Queensland Roos are smart arses

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    After the game at Dairy Farmers on Saturday night, the victory for Australia was soured by Queensland players singing their Queensland State of Origin victory song, let’s call it “the yippee song”.

    What, the Aussie team don’t have a victory song?

    Former Kangaroo (and renowned New South Welshman) Tommy Raudonikis has labelled the Queensland players as smart arses for their choice of song after the game.

    Is the state rivalry affecting our Aussie team’s comradeship, which was once something treasured by all who wore the green and gold?

    There is already some who believe that Test matches are a thing of the past and people have lost interest in what was once a great spectacle.

    I for one used to love the three match Tests and it was always a great contest, but has the might of Origin taken the gloss of a once great series?

    Most people you talk to now, it’s all about Origin, with Test matches being a very poor second.

    Is it time to make Test matches a four year thing to try and bring back the interest, because the hype about State of Origin is massive and is very hard to beat.

    Whichever way it goes, I think the powers that be need to have a long look the placement of Test matches, and how to bring back the interest in country versus country for players and fans.

    Because if the players are singing their state song instead of combined Aussie song to celebrate their victory for Australia, what does that say about the future of the green and gold?

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    • October 16th 2012 @ 8:23am
      Roarsome said | October 16th 2012 @ 8:23am | ! Report

      At least they didn’t mock the opposition by using the hand grenade post try celebration. There’s too many blues in the Australian side anyway. The few that should be there should be honored to wear the jersey of a winner and not be worried about the song. Tommy should buy another pack of “durrys” and jump back in his cab….. He can take his sick pup cattle dog with him too.

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        October 16th 2012 @ 9:05am
        steve b said | October 16th 2012 @ 9:05am | ! Report

        Roarsome so i take it you don’t think it showed any disrespect ,to the NSW players ?

        • October 16th 2012 @ 8:18pm
          formeropenside said | October 16th 2012 @ 8:18pm | ! Report

          More I dont care, myself. NSW have shown Qld enough disrespect over the years to earn a little back.

        • October 16th 2012 @ 9:30pm
          Lovey said | October 16th 2012 @ 9:30pm | ! Report

          Hi Steve, I’m usually with you. I didn’t see this one, but were the guys singing it meaning to disrespect the NSW guys? I just reckon the fans get caught up in this state rivalry too much, the players are mates, basically.

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            October 17th 2012 @ 7:48am
            steve b said | October 17th 2012 @ 7:48am | ! Report

            Lovey i don’t know if it was disrespect or they are just so used to singing after a victory , but disappointing to say the least , and as for the mateship those in the know say their seems to be a bit of a rift with the boys choosing to sit at meal times with their respective states , so i don’t think it’s as rosy as it once was …

            • October 20th 2012 @ 11:13am
              Lovey said | October 20th 2012 @ 11:13am | ! Report

              Steve, I had a look at it now, and I reckon there is nothing in it much. It looked like the Morrises, Farah and Bird were singing along. To me the body language does not show any great schism in the group. Maybe it is all a Paul Kent beat-up?

      • October 16th 2012 @ 11:36am
        Mals said | October 16th 2012 @ 11:36am | ! Report

        Nice one Roarsome, bring up something that happen 10 years ago!

    • October 16th 2012 @ 8:27am
      Boomshanka said | October 16th 2012 @ 8:27am | ! Report

      Steve B

      You nailed it when you said “because the hype about State of Origin is massive and is very hard to beat.”

      Unfortunately the media love a story where they can’t lose and local NSW vs QLD is exactly that.

      Last weekends test match build up was disappointing and left a ‘relatively’ flat feeling to the year. Even Channel Nine who chose to broadcast “live and exclusive” had the match after the A league in its previous sports news coverage. These are the same people that can promote the hell out of such loved shows as Excess Baggage or Farmer wants a wife, yet when it comes to bringing us international sport their marketing department can’t deliver.

      An Origin ‘Series’ works and delivers blockbuster attendances and ratings. International Test ‘Series’ need to be organised in line with other Origin and other codes. There is nothing better than seeing a team lift and improve over multiple games.

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        October 16th 2012 @ 8:53am
        steve b said | October 16th 2012 @ 8:53am | ! Report

        Boomshanka , your right nothing beats watching a team lift and improve over a series , and your spot on in regards media build up it hardly exists for test matches ..especially if you compare the hype the media creates for SOO ..

    • October 16th 2012 @ 8:33am
      oikee said | October 16th 2012 @ 8:33am | ! Report

      The quicker Origin takes over international league the better. What is wrong with having Queensland and NSW play NZ separately .
      Origin is the pinnacal of the game. It is the biggest sporting contest in Australia, why not build on that. The sooner NZ is brought into the contest the better. Why is our game always fighting a good thing. International league can grow off the back of Origin. is it really that hard to understand, do the dummies running our game find it that hard to comprehend.
      This is our game in a nutshell, no thinkers, no forethought, no wonder we cant grow the game. Same as memberships, how long did it take for the warriors and other teams to wake up to the fact that they had heaps of supporters in Sydney where they play alot of their matches, same as Melbourne and Brisbane.
      Too slow, too many dinosaurs have held the game back.

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        October 16th 2012 @ 9:02am
        steve b said | October 16th 2012 @ 9:02am | ! Report

        Oikee yes i would love to see a three way Origin ,especially the way our test matches are being under mined by the sheer monster we call SOO , although as i said in the article i loved the 3 test match series , but it seems we may never get back to was once a huge look forward to on the rugby league calendar ..

        • October 16th 2012 @ 9:50am
          The (not so) Special One said | October 16th 2012 @ 9:50am | ! Report

          No one would care about NSW v NZ or QLD v NZ. Additionally it is disrespectful to another country’s national team – ‘Hey, you’re not good enough to play against our whole country just play against one state”

          • October 16th 2012 @ 10:04am
            eagleJack said | October 16th 2012 @ 10:04am | ! Report

            Agree. Can you imagine the NZRU doing something similar against the Wallabies?

            International league has a huge place in our game. More work needs to be done to bring it up to the level of Origin. But to simply include the Kiwis into Origin would be the easy solution and simply tell the world “we give up, we dont care about the International game”. Smart business isn’t always about taking the easy option. It will take hard work but a flourishing International scene is better for rugby league in the long run

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              October 16th 2012 @ 10:31am
              steve b said | October 16th 2012 @ 10:31am | ! Report

              eaglejack i think many would agree with your sentiments ,however it seems the powers to be are not interested , we have gone backwards in the way it used to be . How many promo ‘s did you see promoting the test match on t.v compared to origin . i would like nothing more than to see go back to the way it was ,As someone said to me the other day about the test match issue ,Steve you are a dinosaur you have to move with the times and test matches just aren’t as commercially viable as they once were . And if you can’t put bum’s on seats then get rid of it . i don’t agree but it looks like that the way we are heading …

            • October 16th 2012 @ 12:09pm
              oikee said | October 16th 2012 @ 12:09pm | ! Report

              I replied to the special one below. If you dont want the game to grow, do nothing, keep playing test matches. I never said get rid of the tests, all i said is grow origin pie, you know, the money tree, like other codes do, play heaps and heaps of big games to reap in the doe.
              Mate i dont care if the game does nothing, they have done nothing for 100 years now, lets keep doing nothing.

              Origin is the cashcow, we need to grow it bigger, it has to happen,. It is too big now, look, i am trying to grow the game, fast, we have wasted years and years with the way the game is run, it needs change, big change and fast. Origin is the turbo charger, we etiher use it or lose it.

            • October 17th 2012 @ 9:40am
              planko said | October 17th 2012 @ 9:40am | ! Report

              Eaglejack the funny thing is about New Zealand rugby is that they probably are thinking about doing it as no one is giving them a run at the moment and the ARU will loose players post any NRL expansion after the TV deal.

          • October 16th 2012 @ 12:05pm
            oikee said | October 16th 2012 @ 12:05pm | ! Report

            Look, i try to bring up ideas, that is all. The whole idea is to get NZ playing at a higher level more often, so when we do play test matches it will be a really close hard fought contest. Did i say drop test matches. ????

            Thwe whole idea is to grow the pot, you know the money tree, the green stuff, the thing that makes the world go around. A 3 way contest will be hugfe, you will get all the kiwis on board and have sellout 3 way crowds,

            I give up, 🙁 why do you think the Wallabies and allblacks play a million tests a year, they are reaping the cash in with these ggames. Rugby league has a huge opportunity to grow the pot, if they dont want to then good, go bacvk to our little 2 state game and stay their, it does not worry me anymore.

            • October 16th 2012 @ 3:57pm
              Tommygun said | October 16th 2012 @ 3:57pm | ! Report

              If you want the Kiwi’s to grow stronger how about a NZ Origin the same time as the Aus Origin? Auckland v the other provinces. I know a few guys from Auckland and few not… They definately have a rivalry!

          • October 16th 2012 @ 12:45pm
            Go warriors said | October 16th 2012 @ 12:45pm | ! Report

            I agree I would hate to see NZ play Queensland or NSW. As a proud Kiwi I would find that concept very disrespectul and insulting. Why cant we leave both state of origin and test matches seperately as they are.

            I believe NZ v Australia test matches are as good as origin. It is only the media and the annoying experts that dont give international RL the recognition it deserves.

            • October 16th 2012 @ 5:00pm
              Emric said | October 16th 2012 @ 5:00pm | ! Report

              Have you been sharing drinks with John on Planet Key?

              • October 16th 2012 @ 6:48pm
                League fan said | October 16th 2012 @ 6:48pm | ! Report

                What are you on about Emric.

            • October 16th 2012 @ 8:58pm
              Steve said | October 16th 2012 @ 8:58pm | ! Report

              Especially as you’d lose to both.

            • October 27th 2012 @ 8:08pm
              CJW72 said | October 27th 2012 @ 8:08pm | ! Report

              Have to agree.. Tests have very little build up but by and large the content of the games are first class, high quality games with high intensity. The difference being without the assisted hype and build up from the Media that is bestowed upon SOO. Also there is no campaign or result to build up momentum towards in the media due to token one off fixtures.. Bring back Test series FFS.. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to work out the formula for international success. The talent is there, it’s undeniable..

          • October 27th 2012 @ 8:00pm
            CJW72 said | October 27th 2012 @ 8:00pm | ! Report

            Not to mention that the Kiwis were only just defeated by the combined best from both NSW and QLD and NZ. I’m sure the State of NZ could more than hold their own. NZs population is State like by proportion. Interesting.. With all the poaching by Kangaroos being akin to NSW pre Origin era I’m sure NZ could unleash its own grudge and chant NEWZEALANDER just as hard as any Qldr..

      • October 16th 2012 @ 4:08pm
        Junioroz74 said | October 16th 2012 @ 4:08pm | ! Report

        Super League tried this back in 1997 as a tri-series, and look where Super League is now, burned and it’s ashes buried under 3 tonnes of peat moss. When will people realise that New Zealand isn’t a state, granted they were asked during the federation of Australia to join, but only to a resounding no. Leave the internationals between our two countries to Rugby Union.

    • October 16th 2012 @ 9:09am
      Luc said | October 16th 2012 @ 9:09am | ! Report

      There was a song the Kangaroos used to sing, and it was great.Something along the lines of “We are the Aussie boys. We had a win today. Something something something. We showed them how to play.” Then it ends with “Cheers boys cheers we are together. Every now and then we have a win.” Not sure why that song would get lost in the mists of time. A shame the QLD boys would take that approach on what was a true team effort.

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        October 16th 2012 @ 9:12am
        steve b said | October 16th 2012 @ 9:12am | ! Report

        Luc well said and i agree !!

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        October 16th 2012 @ 11:15am
        Mantis said | October 16th 2012 @ 11:15am | ! Report

        That song was used by the St George team from the 50’s and 60’s, when they won all those premierships. They’d sing it in the sheds after a win. The Aussie team at the time consisted of a lot of the St George team, so they changed the words of the song and adapted it for the Australian team.

        A bit like what QLD did, but at least they changed the words a bit.

    • October 16th 2012 @ 9:23am
      JasonA said | October 16th 2012 @ 9:23am | ! Report

      I have thought that for a while now as well oikee. International league is a very stale concept. Playing as separate colonies would really freshen up both origin and international league. It would stop the poaching of kiwi talent (James Tamou etc.) and seriously QLD would love to be known as world champions haha. Course the NRL season would have to be shortened to fit the extra games in.

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        October 16th 2012 @ 9:35am
        steve b said | October 16th 2012 @ 9:35am | ! Report

        JasonA i think thats the way it’s heading , unless they can some how bring back the interest in the test matches !!

        • October 16th 2012 @ 12:38pm
          Pot Stirrer said | October 16th 2012 @ 12:38pm | ! Report

          I think the only way to bring back the interest int tests is to have a 3 test series against the kiwis in the same fashion that SOO is done. Maybe its time to replace SOO with test footy, it would solve the eligitably fiasco we have now. it might take a year or 2 to get to the same hype but i think it could be done.

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            October 16th 2012 @ 12:56pm
            steve b said | October 16th 2012 @ 12:56pm | ! Report

            Pot stirrer i agree with eaglejack i think we could have both ,if the powers to be could get their s–t together , i love the three game series and i’m sure if promoted right would bring the fan’s interest back in test matches , do i think it will happen , no because of time and the dollar issue . If you haven;t noticed common sense never prevails when it comes down to the NRL making decisions about the future of the game just look at their views on expansion ..

            • October 16th 2012 @ 1:14pm
              Pot Stirrer said | October 16th 2012 @ 1:14pm | ! Report

              i agree, but i do think the game will eventually expand but then i dont see how we can have a SOO series
              between 2 states only when and if we have a team in WA and maybe SA. It is difficult but International competition should be the pinnacle of All sports imo. SOO is the pinnacle for us. In other codes they have
              RU, World Cup,Bledisoe,6 nations, and the the new 4 nation series. All held in very high esteem.
              Soccer, World Cup, european Cup, 2 of the biggest sporting events in the World.
              Cricket, Everybodys only interested in internationals especially the Ashes.
              Hockey has the olympics and im sure thier would be plenty more examples.
              It would also help with the NRL expansion as everybody is interested in international competition and would get plent of media exposure. They could follow up a midseason series against the Kiwis with a series against the English at the end of the season and i think if this happened aswell as the kiwis having a series against the poms somewhere in all that it would build the interst in the RLWC to rival the other codes world cups.

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                October 16th 2012 @ 1:31pm
                steve b said | October 16th 2012 @ 1:31pm | ! Report

                That’s why some want a 20 team comp and only play each team once except for finals of course and this would allow SOO and tests to fit in the normal season , i don’t know the answers but i do know that it will be sad day if we don’t keep test matches alive and profitable . The new commish have plenty on their plate let’s just hope we see some brilliant ideas that have been talked about come to being because at the moment ,to use oikee’s favourite saying ,it’s a dog’s breakfast very messy ..

      • October 16th 2012 @ 12:11pm
        bjt said | October 16th 2012 @ 12:11pm | ! Report

        Didn’t Super League try this and everyone hated it? Heaven forbid in the land of super league haters, they would want to poach one of their ideas…

        The thing I do not understand, is why no one seems to realize that the whole Origin/NZ issue (if there is one) has a simple solution – we can have our cake and eat it too.

        1. Origin cannot be touched, and diluted by adding other states or nations. This would kill the concept, as it is simply because QLD v NSW is the precise reason it is popular. If it was QLD v NSW v NZ it would have NEVER reached the level it has today. Why for the love of god can some people not see this??? Taking away the reason it is popular equals what?

        2. Cake time. Answer me this, where does is say in the rules or lore of rugby league that QLD/NSW can only play three games per year? The answer is an end of year of competition that could have QLD/NSW/NZ/PNG and expanded to include other pacific islands and states. Too one sided for minnow states, bring in a tier system, where only the best make it through to the top dogs. Too much rugby league for the players? Reduce the NRL season – 26 rounds begins to drag around round 20.

        This will allows us to keep state of origin in its original form, plus help develop the nations around the world, develop the states, give us more league at the end of the season. Its win win.

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          October 16th 2012 @ 12:42pm
          steve b said | October 16th 2012 @ 12:42pm | ! Report

          bjt great idea let’s hope the NRL are reading today , plenty agree with you ,but none that matter , it’s all becoming about the mighty dollar and unless a concept can show huge prospectus they will never even consider it …

    • October 16th 2012 @ 9:44am
      eagleJack said | October 16th 2012 @ 9:44am | ! Report

      The great Darren Lockyer would never have allowed such a thing to happen. But he was class on and off the field. I thought Nate Myles reaction said it all. He looked shocked and embarrassed that it was being sung.

      Gallen’s handling of it afterwards was impressive basically saying that the QLDers were so used to singing it that they did so out of habit. Still it was disappointing to see.

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        October 16th 2012 @ 10:03am
        steve b said | October 16th 2012 @ 10:03am | ! Report

        eaglejack yes i do believe the great Darren Locker or the King would have never allowed it to happen , and yes Gallen’s remark’s were to be commended ,for not reacting in the negative . And yes very disappointing !!

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        October 16th 2012 @ 11:16am
        Mantis said | October 16th 2012 @ 11:16am | ! Report

        I agree. It is embarrassing for NSW players. QLD didnt win the game.

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