Argentina vs All Blacks: Rugby Championship live score updates
By Phil Bird, 30 Sep 2012 Phil Bird is a Roar Guru & Live Blogger
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New Zealand's All Blacks wing Sonny Bill Williams vies with Argentina's (No. 8) Leonardo Senatore. AAP Image/AFP, William West
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Argentina Vs. New Zealand |
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2012 Rugby Championship, 30 September, 2012 |
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| Estadio Ciudad de La Plata, La Plata | ||
| New Zealand 54 defeated Argentina 15 | ||
| Argentina | New Zealand | |
| 15 | FINAL SCORE | 54 |
| 2 | TRIES | 7 |
| 1/2 | CONVERSION KICKS | 5/7 |
| 1/2 | PENALTY GOALS | 3/4 |
| 0/0 | DROP GOAL | 0/0 |
Top scorers:
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Important moments:
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| Referee: J Peyper |
| Touch judges: C Joubert & P Gauzere |
The All Blacks take on Los Pumas at the ominously named Estadio Ciudad de La Plata, 9am Sunday morning AEST.
Join us on The Roar for scores, comments and live updates from La Plata.
It will be fascinating to see how the All Blacks respond to the unique challenge of playing Argentina in front of an expected 55,000-strong fiesta, in what will be the inaugural Test match at this stadium.
For a team with zero wins from this tournament and coming up against the dominance of the men in black, you’d think the Argentineans would be pushing water the wrong way up a river in trying to get their first win of the Championship.
But you can’t deny the Pumas are onto a good thing.
Historically they have won an impressive 65% of home games. And over the past decade their average scoreline against the All Blacks in Argentina is 20-25, compared with an average scoreline of 10-40 against the All Blacks in New Zealand.
Los Pumas are a different side at home.
They bring an indelible spirit; something you can’t coach against. A poll on the Union Argentina De Rugby website had 75% of respondents believing Argentina would win the game.
Sentiment or not they have reason to be optimistic. A consistently competitive showing in their first Championship has vindicated their inclusion in arguably the hardest competition in the world, and you get the sense they are building to something in the years to come.
New Zealand dispatched the Wallabies in the first two rounds of The Championship. Round three and they were met with a far greater challenge from the Pumas in Wellington, as the blue hoops scythed the legs off their opponents in a cutting defensive display; faltering only in the last quarter as the ABs stepped it up four gears to run away in classic fashion, winning 21-5.
Fast forward to round five and the All Blacks, still undefeated, will be searching for a win in Argentina to wrap up the winners medal for the first Rugby Championship, and to play their way back to their untouchable form of last year. The team has been running like a Ferrari on the wrong type of fuel, stuttering along in between spurts of brilliance.
Weepu’s wandering about the field like a child who’s temporarily lost his mother, and with Aaron Smith blowing hot and cold the ABs could have an issue at the rudder.
The midfield combination of Nonu and Smith is at its most dysfunctional in their 40-odd tests together. Sonny Bill’s absconding midway through the party appears to have left a surprisingly large spanner in the works, and the clunky backline moves and dropped ball has probably resulted in the fewer number of tries scored than we might have expected.
It has to be said the AB’s scrum has also been underwhelming; largely made up of the dominating Crusaders pack you could expect Steve Hanson would not be satisfied with their inability to assert their authority thus far. Owen Franks needs to start firing.
This of course brings us to the notable point that the All Blacks are doing what all great teams manage to do; finding ways to win even when they’re playing badly. And despite their wildly inconsistent game play this year they’ve not lost their mettle, or a game.
And let’s not forget that Carter is back in the starting lineup which is likely to inject some fluidity into the backline; one of only two changes to the starting team from their 21-11 win against SA in Dunedin.
Aaron Smith is also promoted to the starting side, having come off the bench against the Springboks to score that brilliant try.
Sam Cane has been named on the bench for the first time this Championship, and could be an exciting substitution for any of the starting backrowers.
Los Pumas have not changed their starting lineup from their round four loss to the Wallabies, where they narrowly went down 23-19.
Expect a massive showing from the front row, and a huge battle in the scrums, with a big game from the powerhouse 35 year-old prop, Rodrigo Roncero.
The ABs won’t have an easy time of this; look out for a draw.
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12:18pm
Harry said | 12:18pm | Report comment
Well played NZ but are we allowed to say the Argies were pretty poor? The game as a contest only lasted 30 minutes and during that time they fell off tackles too easily and their set pieces at scrum. lineout and kickoff were all unreliable. No place to hide against NZ and a few were exposed tonight.
Next week going to be interesting against our lot.
12:33pm
Terry Tavita said | 12:33pm | Report comment
abs is the full package, the argies were a little more than nippy amosrasino’s sniping runs..they ran out of ideas after 20 min ..abs didn’t even get into second gear..the opposition is really poor when set moves result in tries at test matches..the abs were doing that tonight..
2:14pm
mace 22 said | 2:14pm | Report comment
All the games the all blacks have played up to now , the comments have been they not as good as the hype suggests they are. Now when they play near to their potential it’s because the opposition are poor. Same thing happened when they thrashed ireland. Just admit the all blacks had a really good game and it was the pressure they applied that made a reasonably good team look bad.
4:09pm
Roger the Alien said | 4:09pm | Report comment
The All Blacks ARE as good as the hype, if not better. In fact, they are the only world class team in the world and NZ is the only country that is really serious about rubgy union as a national sport. In every other country the game is second choice at best. South Africa likes Association Football better when you consider most of their population.
4:49pm
Terry Tavita said | 4:49pm | Report comment
no, that’s not true..rugby is faithfully the sport of white south afrikaans who will not give soccer a second look..they number over 6 million..there also is also a growing legion of black and coloured south africans supporting and playing rugby at all levels..rugby also by far gets the big crowds, the big money and the big tv exposure in the republic..
6:13pm
Indio said | 6:13pm | Report comment
If you rated the Pumas “poor”, how would you characterise the Wallabies’ performance a few hours earlier?!?
11:39am
Alan Nicolea said | 11:39am | Report comment
Argentina’s first try though was terrific. Pity they could not back it up.
11:04am
moaman said | 11:04am | Report comment
Master-Class from Carter—-Nonu was outstanding amongst others. Great occasion at La Plata and I was impressed with what the people of Argentina brought to the occasion right from the anthems.
Have to say that the Pumas should have been involved years ago judging by this season.What a breath of fresh air!
11:34am
Kuruki said | 11:34am | Report comment
Add Read to that. He was brilliant in that first 40. His best game for awhile imo.
10:56am
Kuruki said | 10:56am | Report comment
On a side note i just noticed the picture on this article. That is the marketing power of SBW. He is not an All Black anymore and is playing rugby in Japan yet his picture is used to advertise this game. I
11:43am
JBees said | 11:43am | Report comment
I noticed the SBW photo too K, geeeezz…let him go!!!!! yeah great game ABs!!!!
10:53am
Kuruki said | 10:53am | Report comment
Well done All Blacks. Great game of rugby.
Next week is going to be even better. The All blacks have found the execution they have been looking for.
South Africa are hitting form and they will be fired up to prove to their home crowd they are still a champion team, it’s going to be a cracker match.
The Pumas are going to be desperate to get a win next week and they will be smelling blood in the water. The Wallabies are a walking casualty ward at the moment, and it will be a battle of pride next week.
10:53am
Rugby Tragic said | 10:53am | Report comment
Who has a better fend in world rugby than Cory Jane?
10:58am
Indio said | 10:58am | Report comment
What makes it even more impressive is the fact he’s only a shorty at 1.83m, which makes the timing of the fend crucial.
11:56am
Jerry said | 11:56am | Report comment
6 foot tall is short?
12:57pm
Indio said | 12:57pm | Report comment
I’ve met Cory Jane in person and I seriously doubt he’s 5’11″!! There might be some old-fashioned liberties taken with these personal stats
4:10pm
Jerry said | 4:10pm | Report comment
With his haircut, he’s 6 foot 2.
10:59am
moaman said | 10:59am | Report comment
10:52am
Johnno said | 10:52am | Report comment
Alian Rolland was far better ref than this clown. Still AB’s are a 20 point better team than everyone else, but not 40 , Argies copped some really rough penalties and missed a few gettable shots. DC is the best 5/8 ever, better than Ella, or Larkham or Hugo Porta, or ROb Andrew.
10:46am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:46am | Report comment
Argentina crowd is up and applauding that match. Wonderful to see. Obviously some directed at being proud of their team, but some of the cheer was for the All Blacks class for sure. I can’t help but think this year Argentina rugby, and the rugby community in their country must be getting a whole lot stronger.
10:45am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:45am | Report comment
Cruden is actually a better goalkicker than Carter at this point, isn’t he?
10:45am
Red Kev said | 10:45am | Report comment
Someone show the Wallaby backs that footage of Jane’s fend, just so they know what one looks like.
10:44am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:44am | Report comment
Cory “The Fend” Jane scores on an intercept! Tapped it up and then regathered. Speed away while fending someone over and over again until he was finally free. Wow
4:39pm
Rugby Tragic said | 4:39pm | Report comment
And his is not too bad taking the high ball either!
10:43am
Kuruki said | 10:43am | Report comment
Cory Jane you are just so classy mate.
10:41am
Terry Tavita said | 10:41am | Report comment
most tier 2 countries can beat this argentinean side..samoa, tonga, fiji, canada, italy, usa, georgia..
11:19am
richard said | 11:19am | Report comment
In Argentina, I doubt it.
Have a look at the record of touring teams to argentina in recent years, I can assure you, the win – loss record is very much in favour of the argies.I think oz will be doing it very tough next week ( irrespective of the massive injury toll ).
As an aside ,the action of the argie crowd standing up and applauding both teams at the end was pure class.
11:22am
Kuruki said | 11:22am | Report comment
Lay off the Kava mate. lol. This Puma team will move into the top 5 within the next 12-18 months.
11:28am
Andrew C (waikato) said | 11:28am | Report comment
and that comment, mate, ranks as the most laughable I’ve ever seen on here (besides the fact that WHEN the Wallabies get beaten @ Rosario next week , what are you ranking THEM as, Terry ?
)
1:50pm
Jeff said | 1:50pm | Report comment
Get real mate.They nearly beat us at home a fortnight ago and before that they drew with the Saffers in Argentina.The same Saffers that have just demolished us !!!!
10:39am
nickoldschool said | 10:39am | Report comment
The Pumas can still finish third if they get a bonus point victory v the wallabies next week. Wallabies can still finish 2nd if they win in Argentina and the Boks get beaten at home by the blacks.
10:39am
Indio said | 10:39am | Report comment
Puma No 18 should be cited for grabbing Nonu by the hair..
10:39am
Terry Tavita said | 10:39am | Report comment
argentina look clueless..those backs also need to do some serious gym work..they look very weak..jane, nonu and savea are having a ball running into weak backline defences..there are also a couple of elderly citizens in the argentina forwards who shouldn’t be playing at this level..
11:08am
moaman said | 11:08am | Report comment
You are a hard man Terry. The Puma pack has basically remained the same the entire RC and these guys deserve some plaudits. The Pumas will go from strength to strength.
That said—I would love to see some Pacific Island teams joining the RC too. Bring it on!
1:55pm
Jeff said | 1:55pm | Report comment
Once again Terry you are demonstrating what a total plonker you are.We struggled to beat this same team a fortnight ago at home yet when the ABs destroy them in Argentina all you can say is what a weak team the Pumas are.If that is how you describe the Pumas what are you going to say if they beat the Wallabies next week.
Try giving credit where it is due but unfortunately you are probably incapable of seeing beyond your nose.
10:38am
Indio said | 10:38am | Report comment
I’ve never seen so many forward passes not picked up!! Pumas are playing grid iron with their passing
10:37am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:37am | Report comment
Argentina is averaging a handling error every 1min34 compared to the All Blacks 2min22 according to @ruckingoodstats
That’s hurting them.
10:35am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:35am | Report comment
In this second half Ma’a Nonu has been a big black blanket across midfield. He’s a black hole. No going through there.
10:31am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:31am | Report comment
Hernandez is best at full back for this Argentina side I think.
What Argentina really need is a flatter playing fly-half and Hernandez able to either kick or run from the back. He’s just a little deep and obvious when he plays fly-half.
10:32am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:32am | Report comment
Justin Marshall just says the All Blacks are attacking from too deep. Thanks for the back up mate.
10:53am
moaman said | 10:53am | Report comment
Think he meant that Los Pumas were attacking from too deep Elisha but with JM one never quite knows
10:26am
Red Kev said | 10:26am | Report comment
Well the ABs are finally clicking after scratchy performances all RC so far, they are playing like the third test against Ireland. Everything is working.
10:25am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:25am | Report comment
Ben Smith seems to be continuously deployed at outside centre for the All Blacks. I’ve only ever seen him play full back and wing in Super Rugby. Interesting move.
Also, commentators just said that the halfback Landajo doesn’t have a contract in Europe. What about Super Rugby!? I’m sure he’d be the best halfback at NSW immediately.
4:47pm
Rugby Tragic said | 4:47pm | Report comment
Ben Smith had a great cameo at outside centre then fullback against Wallabies in NZ – another talent sitting in the wings awaiting an opportunity. The rugby factory keeps churning them out.
10:25am
Kuruki said | 10:25am | Report comment
Hansen cleans the bench. Cruden first touch break and offload Nonu under the post. That is the value of 22 players.
10:28am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:28am | Report comment
That was slick mate. Liked that work.
10:24am
Johnno said | 10:24am | Report comment
Argentina still massive advantages over wallabies, tough game for ab’s, BUT NO TRAVEL for Argies wallaby shave ot jump on a 10 hour flight after last night how tough is that plus all the injuries. And playing in tough hostile place in the middle of nowhere along way form the capital . Advanatage argentina, if a good referee i back Agrentina 80% chance.
Ma Nonu really making a point to his good mate SBW, that he is still masculine enough for him. having a great game and a lot faster than i thought. ANd this ref is awful like that niggle Owans the wales ref, he just loves blowing his own whistle runing a potentially great match. Clown.
10:55am
moaman said | 10:55am | Report comment
Totally disagree with you (twice this week) again JOHNNO about Peyper-I reckon he had a fine game; Let the play flow and didn’t mind taking a back-seat to the players/game itself.
10:22am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:22am | Report comment
Im loving the fact Argentina is playing to try and prove their pride to the crowd atm.
10:25am
Red Kev said | 10:25am | Report comment
Massive contrast to the Wallabies, only Hooper, McCabe and AAC could be accused of playing with pride.
11:43am
Kane said | 11:43am | Report comment
About the only thing McCabe plays with
10:18am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:18am | Report comment
Just noticed “ESPN” is painted on the field. Not sure how much of a profile the network has in Argentina. But that’s a pretty big network all the same.
10:19am
Red Kev said | 10:19am | Report comment
I think I might prefer ESPN’s coverage to Fox’s
10:21am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:21am | Report comment
I think ESPN is the best sports broadcaster in Australia. Haha. Not that the content comes from here.
10:28am
Johnno said | 10:28am | Report comment
Huge Elisha all the rugby is on ESPN latin spanish service. French rugby, HEK cup, RC, 6 nations all on ESPN latin America.
10:16am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:16am | Report comment
Julian Savea set up that try nicely then. Drew a group of player and two into contact before getting free to pass. He’s literally a ball of muscle. Must be a nightmare to try and tackle.
Have to say the second guy over the top looked like a league fullback attempting to shoulder charge and got bumped off. Wrap him up next time mate.
10:15am
Red Kev said | 10:15am | Report comment
Marshall waxing lyrical about McCaw’s defense at that lineout drive, he neglects to mention that the maul sack and the pick and drive tackle were both from an offside position. Two successive infringements from two successive phases within 10m of the line, he should have been carded.
10:38am
Waterboy said | 10:38am | Report comment
Rubbish!
12:03pm
Jerry said | 12:03pm | Report comment
He did neglect to mention that Kev, but that’s cause you’re talking rubbish. McCaw was about a metre onside for the driving tackle and joined the maul from behind the hindmost All Black.
2:02pm
Jeff said | 2:02pm | Report comment
Don’t expect Red Kev to agree with you.the bifocals he wears show McCaw offside during the haka.
1:21pm
Red Kev said | 1:21pm | Report comment
Joining a maul from the back and then “swimming” up the side is not legal and that is exactly what McCaw did.
10:13am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:13am | Report comment
Hey stainlesssteve, I’m here. I didnt think I was going to be able to watch this game live, otherwise I would have jumped on from the start.
I got home just as the all blacks scored their 4th try.
Have to say I was fairly impressed with how Argentina went about their work leading up to the try. Not the most creative moves, but there was punch, a wrap around play, some ferocious rucking etc. Great stuff.
10:13am
Kuruki said | 10:13am | Report comment
Great start second 40 Puma’s try time.
10:16am
Kuruki said | 10:16am | Report comment
And the Ab’s hit straight back. Hurricanes back line connection. Get on the Canes next year for the Super 15. They will be brilliant to watch.
10:20am
Elisha Pearce said | 10:20am | Report comment
Agree Kuruki. They are gonna be fantastic if everything pulls together ok.
Barrett should be more improved after being in the All Black set up for a few months, Savea too. Then you add the consistent quality of Jane and C. Smith. Man. If the forwards get some ball the backs are gonna make life hell for some teams.
10:08am
stainlesssteve said | 10:08am | Report comment
Elisha, where are you? sorely missed
10:08am
Alan Nicolea said | 10:08am | Report comment
This is a hard lesson that the Pumas must learn now. There were some tough calls made against them but Carter is such a vital cog to this All Blacks armory and is the best player in the world. His selective passing his second to none. He picks his moments so well. He has such a calm head on his shoulders. I didn’t expect this after Argentina scored early. I hope Argentina can get up for next week’s contest against Australia. I think the hardcore travelling the Pumas have undergone may be starting to catch up to them. When you think about it, the All Blacks have played alot of their tests at home since the RWC and have hardly travelled in a year.
10:13am
Johnno said | 10:13am | Report comment
Argies will be very up for it. Wallabies far more disadvantaged. 10 hour flight today after tough night exhausted, jet lagged a bit. Injuries all over the place, having to fly players over to south america from Australia, who wont get there to maybe mid week coz of having to get visas. Nightmare and playing in Rosario which someone said is in the middle of nowhere more hostile and local than Buonos Aries.
Wallabies will be under the pump and tired, and injured, all advantages too pumas, the wallabies are light years away from this AB’S side.
8:31am
Shop said | 8:31am | Report comment
Australians don’t need a visa to enter Argentina. Brazil yes.
10:07am
Johnno said | 10:07am | Report comment
AB’S are just going to cruise now and take the foot of the gas, just toy with them now. Feel really sorry for the pumas as they lost there way with just some silly errors. But mind you the AB’S are world’s apart from all. I still will back the Argies vs the Wallabies next week no question at all.
10:05am
Tom said | 10:05am | Report comment
argies look deflated. I guess te pace the game and that expectation of showing thier country what rugby is , is just too much to handle…oh well another half to.go. Argies can still close the gap
10:03am
katzilla said | 10:03am | Report comment
Im glad the All Blacks arent screwing up on a style level.
This game is very important for the competition
10:01am
Kuruki said | 10:01am | Report comment
Few harsh calls against the Puma’s after a brilliant start.
Ab’s knocked the stuffing out of the crowd replying quickly with a couple of tries and they have been ruthless ever since. Read and Carter are putting on a masterclass and if the passes keep sticking it could get ugly. Hopefully the Puma’s come out and get on the board early and make a statement for next week.
This is what Hansen has been searching for the past month.
9:55am
Indio said | 9:55am | Report comment
Pumas struggling with the pace of the game – and they’re looking tired already.
9:58am
sledgeandhammer said | 9:58am | Report comment
Pumas also struggling with a pedantic referee who has pinged them for every 50/50 call possible. . The penalty off the kick off was a joke. Take away the referee’s influence and this score would be a lot closer. Hugely disappointing to have this clown ruin what should be a great occasion. But yes, All Blacks playing well, hopefully Jaco breaks a leg in the change room or slips over and knocks himself out before the second half.
10:01am
Indio said | 10:01am | Report comment
Yep, it’s always the ref’s fault! He doesn’t know the rules….yeah right!!
8:33am
Shop said | 8:33am | Report comment
Agree, anything 50/50 went against the Pumas.
9:54am
Atawhai Drive said | 9:54am | Report comment
Savea scores and it’s 32-8 at halftime. This is the All Blacks at their most ruthless.
9:52am
Johnno said | 9:52am | Report comment
AB’S are on a different planet to the rest of the rugby World , wow. White chocolate high.
9:48am
thomas emmerson said | 9:48am | Report comment
Goodluck boys we r all rite behind ya,s
9:46am
Red Kev said | 9:46am | Report comment
Now the.golf has finished, Fox is still showing the crowd and dribbling recap commentary despite.the.guide saying the rugby should have been on from 9am. FML
9:50am
Atawhai Drive said | 9:50am | Report comment
Rugby’s been on since 9am at my place
10:36am
Red Kev said | 10:36am | Report comment
I can only access FoxSportsPlay which ia the.combo channel.of.1,2&3 unfortumately. My main beef was that the guide said the RC waa being shown.
9:53am
Indio said | 9:53am | Report comment
Love the way Ian Poulter played. But the Pumas are getting run off the park!! This is going to be a massacre, scoring at better than a point a minute!!
9:46am
Johnno said | 9:46am | Report comment
Wow AB’S ran away with it some bad luck form pumas, some unlucky errors, this AB side is white chocolate hot.
9:38am
Johnno said | 9:38am | Report comment
AB’S 17-5 . AB’S are light years ahead of the wallaby clowns.
9:36am
Tristan Rayner said | 9:36am | Report comment
Lots of early points – Argentina score a wonderful try early on and but the All Blacks hit back quickly and have added a penalty goal to lead by 5 after about 25 minutes.
9:31am
Red Kev said | 9:31am | Report comment
Great work by the blogger for this match. Roar mods can.we ban people who post a live update thread then don’t follow through.
9:34am
Tristan Rayner said | 9:34am | Report comment
Hi – this is a live score updates article with data feed. No blogger scheduled. Cheers.
9:38am
Red Kev said | 9:38am | Report comment
My mistake, sorry. I fail to see the point of such thread but okay.
11:55am
Tristan Rayner said | 11:55am | Report comment
It’s to provide scores and information. I use the site all the time when away from my TV/PC to find out the scored.
Thanks
Tristan (Roar Ed.)
9:24am
DC of nz said | 9:24am | Report comment
Pumas score a brillian try game on
9:23am
Kieran said | 9:23am | Report comment
All I’m getting is friggin’ GOLF what’s going on FOX?
9:08am
Red Kev said | 9:08am | Report comment
WTF is going on, Fox Guide says “Live Rugby Championship” and the damn channel.is still showing the effing golf.
10:17am
Rugby Tragic said | 10:17am | Report comment
Try Fox 501
9:06am
Johnno said | 9:06am | Report comment
Awsome athpmosphere this is really right up there with the best in the world. Wembley, Maracana Brazil, Estadio Montevideo, preotira when full wasn’t last night, but go check the lions match out in 2009 awesome energy. Eden Park when full, suncorp when full, millennium stadium when full, newlands, MCG,SCG, SFS, this is awesome right up there.