or proper) position and that effectively means the track is three metres thiner than it’s full capacity.
The reason the rail is moved is to protect inside ground for later meetings.
Rail position effects many things. Pace of the races can be faster because the track is made tighter. How? Well it can be more difficult for horses to get a suitable position so more pressure goes into the race early so riders can find a comfy spot for their horses.
But it can also work in the reverse. When the rail goes out, it shrinks the field sizes because there are less horses that can fit into the barriers if the track is smaller – that means it can actually be easier for horses to get a position in the race, there is less pressure and horses who get soft runs on speed are suited. We usually see this when the rail goes out to 5m+ especially at Moonee Valley which already pretty tight.
With the rail out three metres tonight this isn’t a concern for me. But when it gets out to say 6 or 7m, Moonee Valley has a history of playing favourably to leaders.
At three metres, we should see racing run fairly.
7:01pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:01pm | Report comment
The best thing to do, is to watch the first few races closely and make an assessment on how the rail is affecting the track.
In the first race tonight, the track appeared to play fairly. The winner came from near to the inside and there were plenty of good runs out wide. That bodes well for fair racing.
At three metres, the pace of races should be pretty good and we can get some horses coming off speed to win.
7:03pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:03pm | Report comment
Speed is a key factor in horse racing. When we talk about ‘pace’ or ‘speed’ we are referring to how fast the early part of a race is run.
When the speed is slow early, the leaders have enough in reserve to make big runs in the straight.
When the pace is fast early, the leaders can get tired in the straight and we see horses having an impact from back in the field.
Predicting speed is a key factor in horse racing analysis but is an incredibly difficult thing to do accurately.
7:04pm
Tristan Rayner said | 7:04pm | Report comment
Great answer and terrific info.
7:10pm
Sh00ter said | 7:10pm | Report comment
Spot on.
I’m keen to have a bet in this race. Running double 2,6,11-3,7. Secure the first leg then get Spacecraft home ahead of Tokugawa to increase the dividend.
6:48pm
Justin Cinque said | 6:48pm | Report comment
So it’s a photo.
Chosen Moment and Daytona Grey in a driving finish. Two greys fight it out.
It goes to Daytone Grey in a photo.
Exemus is third.
Generalife was enormous in fourth.
Gold Rory, who led knocked up, while Clinton Affair was a bit plain.
The horse to follow is Generalife from that race. He settled last on the inside, eventually worked to the centre of the track. Gave the leaders about ten lengths at the 200 and got beat by a couple, flying home late.
6:50pm
Justin Cinque said | 6:50pm | Report comment
Just watching the replay again, Generalife is definitely the run of the race. They should step him up in ground. He can win a nice race at his next start.
6:58pm
Sh00ter said | 6:58pm | Report comment
Generalife was super impressive. Didn’t get out before the 300 and savaged the line. Good improvement from a Bendigo 68 although the stable have talked him up. The two favourites were disappointing, the punters got it very wrong.
7:11pm
Justin Cinque said | 7:11pm | Report comment
I agree with all of that Sh00ter.
6:43pm
Justin Cinque said | 6:43pm | Report comment
Horses are behind the barriers for the first race for the 3yo Colts and Geldings.
The money is for Gold Rory.
Tristan’s tip Clinton Affair, unbeaten, remains tote favourite.
My tip Generalife is third pick at around $5.
Sh00ter has provided tips for tonight’s meeting. His tip is Gold Rory from Clinton Affair and Generalife.
6:42pm
Tristan Rayner said | 6:42pm | Report comment
First race sees my bet scratched – ‘Don’t Get Excited’ who we saw come second to Commanding Jewel in a maiden, and has then gone on two win two more on the trot.
I’d probably take Clinton Affair but an open race and anything could surprise.
6:40pm
Justin Cinque said | 6:40pm | Report comment
Guys on TVN talking about Black Caviar. If you haven’t caught up with the news, she’ll be racing again in 2013. And she’ll be aimed at February’s Lightning Stakes.
6:39pm
Justin Cinque said | 6:39pm | Report comment
The weather in Melbourne importantly (for Aussie Rules fans and racing fans) is clear. The track is dead.
Horses for the first are on the way to the start. It’s a good race to kick off.
Keep an eye out for Gold Rory who was so impressive on debut. I happened to be at the local club when Generalife won by five at Bendigo last time and he was very good beating older horses in 68 grade.
It’s a three-year old race over 1200m. I love it when a 3yo smashes older horses at this time of the season and comes back to meet their own age, so I’m tipping Generalife. It may be a big call but he could be a sneaking chance for October 13′s Guineas at Caulfield.
Let’s see how he goes.
6:36pm
Justin Cinque said | 6:36pm | Report comment
Good evening Roarers and welcome to what I believe is The Roar’s first ever coverage of night racing.
Tonight is Stutt Stakes night but it’s a star-studded meeting. The undefeated boom three-year old Pierro is the star of the show but keep an eye out for Snitzerland in the three-year old sprint and Buffering and Tigers Tees in the Moir.
There’s plenty of good racing and we’ll be blogging throughout the night. Please feel free to join in. I’d love to know your tips and if you’ve got a question or comment to add, tap away!
Tonight’s racing is on Sky and TVN on Fox. But if you have no access to that, make sure you get on racingnetwork.com.au for a live stream of TVN’s coverage.
And a shout-out to Sh00ter who provided tonight’s preview!