Who will be in the starting XI for the Gabba Test?
By smithha, 13 Oct 2012 smithha is a Roar Rookie
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The Gabba Test match cannot come soon enough. The sporting ‘black hole’ between the football and cricket seasons is enough to send any true Aussie sports fan around the bend.
Sorry, but the A-League and a Bledisloe Cup dead rubber simply do not suffice.
To pass the time, I’m sure that many of you kept an interest in the T20 World Cup, and the opening rounds of the Sheffield Shield and domestic one day season.
Perhaps you made mental notes of the eleven cricketers who you think should don the Baggy Green for the opening Test on November 9? Well I did, and here is my Australian XI:
1. David Warner
It will be fascinating to see how Warner fares when he meets Steyn, Morkel and Philander for the first time in the Test arena. Had success against the Indians last summer, but their bowlers were flat and lacked heart. The Proteas’ pace trio will be a massive test of character for the nuggetty New South Welshman.
2. Ed Cowan
Foot to the ball, elbow up, full face – Ed Cowan’s controlled demeanour at the crease provides a perfect balance to the audacious stroke play of companion David Warner. But with Phil Hughes and Usman Khawaja nipping at his heels, a few low scores could see his days numbered.
3. Shane Watson
His class is unquestionable. However, his 35 Test matches have only produced two centuries. This home series Watson will undoubtedly be out to convert starts into big scores. While it should be used sparingly, his wicket-to-wicket bowling will also be a huge asset for the Aussies.
4. Michael Clarke
A wow of a summer in 11/12 saw Pup take home the Allan Border Medal. At four, he is the heartbeat of the Australian line-up. The captain may also be needed for some left-arm offies, but the Gabba deck is hardly a spinner’s paradise.
5. Ricky Ponting
Ahh Rick Ponting. Who can forget his defying, gritty, ungraceful (more adjectives please) century in the Sydney Test last summer? If he can score big runs early against the Proteas, then who knows, perhaps England 2013 isn’t too much to ask. If not, the knives will be out yet again.
6. Michael Hussey
Hussey is best suited to the number six position. He is an excellent player of spin, and seems to bring the best out of Australia’s tail order. Like Ponting, he will need to get among the runs at the Gabba and in Adelaide to keep the pressure off.
7. Matthew Wade
Wade or Haddin? Tough question, but I think Wade’s form and youth will see him named for the first Test.
8. Peter Siddle
Siddle’s ability to make the batsman play has been a key element of his game. I watched him play the Bulls at the Gabba earlier in the week, and a line-up that included Khawaja and Forrest could barely get him away. While he has given up meat, that hopefully won’t curb his hunger for South African scalps.
9. James Patterson
If he can stay fit, Patterson could be the Aussies’ most deadly weapon for the Test series. The confident Victorian will not be afraid to dig in the short stuff to Kallis, Smith and Amla alike. The Indian series also showed he does not mind a bit of verbal banter as well.
10. Ben Hilfenhaus
Hilfy and the young Patterson will take the new ball for the Aussies at the Gabba. The Tasmanian was a stand-out last summer. What he lacks in pace, he redeems with uncanny accuracy and movement in the air. He is the backbone of the Australian attack.
11. Mitch Starc
Starc pips Pat Cummins and Nathan Lyon for the final spot. He is in good form, and his left-arm option adds some variety to the pace attack. However, he cannot afford a bad showing, as Aussie quicks are queuing up for miles.
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October 13th 2012 @ 2:57am
Johnno said | October 13th 2012 @ 2:57am | Report comment
i admit I am no Micheal Clarke fan a as captain , he is not my stele give me AB, Boony,Tubby, or Ian Chappell. The old school when the aussy dressing room was a place for real blokes. Not captain who have an interest in clothing, fashion, mostiruising cream, modern sensitive skin shaving cream, there appearance ,trying to be glamourous.
Give me the stubby of beer, and thongs, and footy shorts brigade. And men who out there mates first not the almighty dollar and there bank blacnes, played for each ther not the money. I found David Lord’s article this week on grade cricket very inspiring , and hope grade cricket returns to it’s strength and brings back the big crowds and big stars over big money cricket.
I am critical of shane watson like that too, and warney as well, warney especially has let the side down, as he could mix with the old brigade but has evolved with the annoying new young brigade in the aussy dressing room.
I miss the Symonds, the katich’s, the haydens, the langer’s, the slats, the boonies, and lilies, and thommos, and greg matthews of this world. The larrikans and yobbos. Men who drank fully strength beer, not the chardonnay set like today’s cricketers seem to be.
But pup is a good batsman still i will not say he is a greta batsmen until he makes big Ashes runs when they truly count, or a big world cue ODI score when the pressure is on like Punter’s hundred vs India last year.
A good team if the pace bowlers can all stay fit, we will really give england a shake in ASHES 2013 if all our pace bowlers can stay fit, and Dave Warner has a break out season this year. He will be vital vs England, I hope he doesn’t end up another Phil Hughes, seaming wicket swill really test him. Mind you England 2013 side is looking a bit thinner in the pace attack.
An aging James Anderson who admitted to well hitting Pup with a pad , for being annoying and was egged on by Damien Martyn. Marto wasn’t happy with pup.
Also Chris Tremlett seems to of faded , and Broad has remained the same, and Bressnan is no world beater, and Finn hasn’t advanced either, and Swann will be 34 by next ASHES. Plus Strauss retired , an ageing Matt Prior, Peterson will be almost 33 , Cook is cook he will be solid but will have burden of captaincy now in his shoulders. Going ot be tough series Trott needs to have a big series as does Bell. Pat Cummin is set for a big year too. He is getting older Pat Cummins and will want to show he still has it after injuries.
We should beat sri lanka, and will start favourite at home vs South Africa.
October 14th 2012 @ 5:35pm
Disco said | October 14th 2012 @ 5:35pm | Report comment
Finn hasn’t advanced from what? He’s still very young and has made steady improvement.
October 16th 2012 @ 10:07am
Michael said | October 16th 2012 @ 10:07am | Report comment
Clarke’s record against England: 1365 runs at an average of 45.50 with four 100s and six 50s. Furthermore, he averages 48.93 in England. So he’s already scored four centuries in the intensity of Ashes matches. What more does he need to do? Average 150?
Sorry everyone, I couldn’t resist responding to this.
October 16th 2012 @ 4:30pm
Don Corleone said | October 16th 2012 @ 4:30pm | Report comment
Agreed Michael.
Clarke is the captain of the Australian Cricket Team, has a brilliant record as a player and captain, has a test 300, earns $6 million a year, has purchased a sprawling property in the Southern Highland where he’s establishing a cricket academy and is married to a stunningly beautiful woman.
I doubt whether he loses sleep at night that he doesn’t live up to the expectations of a bunch of keyboard warriors.
October 16th 2012 @ 5:06pm
Pope Paul VII said | October 16th 2012 @ 5:06pm | Report comment
I think Michael is actually Michael Clarke.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:10pm
Michael said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:10pm | Report comment
Sorry to disappoint you Your Holiness. I wish I was a highly paid Test cricket champion and captain of a national team. Instead I have to occupy my time bowling modest medium pacers on Saturdays.
That’s not the first time someone has said that though. Common name I guess.
October 16th 2012 @ 6:04pm
MrKistic said | October 16th 2012 @ 6:04pm | Report comment
Clarke is building a what now?? Don’t we already have a number of cricket academies??
October 18th 2012 @ 9:07am
Disco said | October 18th 2012 @ 9:07am | Report comment
What on earth is a “keyboard warrior”?
October 16th 2012 @ 10:30am
MrKistic said | October 16th 2012 @ 10:30am | Report comment
You’re right. Unless you’re prepared to shave the skin off your own face, you’re not fit to be Australian captain!
October 19th 2012 @ 4:53pm
Nick Inatey said | October 19th 2012 @ 4:53pm | Report comment
While I agree with you on most of your assessments on Michael Clarke, saying he is not a ‘great’ batsman simply because he hasn’t scored runs in Ashes games is a slight on the pre-requisites for greatness. Your definition completely rubbishes all the other test nations that play Australia and also shamelessly elevates the status of Ashes games as above regular test matches. Anyhow, Michael Clarke has indeed scored key runs against England when it counted (Adelaide 2006, and held his own fairly well in the 05 series). People who score 700 runs in 4 test series deserve to not have their claim being ‘good’ or ‘great’ defined simply by Ashes performances. Ricky Ponting never scored a hundred (or fifty) at Lords, should he therefore be seen as a player who didn’t stand up when required? Of course not.
People need to stop falling into this jingoistic sphere of Ashes reverence. People seem to blindly follow the marketing and planning strategies of Cricket Australia: that the number one priority is the Ashes and all cricket is in Australia is played to win them back. Utter nonsense. Ashes series are not the be all and end all of cricket. Australian cricket should be planning for the next test, in this case against South Africa, the number one team. If CA treat South Africa and Sri Lanka this summer as a testing bed for the next Ashes series, we will get thumped and the public will feel rightly aggrieved they paid good money to see an experimental side.
Who gives a right thought about who the next English Ashes squad is? You shouldn’t be picking an 11 based on the opposition, you pick an 11 that you believe is the best chance of winning a test match.
No way should Australia be starting as favourites against South Africa. SA have the best bowling attack in the world. Steyn and Philander could still smash people bowling with just one leg. Smith, Amla, Kallis, De Villliers are frightenly good attack weapons in the batting line up. All are good and most importantly, reliable. Australia does not have that. Warner is as reliable as a poorly built f1 car: Fantastic when working, awful when not. Watson is good for 50 before he loses concentration. Ponting is past it, Hussey is past it. The keeper has not been sorted. Cowan still needs to find his groove. The bowling is a real plus for Australia, but still not in the same class as SA…yet. Hopefully CA properly manage the bowlers cause they really are a talented bunch. If they arent in the test team, they need to be plying their trade in Sheffield Shield to get some match fitness in….they cant be ‘rested’ fullstop.
October 13th 2012 @ 7:32am
ADSA said | October 13th 2012 @ 7:32am | Report comment
No spinner at the Gabbba, the days over the next month will be dry and the test pitch will not be as green as the current shield pitch, i think you will need a spinner as spin is not the proteas strong point. I think you will find Clarke will bat at 5 again this year, he gets all his runs at no. 5 and has never really looked comfortable at 4. Hopefully Ponting and Hussey can get some runs early agaianst the good SA attack so we do not have a summer of speculation over their place in the team.
October 13th 2012 @ 8:26am
Chris said | October 13th 2012 @ 8:26am | Report comment
Ed Cowan, Hughes and Khawaja have all been in abysmal Sheild form.
Haddin ahead of Wade. If you want to select on form then Haddin just bludgeoned a Shield century. Wade hasn’t done much with the bat for a long time.
Bring Steve Smith (or Steve O’Keefe) in as an alrounder, shift Hussey up to opener and you get a spinner and a stronger batting lineup (I’m sorry but both Smith and O’Keefe are better players than Cowan based on batting alone).
October 13th 2012 @ 10:55am
smithha said | October 13th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
abysmal is a bit rich. Hughes scored 95 and 80 odd at the gabba, and Khawaja looked impressive in his first knock for the Bulls with 80. Wade also just scored 80 runs on a lively Gabba deck. And sorry- Steve Smith just is not a Test cricketer
October 14th 2012 @ 11:30am
MrKistic said | October 14th 2012 @ 11:30am | Report comment
Yeah, you’re right. Of course he just got a match saving 80 something in the Shield match against Qld and in his last 1st class match he made a century… you might remember that, the 3rd Test in the W.I.? Clearly you don’t but I guess that was, as you say, a long time ago.
Lucky he’s only a ‘keeper I guess.
October 15th 2012 @ 12:05pm
Mantis said | October 15th 2012 @ 12:05pm | Report comment
Steve Smith should not be playing test cricket yet. He doesnt offer enough in bowling or batting to be considered a genuine all rounder. He has the potential to crack into the test side, but there is no way he should have already played test cricket. He’s only in his early 20′s, he has plenty of time ahead of him, but he should only be playing T20′s and maybe one dayers at the moment. Don’t get me wrong, he seems like a guy bloke and a good influence to have around the team (judging by his attitude in the field and what you hear about him), but that alone shouldnt be enough to get him in the side.
He has been in pretty good batting form so far this year, and over in England mid year, but he has not been bowling regularly. He won’t earn his spot in the test side on batting alone.
October 13th 2012 @ 9:56am
Jason Cave said | October 13th 2012 @ 9:56am | Report comment
How many players do you think the Australian selectors will pick for the Ashes tour of England next year?
Will they go with the traditional 16-17 man squad, or in light of the fact we now have T20 as well as the Ashes Tests and ODIs, they pick 20 players to cover all the bases for the three forms of cricket plus the fact they don’t have to call up replacements in case of injuries/or out of form players?
Personally, I think they should go with a 20 man team for England. 16 or 17 players is not enough for a tour of England these days, remembering they don’t play against many county sides like Yorkshire or Middlesex like they used to in previous English tours.
October 13th 2012 @ 10:02am
Swampy said | October 13th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
Chris, not sure how you can rate Hughes and Cowan out of form?
Hughes has scored nearly all of SA’s runs on his own and Cowan has had only one dig and scored 35.
Haddin should not be considered. If wade were to be axed it has to be Paine or Neville to be considered.
Hussey as an opener? Rocks in the head.
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October 13th 2012 @ 10:36am
Jason said | October 13th 2012 @ 10:36am | Report comment
Chris is a pro-NSW troll.
October 13th 2012 @ 10:55am
smithha said | October 13th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
could not agree more
October 13th 2012 @ 10:39am
Jason said | October 13th 2012 @ 10:39am | Report comment
As for the first test team – I think the team above is pretty much it other than Lyon for Starc.
Starc is a terrific talent but has pretty much only played white ball cricket for the last few months. And with Watto in the team you don’t need 5 seamers. Lyon’s form is a bit of a worry but he is the incumbent and frankly there aren’t really any alternatives.
Haddin v Wade isn’t even a question. Wade got a ton in his last test, 89 out of 227 in his last Shield game and has a long term future.
October 13th 2012 @ 10:57am
smithha said | October 13th 2012 @ 10:57am | Report comment
You make a good point- 5 seamers may be a bit much. But I recently saw Ben Cutting take Lyon apart at the Gabba. If a Bulls’ number 8 can do that, I can’t imagine what the Proteas will do….
October 13th 2012 @ 11:28am
Jason said | October 13th 2012 @ 11:28am | Report comment
As I say, there aren’t really any alternatives and Lyon has generally done well at Test level.
October 13th 2012 @ 11:37am
Matt F said | October 13th 2012 @ 11:37am | Report comment
Very true. Any Australian spinner that can average under 30 in test cricket (Lyon’s is 27.83) will be the clear number one spinner in almost all Australian sides, Warne era aside obviously. Unless the pitch is a very green track (a risky strategy given the SA pace attack) we’re going to have to play a spinner and Lyon is significantly better than anybody else at the moment
October 15th 2012 @ 8:24pm
cantab said | October 15th 2012 @ 8:24pm | Report comment
I don’t think you should pick a spinner if you don’t have one to play. Smith would be a better choice to Lyon, just don’t pick both like last year (as in an average full time spinner and smith). The best option in my opinion is to pick 4 quicks as above plus watto and clark/hussey can turn a few over if need be. If you only have 3 quicks watson will bowl lots, especially in the first innings so probably couldn’t bat him at three then.
October 16th 2012 @ 2:45am
lolly said | October 16th 2012 @ 2:45am | Report comment
Why would Smith be a better choice than Lyon?
October 16th 2012 @ 10:01am
MrKistic said | October 16th 2012 @ 10:01am | Report comment
Because he’s great to have in the rooms, has lots of energy, tells a great knock-knock joke… or just because you’re also from NSW.
Otherwise he’s not. As the figures show, as the idea of dropping spinners when they don’t turn out to be S.Warne within 5 tests has shown, as Lyon’s steady improvement has shown, all of the things cantab is clearly ignoring.
Smith’s 1st class bowling average is 54.58. Full stop, the end.
October 16th 2012 @ 6:53pm
cantab said | October 16th 2012 @ 6:53pm | Report comment
because he can bat(almost) and both will be as ineffective as each other with the ball (not that Clark is likely to use either of them). Pick four quick’s IMO is the best option.
October 16th 2012 @ 6:54pm
cantab said | October 16th 2012 @ 6:54pm | Report comment
lol, sorry MrKistic, never been to NSW in my life, but I do support any team playing them.
October 13th 2012 @ 11:43am
Matt F said | October 13th 2012 @ 11:43am | Report comment
I’m not convinced that Starc is ready for test cricket yet. He is a fantastic bowler in the shorter formats different formats require different skill sets. He does bowl some almost unplayable balls at times, which is why he is so sucesful in one-day and T20 cricket, but he still bowls a few too many loose balls to be able to build up any pressure, which is how most wickets are taken at test level. He’ll get there, but probably needs another season or so at Shield level to prove himself. The fact that he will have played nothing but T20 cricket for about 2 or so months before the first test doesn’t help his cause much either.
With Watson giving us that 4th seamer option, I don’t think we should be playing 4 genuine quicks unless the pitch is extremely green. Starc, unfortunately, is behind the other 3 quicks that you named so will be the one to drop out..
October 14th 2012 @ 5:46pm
Disco said | October 14th 2012 @ 5:46pm | Report comment
You’re probably right about Starc. Hugely promising and already better than Johnson, though.
October 15th 2012 @ 12:25pm
Matt F said | October 15th 2012 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
Starc is what Johnson could be if MJ had a technique
October 15th 2012 @ 4:36pm
Disco said | October 15th 2012 @ 4:36pm | Report comment
Shame the selectors haven’t recognised that rather enormous flaw in Johnson since his Lords horror show.
Or, wait, perhaps they’ve subsequently picked him for his mythical allround abillity.
October 15th 2012 @ 12:08pm
Mantis said | October 15th 2012 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
You’re right. Id pick Cummins ahead of Starc as well, but its a great problem for us to have. Good amount of young quicks coming through at the moment. I really like Coulter Nile over in WA as well.
If Watson is going to be the 4th seaming option, he cant be batting at 3. I’d move him down to 5 or so if he’s going to be bowling a number of overs. Otherwise keep him at the 3 and bowl him in quick spells.
October 15th 2012 @ 12:30pm
Matt F said | October 15th 2012 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
I’d be going for Lyon purely for variety, unless the pitch is seriously green, though having a seriously green pitch would be insanity against the likes of Steyn. Neither Cummins or Starc have played any first-class cricket, and I don’t think that they will have a chance before the 1st test a quite a while which is a worry. I’d try and get a shield game or two into them before the WACA test. Based on the last few years that pitch will be heaven for the quicks and we’ll need to pick 4 of them.
October 16th 2012 @ 12:27pm
Jamie said | October 16th 2012 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
I think that the forgotten man in this list is Ryan Harris. He offers a bit of experience to anotherwise young attack (which otherwise would rely on Siddle as the sole steadying head) and hasn’t dnoe anything to disappoint in any of the games he’s played. To fair, there’s at least a 50% chance he’s injured at any given time, so that could also be the reason for his absence!
October 13th 2012 @ 3:49pm
Brian said | October 13th 2012 @ 3:49pm | Report comment
Warner
Cosgrove
Marsh
Clarke
Hussey
Watson
Wade
Cummins
Siddle
Pattinson
Lyon
of course i know they will pick Ponting
October 14th 2012 @ 5:45pm
Disco said | October 14th 2012 @ 5:45pm | Report comment
Shaun Marsh?! Are you Mickey Arthur by any chance?
October 13th 2012 @ 4:21pm
Swampy said | October 13th 2012 @ 4:21pm | Report comment
Chris’ team should be:
Warner (NSW)
Cowan (ex-NSW)
Clarke (NSW)
Ponting (lives in NSW)
Watson (plays for NSW)
Smith (NSW)
Haddin (NSW)
O’Keefe (NSW)
Starc (NSW)
Hazelwood (NSW)
Bird (ex-NSW)
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October 13th 2012 @ 5:21pm
Jason said | October 13th 2012 @ 5:21pm | Report comment
Henriques for Ponting.
October 13th 2012 @ 6:16pm
Arthur Fonzarelli said | October 13th 2012 @ 6:16pm | Report comment
Last time we played the SAFFAS I remember P.Hughes flogging Steyne, Morkel et al around the park like they a B Grade under 12′s attack.
Then the selectors saw fit to drop him.
October 13th 2012 @ 6:39pm
Timmuh said | October 13th 2012 @ 6:39pm | Report comment
The selectors may have dropped him, but third slip never does.
I can’t see him geting back into the side until the weakness NZ brutally exposed is rectified.
October 14th 2012 @ 4:13pm
Steve said | October 14th 2012 @ 4:13pm | Report comment
fully agreed, they need to drastically work on that, he is too good a player to not make it back into the test team because of a niggle like that, his first class statistics are very impressive especially considering he is only 23, if they groom him on those skills, get him into the test team for a few years and by the time he is 28-30 and in his prime he will be great.