Hawks best in season, but Swans better when it matters most
By Cameron Rose, 1 Oct 2012 Cameron Rose is a Roar Expert
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Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.Another season has come to pass. Another football year is over. And another premiership cup has been delivered to the best team in September, not necessarily the best team of the year.
The pressure that accompanies expectation is not easily handled and, like in many elite sports, the burden of favouritism has proven too heavy for many a team to bear when it comes to the AFL grand final.
In the last 23 years, since the VFL became the AFL, only 30% of teams finishing on top of the ladder have gone on to claim the flag, and the Hawthorn class of 2012 becomes the latest side to fall victim to this statistical peculiarity.
Another recent trend to emerge in grand finals is wasteful efforts in front of goal after early match dominance costing victory in tight games. Often the perpetrator is the more favoured team.
‘Bad kicking is bad football’ is a saying as old as the game itself, and never is it truer than in the final match of the year.
Including the drawn grand final between Collingwood and St Kilda, the team with more scoring shots has won only four of the last nine grand finals.
The Hawks should have been one or two more goals to the good at quarter time on Saturday, but their profligacy in front of goal, mainly through nervous and tentative kicking, ensured that they weren’t.
When they didn’t match Sydney’s ferocity, dedication and discipline in the second quarter, the Swans were able to exact full toll, kicking six straight goals for the term in what was ultimately the defining period of the match.
While the Hawthorn players were hard at the ball and man for the majority of the game, they could do worse than watch a video of Daniel Hanneberry’s grand final. The 21 year old eats bricks for breakfast, and plays accordingly. He never hesitated before fully committing his body to a dangerous situation again and again through the match. I’m not convinced all Hawks players can say the same.
We’ve all hailed the structure of the Sydney defence throughout 2012, and it was evident again on the biggest stage. In the second quarter, Hawthorn’s was ragged, easily penetrated. Time and again, the Swans players running forward were being trailed by their Hawk opponent.
Getting goal-side, effectively putting your body between your opponent and the goals, is the most basic rule of defending, and the Hawthorn midfielders and backmen weren’t willing to push hard enough for long enough to attain this position consistently.
It will haunt each and every one of them. All will have the little devil inside them asking if they really did enough.
Able to finish on top with arguably the hardest draw of the year, Hawthorn can be comfortably called the best team for 2012. The pain of a grand final loss will only be accentuated by this fact.
Sydney maintained a consistently high level for the entire season, gradually earning the mantle of the second best side as other supposed contenders like West Coast, Carlton, Geelong and Collingwood dropped away for various reasons. The likes of Adelaide, Fremantle and North were never going to be good enough, but all are on the right track in the long term.
As the Hawks found out to their chagrin, the Swans don’t drop away. In fact, they’re relentless in pursuit of victory.
Hawthorn were always in control against an ailing Collingwood in the first week of finals, but the mistakes of the preliminary final against Adelaide were to the fore again. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Sydney were never seriously threatened in either of their finals in the lead up to the big one and, despite being outplayed for long periods on Saturday, were worthy victors.
It was instructive that the Swans three best players in the match are about five years of age apart. Ryan O’Keefe, Jarrad McVeigh and Hanneberry represent three mini-generations of footballer within the club. Note that the gap between their best and worst is small.
Watch any of them for five minutes on the field and listen to them for a couple off it, and it’s clear that the famous ‘Bloods’ culture is in good hands.
Coaches will always tell us that their team is a work in progress, that all they want to do is improve. Sydney certainly did throughout the year, so it wasn’t just cliché when spoken by John Longmire.
No doubt every club would like to peak in September, but you need to get there first. Perhaps the trick is to not be the best when you do.
Cameron Rose is a born and bred Melbournian, raised on a regime of AFL, cricket and horse racing. He likes people who agree with him but loves those that don't, for in his mind there is nothing better than a roaring debate. He tweets from @camtherose.
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October 1st 2012 @ 7:05am
sheek said | October 1st 2012 @ 7:05am | Report comment
Hi Cameron,
I don’t feel sorry for Hawthorn because of the irony between 2008 & 2012.
Back in 2008 a season dominant but wasteful in the grand final Geelong succumbed to the Hawks in much the same manner as the Hawks succumbed to the Swans.
You only tend to be retrospective in defeat, & I doubt the Hawks players who appeared in both GFs ever gave their 2008 win a thought (in terms of being a little lucky) until they lost in 2012.
But how gutsy are those Bloods? They never gave up, never, never, never.
I remember reading articles after Hawthorn won in 2008 that they were starting their dynasty a little earlier than they anticipated. But 4 years later, & I guess you could say they have under-achieved. Perhaps they need a few Swannies in their line-up?
October 1st 2012 @ 8:24am
Cameron Rose said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:24am | Report comment
I agree Sheek, I don’t think you can feel sorry for a team that brings about its own undoing, and even some Hawthorn supporters I was sharing a drink with at the ground after the game admitted that it was the reverse of 2008.
As Redb mentions below, there has always been the suspicion about Hawthorn’s mental fragility, while there is certainly none about Sydney’s.
October 1st 2012 @ 9:11am
hawker said | October 1st 2012 @ 9:11am | Report comment
Firstly we don’t need or want your sympathy thanks. it was nothing like 2008, Geelong were a far more dominant team than hawthorn were this year. In fact Sydney were on top of the ladder for more of the year than hawthorn were. Hawthorn were in the game until inside the last minute , geelong were cooked by 3qtr time. Inevitably in a tight game one team takes their chances , one doesn’t. Well done to the swans.
October 1st 2012 @ 9:41am
Pot Stirrer said | October 1st 2012 @ 9:41am | Report comment
well said, to the winner gos the spoils, why anyone needs to make excuses is beyond me. If you cant produce your best on the day its more likley becuase the other team was better and wanted it that little bit more.
October 3rd 2012 @ 11:56am
penguin said | October 3rd 2012 @ 11:56am | Report comment
100% correct. Game goes down to the wire. Totally unliike 2008. Better team on the day won. Simple!
October 1st 2012 @ 7:36am
LK said | October 1st 2012 @ 7:36am | Report comment
Were the Hawks comfortably the best team all year? They started 2-3 and cemented 1st place with an 8 point win over the Swans in round 22. Semantics, I guess. I thought the season was very open, and the grand final itself was also very open. As a Swans fan I’m still not quite sure how we won. We got more out of our unfit and unheralded players than the Hawks got out of theirs. The tackling and physical intensity of the Swans must have contributed to the Hawks poor kicking for goal. Great game, nonetheless. Hanneberry unlucky not to get the Norm Smith.
Nice of the Roar editors to put a pic of Mitch Morton next to your article, Cam. You’re a Tigers fan, aren’t you? Mixed emotions?
October 1st 2012 @ 8:30am
Cameron Rose said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:30am | Report comment
I think so LK. They were 2-3 to start, but two of those losses were by a combined 6 points against top teams like WC in Perth and Geelong, and even in the other they were up by 20 points at half-time – as you know against the eventual premiers! That Launceston game was a familiar tale, as the Hawks should have been further in front.
Your line about the unfit and unheralded players was spot on. I couldn’t split McVeigh and Hanneberry actually, with O’Keefe a close third. Can’t complain about ROK getting the medal though, what a start and what a finals series. His match against WC in Perth was the best individual performance I saw all year.
I am a Tigers man, but happy for Morton. As a 32 year old Richmond supporter, all I’ve had to go on in finals is ex-Richmond players over the years!! Peter Wilson for WC, Brad Ottens for Geelong, and now Mitch Morton!
October 1st 2012 @ 8:14am
Redb said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:14am | Report comment
Anyone else think the Lewis Jetta burning off Rioli was a defining moment. If Rioli had chased Jetta down like a tiger dragging down a wilderbeast the Hawks would have taken that momentum away from Sydney.
Hawthorn have been accused of being chokers and mentally fragile all year – this GF loss proves it.
October 1st 2012 @ 8:27am
ChrisH said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:27am | Report comment
I agree, we’re chokers. Question is, what do we do about it? I’m not paid to answer it, but Clarkson is….I don’t know if I can stand a fifth year of this
October 1st 2012 @ 8:33am
Cameron Rose said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:33am | Report comment
I have to admit Redb, I questioned whether Rioli was chasing with 100% conviction. It looked to me as if he didn’t want to really bust a gut because he feared Jetta would make him look silly. I may be completely wrong here, but it’s the little things like this that we can’t question about Sydney players that we might of the Hawks.
Jetta looked as if he still had a few gears left in that chase too.
October 1st 2012 @ 8:35am
Redb said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:35am | Report comment
ChrisH,
Is about the leaders on the field, too few stood up only Hodge. Essendon and Carlton have similiar problems.
The Hawks need to recruit Jimmy Bartel.
October 1st 2012 @ 9:19am
hawker said | October 1st 2012 @ 9:19am | Report comment
No I would’ve thought Jack Gunston hitting the post from a 25 min that would’ve give sydney a 1 point lead with a couple of minutes ago was more defining.
October 1st 2012 @ 9:58am
Redb said | October 1st 2012 @ 9:58am | Report comment
scoreline misses are part of the game, although Hawthorn’s inaccuracy is a recurring problem.
Teams lift and/or fall away I think the Jetta-Rioli battle was a portent for things to come.
October 1st 2012 @ 10:40am
hawker said | October 1st 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
Well your entitled to your own view. Though I can’t even remember where Jetta kicked it. Even if cyril had caught him who’s to say they would’ve even paid holding the ball? Ala LRT in the 2qtr
October 1st 2012 @ 10:47am
Redb said | October 1st 2012 @ 10:47am | Report comment
Jetta kicked the ball into the forward 50.
I daresay if Jetta was run down from behind he would have been holding the ball and didnt try and release. Its probably one of the few times the umps are consistent. (sort of)
October 5th 2012 @ 3:33pm
William Goat said | October 5th 2012 @ 3:33pm | Report comment
My memory may be off but didn’t the Swans get a free kick after Rioli pushed Jetta in the back after he kicked the ball ?
If you are referring to the incident I think you are then I personally thought that was the defining moment of the game, LRT drops the ball & gets away without a free when he should have been penalised for holding & the Swans kicked a goal didn’t they ?
That was when I thought the Swans would win it, it just seemed to say things were going to go their way.
October 1st 2012 @ 12:37pm
Matt F said | October 1st 2012 @ 12:37pm | Report comment
Mitch Morton bursting through 2 Hawks players (Gibson and Schoenmakers I think) to create the contest near the end was my defining moment. From memory the resulting passage of play ended up with Kieran Jack kicking the goal in the square. I could be wrong on that though. The non-stop euphoria from the win, plus the possible consumption of an alcoholic beverage or twelve, have made my memory a bit hazy
October 1st 2012 @ 10:30pm
John D said | October 1st 2012 @ 10:30pm | Report comment
No, you’re right, Matt. It did lead to a goal. Much as folk have talked about Mitch Morton’s two goals in the second quarter, I think that the contribution you are talking about was more significant in the context of the match.
October 1st 2012 @ 9:48pm
MattRusty said | October 1st 2012 @ 9:48pm | Report comment
Redb, I have lost all respect for you. To call Hawthorn chokers is so disrespectful, not only to Hawthorn but to Sydney.
Chokers dont even make grand finals. I feel soory for people like u who believe your opinions actually hold any value.
October 1st 2012 @ 8:19am
Dingo said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:19am | Report comment
A better headline could have been, “Sydney, I was wrong about you all year and I’m sorry”.
October 1st 2012 @ 8:31am
Redb said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:31am | Report comment
lol not gunna let go eh.
In fairness, Sydney lost a few close games during the season and seemed to be vulnerable to be over-run and lack the superstar forward to get them across the line (Reid in particular disappointing). The GF was one of the few games where they stood up and that’s all that counts. Goodes and LRT take a bow.
October 1st 2012 @ 8:37am
Cameron Rose said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:37am | Report comment
Nice Dingo, it wasn’t going to be long before someone had a crack!
All I know is that it’s hard not to like the Swans. So many tough players, and so many likeable ones too. Pyke was enormous, LRT did his job (again), Smith the same, Johnson was neat as usual. As LK pointed out above, and as we know with the ‘Bloods’ culture, it’s these guys that keep getting the job done, exposing any cracks in the opposition if they’re there.
October 1st 2012 @ 9:23am
Brewski said | October 1st 2012 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Mick Malhouse could do one up as well …. don’t think that is gunna happen either.
October 1st 2012 @ 8:25am
Steve said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:25am | Report comment
A lot of this depends on perceptions: after Hawthorn struggled to get past the Crows, everyone was treating it as if nearly losing to a relatively weaker side was surefire proof of future success. If you look back at the Hawks season, the weaknesses were there.
October 1st 2012 @ 9:40pm
Pete Verheyen said | October 1st 2012 @ 9:40pm | Report comment
Too many listen too much to the media. The top 4 teams were very even. The media shoved the Crows easy draw down our throats. No credit there and likewise the Swans. Both the Crows and Swans proved to be consistently strong teams all year and the last 2 weeks of the season should not have been a surprise. Certainly wasnt for me.
October 1st 2012 @ 8:28am
Brendan said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:28am | Report comment
Isn’t it obvious why the top side of the home and home season has such a low percentage of premiership wins- it is the final system.This year there were three sides better than the rest Adelaide,Hawthorn and Sydney with Collingwood getting the double chance via fourth spot.So first week of the finals top plays fourth second plays third in games where you have the double chance .As per usual the top four make the prelims and now top play second in a hard prelim and third play fourth in a soft prelim.Go back to last year top Collingwood played third Hawthorn in a tough prelim and second Geelong played West Coast in a soft prelim.In both seasons the winner of second v third wins the flag .It inherently means you are at a disadvantage if you finish on top compared to second or third assuming they win.
October 1st 2012 @ 8:33am
Redb said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:33am | Report comment
Blaming stats, ladder positions and the ‘system’ doesn’t wash.
October 1st 2012 @ 8:45am
Brendan said | October 1st 2012 @ 8:45am | Report comment
I am not blaming Redb it is a ststistical anomaly that first plays a higher ranked team in the prelim than second or third when all four top sides make the prelim.IMO it explains why as Cameron stated so few top sides win the flag.Good on the Swans they won with a ruckmen from Canada and four blokes on one leg so Hawthorn weren’t good enough.
October 1st 2012 @ 9:00am
Redb said | October 1st 2012 @ 9:00am | Report comment
This year more than ever the evenness of the comp ensured the top 5 teams could have finished first. Final ladder position is irrelevent. The Swans lost one game (Geelong at home) that cost them top spot or else they would have been 1st.
October 1st 2012 @ 10:05am
Rich_daddy said | October 1st 2012 @ 10:05am | Report comment
Your are clutching at straws. Often teams’s ‘rankings’ are seperated by percentage which is particulalry pertinent this time of year.
Secondly, due to their finals experience Collingwood were far more formidable opponent than Adelaide who has had a breakour year.
Yes the pies had some injury issues but so did Adelaide including losing their Rising Star centre half back.
Adelaide I thought were ordinary through decent parts of their qualifying and semi finals, they finally brought their A game perhaps when Tippett decided to show up.
Perhaps it;s down just to the minor premier monkey.
October 2nd 2012 @ 6:01am
Brendan said | October 2nd 2012 @ 6:01am | Report comment
Maybe you are right Rich- daddy but a percentage of only 30 for top sides winning the flag is IMO too low to be explained as minor premier monkey.For most of the vfl years the top side had a week off in the first round of the finals or before the McIntyre system in 1931 had a right to challenge if they lost what was referred to as the final.
October 2nd 2012 @ 2:28pm
Nathan of Perth said | October 2nd 2012 @ 2:28pm | Report comment
As far as the Pies-Hawks v WC-Geelong prelims from last year go, it’s interesting that the hard time the Pies had and the easy time the Cats had probably trace back to the obliteratingly tough Qualifying Final between Pies and Eagles. With a 100 tackles from the Eagles, they knocked chunks out of each other.
October 2nd 2012 @ 6:08pm
Brendan said | October 2nd 2012 @ 6:08pm | Report comment
I had forgotten how tough that game was Nathan.Amazing that the top side wins less than one in three flags so they must be due next year whoever it may be.
October 1st 2012 @ 9:00am
D.Large said | October 1st 2012 @ 9:00am | Report comment
As a Swans man I couldn’t be happier or prouder with what the boys gave on Saturday, they were superb. The fact Hawthorn had more than enough chances to take the game away from Sydney will eat away at every person at that club until they get redemption.
We all knew if Sydney and Hawthorn played their absolute best football the Hawks would win, but we also knew that if they gave the Swans a sniff the game was back on even terms and quite simply on even terms Sydney is the one team you don’t want to be playing.
Lastly John Longmire deserves every praise under the sun, he broke the theory that you can’t play 2 rucking dinosaurs and win a flag. He went into the GF with a forward line featuring LRT, Mitch Morton and Mike Pyke and made it work. And he managed to turn the slowest most predictable side in the comp into one of the best outside fast ball movement teams in the league.
October 1st 2012 @ 9:08am
Brewski said | October 1st 2012 @ 9:08am | Report comment
I thimk Hawthorn will be there-a-bouts next year, don’t think Sydney will be.
The Hawthorn/Adelaide game in hindsight was a real pointer, and the smart betting man would have been onto it.
Having said that, the game could still have gone anyway, and Hawthorn should not hang their head, Sydney is a very tough unit.
Never say die … bit like Bruce Willis later that evening !!.
October 2nd 2012 @ 12:20pm
Nathan said | October 2nd 2012 @ 12:20pm | Report comment
Why wouldn’t Sydney be there next year, Nearly the same side, add Gary Rohan, these young players are only going to get better, our list has to be the most underated team and if Sydney could sign Kurt Tipett!!!
I would have thought we proved you guys wrong this year do we really have to do it again next year. they have to be at least top 4. Then again since we arent a Victorian team no one cares about us
October 1st 2012 @ 9:51am
Rich_daddy said | October 1st 2012 @ 9:51am | Report comment
How does the humble pie taste Cam? Delicious? It’s not too late to write the Swans off for next season though…..
P.S Also won some money on Ryan O Keefe winning norm Smith. Michael O Loughlin also tipped him on the Mangrook footy show.
October 1st 2012 @ 10:54am
Cameron Rose said | October 1st 2012 @ 10:54am | Report comment
Funnily enough Rich Daddy, one of the aspects I most enjoyed about the Sydney win was thinking of a few of the commenters on here.
We’re all right and wrong in a footy season, and that’s the way it is. I still stand by all of my reasoning about the weaker year etc, and the Swans are the best and being in the right place to expose any weakness.
O’Keefe wasn’t my best, but close enough to be a worthy winner. As I was saying to a Sydney friend of mine on the weekend, he’s actually ten times the player now than he was when he was named All-Australian (in 2006 I think?), so a Norm Smith medal is just reward for a superb career.
October 1st 2012 @ 12:12pm
Rich_daddy said | October 1st 2012 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
All in good spirit Cam, please take my comments as nothing more than a friendly poke in the ribs
. I have more respect for commentators who are decisive with their predictions than those who are wishy washy.
I tend to agree with your comments on O’Keefe. To be honest, I was a little suprised when they called his name out. It was difficult to pick as there was no standout player. My vote would have gone to Jarad McVeigh, and Dan Hanneberry had a massive game particularly in the last quarter. Brad Sewell for Hawthorn was also superb. If he had converted either of his two snaps he could well have won it.
However as you stated you can’t say O’Keefe was undeserving. 15 tackles is huge. He is a totally different player than he was in 2006.
October 1st 2012 @ 12:40pm
Cameron Rose said | October 1st 2012 @ 12:40pm | Report comment
Always taken in great spirit Rich Daddy, love any worthy topic of debate when it comes to football, and prepared to cop the needling if it doesn’t go my way!!
I almost couldn’t split McVeigh and Hanneberry. The former is often so underrated, he just always seem to pop up at important times, and his composure is arguably his best asset.
October 1st 2012 @ 10:35am
Kersi Meher-Homji said | October 1st 2012 @ 10:35am | Report comment
Has anyone noticed this coincidence? Both AFL and NRL Grand Finals were won by away teams by the identical margin of 10 points. Swans defeated Hawthorn 91-81 and Storms beating Bulldogs 14-4.
October 1st 2012 @ 12:15pm
Rich_daddy said | October 1st 2012 @ 12:15pm | Report comment
Best AFL team is from NSW. Best NRL team is from Victoria. The world truly has gone crazy!
October 2nd 2012 @ 3:44pm
Nathan of Perth said | October 2nd 2012 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
Both minor premiers got rolled as well