The blueprint for a perfect rugby season
By si-fi, 29 Sep 2012 The Crowd is a Roar Guru
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Let’s cook up a recipe for the perfect season of rugby. Which one of the following would you most like to see happen?
1. A prominent national domestic tournament for Australia to call its own?
2. The ITM Cup and Currie Cup back on centre stage in New Zealand and South Africa, with all the test stars available?
3. SANZAR’s Super Rugby plans to expand into new markets with new teams and new revenue?
4. Super Rugby franchises to be less diluted than they are now, and more competitive, with far less onerous travel requirements?
What if there was a way to achieve all of these things, without it being absolutely ridiculous?
If I had my way, the following steps would be taken to achieve the perfect season of rugby:
1. Australia would build a national domestic tournament of its own (even if it’s only semi-professional). All three national domestic tournaments in South Africa, New Zealand, and Australia would have a more prominent platform, with all of the Test stars available. Domestic competitions would be played in the August-October window.
This is the time of year when the Australian public ‘come alive’ to ‘footy’ as we move into the finals of the NRL, AFL and club rugby. Traditionally, this is also when the national domestic rugby tournaments are played in South Africa and New Zealand.
I believe that rugby has what it takes to have a cultural presence alongside the NRL and AFL at this time of year. But for this to happen, an ARC (Australian Rugby Championship) is the card that we must have the confidence to play.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not expecting an ARC to compete with the NRL or AFL overnight. But if an ARC ever managed to be telecast on free-to-air on a Friday night and Sunday afternoon during the August-October window, I have no doubt that rugby as a sport would be further embedded in the Australian culture than it is currently.
All it needs is a free-to-air TV station like Channel Ten to see its potential, pick up the ball and run with it!
In 2010, I met a man who used to work for the ARU. He wasn’t a publicly known person, but he happened to be involved in working out the financial side of a potential national domestic rugby competition in Australia.
He was still employed by the ARU when the Australian Rugby Championship (ARC) was launched in 2007, but he left the ARU not long after due to family commitments. The interesting thing was, when I spoke to him in 2010, he was adamant that the ARC would still be up and running today if it had managed to secure a major sponsor and a broadcaster. And that has always stuck with me.
While rugby fans in Australia often discuss the many (small) problems with the ARC, perhaps its biggest problem was that it didn’t start with all the Wallaby stars involved, which I’m sure would have been more enticing to any major sponsor or broadcaster.
2. In order to have a prominent national domestic tournament in the August-October window now, the ‘immovable’ June inbound tests would need to be played in May – a month earlier.
The first Bledisloe Cup game would then be played the week after the last inbound tour match. Then a week off. And then the Rugby Championship would be played in June-July, leaving the August-October window open for a national domestic tournament with all the test stars available.
Moving the June inbound window to May is perhaps a fanciful suggestion in the minds of many people. At the same time, I’m sure we can all remember bigger mountains being moved.
3. With the extra revenue earned from the national domestic tournaments (at least initially in South Africa and New Zealand), Super Rugby could possibly afford to be truncated to fit a March-April window. Remember it’s the Rugby Championship which acts as the cash cow anyway.
But here’s the thing. If Super Rugby were to be played at the start of the year (Mar-Apr), SANZAR would still need 8-9 weeks worth of content to fill it.
What if SANZAR were to only allow four franchises each from Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa? You may think that these countries would then send their top teams from the national domestic competitions (Heineken Cup style).
But for an 8-9 week comp, I’m pretty sure that all three nations would still want to use franchises which included all of their best players, while also satisfying broadcasters, sponsors and so on. This is why New Zealand and South Africa moved to franchises in the first place.
However, by allowing only four spots each, it could possibly allow SANZAR to meet its stated aim to expand Super Rugby without diluting the product, or having increased travel expenses.
They could do this by having a truncated tournament, with more conferences of fewer teams each.
To start with, there would be a conference each in Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa – all with 4 teams each.
AUS would have state representative teams: the NSW Waratahs, Queensland Reds, ACT Brumbies, and a Combined States team. The Western Force and Melbourne Rebels would continue to play in the new and improved ARC (see below).
New Zealand and South Africa would need to realign their regional franchises with particular provinces, in order to decrease their current volume of franchises.
However, if they wanted to continue with the existing amount of regional franchises, they would need to implement a system of promotion and relegation, like South Africa are about to do anyway.
If a franchise were to be discontinued in New Zealand or South Africa, it must be remembered that the particular area(s) represented by that franchise could still have a team in their own national domestic competition, which would now have a much more prominent platform.
For my perfect season of rugby, there would be another three conferences with four teams each:
A conference in South America made up of three Argentinean teams, plus the top team from the South American Rugby Championship (excluding Argentina).
A conference in Asia made up of two Japanese teams, plus one Hong Kong-based team and one team based somewhere yet to be decided.
A conference in North America consisting of two American teams and two Canadian teams.
In each of the six conferences, all teams would play each other home and away (six games each), with the top team from each conference (six teams total) moving through for crossover quarters. The winner of the AUS conference would play the winner of the Asian conference. The winner of the New Zealand conference would play the winner of the North American conference. The winner of the SA conference would play the winner of the South American conference.
Of the three remaining teams, the team with the best for and against record would get a bye week and move straight through to the final, while the other two teams would play a semi-final to determine the other finalist for the following week (nine weeks total).
Now before people worry about ridiculous amounts of travel, this proposal would actually involve far, far less travel than is currently the case. All of the games within each conference would be meaningful and time-zone friendly. And the product would be top-notch, undiluted rugby with no horrendously lopsided match-ups.
With 24 teams across six conferences and five continents, TV revenue would be Super!
4. My perfect rugby season in Australia, and the Southern Hemisphere in general, would therefore look like this:
March-April – Super Rugby.
This allows the year to kick off with a bang! In Australia, each of the four Super Rugby teams would also have either a second XV or an under-20/21 team playing as curtain raisers without any of the logistical difficulties currently blocking this from happening. This would allow the Australian under-20 players to better prepare for the Junior World Championship. Other countries would undoubtedly think about doing something similar.
May – Three inbound tour games, plus the first of 3 Bledisloe Cup matches.
The Junior World Championship would also be played in May instead of June.
June-July – The Rugby Championship.
The Pacific Nations Cup involving Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, Japan, USA, and Canada, would also be played during this time. In Australia, a national sevens tournament would also be played concurrently to the Rugby Championship.
The eight ARC teams (see below) would be entered. It would be made for TV (four games in two hours) and played on Friday nights over eight weeks, with a carnival each week at a different home ground of one of the eight teams involved.
August-October – The ARC, ITM Cup, and Currie Cup.
The equivalent could also be played in Argentina and other countries.
In Australia, the ARC would need to be completely focused on having the right structure, with carefully chosen teams, while also being financially viable.
To start with, I would have two pools of four teams each. Every team would play home and away matches against the other teams in their pool (six games each). The top two teams from each pool would move through for crossover semi-finals and a final (eight weeks total)
These would be the areas (though not necessarily the names) that I would choose for the ARC teams:
Pool A
Sydney North Harbour
Sydney South Harbour
Western Sydney
Canberra
Pool B
Brisbane North
Brisbane South
Melbourne Rebels
Western Force
While Pool B would involve plane travel, and Pool A would only require bus travel, the overall costs would be shared between all teams, thus reducing the travel expenses of the old ARC.
As the competition stabilised, the format could be changed so that every team played all of the others. New teams could possibly be added from the Gold Coast, Central Coast, Adelaide and so on.
With real financial stability in the future it could also be possible for each ARC team to have a second XV or an under-20/21 side to play as a curtain-raiser in their own competition.
The final of the ARC would be on the weekend after the NRL grand final in early October. Then there would be a week off, after which there would be a well-promoted Possibles versus Probables match to select the Wallabies to tour Europe in November.
October – Possibles versus Probables in Australia. North Island versus South Island in NZ.
The Possibles versus Probables match in Australia would be used to pick deserving, in-form players for the Wallabies’ end of year European tour. This game would be spaced neatly between the ARC final and the end of year European tour, providing enough time for player-recovery and ample media attention.
November – End of Year Tour of Europe (four countries).
Australia would attempt to complete a Grand-slam of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales every four years.
And there you have it! In my mind, this proposal would make for an interesting, exciting season, with wall-to-wall rugby, plenty on offer, and no boring bits.
If a player in Australia were to play in every game on offer, including every final and every Test match, they would play a maximum of 31-32 games in a season – nine Super Rugby games, 13-14 international Tests, eight ARC games, and one Possibles versus Probables game.
Now, about moving those inbounds to May…
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September 29th 2012 @ 1:52am
Johnno said | September 29th 2012 @ 1:52am | Report comment
-Your business model really cuts and shoots down super rugby. Only 2 months, no chance. Not much money to be made form super rugby under your model, why not just scrap it. Super rugby just can’t afford the operating costs only going for 2 months no chance.
It is clear your model has made domestic club rugby no 1 . NZ can not survive on it’s own and make a fortune. No chance it can only survive under it’s trim down ITM cup version now. I would be open to scrapping SANZAR and give south africa the flick, though. And have a trans tasman comp.
September 29th 2012 @ 4:12am
steve.h said | September 29th 2012 @ 4:12am | Report comment
Its simple merge the Currie cup and Itm cup with super rugby. Instead of those stupid conference trophies use the the currie cup and itm trophies. This will automatically give Australia a domestic tournament. Only the top three teams from the each conference go into a inter conference round robin with semis and finals at the end.
Ensures strength versus strength come the inter conference games which will help to pull in crowds who normally stay away from inter conference games.
More Teams can be added at a conference level
season can start later and end in line with the other footy finals
September 29th 2012 @ 4:51am
biltongbek said | September 29th 2012 @ 4:51am | Report comment
yes please
September 29th 2012 @ 8:11am
Emric said | September 29th 2012 @ 8:11am | Report comment
Yes Please
September 29th 2012 @ 10:37am
peterlala said | September 29th 2012 @ 10:37am | Report comment
Sounds good.
September 29th 2012 @ 11:27am
steve.h said | September 29th 2012 @ 11:27am | Report comment
Oh and do not add any teams from America, they have the right approach of bottom up development and don’t need some artificial top down development enforced on them – Australian Rugby anyone?
September 29th 2012 @ 4:02pm
nickoldschool said | September 29th 2012 @ 4:02pm | Report comment
+1
September 29th 2012 @ 10:09pm
mickybly said | September 29th 2012 @ 10:09pm | Report comment
It pretty much is that simple.
+10
September 29th 2012 @ 4:27am
Post said | September 29th 2012 @ 4:27am | Report comment
Super Rugby is the highest quality rugby competition in the world, yet I see so many people wanting to minimize or scrap it. SANZAR exists because the relationship is beneficial to everyone involved for one reason or another. Australia especially stands to lose the MOST with reductions to Super Rugby as there is no guarantee a national comp will just spring up out of nowhere. Just doesn’t make any sense to me.
September 29th 2012 @ 4:58am
biltongbek said | September 29th 2012 @ 4:58am | Report comment
Yes, Super rugby is a great competition, but it is killing everything else.
Injuries this year has been rife amongst the players, the season is a mish mash of fitting in games into a schedule that is running away from SANZAR.
The Currie Cup has been reduced, it is a vital part of SA rugby, and the compromise is getting too much, the ITM Cup is now played in a shorter time span as it doesn’t fit anywhere anymore.
As Steve said, let the Conferences play a seperate round robin, which can be counted as the Currie Cup and ITM cup, and only then after the top teams have qualified play a round robin between them.
This can be planned better, it means top quality rugby and that is what we all want to see.
September 29th 2012 @ 8:16am
Emric said | September 29th 2012 @ 8:16am | Report comment
It is starting to feel like Australia is pushing NZ and SA to compromise their local competitions to further benefit Super Rugby.. Super Rugby does not bring in the money the 4-Nations does SANZAR could still exist in any form as long as the 4-nations is not compromised the money will still flow. So it feels like the NZRU and SARU are hurting the ITM Cup and Curry Cup which benefits noone but Australia
September 29th 2012 @ 5:19am
sixo_clock said | September 29th 2012 @ 5:19am | Report comment
Domestic comps are limited in potential for exposure to TV deals, where the larger funds are available. We need a steady income stream, and a highly professional management team to expand that interest. 20+ years after going professional we should have those bodies now streamlined and hardcore ready. If that is true is a question not easily answered.
Super Rugby is very close to Test level and it works reasonably well but you are right in thinking it needs to become more competitive with all the teams posing a threat, both home and away. We are approaching that, some believing it to be too slow. We still offer over 450 players first class coaching and training.
Our eyes must always be on the bigger picture which is the expansion of Rugby into more countries. We have a great product with life-altering potential for its juniors and any step in that direction is the right one for our game.
September 29th 2012 @ 7:30am
biltongbek said | September 29th 2012 @ 7:30am | Report comment
Yes, the big picture must be considered, but is the big picture expansion just for the sake of it?
In my view the big picture encompasses a lot more than expansion on a global scale. You need to develop grass roots levels to sustain the expansion at the top. No use having a top heavy competition that becomes diluted of quality because the development below can’t sustain the top.
September 29th 2012 @ 9:10am
sixo_clock said | September 29th 2012 @ 9:10am | Report comment
Not sure I understand fully your thoughts as an objection. Expansion is necessary because we do have something of real value to offer our youth which is the ability to contribute and lead in a pressured team environment. A very important lesson for them. We have no illusions about the place of Rugby in the world, it is a great game teaching core basic truths relevant for all.
This is not at odds with grassroots Rugby development as those, with both the ability, and who enjoy training, will be able to consider a career path into Super Rugby and then Test selection. It would be remiss of franchises not to be proactive in supporting school and club games and training. Super Rugby is a money-generating showcase environment which bridges the gap from all amateur levels to Test honours. It is the way forward and comps like the ITM and Currie are being sidelined because now there is a new arrangement with real money, professional management and structure for those players to advance.
There are always some who look back too fondly, and others who look forward with rose coloured glasses. Considered balance is the key.
September 29th 2012 @ 3:17pm
biltongbek said | September 29th 2012 @ 3:17pm | Report comment
Six O”Clock, Super rugby is at odds with development, the more time it takes away from what made SA and NZ rugby great in the first place the bigger the gap will become between grass roots and Super Rugby. Currie Cup is the vehicle that prepares players for Super rugby by negating it as an important tool is totally unacceptable.
Super Rugby is not in Place of Currie Cup, it is supposed to be the best of the best.
September 29th 2012 @ 4:14pm
sixo_clock said | September 29th 2012 @ 4:14pm | Report comment
It will challenge the ‘Cups’ validity simply because we have entered the professional era. I take your point about the chance that there will be a disconnect but it is in the franchises’, the various RUs’ best interests to bridge that gap, to be an integral part of the development of juniors and not to isolate themselves. See what the Rebels are doing in Melbourne with their players adopting schools and clubs and that is also true for the Brumbies and maybe the Force. The problem is being adressed by our expansion clubs. And surely there was a gap even in the days of yore, especially when ‘elite’ players had jobs and study to attend. They had little time for the grassroots. Clubs can provide for the future players.
September 29th 2012 @ 5:17pm
biltongbek said | September 29th 2012 @ 5:17pm | Report comment
The situation in SA is that the clubs are totally amateur, it is community based and a collection of these clubs are the feeders for the Provincial teams, which again are the feeders for the Super rugby Franchises, in addition to the amateur club level you have the universities with the varsity Cup that has been an integral part of development in SA, many of the universities will use the Craven School rugby week to scout talent as well as the Provincial sides that will use them for the U19 and U21 Currie cup.
This system has been around for a long time and has proven to provide the necessary levels for players to grow into and ultimately become star players.
During the SUper XV, the Vodacom cup provides many of the otherwise not contracted players opportunities to prove to provincial sides their worth.
So our system as it stands is pretty effective, but the balance is vital.
I have no issue with the Super rugby concept, as long as it completes within the time span before the June test series and no longer. Whether you want more teams or not, it must fit into that time frame.
September 30th 2012 @ 6:57am
sixo_clock said | September 30th 2012 @ 6:57am | Report comment
Fair enough, but good luck trying to convince SANZAR that they can only operate from late feb to june. Thats leaves 3 winter months of ideal playing conditions to a lower tier of Rugby. Even a game in feb has special laws re: drinks breaks to deal with overheating and dehydration.
Your views are too conservative, supporting an insular view of Rugby, which you share with some Kiwis who miss the supremacy of what is now the ITM Cup. Professionalism is vital to our code and some local sacrifices need to be made to stay competitive in the war being fought for the Fox, and advertisers dollars at the corporate level.
September 29th 2012 @ 7:26am
Allanthus said | September 29th 2012 @ 7:26am | Report comment
My blueprint for a perfect rugby season…
After one too many years of turgid rugby, dwindling crowds and infighting, the Waratahs are finally punted from the Super 15, replaced by a new franchise, the Mollymook Shaggers, coached by Matt Dunning. The lose every match but break the record for most dropped goals in a season.
Phil Kearns promises to donate $1m to charity if he can make it through a single Bledisloe Test match without bagging McCaw or the ref. Charity now in liquidation.
Quade Cooper makes his debut appearance for the Newtown Jets v Wentworthville in front of 10 people and his parole officer. At his press conference afterwards Cooper is questioned about his 11 missed tackles, 3 passes directly over the sideline and a kick off out on the full. In reply he whinges about how the toxic environment at Newtown is destroying his life and if Khoder and SBW don’t get back from the French Riviera soon there’ll be trouble.
JON resigns his position as CEO of the ARU to become head of the NZRFU. There is dancing, ticker tape and fireworks in the streets of all major Australian cities, of the like not seen in Australia since Reggie Bird won Big Brother. New Zealand slips into deep, dark depression…..
September 29th 2012 @ 7:40am
moaman said | September 29th 2012 @ 7:40am | Report comment
September 29th 2012 @ 9:10am
hog said | September 29th 2012 @ 9:10am | Report comment
If Only!!!
September 29th 2012 @ 10:37am
peterlala said | September 29th 2012 @ 10:37am | Report comment
Allanthus, that funny.
September 29th 2012 @ 9:43am
Joslyn said | September 29th 2012 @ 9:43am | Report comment
How about the ARU working on putting games on Free to Air TV instead of only Fox Sport. The biggest disfavour ever done in this country to Rugby Union was the move to chasing the $$$$$ and paid TV. Kids don’t see the game on TV, but Aussie Rules and League is on the screen every weekend….so what game do they play… If we want growth in Rugby Union, people need to see it played….ordinary people. Not just those who pay for Foxsport.
September 30th 2012 @ 10:39am
cliffclavin said | September 30th 2012 @ 10:39am | Report comment
they play football, which is also on fox, but point taken re free tv
September 29th 2012 @ 11:35am
sheek said | September 29th 2012 @ 11:35am | Report comment
IMHO, a successful model as blueprint for SANZAR, or SANZAAR, is practised elsewhere…..
English Aviva Premiership = South African Currie Cup
French Top 14 = New Zealand ITM Cup
Celtic Magner’s League = Australian ARC
Italian Top 10 = (Argentine Campeonato Zona)
Heineken Cup = Super Rugby
Six (6) Nations = Rugby Championship
Why re-invent the wheel when a perfectly workable structure is evident elsewhere???
Of course, the obvious weakness is Australia & the lack of their own national domestic comp. John O’Neill has been exceptionally clever at delivering a pseudo national comp for Australia (super rugby) plus significant financial gain, while the major risk remains with both SA & NZ.
September 29th 2012 @ 12:39pm
Emric said | September 29th 2012 @ 12:39pm | Report comment
Week 1 Each conference must have 14 teams making a 13 week competition+ Semi finals, Finals
NZ Conference plays a round of ITM Cup games
Aus Conference plays a round of ARC games
SA Conference plays a round of CC Games
Arg Conference plays a round of AC
Week 2
repeat
Week 3
repeat
Week 4
Cross over knock out competition between conference kicks off
Group A
A1- NZ1 V Au 8
A2- Au1 V SA8
A3- SA1 V Arg8
A4- Arg1 V NZ8
Group B
B1- NZ2 V SA7
B2- AU2 V Arg7
B3- SA2 V NZ7
B4- Arg2 V AU7
Group C
C1- ARG3 V NZ6
C2- AU3 V SA6
C3- SA3 V Arg6
C4- NZ3 V Au6
group D
D1- Arg4 V Aus5
D2- Aus4 V SA5
D3- SA4 V NZ5
D4- NZ5 V Arg5
Week 5 return to conference games
Week 6 repeat
week 7 repeat
Week 8 Cross Over – Home Games determined by No of tries scored in their first round knock out match – if a tie for tries scored then highest scoring side – if still draw toss a coin
1 Winner A1 V Winner D4
2 Winner A2 V Winner D3
3 Winner A3 V Winner D2
4 Winner A4 V Winner D1
A Winner B1 V Winner C1
B Winner B2 V Winner C2
C Winner B3 V Winner C3
D Winner B4 V Winner C4
Week 9 – return to individual competitions
Week 10 – Repeat
Week 11 – Repeat
Week 12 Cross over – Home ground determined by teams who scored the most tries in the previous match, once again if a tie then the most points scored or toss of a coin
Winner Game 1 V Winner Game A
Winner Game 2 V Winner Game B
Winner Game 3 V Winner Game C
Winner Game 4 V Winner Game D
So on and so forth until you have
Winner ITM CUp
Winner CC
Winner ARC
Winner Argentina competition
+ Winner Knock out Cup …
September 29th 2012 @ 1:05pm
Johnno said | September 29th 2012 @ 1:05pm | Report comment
Guys ITM cup in NZ can not afford to sustain itself on it’s own . NZ only has 4.5 million people too small. Forget it.
September 29th 2012 @ 1:30pm
allblackfan said | September 29th 2012 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
There’s a place for it, Johnno. Just without the big bucks. I’m watching the Taranaki Ranfurly Shield game played at 2.230pm NZ time and they have a decent crowd. Wonder why?
The rugby in the ITM this year has been comparable to the NZ derbies in this year’s Super rugby. There will always be a place for it. Super rugby will fail first before ITM Cup because it’s more vulnerable to the greater financial pressures put on it. (ie Super rugby already ruled out an extra prop in next year’s comp, the ITM Cup successfully used extra props last year)
September 29th 2012 @ 1:40pm
Emric said | September 29th 2012 @ 1:40pm | Report comment
Johno – Super Rugby does not make SANZAR its cash the 4nations does.
September 29th 2012 @ 1:43pm
Johnno said | September 29th 2012 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
Emric that is true but that doesn’t mean i would scrap super rugby . It must make some money otherwise they would not keep it going.
September 29th 2012 @ 1:51pm
Emric said | September 29th 2012 @ 1:51pm | Report comment
Not really – SkyNZ, and SS have both said that they buy Super Rugby rights because they want the rights to the Rugby Championship (Tri-nations). What Super Rugby does do and why its highly unlikely SANZAR will get rid of it quickly or easy is create another tier above CC and ITM which is credited for the continued dominance of Aus/SA/NZ at the world cup and over their Northern counterparts.
However the sacfices NZ and SA are making to continue on this path have been massive the ITM cup is now in trouble due to the scheduling and the CC has been reduced from 14 to 8 to now 6 teams why? to satisfy the need for Australia having a 5 Super Rugby team it does not surprise me that the ARU is against a 3rd tier competition having witnessed the issues NZ and SA are currently going through with their local competitions.
If the NZRU and SARU could get away with it they would follow the Australian model in a heart beat
September 29th 2012 @ 1:42pm
Johnno said | September 29th 2012 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
AB’s fan I have enjoyed the ITM cup this year. Watched this morning Auckland VS Counties replay was good rugby no question. But the point is ITM cup can not survive on it’s own being the no 1 club comp in NZ. It just doesn’t bring in the bucks. And then the best players go overseas , france etc.
Just read this articles fallbacks fan, you say decent crowds. I’d say what do you define as a decent crowd.
Read these articles by NZ newspapers and internet sites then.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/7745163/Empty-stadiums-obvious-sign-of-NPC-overload
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/7717825/Provinces-admit-to-fudging-crowd-numbers
ITM cup is not in as great shape as what is being made out. The costs are still quite high and the season so crammed
September 29th 2012 @ 2:02pm
Emric said | September 29th 2012 @ 2:02pm | Report comment
Not its not the top 150 players were ripped out of the competition to play in Super Rugby and the All Blacks are never seen in their provincial colours anymore.
Bring back the All Blacks and the top players and the competition will flourish once again.. Also about the money Sky pays about 20 million for the ITM Cup over a 5 year period seprate from Super Rugby and they pay about 30 million for Super Rugby and a lot more for the All Black games based on the fact that from 800,000 subscribers to Sky about 600,000 have it to watch the Rugby so yes Sky could afford to cough up 200 million over 5 years for the ITM Cup and All Black games if super rugby was to disappear but as i pointed out above the unions themselves are not interested in disbanding super rugby because they see it as a means to keeping their national teams strong and dominating the northern sides.
September 29th 2012 @ 3:26pm
biltongbek said | September 29th 2012 @ 3:26pm | Report comment
But Johnno, there is a reason for that, too much Super rugby, compromises on the ITM after years of sidelining the ITM has brought this about.