Time for John Grant to show who is boss
ARL Commission Chamirman John Grant. AAP Image/Dean Lewins
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After James Graham’s alleged biting incident in the grand final, and the Bulldogs’ shameful “Mad Monday” performance, now we’ll see if John Grant, the chairman of the Australian Rugby League Commission, has the leadership to make them pay.
When Grant took office eight months ago, he gave the impression he was power-hungry by flicking David Gallop as the chief exec with four years to go on his new contract.
It was a poor taste decision.
Gallop had kept rugby league moving forward despite so many wrong-doings and bad image publicity, expecially player behaviour off-field.
Gallop did a fantastic job under extreme pressure for a decade, and was repaid for all his yeoman service by being shown the door.
Bad call.
So Grant is behind the eight-ball as a decision-maker of import.
First call, ignore Canterbury’s request to have the Graham hearing put off until Thursday because of the club’s presentation night,
Reschedule the hearing for the original Wednesday night to show who is running the code. The charge is so serious.
The alleged biting incident must be Grant’s comeback. If Graham is found guilty, his suspension must be meaningful and heavy.
Two years.
There will never be another biting incident.
As for the “Mad Monday” stupidity, the players showed no respect to coach Des Hasler for what he has achieved in his first season, turning an ordinary side that finished ninth in 2011 into capturing the minor premiership and reaching the grand final.
The players showed no respect towards Todd Greenberg who has done such a superb job as chief exec in changing club culture, only to have it torn down yesterday.
And to top it off, the players showed no respect to their club, their code, their fans, their sponsors, and obviously to themselves.
Grant must find out who the culprits were and fine those responsibile $100,000 each, payable to charity.
There will be no more “Mad Mondays” of disrepute.
It’s timely to recall David Gallop stripped the Melbourne Storm of their 2007 and 2009 premierships, as well as their 2006, 2007, and 2008 minor premierships over rorting the salary cap.
That took enormous courage from Gallop, and the Storm proved on Sunday they have shown similar courage to fight back and again win a decider.
Now is the litmus test to see what courage John Grant can bring to the table.
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October 2nd 2012 @ 6:02am
steve b said | October 2nd 2012 @ 6:02am | Report comment
Bit harsh their David a couple of drunks yelling out of their motel room hardley compares to the salary cap rorts . Not that i agree with their behaviour but a hundred grand is a bit over the top , and the trouble is their would have been many friends their as well ,so it will be one these guys who will take the fall for the player’s ..And what were the media sniffing around for anyway you could almost guarantee you would find someone who was about to give you a bad look on mad monday ..Why these clubs don,t take the player.s out of the public eye to let loose is a recipe for disaster ..As for the invisable man coming out and doing anything , i doubt it ..As for Graham.s brain snap i agree show no mercy ..
October 2nd 2012 @ 8:35am
Mals said | October 2nd 2012 @ 8:35am | Report comment
I am no fan of the Bulldgos but I agree on the Mad Monday celebrations. Hand out a few fines to some players then move on…
A 2 year ban for Graham would be ridiculous & would be successfully challenged.
October 2nd 2012 @ 8:49am
steve b said | October 2nd 2012 @ 8:49am | Report comment
YES i didn’t mean give him two years ,but i think he will get 8 weeks …
October 2nd 2012 @ 10:59am
planko said | October 2nd 2012 @ 10:59am | Report comment
It will be interesting to see how the spin merchant handles this Steve B but also the big question is should rep and trial games be counted …. ? I am only asking cause I believe this has gone either way in the past…. Eg why should Graham count 2 test matches where as a fringe players cannot count on them ?
October 2nd 2012 @ 11:07am
steve b said | October 2nd 2012 @ 11:07am | Report comment
Planko their is no defense for this guy , it was a brain snap and that’s that ,and they will show no mercy , the fans demand it . He can forget rep footy i’m saying 8 weeks but this one could be huge ..
October 2nd 2012 @ 11:24am
planko said | October 2nd 2012 @ 11:24am | Report comment
But do you count rep footy in his 8 weeks ?
October 2nd 2012 @ 11:29am
steve b said | October 2nd 2012 @ 11:29am | Report comment
yes mate you do !
October 2nd 2012 @ 2:04pm
Pot Stirrer said | October 2nd 2012 @ 2:04pm | Report comment
Brain snap, he had two goes at him until he got the bite he wanted. It should be a minimum 12 months.
UFC fighters get into more desperate situations and dont resort to biting an opponent.
October 2nd 2012 @ 9:13am
I'mastormtrooper2 said | October 2nd 2012 @ 9:13am | Report comment
Steve ~ So is that the Bulldogs, salary cap rorts of 2002, you are referring too ??? Just want to be on the same page mate, that’s all …
Not even Prince William and his wife Kate are exempt from media harrassment and what is put in print … I’m sure every player with a contract will be more then aware what it states about on field discipline ~ misdeamours ~ criminal behaviour and loyality to their club and rugby league … If they don’t toe the line, then they are fully aware of the remifications of their actions … “Every action affects someone” ~ “You can’t put brains into monuments” !!!
October 2nd 2012 @ 10:33am
steve b said | October 2nd 2012 @ 10:33am | Report comment
No i was referring to David’s comment’s above , and yes mate you can’t put brain’s in a monument , but this is to easy a mark for the media knowing full well the boys are on the turps and are going to be a bit wild , they should be kept away , i have been to plenty mad mondays that make this look like a doll’s party . Their not bloody brain surgeons their footballers who have had a tough year , the media need to back off and cover something worthwhile and not drunken footballers who are bound to make fool’s of themselves after a night on the drink .i don’t agree with what was said but they knew what to expect .Cheap journalism and easy story hunting if you ask me …
October 2nd 2012 @ 11:30am
I'mastormtrooper2 said | October 2nd 2012 @ 11:30am | Report comment
Well I’m certainly no wowza, I’m not condoning a team celebration during and at seasons end … But, if that is going to be the case and, or arrangement then the players and the club should arrange “minders”, and a more private facility, with more food then beverage and plenty of entertainment to make it an occasion and not a disaster, media driven or not … How soon we forget what has occured in recent weeks in the AFL and the loss of a lovely young man and talentd footballer lost his way and his life through intoxication … Who do you think should take that on board, and learn from the misfortune of his sport, family and friends … It seems that footballers believe that revelling in Mad Monday is open slather for a good time and bad manners, a right – not a reward … Well now, those Bulldog players making the news for all the wrong reasons, should have to fess up and apoligize at least to those concerned and take whatever penalty gets handed out … Player contracts and club policies don’t fly out the window, just because the season ends … Respect is earnt, and does not come with a life-time guarantee, just like lives, or these young men’s football careers which in itself only has a life span of 10 years at best – If they don’t like the outcome – THey have a choice – Do thier best to redeam the reputation of themselves and their club, reap the rewards of fame and fortune, committ and comply or bid the game goodbye … Simple As !!!
October 2nd 2012 @ 12:03pm
steve b said | October 2nd 2012 @ 12:03pm | Report comment
it was a private party ,invitation only the media were not invited ,therefore gatecrashers !!!
October 2nd 2012 @ 1:17pm
Naught said | October 2nd 2012 @ 1:17pm | Report comment
I can see it now. Clubs having Mad Monday in the cleaners room with all no windows and cops at each end of the hallway. The slug journos would still try and weasel their way on to a story about a broken mop or a sink getting called a bucket.
Media were not invited.. If I crash a party and get verbally abused in the process of being told to leave do you think I would complain to the landlord?
October 2nd 2012 @ 7:10pm
mushi said | October 2nd 2012 @ 7:10pm | Report comment
It depends does the guy who’s party your crashing basically make all of his money off you?
October 2nd 2012 @ 11:47pm
Campaign to return Melbournes lost Premierships said | October 2nd 2012 @ 11:47pm | Report comment
Grant has a big big fail against his name for the channel 9 contract. Stuck with 5 more years of that rubbish is beyond belief. Getting rid of Gallop was a positive move, they guy was an over promoted administraitor at best. He had no vision for the game aand got himself involved in minutia. It is this last point that is the reason why Grant should not sully himself with the dogs mad monday debacle. Set administraitors on that by all means it needs to be stamped out of our game but he himself should not be involved. He has more important things to think about including restoring Melbourne’s lost premierships.
October 2nd 2012 @ 6:09am
Nafe said | October 2nd 2012 @ 6:09am | Report comment
So…. What did the doggies do on Mad Monday that was so bad?
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October 2nd 2012 @ 6:26am
Worlds biggest said | October 2nd 2012 @ 6:26am | Report comment
Steve B, the media will always cover the Grand Final teams movements on the Monday. On this occasion at Belmore it provided good fodder. My understanding was some players were in the complex / office having a smoke and made some unsavoury remarks to the media outside. As a Ch 9 reporter wisely said, just close the window and there would be no issue. Still an embarrasing incident and TG will act swiftly. As for how he handles James Graham, that’s going to be interesting. He along with Hasler will be fuming over this and rightly so. Brad Morrin got 8 weeks for biting Tahu in 2007. The fact it was the Big Dance and visible to millions watching will ensure Graham get’s a sterner punishment. 12 weeks, 1 year or the sack ?
October 2nd 2012 @ 6:30am
Gaz said | October 2nd 2012 @ 6:30am | Report comment
What he needs to do is replace the biased antiquated judiciary with one that practices impartiality.
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October 2nd 2012 @ 7:18am
B.A Sports said | October 2nd 2012 @ 7:18am | Report comment
Whats the odds James Graham conveniently wins a “Clubman of the year”, or “Services to the Community” award at the Bulldogs presentation night just 24 hours before he goes to the judicary. It will happen.
It was no different to Mike Tyson was it? Tyson got banned for a year… in boxing… not exactly a sport of high ripute…
As for the Mad Monday shinanigans, who knows what really happened or what was actually said. All i know is it was reported by Dean Ritchie who stalks player hang outs in the Shire (where many players live) during the off season looking for any opportunity to right something negartive about the game which he has (somehow) made a living from. So i take any rubbish printed by him as about 8% of the truth.
October 2nd 2012 @ 7:26am
Dayer said | October 2nd 2012 @ 7:26am | Report comment
it’s not John Grant’s job, it’s the CEO’s job even in a acting role.
As for the “mad Monday” it’s all in good fun, the players unwinding, the media should accept some comments of that nature when people are having a “few” drinks and “celebrating after a long season.
October 2nd 2012 @ 7:28am
oikee said | October 2nd 2012 @ 7:28am | Report comment
He only nibbled his ear, he did not bite it off, give him 2 weeks, that is all it deserves.
As for Mad Monday, as long as nobody got hurt, all is good, the boys performed beautifully all year, and really behaved themselves as well. Let them have their fun, i think the fun police should be sacked.
Do what i do, don’t read mad Monday stories, waste of time. I seen someone dressed in the Hannibal suite on the heading and laughed. I dont need to read the story, a picture tells a thousand words..
October 2nd 2012 @ 8:31am
Mals said | October 2nd 2012 @ 8:31am | Report comment
If this had been Manly or Cronulla I can’t imagine you saying the same things Oikee.
October 2nd 2012 @ 9:49am
oikee said | October 2nd 2012 @ 9:49am | Report comment
He did only nibble his ear, are you trying to say he bite it off. ?
Mate the ear is the softest piece of flesh on your body, one rip and she is gone mate.
He nibbled his ear, Billy looked fine to me, his ear was intact.
As for Mad Monday, who cares, like i said, as long as nobody gets hurt, let their hairdown, they have earned the right to a bit of fun. We start treating them like polically correct robots, i wont bother watching. One week we have the media telling them to looosen up, they want them to be themselves, next they are coming down on them for loosening up.
Mate, this game(media) is giving me hernia.
October 2nd 2012 @ 11:09am
M.O.C. said | October 2nd 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
I see that your expertise also extends to human anatomy Oikee “the ear is the softest piece of flesh on your body” – not necessarily true, but we try not to let facts ruin roar posts.
October 2nd 2012 @ 7:04pm
Steve said | October 2nd 2012 @ 7:04pm | Report comment
Saying Graham ‘nibbled’ Slater’s ear actually sounds worse than him having bitten it.
October 2nd 2012 @ 7:49am
Crosscoder said | October 2nd 2012 @ 7:49am | Report comment
Graham will be dealt with appropriately by the judiciary,seeing it (the act) was sent directly to the judiciary for final judgement,now to be held thursday.It is not Grant’s decision finally but the CEO(acting one ATM).
As far as the Dogs mad monday ,one player apparently said something out of order.Todd Greenberg will deal with it professionally as he has done in the past with the club as a whole
I am not a fan of Mad Mondays because of the alcohol excess and what can happen on occassions.
With that in mind, I am sick and tired of the sanctimonious media sniffing around like the CIA just to get a story and blow it out of proportion,most of the time.eg a former Cronulla player Seymour who was drunk at Cronulla Mall,received front page cover as though he was the axe murderer.
Yet some of the media people I know, are up with being the biggest consumers of alcohol on this planet.and some behave accordingly.
October 2nd 2012 @ 9:54am
oikee said | October 2nd 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
The public should be warned it’s Mad Monday then let them off the leash.
These guys should be able to have some fun, what are the fun police going to stop us from going on holidays shortly.
I would rather them all enjoying mad monday in oz than overseas acting the goat.
We should do a hollywood, build them a set, a shopping mall or small town and let them trash the joint, we could pay to watch, be like big brother goes ape.
No wonder the players dont want to talk to the media.
October 2nd 2012 @ 7:56am
Worlds biggest said | October 2nd 2012 @ 7:56am | Report comment
Dayer, apparently one of on the Dogs players yelled out the window to one member of the media ” I want to punch you in the face “. That’s hardly all in good fun. Either way it will be deal with. Oikee surely your having a laugh re 2 weeks for Graham.
October 2nd 2012 @ 5:55pm
JayBob said | October 2nd 2012 @ 5:55pm | Report comment
It was sung, obviously not with any intent. Everything sounded like they were hammered and just mucking around. Also, it is impossible to tell who the comments are directed at from the footage I have seen, or if it even was a player making them. From what I have seen they conveniently cut to those comments and that’s all you see, I wonder why
For all we know The Weed was out there provoking them(on Nassers orders) and then they have made out it was directed at females. Why would they send female journo’s to a Mad Monday celebration in the first place if not to fish for a story like that? It’s dirty journalism.
I definitely don’t condone what was said, but all of the circumstances are unkown and we are only left with channel 9 propaganda. The thing that really gets under my skin is the lack of integrity involved by the media. It is the players day to let loose after a long season, it is a day designated for drinking and the media know this. The club has done the right thing by locking them away on a private residence and even gone to the trouble of blocking the fences(little did they know the media would use all resources, even a helicopter). They didn’t take them to a public place so that they CAN be loose, but these leeches hang around all day just waiting for an alcohol-influenced incident to occur; and who knows how much provoking was done because we don’t see it.
I’m glad I came on this site to see there are many with common sense, who don’t blindly follow the media BS that is fed to them.
October 2nd 2012 @ 10:06pm
Huggo said | October 2nd 2012 @ 10:06pm | Report comment
Could not agree more, well said.
October 2nd 2012 @ 8:19am
Dave said | October 2nd 2012 @ 8:19am | Report comment
I think Dave L may need to relax for a moment and take a nice deep breath before raining fire and brimstone upon the Bulldogs. The media always blows these things out of proportion. For example according to SBS World News Belmore decended into an angry mob after the grand final. From the time I spent there all you had were a few hundred fans happy their team made the grand final and waiting for the Bulldogs to return to the club to voice their support. I guess it just depends what 15 seconds of footage you show.
October 2nd 2012 @ 8:51am
eagleJack said | October 2nd 2012 @ 8:51am | Report comment
No doubt the majority of fans were well behaved. But the footage I saw of Storm flags/jerseys being burned was disgraceful. I have never seen losing fans do that before.
October 2nd 2012 @ 5:47pm
Dave said | October 2nd 2012 @ 5:47pm | Report comment
So they burned a flag, not such a big deal no one was hurt and no property damaged. May not be the way it is done in Manly but then again Belmore is not the North Shore and Sydney is a much better place as a result. As a born and bred WASP I have never experienced anything like that and I am glad I did. All clubs have fans who do and say things which others will find objectionable. That is more of a statement on human nature than anything else. Most of the fans were just playing drums, dancing and having a good time. When the police asked them to do something they did. The Storm fans who ventured in we’re greeted with a round of “Billy is a Wank€r”make other similar chants. I’ve been called worse by Manly fans, Brisbane fans etc…
October 2nd 2012 @ 9:29pm
Michael said | October 2nd 2012 @ 9:29pm | Report comment
That’s funny, I’ve seen scenes like that before (burning flags)..
October 3rd 2012 @ 8:11am
I'mastormtrooper2 said | October 3rd 2012 @ 8:11am | Report comment
I thought the news said it was a Storm jersey ???