A professional code built on an amateur foundation
I have been a grassroots rugby man for the past 55 years, and I am concerned about how long the game can sustain itself with the current grass roots set up.
With an uncle who was a Waratah in the 50s, I began playing rugby at the age of ten, became a referee at the age of 16 and played U18s colts with Eastern Suburbs.
I then moved to Melbourne and played with Monash University in the 60s, to Brisbane and played with Redcliffe in the 70s, completed the ARU coaching programme in the first year it was offered and did a refresher course in the 80s.
I started the first mini-rugby comp in Australia at Redcliffe and was on the management committee that began the first major 7s tournament (flying the Ella brothers up to participate).
I retired to coach at Barra Brui juniors in Sydney, was President of the Hornsby Kuring-gai J.R.U. and coached and managed several state carnivals. I coached both grade and juniors for St Ives Rugby Club, second Grade Gordon Colts for two years and for the last 15 years have coached and managed in the Sydney University Colts programme.
That’s 55 continuous years in grass roots rugby and I hope for another 15 or so. That’s provided the code survives that long.
I’m concerned for the future of the game in New South Wales because of the disconnect between an elite professional code at Super Rugby level and Club Rugby. I am writing this article in the hope that enough people will apply some serious thought to the future development of the code in Sydney and actually do something about it.
Now I don’t claim to know exactly what has been happening in the administration of the game at state or even the wider Sydney club level over the last ten years, so what I am about to write is no more that my observations and hopefully a starting point for a constructive discussion about the future direction the code might take.
It seems to me that with the advent of professionalism in rugby, the ARU focused its attention and finances on securing players and ensuring that we retained players that might have otherwise gone to league or Europe.
It meant that the starting point was setting player payments at the highest level and the money could only go so far in supplementing Super 12 teams and now Super Rugby teams. Revenue probably hasn’t increased that much over the last ten years however there are now two additional Super teams and therefore another 60 players to pay.
At no point has the administration at national or state levels addressed building a solid foundation at club level to develop players to progress into the fully professional ranks.
My observation has been that the administrators have focused on identifying talent at the junior or schoolboy level and believed that if they provided these players with occasional training programmes and selected them in the representative teams, they would progress through to the elite level and bypass club rugby on the way.
The problem with this is that those who identify and select these players have a vested interest in ensuring that they do progress. They fail to consider the players with less natural ability but greater motivation and commitment who develop later.
My experience is that there have been more schoolboy stars who have fallen by the wayside and failed to progress even into first grade at club level. When natural talent isn’t enough to carry them into the Super ranks immediately, they don’t have the drive to work on their game and take the two or three years to earn a spot.
I have seen more players with little profile work on their game at colts and grade level and earn a contract than I have those who made the step up from schoolboy star to Super Rugby.
This time last year, a very proud father wrote an article on The Roar about the perfect season achieved by the Sydney University second Grade Colts team. The vast majority of people responded with all sorts of wild accusations and claims that the success was due to S.U. attracting all the schoolboy stars and having an unfair advantage over other clubs.
If anyone cares to respond to this article, would you please either make statements of fact that you have proof positive are fact, or at least acknowledge that they are assumptions.
I have been a part of the Sydney University colts programme for the last 15 years. Yes, in the early years, we did recruit numerous schoolboy stars and they were offered both university sports scholarships as well as college scholarships.
This didn’t produce immediate success. In fact, for five years we only had moderate success with a few teams (In those days there were three grades and under 19′s in the colts competitions).
During those five years however, we were building a player development programme. It wasn’t a case of throwing all the resources at the colts. It was a case of being consistent year in and year out in building the player development programme at colts and grade level. It was as much about building a culture as it was about coaching.
Players had to buy into the culture, commit to their team mates, coaches, trainers and themselves and to work hard at developing their game.
For the last ten years, we have been consistent. Our programmes have continued to evolve, but we have never changed direction. We offer a culture and programme that young players want to buy into. At least, if the players in question are self-motivated and high achieving.
By doing so, we have graduated more players to Super Rugby and European rugby than any other club in Australia, and most of them have been players that were never identified by State or National talent scouts.
They are players who worked hard through the colts programme, earned a first grade spot and were then identified. Actually, some were even identified while still in the colts teams.
If you doubt my claim, and want to perpetuate the nonsense trotted out last year such as “I would like to see the number of Australian/State Schoolboys representative in those three teams, my educated guess would be that there is upward of 20. While other clubs settle for 3, 2 or none”.
But let’s look at the actual numbers. The S.R.U. introduced a points system some years ago in the erroneous belief that we had recruited large numbers of schoolboys and that the points would spread the talent among all clubs.
First colts are allowed 40 points and second colts 35 points. Australian schoolboys are worth six points, NSW schoolboys four points. This year, the Sydney University first colts rarely fielded more than 32 points and seconds 28.
In the grand finals won by both firsts and seconds again this year, our firsts fielded 32 points. We had two NSW schoolboys (four points) and four players on three points (last year’s returning players).
We had another four point player who had approached the club from Auckland because he wanted to join our development programme. In second grade, we had one six point player, playing only half the season due to injury, and two four point players.
The Under 19s who lost the grand final had just one four point player and he was a convert from Aussie Rules.
So, in answer to John Connolly, whose “guess” last year wasn’t anywhere near “educated”, we had four NSW schoolboys last year and four this year and just one Australian schoolboy. On the other hand, Randwick first colts were penalised in the first round for exceeding 40 points and struggled all year to keep under the numbers.
I’d suggest some other clubs also played at close to the 40 points all season.
I’ve only raked over these old coals from last year to once and for all put to rest the myth that Sydney University buys its players. Yes we have sports and college scholarships, but not as many as you would think and they don’t boost our numbers of Australian and NSW schoolboys.
We have a significant number of players who have come through the Canterbury juniors programme and we have been providing coaches for the local representative teams and therefore attracting players from the inner west of Sydney.
Our third Colts team (U19s) which lost the grand final was largely made up of 17-year-olds from this programme.
Then there was “bozo” who wrote “Uni would say they are helping the Parramatta and Penrith juniors … by snaring them to play at Uni and all their resources. (Sic)”
At the beginning of the 2010 season, I arranged for the then outgoing S.U. Colts Coaching Director (Nick Ryan) and first Colts Forwards Coach (Al Kanar), to conduct training sessions for the Penrith colts.
At the end of the 2010 season, Nick spent many days providing a Penrith coach with advice on how to establish a player development programme over the off season.
To return to the main point of this discussion starter, Sydney club rugby is lacking development programmes at each club.
Instead of trying to drag S.U. down to everyone else’s level, we need all clubs to provide professional player development programmes. There are many talented and motivated juniors joining the other clubs however there isn’t the development programme in place to allow them to reach their full potential.
Several clubs introduced their own player development programmes this year and the performance of all their teams in grade and colts reflected this. They need to maintain these programmes for a number of years before they will reap all the benefits.
It’s the long term consistency of these programmes that instil a culture that becomes self perpetuating and successful.
I believe that unless the ARU and NSW rugby union can find the money to support a Grade and Colts Coaching Director for each club, provide them with a development programme model and manage the process, then the supply of players for the elite level of the game is going to suffer.
Football, rugby league and AFL devote considerable resources to developing their codes at grass roots level. The ARU and NSWRU cannot maintain an elite level of the code without a professional grade competition in both Brisbane and Sydney.
A major business wouldn’t establish 12 subsidiary companies, allow them to sell their product but provide them with no funding or direction. Nor would they ignore product development and innovation to maintain their market position.
Why then aren’t the ARU and NSWRU conducting themselves in a professional business like manner?
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October 6th 2012 @ 1:59am
Johnno said | October 6th 2012 @ 1:59am | Report comment
Top down model on the pyramid. And scrap silly amateur values. It got rugby nowhere , just held it balk and allowed soccer and rugby league to dominate most of the world. Well soccer deifnalty, but rugby league in pockets. And AFL too, and gridiron too. USA won 1924 gold medal, . Now USA has signed big sposnorship deal with AIG insurance to sensor grass roots junior rugby, rookie rugby. We need a good program like AFL oz kick, or USA rookie rugby. USA in under-20 world cup 1st division with Australia/NZ etc.
Wallabies test match rugby
Super rugby
3rd tier ARC style deomestic comp/ To include NZ teams trans tasman comp. Those who think ITM cup is healthy think again. Go on and on kiwis do about depth. Well Cantebury beat Southland 84-0. How on earth can a place like little southland in 2012 sustain an ITM cup team any more i will never know. Call it big brother(Australia) bossing Little brother NZ around but moey would help both coutnries with Australia’s input into Kiwi rugby
Under-20 state comp or east coast state comp
Schoolboy rugby tv deal and merge school divisions in sydney
And a free to air tv deal for super rugby, 1 match per week for free. Plus sack channel 9 hopeless coverage of aussy rugby.
And sack Deans ,JON, And Nucifora. These are my business models for aussy rugby going forwad in 2013 .
And a 6th super rugby team in Wets sydney,Adelaide, or Gold Coast,Newcastle. WOmen’s rugby is booming to have to work out ways to tap into that too, and drop the elitist private chool image of rugby in OZ, unlike say in NZ, or Wales,.
Jamie Mckinstosh saying sorry for Southland dismal effort, .
http://www.allblacks.com/news/20722/An-open-letter-from-Jamie-MacKintosh
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October 6th 2012 @ 7:03am
Minz said | October 6th 2012 @ 7:03am | Report comment
Women’s rugby is booming?!? Most competitions I know of are struggling to stay afloat and we don’t even have a women’s national side because the ARU is concentrating on the damned sevens. So unless your definition of “booming” includes having the national program dropped after coming third at the World Cup… at least if the ARU had done that to the men’s program we would have been spared all this angst about why the Wallabies aren’t playing well
October 6th 2012 @ 10:19am
Gravity Basher said | October 6th 2012 @ 10:19am | Report comment
loved that open letter.
mckintosh is a legend.
October 6th 2012 @ 3:29am
Brendon said | October 6th 2012 @ 3:29am | Report comment
Interesting read though you could have condensed the colts story a bit and still keep it pertinent.
Youth development has been a major problem for Australian rugby for decades and the ARU should have at least done a better job in trying to deal with it but its not a simple problem to solve.
Australia is rapidly becoming a two sport country – Aussie Rules and Rugby League. With the new TV deals both sports will be able to attract more younger players and pay for better youth infrastructure. This is just not an issue for rugby but all team sports in Australia. Even cricket, where the top players in the national team earn vastly more money than the top AFL and NRL players, but that is only limited to the top players like Clarke, Hussey, Ponting and Watson. Same with rugby. The top players earn a good income but the average Super Rugby player isn’t going to be on more money than an average NRL player – especially once the higher salary cap takes full effect.
As for free to air … People bang on about this but the simple fact is that Foxtel pay a lot more for Super Rugby than a FTA station would and if any games are shown live free-to-air that will lower its price tag from Foxtel.
The problem with most critics who think their “ideas” will solve rugby’s problems usually formulate their ideas in their perfect, bubble world where their ideas don’t have unintended consequences. You want Super Rugby on free-to-air but also want the ARU to drastically increase youth funding?
October 6th 2012 @ 12:18pm
David said | October 6th 2012 @ 12:18pm | Report comment
You are right Brendon.I would say Australia is already a two sport country with Aussie Rules and RL. With their new tv deals worth over a 1b dollars this will ensure they will always remain the major sports.
Personally I think rugby should take a leaf out of soccers book and rather than compete with the NRL and AFL try and carve out their own niche. Soccer has switched their Aleague comp to the summer to avoid clashing with the NRL and AFL. Union could try the same and set up a summer comp.
October 11th 2012 @ 8:52am
Leo said | October 11th 2012 @ 8:52am | Report comment
So league is major sport in Australia with only two states but leaguies don’t recognize rugby as a major sport in England, France, Ireland and Scotland.
October 11th 2012 @ 10:16am
Mike said | October 11th 2012 @ 10:16am | Report comment
Leo, the problem is more that League dominates in two States as you point out, and AFL dominates in three or four others. So Rugby comes 2nd (or worse) in each State. The support for League and AFL in their home states is deeply tribal and ‘rusted on’. Just part of the problem that we have to overcome.
And you are right, League has a tiny following in UK and France compared to Union.
October 6th 2012 @ 5:30am
Hoy said | October 6th 2012 @ 5:30am | Report comment
Started going in the right direction, then tried to correct a few people from an article a year ago, then I got lost.
But the start was bang on. I would call myself a late bloomer. School fifths, a college year, into club rugby a year later to colts 2, playing with a lot of school firsts players, then through 4th grade into reserve grade in Brisbane after a few years. That was as high as I got, but you get the point. I was obviously and rightly overlooked at school level, but physically, and game wise, I matured a lot after I left school.
Tis is my opinion, and I am not arguing that I should have been signed up by a long shot, but in Rugby in Australia, it seems that if you aren’t selected to development squads out of schoool, you had better be signed up before 24, or you are too old here. Not always the case, but more often than not. Oddly Super clubs are happy to sign older players from overseas, just not those with form on the board at home in club rugby. The reason could be that the gap between club rugby in Australia and Super rugby is so large? Something else that needs addressing.
October 6th 2012 @ 9:16am
sheek said | October 6th 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Actually, the other article referred to was from last month…..
October 6th 2012 @ 6:43am
BloodRed said | October 6th 2012 @ 6:43am | Report comment
Maybe the NSWRU and the ARU need to look at what is happening in QLD. The following is lifted from an email sent from Ewen MacKenzie to Reds members.
“Away from the Reds, Rugby participation numbers in Queensland also continue to grow. In 2012, we are heading towards a record 180,000 participants, which is a significant rise from the 137,000 in 2011 and 103,000 from 2010.
These figures haven’t occurred by accident. They have risen on the back of the introduction of new programs like Rookies2Reds, the inaugural Queensland Schoolgirl Sevens Championships and Try Sevens. ”
As a further example of how things are going in QLD, the junior rugby scene is thriving. My 6 year olds team is one of 6 under 7 teams at his club. Some of the other clubs have more than 10 teams in his age group. It’s chip as chips to run with parents providing the coaching and reffing. The Smart Rugby program provides a steady progression with a graduated introduction of skills and the various aspects of rugby. The kids love it, the Dads get to pretend they were world beaters and the Mums are just as enthusiastic. Training night is a great social outting and gets the whole family engaged.
Once you’ve got the little kids and the Mums on board you’ve got the whole family for life.
October 8th 2012 @ 4:19pm
matthewthorpe said | October 8th 2012 @ 4:19pm | Report comment
im not having a go at all, but im interested in the retention rates of those 6 teams when the players enter high school. from my experiences junior club rugby is great, but once high school comes around the club comp seems to miss out
October 8th 2012 @ 5:09pm
amband said | October 8th 2012 @ 5:09pm | Report comment
when I was at high school we played for school on Tuesdays, and for our local club Saturday. Nothing new in that. Just do it
October 6th 2012 @ 8:14am
hog said | October 6th 2012 @ 8:14am | Report comment
Great article Galgano, long read but you obviously have a lot of knowledge on rugby, and i hope people in power are listening to these articles in the roar lately. Rugby in this country cannot be sustained on the current model.
I have written two posts in the last week and although different than yours they highlight the same problem. Rugby is top heavy we are competing in arguably the highest level rugby comp in the world without a proper development structure, and rugby is starting to collapse under its own weight.
I am a passionate supporter of the melb rebels, but how is this franchise suppose to survive when the gap between local rugby and super level is so far that they will never be able produce their own players, all they can do to survive is pillage NSW and BRIS club comps which simply cannot be sustained.
October 6th 2012 @ 8:15am
nickoldschool said | October 6th 2012 @ 8:15am | Report comment
Interesting article for someone like me who isnt that familiar with the system in place at grassroots level.
For me, the problem lies with the franchise system itself: Brumbies, Tahs, rebels etc arent clubs with kids, 12yo, 16yo, etc. these are entities with senior players coming from clubs all around the country or at best the area where they are based. No continuity in the development of the youngsters, no early spotting in their more junior ranks etc.
Look at clubs like Toulouse, Toulon, Biarritz etc. these are clubs. Some kids start at the age of 6-7 straight into the rugby school, then move on as they get older. By the age of 14-15 when they are ‘cadets’, the best are already identified and will develop within the club. I think here in Oz we are paying the price of your franchise system which has by essence no foundations. This is why also imo there is no real feeling and pride in the jersey. You have been a randwick boy or a sydney uni boy till you were 21 then move to the tahs. Not the ame than if you had grown up within this club. Its a lost battle imo. Not saying oz rugby cant be successful, it has been and is successful, but you will always have issues and tough transition between amateur and professional level as it measn leaving your club for a franchise system.
October 6th 2012 @ 8:39am
hog said | October 6th 2012 @ 8:39am | Report comment
Right, these are franchises whose job is to win super rugby not develop grassroots rugby.
October 6th 2012 @ 8:59am
nickoldschool said | October 6th 2012 @ 8:59am | Report comment
“Right, these are franchises whose job is to win super rugby not develop grassroots rugby.”. thats exactly the issue. Maybe to win SR you also need to develop grassroots rugby no?? why should it be either this or that. Toulouse, Bath and other euro clubs have been successful and developped kids rugby.
there is a void and no bridge between SR and club rugby in oz. thats the problem to me. maybe oz should look at what is being done elsewehre like in good old europe. you/they might even learn a few things.
October 6th 2012 @ 12:16pm
Jutsie said | October 6th 2012 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
Great point NOS, professional rugby adminstrators and directors in aus are infected with narrow-mindedness and short term thinking.
You will only achieve sustained success at the top if its built on strong foundations, as the author points out.
October 6th 2012 @ 8:39am
Hagen said | October 6th 2012 @ 8:39am | Report comment
Good article Galgano- reading from previous posts there’s consensus that a major problem with the state of oz rugby is the disconnection between grassroots and professional levels; your summation makes that clear. In my experience there isn’t enough support of junior rugby and integration with higher levels- an example: one sydney junior club in my son’s comp. this year didn’t even have a connection with a senior club side as a feeder club because of lack of interest. This is so short-sighted it’s astounding. The junior clubs are based on community enthusiasm and activity by players, suporters and admin.- that spirit must continue into the senior levels for rugby to thrive.
October 6th 2012 @ 9:15am
sheek said | October 6th 2012 @ 9:15am | Report comment
Galgano,
Moral to the story is that SU should not be penalised for the faults of others. Fair enough call. And your banner line is apt: “A professional code built on an amateur foundation”.
The first part of your article was excellent. Although the defence of SU drifted off from centre base. But I guess you feel the need to defend SU. I accept that.
Randwick, the club of my area, is technically insolvent. As is the club we both played for at different times, Sydney Easts. The situation is apparently so dire, both clubs are even flirting with the dreaded ‘M’ word – merger. Insane!
Randwick had a premises redevelopment more than 10 years ago that was supposed to deliver perpetual wealth. There is talk that a sizable amount of money is unaccounted for. Easts live in one of the ritziest parts of Sydney, yet they have their backs to the wall.
Most Sydney premier rugby clubs apparently are kept afloat only by the generosity of sponsors & other benefactors.
Right now, there are no winners in Australian rugby, least of all in our administration of the game……….
October 6th 2012 @ 10:27am
Gravity Basher said | October 6th 2012 @ 10:27am | Report comment
A mate of mine was licensee of Eastwood Rugby club, and I can advise the sponsors don’t put a dent in their funding – there’s only one source of income, and it makes a lot of wonderful ringing noises…..
you’d be amazed what pokies put in the coffers. with 30 pokies you can get about $80k a week in net revenue.
ps for $80k to go into the coffers about $800k has to go through the machines.
good times.
October 6th 2012 @ 1:44pm
MAJB said | October 6th 2012 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
Sheek,
Apart from the questionable finances of Randwick and possibly Easts, the problem for Rugby in the Eastern and Southern Suburbs has much to do with the resurgence of both the Easts (Rooster) and South Sydney. Although the resurgence of League has affected Rugby in this area the real culprit is the ever growing success of the Sydney Swans and the development of AFL in the Eastern Suburbs. Although as an old Woodie, Randwick was the enemy I would hate to see this club disappear, considering that Randwick once had the greatest backline in Australian Rugby. This means that the tenure of this article is true; the lack of profession management of juniors in some Sydney Clubs has seen the loss of potential juniors to other codes.
October 6th 2012 @ 10:40am
Crazy Horse said | October 6th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
Please don’t mix up “NSW” and “Australia”. There are big problems in NSW, but in other parts of the country the game is growing. Can someone please explain what the ARU is doing running development in NSW? Everywhere else that is the responsibilities of the state unions.
In WA, whilst League is not a significant presence, all rugby clubs work in the very big shadow of AFL and the massive presence of soccer at grassroots level. Despite this the major problem facing most clubs is finding enough grounds to play on rather than recruiting players. Grassroots Rugby (or real rugby as I prefer to call it) is run directly by Rugby WA. One difference is that in WA at junior level is that club rugby is the main competition at junior levels, with school rugby a sideshow.
All WA Premier Grade Clubs have junior teams with the “Champion Club” being determined by performance across both Senior and Junior levels. Interestingly given the comments about Sydney Uni, the 2012 “Champion Club” is the University of Western Australia Rugby Club. UWA field teams in all age groups from under 6 up, and all senior grades. UWA is also won the “Club Championship” which is decided on just the Senior Grades. Yes just like all other universities right across the world there is an influx at colts level when students start their tertiary studies, but most of the players come up through the club’s junior ranks.
The other issue that has not been addressed is the demise at elite level of the star amateur player. In years gone by players had real jobs and were able to at least keep their professions ticking over. Not everyone wants to play rugby full time and these talented individuals are now completely lost to the elite level.
October 6th 2012 @ 10:40am
Crazy Horse said | October 6th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
Please don’t mix up “NSW” and “Australia”. There are big problems in NSW, but in other parts of the country the game is growing. Can someone please explain what the ARU is doing running development in NSW? Everywhere else that is the responsibilities of the state unions.
In WA, whilst League is not a significant presence, all rugby clubs work in the very big shadow of AFL and the massive presence of soccer at grassroots level. Despite this the major problem facing most clubs is finding enough grounds to play on rather than recruiting players. Grassroots Rugby (or real rugby as I prefer to call it) is run directly by Rugby WA. One difference is that in WA at junior level is that club rugby is the main competition at junior levels, with school rugby a sideshow.
All WA Premier Grade Clubs have junior teams with the “Champion Club” being determined by performance across both Senior and Junior levels. Interestingly given the comments about Sydney Uni, the 2012 “Champion Club” is the University of Western Australia Rugby Club. UWA field teams in all age groups from under 6 up, and all senior grades. UWA is also won the “Club Championship” which is decided on just the Senior Grades. Yes just like all other universities right across the world there is an influx at colts level when students start their tertiary studies, but most of the players come up through the club’s junior ranks.
The other issue that has not been addressed is the demise at elite level of the star amateur player. In years gone by players had real jobs and were able to at least keep their professions ticking over. Not everyone wants to play rugby full time and these talented individuals are now completely lost to the elite level.
October 6th 2012 @ 12:12pm
Jutsie said | October 6th 2012 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
Just to digress a little the victorian under 17′s defeated qld 19-7 and ACT 31-13 and only narrowly lost to NSW 26-19 at the AJRU nationals in caloundra.
Hopefully the rebels can keep a few of these home grown juniors in the victorian system, in the past they have generally ended up going to QLD where they get scholarships to one of the GPS schools (digby ioane, ben and rex tapuai and ole aveii are a few examples).
October 6th 2012 @ 5:57pm
Crazy Horse said | October 6th 2012 @ 5:57pm | Report comment
Well done Victoria.
BTW if anyone want’s to give my kids a scholarship let me know
I’ve got an up and coming scrum half here who is determined to make it.