Robbie Deans at the crossroads
By David Lord, 7 Oct 2012 David Lord is a Roar Expert
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Wallabies coach Robbie Deans is at the crossroads. (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)
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Robbie Deans’ 65th international as Wallaby coach could well be the most telling of his career.
Later this morning the injury-decimated men-in-gold will be the underdogs when they take on the respected Pumas in Rosario.
So far Deans has won 38 of his 65 internationals for a 58.5% success-rate, well behind Rod Macqueen’s 79%, Alan Jones 76%, John Connolly’s 64%, Greg Smith’s 63% and just ahead of Eddie Jones’ 57%.
But today’s game has deeper meaning than usual. A loss to the eighth-ranked Pumas would drop the Wallabies to number four in the world rankings, just ahead of England, France, and Wales.
During the end of the year tour the Wallabies will face all three. If they are beaten by any one of them, the Wallabies will drop out of the top four and lose automatic qualification for the 2015 Rugby World Cup.
It would be devastating and dangerous having to go through qualifying.
So today’s game is vital to the future of Wallaby rugby.
Deans has made the right selections up front with tall timbers who pack some hefty firepower.
* Skipper-lock Nathan Sharpe – 200cms and 115kgs.
* His partner Kane Douglas – 202 and 122.
* Blindside flanker Sitaleki Timani – 203 and 120.
* And no 8 Radike Samo – 197 and 117.
Off the bench Scott Higginbotham 195 and 110, with David Dennis 192 and 109.
But having so much firepower, the biggest in my memory, won’t be worth a stamp unless they use it to advantage.
Time for a bit of mongrel from number 1 jersey eight through to number 8. Take no prisoners, the Pumas won’t.
It would be grossly unfair to Deans not to recognise the injury toll that has made life so difficult for him.
Up to 30 players have been injured during the season and the current list stands at 16. No team in the world, including the All Blacks with much greater depth, could afford so many key injuries.
The Wallaby caps later this morning tell the story.
The starting lineup boasts 345, Sharpe has 110 of them.
The other seven forwards have 147 between them, the seven backs just 88.
That’s decimation.
Cometh the hour, cometh the men?
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October 7th 2012 @ 4:29am
Rugby Tragic said | October 7th 2012 @ 4:29am | Report comment
After watching the All Blacks dismantle the Springboks this morning 32-16 with 20 unanswered points in the 2nd half, one cannot help to compare the fortunes of the Wallabies and All Blacks.
The game this morning was brutal, the ferocity and contest at the breakdown compelling. Yet other than blood bins there were no injuries.
It is perplexing as to why so many if the Wallabies have fallen, is it technique? is it over training?
I hope the Wallabies can pick themselves up later this morning, they need a break. I think the game is winnable but it will be very tough.
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October 7th 2012 @ 4:31am
Johnno said | October 7th 2012 @ 4:31am | Report comment
Deans will be sacked hopefully by the en of this match today. I think 1 down to go, that’s my only memory of Deans.
Now for the other 2 to catch, and take down. JON then Nufiora. then OZ rugby can be free and have a peaceful and productive rugby reveloution it deserves to stay not only globally competitive, but also for wallabies stay competiive in the footy code war for market share in it’s own country.
October 7th 2012 @ 8:22am
Rabbitz said | October 7th 2012 @ 8:22am | Report comment
Yawn
October 7th 2012 @ 12:19pm
Chivas said | October 7th 2012 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
Why do so many people death ride their team because if their prejudices about the coach beats me. I guess they are roarers fans, just fans of their own opinions.
Good luck on losing, oh sorry the wallabies won. What a miserable bunch of fans.
October 7th 2012 @ 4:43am
Kane said | October 7th 2012 @ 4:43am | Report comment
As it sits the Wallabies are ranked third with 85.21 points and the Pumas eighth on 79.34.
Worst case scenario for the Wallabies is a loss by 16 points as this will have them lose the most points.
“But today’s game has deeper meaning than usual. A loss to the eighth-ranked Pumas would drop the Wallabies to number four in the world rankings, just ahead of England, France, and Wales.”
A loss by 16 will cause a transfer of 1.287 points, meaning they will drop to 83.92 still 0.83 ahead of England who in fourth place have 83.09 points.
A gain of 1.287 points for the Pumas would have them move up ahead of Ireland, who are currently seventh on 79.85, with their new total of 80.63.
Australia can not finish this game below third place however a draw is all they need to take back second place after the All Blacks won convincingly in Soweto.
October 7th 2012 @ 6:30am
Who Needs Melon said | October 7th 2012 @ 6:30am | Report comment
Super comment. Thank you for the research Kane!
October 7th 2012 @ 6:42am
David Lord said | October 7th 2012 @ 6:42am | Report comment
Second that salute Melon. But it doesn’t take away from the fact if the injury-decimated Wallabies lose to the Pumas, England, France, and Wales before Christmas they will be either fifth or sixth ranked and drop out of automatic RWC qualifying. That’s how precarious a situation the Wallabies find themselves. A win against all odds today would be priceless.
October 7th 2012 @ 8:49am
nickoldschool said | October 7th 2012 @ 8:49am | Report comment
David, what do you mean by “drop out of automatic RWC qualifying”. ?
The wallabies are already qualified. What’s at stake is their IRB seeding prior to the 3rd December, hence the importance of staying in the top 4.
October 7th 2012 @ 11:03pm
Chivas said | October 7th 2012 @ 11:03pm | Report comment
Always looking for a silver lining. This article is about as important as an Alan Jones rant, and sets out with a similar goal.
October 7th 2012 @ 9:55am
Kane said | October 7th 2012 @ 9:55am | Report comment
Thanks,
Even with back to back losses of 16+ against Argentina and New Zealand they will still head north with a ranking of third. However their lead on England will be chopped to just 0.3.
If this scenario plays out then a loss of any kind to France in their opening End of Year Tour will see them drop to fifth place on either 82.65 or 82.29 points depending on their margin of loss.
A drop to sixth place will occur if Wales beat Argentina that same weekend.
This is some scary stuff.
October 7th 2012 @ 1:50pm
gekko said | October 7th 2012 @ 1:50pm | Report comment
What if beating the ABs at Lang Park in a couple of weeks and then winning all our games on the spring tour?
October 7th 2012 @ 2:07pm
Kane said | October 7th 2012 @ 2:07pm | Report comment
If they win by 16 they stay in second place and reduce NZ lead from 7.44 to 5.274.
Winning all your games on EOYT won’t help much as you are ranked higher than who you play.
The All Blacks as it stands can only really gain points off playing Australia or South Africa at their home, any other teams or anyone at home and they’re not going to yield many points.
The All Blacks are on 93.36 after todays game and are likely to increase that in Brisbane but unless they drop a game on the EOYT they won’t change the the total points they have.
For the Wallabies to overtake NZ you need to beat them in Brisbane by 16 and win all your EOYT test by 16 and hope that NZ lose twice, once by at least 16.
October 7th 2012 @ 8:57am
Shungmao said | October 7th 2012 @ 8:57am | Report comment
Go you wallabies! My bling faith has again won over….
-Tamani needs to go nuts for 40 mins, destroy everything in his path and run like a enraged bull, then bring Higgers on.
-Backs be patient, play the options smartly and the opportunities will rear there heads.
-Front 3 just win our ball and lock off on theirs , save your juice for defence.
-Sharpie call yourself more in the line outs, I pray with a pack close to a ton we do plenty of catch and drive to give our backs front foot ball.
- if they slow the ball at the breakdown, take the penalties and the points on offer, don’t be to proud to only will by 3 points, a win is a win.
Go you good things !
October 7th 2012 @ 9:06am
Craig said | October 7th 2012 @ 9:06am | Report comment
What he is trying to say is that the top four teams all get a pool each so if aussie lose and all that other stuff happens the next world cup they could be in the same pool as the abs or sa, which is bad because every cup winning team have won their pool.
October 7th 2012 @ 9:22am
Adsa said | October 7th 2012 @ 9:22am | Report comment
Nothing would be more pleasing to see than 4-5 gold tight forwards hitting each ruck or maul after hooper arrives and give the backs some clean ball and options.
October 7th 2012 @ 9:22am
Adsa said | October 7th 2012 @ 9:22am | Report comment
Nothing would be more pleasing to see than 4-5 gold tight forwards hitting each ruck or maul after hooper arrives and give the backs some clean ball and options.
October 7th 2012 @ 10:00am
Red Block said | October 7th 2012 @ 10:00am | Report comment
It’s not the losses or the injury toll, it’s the style of play that concerns me. The lack of creativity and innovation in the Wallabies structure. Lets hope the Wallabies turn up and the coaching staff are willing to try something new.
October 7th 2012 @ 12:11pm
Frank O'Keeffe said | October 7th 2012 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
Deans may have just saved his job.
Will the ARU keep him for the Lions?
October 7th 2012 @ 12:19pm
Johnno said | October 7th 2012 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
Deans is one reliveved man right now if ever there one, that win in Rosario I think has saved his wallaby head coach job
October 7th 2012 @ 2:04pm
Holly Farr-Carnelle from Mosman said | October 7th 2012 @ 2:04pm | Report comment
Johnno, perhaps you meant to say:
Deans is one relieved man right now, if ever there was one. That win in Rosario, I think, has saved his Wallaby head coach job.
Don’t worry, Johnno, by the time you finish High School, your communications skills should have improved.
October 7th 2012 @ 4:48pm
Christo the Daddyo said | October 7th 2012 @ 4:48pm | Report comment
Yes, what a shocking job he’s done, coaching the Wallabies to second place in the Rugby Championship and regained the number two ranking in the world.
Just terrible.
October 7th 2012 @ 7:25pm
doug said | October 7th 2012 @ 7:25pm | Report comment
I like deans, I think he is a great coach. With the injuries he has had, he has done a great job.