Caulfield Guineas Day: Tips and Preview
By Cameron Rose, 12 Oct 2012 Cameron Rose is a Roar Expert
Jockey Nash Rawiller rides More Joyous AAP Image/John Donegan
Caulfield Guineas day is upon us, one of the most celebrated days on the racing calendar, bringing with it a feast of black type events.
This day has provided some special moments over the years, as colleague Justin Cinque highlighted yesterday.
All eyes will turn toward Pierro as he looks to extend his record to nine wins from nine starts, and claim his fourth group one in the process.
With the Gai Waterhouse colt firming by the hour for the Cox Plate, the Guineas tomorrow looks a formality, and I’m not sure that even $1.20 isn’t ‘overs’.
While the majesty of the turf is foremost in our minds and we love to see an unbeaten superstar, from a punting perspective the Guineas has effectively been ruined as a betting proposition.
Having had some personal success in the race through In Top Swing, God’s Own and Starspangledbanner, this makes me a little sad.
The same could be said for the Caulfield Stakes, formerly known as the Yalumba.
Manighar’s scratching from this event, and subsequent withdrawal from the Spring, has left a hole in the weight-for-age ranks when it comes to the older horses. This 2000m race should now be a doddle for the Underwood Stakes winner Ocean Park, and his odds of $1.60 certainly reflect it.
Small fields have a long history of providing an upset so I won’t be leaping into the ‘shorts’, even though I can’t really the entertain the possibility of the New Zealand four year old being beaten.
More Joyous is rated a $2 chance in the time honoured Toorak Handicap, but will have to heft 60kgs to victory if she’s to attain it.
It’s not the actual burden she’ll have to defy so much as the weight of history, as only five horses, all male, have carried as much to win this race in over 130 years.
Although she’s entitled to respect, you won’t see me going anywhere near her price. I don’t think she’ll be winning, and the field does open up a bit beyond her. King Mufhasa at $7.50 seems value, and Yosei is due to put it all together as she usually does once a campaign.
You’ll see plenty worse $13 shots running around tomorrow than her.
EACH WAY ALL DAY
I’m not sure how Miss Marx has escaped favouritism in the last at Caulfield tomorrow, but I’ll certainly be thanking the bookies for their generosity when she finishes in the top three at around $7 the win and $2.50 the place.
This mare has come into her five year old year as a superior animal, and seems to be growing an extra leg whenever she steps onto the track.
First up this campaign she was just overrun, finishing second behind subsequent group two WFA placegetter, Emotional Circus. Next start she was second again, this time beaten 1.5 lengths behind More Joyous (!), before coming to Caulfield for the first time a couple of weeks ago and winning with authority over a smart lot of boys.
Back to mares grade tomorrow, again at her pet distance, she’s drawn a nice gate to get back and run on, which should be suited late in the day.
If she doesn’t win, only one or two will beat her, and she makes incredible each-way appeal.
ROSE’S ROUGHIE
While $15 is not as rough as I like them, it’s not an easy card to identify a genuine winning hope at a nice price. There’s a game and honest mare running at this price in the 2400m Herbert Power (race 8) that I can’t overlook.
So far this campaign she’s run a great fifth in the WFA Makybe Diva Stakes, and followed it up with a second in the JRA Cup, often a key (and surprising) form reference throughout each spring.
When it comes to her four tries in the distance range, her resume sees a second to Tanby, a second in an Ansett Classic, a win in the Warrnambool Cup (carrying 57.5kg’s if you don’t mind), and a second to Lights of Heaven in the Brisbane Cup.
Dance With Her is the horse in question, and to add further weight to her credentials on Saturday, she loves the sting out of the track which she’ll get, has a win at Caulfield to her name, and is drawn to get the run of the race.
In an even race of considerable depth, I’ll always advise backing something at a price, especially a horse that will be camped up on or near the speed. Dance With Her fits the bill nicely.
Enjoy the day tomorrow, there’s no doubt history will be made one way or the other. When it comes to lovers of horse racing in this country, it’s all about the next 30 days. This is it, I’m telling you.
Cameron Rose is a born and bred Melbournian, raised on a regime of AFL, cricket and horse racing. He likes people who agree with him but loves those that don't, for in his mind there is nothing better than a roaring debate. He tweets from @camtherose.
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October 12th 2012 @ 7:26am
Bondy. said | October 12th 2012 @ 7:26am | Report comment
If they dont open those favourites out they’ll get no money I can see a legitimate reason to not back both MJ and Pierro ‘i’ve been punting for 20 years no skin off my nose if I let something run around at a $1.20 and not back it and it wins, for the punter MJ has history and the price to overcome if theres $2.20 or 2.30 there then ok if she’s evens then no action.
I also believe the european horses are a serious lay at Caufield for the Cup next week the circumference and turns of the track should put pay to most of them, although Tauphans Melody did win for the poms one year,although I wont be laying them at Flemington.
Thanks for Miss Marx Cam nice preview.
October 12th 2012 @ 8:10am
Will Sinclair said | October 12th 2012 @ 8:10am | Report comment
Bondy,
All The Good also won a Caulfield Cup back in 2008 for the Internationals. I was down there for my bucks weekend, and the winner of the big race is one of the few things I can remember!
Taufan’s Meldoy’s win should never have been allowed to stand. He absolutely pole-axed Jezabeel (who I was on) and Champagne, who went on to quinella the Melbourne Cup. It was a farce.
October 12th 2012 @ 1:03pm
The Grafter said | October 12th 2012 @ 1:03pm | Report comment
I remember it well to Will. An absolute travisty which robbed Jezabeel of the unique Cups double.
From memory Taufans Melody was trained by a female UK trainer?
October 12th 2012 @ 1:34pm
Scuba said | October 12th 2012 @ 1:34pm | Report comment
Lady Herries trained Taufan’s Melody.
Ray Cochrane was trying to adapt to the Australian style of riding and get some of his own back for being given a shorten up in the previous year’s Melbourne Cup on Harbour Dues (but went way too far). People always forget that Taufan’s Melody ran a close 4th in the Melbourne Cup – if Taufan’s Melody had lost the Caulfield Cup on protest and not carried a weight penalty in the Melbourne Cup, maybe he would have gone home as a Cup winner anyway.
October 12th 2012 @ 3:33pm
Will Sinclair said | October 12th 2012 @ 3:33pm | Report comment
I’ll never forget Lady Harries, all dolled up in the Melbourne heat, sweating like an absolute… well, you can use your imagination.
The phrase “a fish out of water” has never been more apt.
October 12th 2012 @ 10:53am
Cameron Rose said | October 12th 2012 @ 10:53am | Report comment
Good point Bondy, MJ opened up extremely short, and has eased from $1.60 to $2 in some markets. Still not a price I want.
It feels like there are many more short price horses than there used to be, but I could be wrong. The competition is lacking the depth of a decade ago, and more horses seem to shy away from taking on the big guns. MJ is a quality mare, but there reason there are so many doubters is because most of her wins have been track gallops against inferior opposition.
Gatewood and Shahwardi will give us another indication in the Herbert Power tomorrow. Gatewood looks a special….if he gets around Caulfield. If not, then it’s as open a race as we’ll see all day.
October 12th 2012 @ 8:57am
Rob said | October 12th 2012 @ 8:57am | Report comment
Good article, agree with KM, group one champion to the tune of 10 G1′s, leads, will win if he can hold off the lightweights. Look for a roughie in the Yalumba, if one of the shorts is to be rolled that’s it.
It’ll be a great day of racing tomorrow, although I can’t help but feel there’s a piece of the puzzle missing.
October 12th 2012 @ 10:00am
theDuth said | October 12th 2012 @ 10:00am | Report comment
Love the wrap Cam, as someone who only seasonally (spring carnival) follows racing it great to have the upcoming races broken down and to know what to look for in the way of race milestones. It makes watching the races more enjoyable when you know more about the history and who to look out for on the day.
Keep the reports coming, especially Roses Roughies which already have me on top in the betting stakes!!
October 12th 2012 @ 10:54am
Cameron Rose said | October 12th 2012 @ 10:54am | Report comment
Thanks Duth, nice to have some support. We’re hoping to attract seasoned and seasonal racing fans alike to this site, and we have some extremely educated contributors. Justin Cinque does the best Monday wrap in the business if you ask me.
October 12th 2012 @ 9:01pm
Muelboy said | October 12th 2012 @ 9:01pm | Report comment
I can’t believe Veewap is a $7.00 chance people keep overlooking him, his three runs this time in have been outstanding. Barrier five is important as from the 1400m chute at Caulfield the field goes uphill quite severely (hard to see on TV) and starts turning sharply. He is a bet each way to nothing.
Later in the day RW Smerdon has Lone Rock in the Group Two Schillaci Stakes over 1000m. She doesn’t have much first up form but Smerdon has trialled the mare twice leading into this something he hasn’t done in the past. Buffering will have company up front with Didntcostalot & Snitzem likely to roll forward, will set the race up for the back makers like her. Although you can’t eat odds $9.00 about a group one winning mare is great value.
October 13th 2012 @ 4:58am
Andrew C (waikato) said | October 13th 2012 @ 4:58am | Report comment
Muelboy, I’d have a look @ Stirling Grove in the Schillaci Stakes – very fast horse with a touch of class (a mate of mine used to race his mother and she was quite classy too)