Mundine vs Geale will cap off big few months for Australian boxing
By John Davidson, 17 Oct 2012 John Davidson is a Roar Guru
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WBA middleweight world boxing champion Felix Sturm, left, and IBF world boxing champion Daniel Geale of Australia fight during their unification title bout in Oberhausen, Germany, Saturday, Sept. 1, 2012. Geale won the fight by points. (AP Photo/Martin Meissner)
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The announcement of the blockbuster rematch between Daniel Geale and Anthony Mundine will cap off a big few months for Australian boxing.
‘The Man’ versus ‘The Real Deal’ rematch is a done deal, with the two Indigenous pugilists to slug it in early 2013, potentially on January 23.
This will be a hell of a fight – Geale with the chance to avenge his only loss, a controversial split decision to the former NRL star in 2009, and shut up the mouthy ‘Man’ who has been a vocal critic.
For Mundine, this is just about his last chance for greatness and another world title. His plans for the US have largely fallen on deaf ears and his pleas for a shot at Floyd Mayweather Jr remain laughable to many.
Defeating Geale again would not only be a huge deal, it would give him another world title and vault him back in the spotlight as a worthy contender.
The bout would also be a huge draw – our best fighter at the moment, a dual world champion who has just travelled to Germany twice to win world titles, up against Australia’s self-styled Muhummad Ali. Mundine has been the biggest name in Australian boxing for the past 12 years and has dominated the local scene.
It might not make as much money as the Danny Green versus Mundine fight in 2006, but it will go close. A juicier fight between two quality Australian boxers we haven’t seen in ages.
At the same time local fight fans are being treated to some quality bouts in the coming weeks. Green will face off against New Zealand’s Shane Cameron for the vacant IBO cruiserweight world title in Melbourne on November 21. On the same card IBO super featherweight world Will Tomlinson will take on Panama’s Irving Berry.
Green may have disposed of Danny Santiago in fairly impressive fashion recently, but his career is coming to an end. He has a chance for another world title but will be up against it.
The big Kiwi with the 29 win, 2 loss record is an opponent to be respected and it may be a step too far for the Perth-raised pugilist.
This will also be an important fight for the promising undefeated super featherweight Tomlinson. The boy from Blacktown will defend his belt against the solid Panamanian, as a debut in the US beckons.
Back to the US is where Billy Dib is headed, after signing with Mayweather’s promotional team. It is unclear exactly where his next bout will take place but the opponent is expected to be Argentinian Mauricio Javier Muñoz, after Muñoz defeated Luis Franco in their IBF featherweight eliminator.
The fight needs to happen by December 7, and the talented IBF world champion from Sydney will face the South American who has moved up from super bantamweight. Partnering with the promotional prowess of ‘Pretty Boy’ should see Dib’s name soar in boxing circles.
And then there is Joel Brunker, another Aussie featherweight with a lot of potential. On October 27, the 26-year old will be pitted against the Dominican Carlos Fulgencio at Turning Stone Resort and Casino, in Verona, New York in his US debut.
Brunker has aligned with Geale’s promoter, Gary Shaw, and is looking to make a big splash with American fight fans. He has spent the past five weeks training at top gyms in Vegas, sparring with the likes of Rances Barthelemy and Sharef Bogere, and is raring to go.
“My preparation is going good, it’s hard being away from home but it’s worth it,” Brunker told me in a recent interview.
Brunker expects Fulgencio to use his superior height and box from the outside, but remains confident.
“I will cut the ring off and control the tempo of fight,” he said. “My USA debut is just another step to me getting to a word title and get some good exposure. Of course there will be nerves but that’s a part of the game, I have fought all over the world as amateur so that should help.”
The brawler from Richmond and former Olympian looked up to Kosta Tszyu and Robbie Peden as a kid, and has eyes on the WBO featherweight belt currently held by Orlando Salido. If Brunker can claim that title, a super battle with fellow Aussie Dib may await.
“WBO is what we are chasing at moment but that could always change,” he said.
“I am interested in a fight with Billy, it would be good for Australian boxing. I’m not worried with which one (is my next opponent), all I want to do is test myself and see what I’m capable of. Plus I have to get over my next fight first, you are only as good as your last fight.
“Of course it would be good to make a big impression in the US, but all I am worried about is getting another win under my belt, that’s the main thing.”
So we have Geale-Mundine, Green-Cameron, Tomlinson-Berry, Dib-Muñoz, Brunker-Fulgencio. And with Michael Katsidis back in Australia, training on the Gold Coast for his next bout, and the evergreen Vic Darchinyan eyeing another world title after demolishing Luis Orlando Del Valle, things are shaping up nicely for the sweet science down under.
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October 17th 2012 @ 3:48am
Johnno said | October 17th 2012 @ 3:48am | Report comment
This could be the biggest fight being fought in Australia in Australian boxing history hype and interest wise. Could break all pay tv main event records for a fight in Australia. I wish it was in Tasmania too Hobart,Devonport,Beaconsifeld, or launceston, or Burnie,.
The energy and atmposhere would be off the charts if it was at taste. Have it outside at Bellrive oval, or at Aurora stadium in Launceston or the Derwent entertainment centre in Hobart, home of the now defunct Hobart taste devils in the NBL.
How rare a top tassy champion fighting another aussy local and especially a personality and hype and love him or hate him drawcard appeal as Anthony “the man” Mundine,.
-Some big aussy fights in Australia that spring to mind.
Jeff fenech VS Azumah Nelson in the 1990′s was pretty big. Green VS Mundine in 2006, maybe Jeff Harding had a world title fight here,.
Green VS Roy Jones was interesting too it didn’t last long ,. And Mundine VS Mickeal Kessler of Denmark the world tittle holder was pretty big , Antonia Tarver VS Danny Green, and Kostya Tszu , had a few big fights here too.
But hype wise I think this will be no 1 it will pip them all as this is a real world title fight where as Danny Green VS Mundine in 2006 wasn’t a world title fight. And this is an aussy like Mundine so much hype this is the man we are talking about, trying to take a world title belt form a current world champion, and the totally different personality styles too make it a promoters dream for all sorts of reasons. A brash multi talented sportsman of indigenous as well as anglo saxon origin (on his mother’s side) from the bright lights of Sydney,.
Son of Tony Mundine former aussy national champion, who also once fought for the world title vs Carloz Monzon of Argentina and lost but put up a good show in Argentina. A former NRL star and origin star who probably would of played for Australia if he stayed in league, and was one of the highest paid NRL players, he was the man.
Also was a talanted basketball player who got offered a contract by the Sydney kings.
VS a humble aussy bloke from Tasmania who like typical tasmanians just gets on with his work no flash or flamboyance, the contrasting backgrounds and personalities could not be more different making it really exciting even more..
Danny Green like Mundine was very brash and loud , where as Geale is quite and just no nonsense and down to earth which is rare for Boxers. The press conferences will be fascinating inetself.
And now the tables have turned. Geale has something Mundine wants and craves badly , and he has to for once in his life be on the backfoot and give back more than he takes, and show Geale a lot of respect. And he has , he has swallowed his pride , and apparently Geale will get paid more for this fight a bigger cut and rightfully so as he is the world champ despite in my opinion a less talented athlete obviously, and a less talented boxer.
Fact is he is the world champ and Mundine is not.
Mundine has lost 3 world title fights from memory. One to Sven Ottke when he wasn’t really ready yet, then to Micheal Kessler, and also too Manyy Siaca .
And the belt he lost to Manny Siaca wasn’t a true world title in my mind. As Sven Otke had been upgraded to “super champion status”. So in reality they were fighting for no 2.
So Mundine has a mixed record in the really big fights against world class opponents. His big wins vs Green. Green has to weigh down, and was lighter than his usual weight so was down on power and energy . He lost to Garth wood then won the rematch, but honestly Garth Wood is a plodder. He only got a shot coz he won from memory the Australian contender reality tv show.
Sam Soliman lost to mundane but caused mundane problems. And the 3 top overseas fighters, the top 2 Otke and Kessler beat him. Mundine fought okay he dominated Otke a lot but ultimately lost too them both , they were both hardened fighters. Kessler lost to Joe Cailzaghe who in a unification fight that was a quite a fight.
And the taller Siaca beat Mundine too.
This will be a great fight will be very interesting , no love will be lost both will be highly motivated and desperate for all sorts of reasons. The first fight between these 2 was declared a draw on appeal from memory. And now Geale has something Mundine wants. Like the Green VS Mundine fight local derbies are always personally with intense rivalry. This to me has a bit of Mike Tyson VS Lenno Lewis or Holyfield, or Ali VS Frasier, or Ali VS Foreman.
Very personal fight as well as physical. Going to be intense no love lost that’s for sure, will both be 2 motivated fighters for multiple reasons.
Very
October 17th 2012 @ 2:18pm
Tigranes said | October 17th 2012 @ 2:18pm | Report comment
Johnno, the biggest boxing match ever to have taken place in Australia involved an American (Jack Johnson) and a Canadian (Tommy Burns), took part in early 20th century, I dont think it will be surpassed.
October 18th 2012 @ 3:37pm
Cliff said | October 18th 2012 @ 3:37pm | Report comment
I saw a documentray on SBS about that – what an amazing story.
October 17th 2012 @ 6:25am
The Grafter said | October 17th 2012 @ 6:25am | Report comment
Im interested in how much Mundines camp has put up to fight Geale? Obviously alot plus he should get the majority split of the PPV. There was much talk about IBF No1 Sam Solimon having the madatory title shot at Geale which has ‘fallen away’. That would of been a nothing fight for the champ who had everything to lose and nothing to gain. No offence to Sam, but it wouldnt of drawn like this return fight. Geale to win, and win well on points against an aging Mundine who will be remembered not as he should be (he was a terrific fighter). As for him domiating local boxing for 12 years. Perhaps, however I would argue Tszyu until Ricki Hatton knocked him out in 2005 was still the No1 fighter in this country.
Australia is currently very strong in the lighter weight divisions, particularly super featherweight as mentioned by John. Another to watch for next year is the Top Rank signed Paul Fleming. Mick Katsidis (in my opinion Australias fighter post Tszyu- pre-Geale titles) is struggling at 135 pounds having to constantly waste to stay at lightweight. Katsidis has found it difficult fighting at light welterweight, although a fight with Ricki Hatton was near last month (even Boxrec had it down for one day). Hopefully Katidis will get himself right, and have one more chance at glory.
Indeed Green vs Cameron will be another worth watching. Cameron has fought four times at Cruiserweight for four wins, but has acked power when dropping to this weight. He was found out by David Tua whom almost finished his career in 09 (world class vs local class), and struggled to beat Va on a Green undercard (Tarver) last year. However a recent victory (at heavyweight) over Monte Barrett (the first an to put Tua down) is Camerons biggest to date.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:10am
jamesb said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:10am | Report comment
its funny how times have changed since 2009. Since that loss, geale has won two world tiltes, while Mundine has done nothing
Mind you in the fight, Geale was unlucky. If I was to put an early tip in, Geale should win easily, and hopefully end Mundines career.
October 17th 2012 @ 12:24pm
Damien said | October 17th 2012 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
Then why is Geale taking the fight ?
The media paint Mundine out as only taking on bums, and Geale as only taking world class fighters.
With that flawed logic it would seem that Geale is the one taking on bums and Mundine taking on world class fighters.
I’m personally really excited about this fight. Both fighters are great Australian boxers. To me it would seem that Geale has more to lose than Mundine.
Mundine loses and its 1 – 1. Geale loses and its 0 – 2. Also if Geale wins it wouldn’t be that big a win for his record because most people expect him to come out on top, Mundine wins and not only will it be an upset IMO but it be a huge shot in the arm for his career.
Boxing respect wise Geale is the bigger name. PPV wise Mundine is the bigger draw. So both will profit handsomely from a win.
Com’on Choc !!
October 17th 2012 @ 4:54pm
Johnno said | October 17th 2012 @ 4:54pm | Report comment
Choc has taken on some big names , one of the myths was choc didn’t fight world class fighters ,he has.
The List
Sven Otke
Micheal Kessler
Manny Siaca
Antwan Echols
Danny Green
Sam Soliman
All these fighters have been world class. He also Mundine fought an ageing Lester Ellis
October 17th 2012 @ 5:07pm
Damien said | October 17th 2012 @ 5:07pm | Report comment
No argument here Johnno..
October 19th 2012 @ 3:12am
Droppa said | October 19th 2012 @ 3:12am | Report comment
Lost to three of them & the the tag “world class” gets thrown around easily these days…by you anyway.
October 17th 2012 @ 5:54pm
The Grafter said | October 17th 2012 @ 5:54pm | Report comment
Your dead right. Geale everything to lose, the reverse Mundine.
October 17th 2012 @ 9:31am
Not Inerterested said | October 17th 2012 @ 9:31am | Report comment
Wake me up when its over.
October 17th 2012 @ 4:53pm
Richard said | October 17th 2012 @ 4:53pm | Report comment
Damien. The reason Danny is taking this fight, is cause he might as well fight Mundine, and make some money. Instead of fighting Sam Solomon for little reward. Danny has beaten 2 credited fighters and taken their belts. Something Anthony has never done. Lets face it. Mundine has been robbing the public for years. Can t wait for the big fight for Geale against Golvkin next year. Hopefully that will happen,
October 17th 2012 @ 11:04pm
Damien said | October 17th 2012 @ 11:04pm | Report comment
I know and agree with most of what you said (for the reason Geale is taking the fight) bar Mundine robbing the public thing. Just a difference of perspective which no amount of rationale on either side will resolve.
I have absolutely no problem what so ever with fighters making hay while the sun shines. Risk/Reward etc.
For all that Geale has achieved recently he still lost to Mundine. I understand the controversy surrounding it but in my eyes I thought it was really close (maybe a very close Geale SD) and that the judges were better off flipping a coin. If Geale had won I would have been comfortable with that result as well.
Things all going to plan Geale should beat Mundine. Thats on paper though.
What I find interesting is despite all the flak that Mundine gets (including from Geale) but they all know where the payday is in Australian Boxing, and thats fighting Mundine.
To me it sort of seems like Geale can’t believe that he’s taking on Choc but we all got bills to pay.
I personally can’t wait. Geale a clear favourite but I’m backing Choc..
October 17th 2012 @ 4:58pm
Mals said | October 17th 2012 @ 4:58pm | Report comment
I’m looking forward to seeing Joel Brunker fight his first bout in the US. I watched him fight in Richmond a couple of years ago, he’s got good aggression & punching power but he’s yet to fight a big name.
October 17th 2012 @ 5:53pm
The Grafter said | October 17th 2012 @ 5:53pm | Report comment
Ditto Paul Fleming Mals. Arum hasnt signed him without reason, and hes had one
fight in the states against a no-one. He recently fought on the Sunshine Coast, but
as Katsidis proved, needs to get in amongst it overseas.
October 18th 2012 @ 7:43am
Frankie Hughes said | October 18th 2012 @ 7:43am | Report comment
Daniel Geale the paper Middleweight Champion.
He’s too scared to face Golovkin, his WBA mandatory defence.
He’s not a top level fighter and the sooner we return to one belt per division the better.
Sergio Martinez is the Middleweight King. Geale is a fake.
October 18th 2012 @ 9:27am
The Grafter said | October 18th 2012 @ 9:27am | Report comment
IBF and WBA is no pretender champion Frank.
You are right re Martinez who destroyed a ‘doped up’ Chavez Jnr.
I do agree though Geale should be now fighting the likes of Martinez, Golovkin and the fivers.
October 18th 2012 @ 10:53am
Frankie Hughes said | October 18th 2012 @ 10:53am | Report comment
In reality the only championship worth any salt is the Ring Magazine title.
No sanctioning fees. Prestigious title.
The alphabet titles are money making tools for the WBA WBC IBF and WBO.
Geale can’t fight Martinez at present as he’a out with a knee op.
But I would thought he’d fight Golovkin, it’s a box office fight.
Mundine isn’t really preparing Geale for fights with the big names at 160.
October 18th 2012 @ 10:18pm
JJ said | October 18th 2012 @ 10:18pm | Report comment
Geale is in good form and Mundine hasn’t been doing anything but run his dumb ass mouth. No split decision this time. If Geale connects with Mundine, the self proclaimed Rabid Dog (half Pit bull and Chinese something dog…lol), will lose. I’m predicting Geale will win by knockout.
Personally I’d love to see Mundine vs Martinez. That fight would resemble the fight Kostya had against Zab Juda…
Mundine – float like a butterfly, sleep like a log.
November 9th 2012 @ 6:08pm
g r crowther said | November 9th 2012 @ 6:08pm | Report comment
What some people have to understand boxers have to earn there rankings you just can’t fight money Mayweather as in Mundines case Mundine mcart generated 286 pay per view patrons to be the best you have to fight the best have a look at sugar ray robinsons record before you start calling your self the man and how dare you try to copy ali Antony you will always be remembered as the mouth