Rugby ref tells of ‘nasty political stuff’
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Retired referee Bryce Lawrence has claimed he was hounded out of rugby by Australia and South Africa following his performance in last year’s World Cup quarter-final.
Lawrence, 41, has also revealed his performance in that game in Wellington was influenced by behind-the-scenes complaints from Australian Rugby Union chief executive John O’Neill.
“I had four really good games at the World Cup and then I had that,” New Zealander Lawrence told the Bay Of Plenty Times.
“There was some pretty nasty political stuff going on about that appointment. I refereed Australia versus Ireland and Ireland had won but behind the scenes guys like John O’Neill were kicking up a massive stink.
“I knew a bit about that and it was enough to affect me, and it probably made me freeze on the biggest stage.”
Australia beat South Africa in Wellington and the fall-out from that match led directly to Lawrence deciding to retire and take up a role as the New Zealand Rugby Union high-performance referee reviewer.
Lawrence was stood down from the International Rugby Board’s elite panel after the World Cup and he did not take charge of any Super Rugby matches in South Africa.
“It (the reaction) got pretty bad,” Lawrence said.
“On Facebook they launched a ‘get rid of Bryce Lawrence’ site and it was pretty nasty.
“That was absolutely the reason for my career change.
“I got told at the end of the World Cup that I would have a break from Test rugby for the Six Nations and I could totally accept that as there has to be a consequence for poor performance.
“I was told I would be brought back in the middle of this year, as I was ranked in the top three or four referees in the world. But because of the political reaction from rugby unions like Australia and South Africa behind the scenes, they dropped me.”
Last month, British and Irish Lions coach Warren Gatland highlighted the pressure Lawrence had been placed under by O’Neill as he outlined the challenges that await his team in Australia.
O’Neill last week resigned from his post at the ARU to focus on business interests outside rugby.
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October 17th 2012 @ 7:56am
mania said | October 17th 2012 @ 7:56am | Report comment
well he cant be accused of being deaf. sorry bryce your just not a big game ref. i dont how you got rated as one of the top 4 refs but its clearly wrong.
i’m just sorry about all the stress it caused you but really u never should’ve made it that far up the refereeing ranks to start with. its better for everyone and yourself that you arent exposed to any more top level matches.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:25am
Barns said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:25am | Report comment
A self pro-claimed top referee can’t withstand a little heat from a rugby administrator? I’d say a career change was definitely in order.
October 17th 2012 @ 1:04pm
atlas said | October 17th 2012 @ 1:04pm | Report comment
^Self proclaimed?
Appointments and selection made by the IRB Match Official Committee.
October 17th 2012 @ 1:45pm
Barns said | October 17th 2012 @ 1:45pm | Report comment
From his comments I get the impression Bryce wasn’t too unhappy being considered a top ref. Maybe I was a little harsh on a guy whose name causes me to groan inwardly every time I hear it though. Point taken
October 17th 2012 @ 5:20pm
cantab said | October 17th 2012 @ 5:20pm | Report comment
The basis of your argument is still sound, I’m sure all of what Bryce said is true, in that John O’Neil put the pressure on, but so he should have. It was JON job to look after Australian rugby’s interest, which in this case he did.
The problem occurred when Bryce couldn’t handle this pressure (by his own admission) and produced a very poor performance in a very important match.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:28am
Riccardo said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:28am | Report comment
The fact that Bryce felt compromised by political machinations speaks volumes to his incompetency at this level IMO.
However, the fact that such pressure was brought to bear in the first place does not bode well for the supposed independence of our officiators.
The vitriol spewed forth by the Bok fans was even worse than our reaction to Barne’s inefficiency in the 2007 Q/F. The more enlightened Bok fan will highlight the Boks’ inability to close out a match they had for the taking and the staunch Wallaby defence as well as some inane decision making but Bryce was not the reason they lost.
Mania sums it up best: “its better for everyone and yourself that you arent exposed to any more top level matches”.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:37am
mania said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:37am | Report comment
thanx riccardo – whats worse with all this is when the oz and SA fans btch and moan thinking they’re the only ones that suffered. kiwi’s have been putting up with bryce for over a decade. i’m happy its ended
October 17th 2012 @ 9:05am
Happy Hooker said | October 17th 2012 @ 9:05am | Report comment
“enlightened Bok fan”. Now there’s an oxymoron for you.
October 17th 2012 @ 9:36am
biltongbek said | October 17th 2012 @ 9:36am | Report comment
Well, whether I am considered an “enlightened” Bok fan or not, the mere fact that Bryce openly admits he allowed the rantings of O’Neill to affect his ability to officiate a QF and adding to that the fact that he dismissed any queries by John Smit and Matfield with a cold shoulder during the match leaves me with little empathy for his situation.
I understand the anger the SA public felt although I don’t agree their methods of retaliation was acceptable, I was not impressed with how he handled the situation.
Best this be put behind us and the memories of this fade as quickly as possible.
October 17th 2012 @ 10:01am
Riccardo said | October 17th 2012 @ 10:01am | Report comment
Well I consider you enlightened mate, along with Suzy and a few others.
IMO, Brussow’s injury was more telling than Bryce’s officiating although I concede he froze in the headlights.
Even with Brussow’s injury that match was still the Boks’ for the taking. People seem to forget the stoic defence of the Wallabies that day, which I believe cost them in the semi against the All Blacks.
October 17th 2012 @ 2:26pm
SandBox said | October 17th 2012 @ 2:26pm | Report comment
spot on with both posts Riccardo. Would like to add the poor decision making, missed kicks and dropped ball to the mix. Anyhow, this is a day for celebration, ding dong the wicked witch from the east is dead. Good riddance
October 17th 2012 @ 11:24am
Sage said | October 17th 2012 @ 11:24am | Report comment
Me too Biltong.
October 17th 2012 @ 12:43pm
Rugby Tragic said | October 17th 2012 @ 12:43pm | Report comment
Have to agree with you 100% biltongbek – not quite admitting it but tantamount being less than impartial.
But you are right, nothing can change the result, we all have to move on. Perhaps with his resignation, in a strange way justice has been served. However objectively the Boks should not have been in that situation, they had so much of the play and still should have won irrespective of the refs incompetence.
There are many, many instances of incompetent refs having too much to do about a result wittingly or not.
October 17th 2012 @ 5:23pm
cantab said | October 17th 2012 @ 5:23pm | Report comment
great post Biltongbek, spot on in my books.
October 17th 2012 @ 9:52pm
biltongbek said | October 17th 2012 @ 9:52pm | Report comment
Cheers guys. Believe me, I was as angry at the time. It took many therapy sessions to get over it.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:29am
Who Needs Melon said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:29am | Report comment
McCaws not very flattering of Bryce in his recent book. Maybe it wasn’t just Oz and SA self interest that ‘hounded out’ Bryce.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:30am
Riccardo said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:30am | Report comment
What did he have to say Melon?
October 17th 2012 @ 12:32pm
Who Needs Melon said | October 17th 2012 @ 12:32pm | Report comment
I can’t tell you that. You’ll just have to buy the book!
Seriously though, I do recommend it – I found it a very interesting read. Some of the things we HAVEN’T seen summarised, paraphrased or taken out of context in the media are actually the most interesting. Not the gossipy bits but insights into the problems with the Christchurch quakes, what these guys go through in terms of training and preparation – physical and psychological, the coaches mixing their roles up, etc.
October 17th 2012 @ 3:01pm
Riccardo said | October 17th 2012 @ 3:01pm | Report comment
I’ve asked the Missus to see her way clear to alter her Xmas purchase Melon.
Disappointed you can’t provide a sample for me tho
October 17th 2012 @ 4:10pm
Who Needs Melon said | October 17th 2012 @ 4:10pm | Report comment
Oh alright. There is a LOT about Bryce’s “no-show” in the Crusaders v. Reds final. And then he comments on the Boks v. Wallabies World Cup match where (his words) Bryce “freezes and forgets to blow his whistle” in that game too.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:29am
The Battered Slav said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:29am | Report comment
You can’t shift blame for being susceptible to JON’s headgames to JON himself.
That’s YOU being weak Bryce, the used car salesman types like JON will always try to play mind games and exert influence. It’s up to the professional referee to ensure that they aren’t affected by such bollocks and that they officiate ‘what’s in front of them’ as the venerable R Deans would probably say!
Anyway, thanks for getting us through the quarters, and enjoy your next gig.
October 17th 2012 @ 5:25pm
cantab said | October 17th 2012 @ 5:25pm | Report comment
exactly, JON was doing his job, Bryce wasn’t.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:39am
formeropenside said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:39am | Report comment
Of course, the elephant in the room is that rucks are now a mess because you dont have proper rucking anymore, and we have these “pretend” rucks where no opposition is bound, its just a pile of players, and under the laws you should be able to walk around the back of the opposition side – there is no gate – and slipper the ball out yourself.
It would also be nice if the halfback – who has no special place in the rules, as far as I know – could be cleaned out with impunity, rather than be treated as some kind of protected species.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:41am
mania said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:41am | Report comment
its not the actual halfback (wearing the 9 jersey) its the player at the base of the ruck doing the hb role
October 17th 2012 @ 9:32am
Uncle Argyle said | October 17th 2012 @ 9:32am | Report comment
I would love to see old fashioned rucking re-introduced. Nothing wrong with it at all. Character building as the ‘old man’ would say. Furthermore I would like to see at scrum time the defensive half not be allowed to advance beyond the scrum line, the half back loitering in the oppositions scrum is an ugly, cheap face of the game and a blight on it. Finally I would like to see at maul time the advantage go back to the team with forward momentum. You should not be rewarded for holding a ball in and up. Its cheap.
October 17th 2012 @ 11:28am
Markus said | October 17th 2012 @ 11:28am | Report comment
I have no issue with that aspect of the maul. Every advantage is already given to the attacking team’s maul, if they cannot even secure their ball carrier in the process they have nobody to blame.
October 17th 2012 @ 12:07pm
Pierce said | October 17th 2012 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
I’d like to see halfbacks penalised for throwing their arms in the air at ruck, maul and scrum time.
October 17th 2012 @ 2:53pm
jeznez said | October 17th 2012 @ 2:53pm | Report comment
Nicko, the Evil One and I put on a rucking demonstration down at Poco Loco on Saturday night. My first effort where I just tried to shoe his back was as ineffective as that move always was.
On my second dig where I just got the windmill feet going and spat him out the back it worked as efficiently as ever.
Spanner and I laughed ourselves silly about it and the group we were demoing for just sat there going so that is what rucking looked like!
October 17th 2012 @ 4:12pm
Uncle Argyle said | October 17th 2012 @ 4:12pm | Report comment
Yes I heard you blokes were back in Bail for a reunion, the good Dr Love was too well to attend. I am pleased to hear the gospel of rucking is still being spread in the bars by those who used to actually performed it on the park.
Kids today have no music and no rucking….what a pity for them.
October 17th 2012 @ 5:54pm
jeznez said | October 17th 2012 @ 5:54pm | Report comment
ps – cracking article the other day. Didn’t have access to the interweb to participate in the discussion. Much too busy sucking back the Bintangs and teaching the young uns rude, I mean rugby, songs.
October 17th 2012 @ 10:40am
Markus said | October 17th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
It is always amazing (read: frustrating) to count the number of law variations that have occurred since the onset of professionalism, to fix problems that never actually existed.
Scrums were never an issue until IRB officials deemed them to be so, and added arbitrary law after arbitrary law to ‘fix’ them.
Rucks prior to rules about the ‘gate’ et al were a s***fight, but an effective one, and the occasional missing testicle aside, one that was pretty much self-officiated.
October 17th 2012 @ 10:52am
Uncle Argyle said | October 17th 2012 @ 10:52am | Report comment
Yes the ‘Buck Shelford’ rule.
October 17th 2012 @ 11:07am
Allanthus said | October 17th 2012 @ 11:07am | Report comment
I thought the Buck Shelford rule was from the 1987 RWC semi, where you were allowed to take the law into your own hands, knock a pest out with one clean punch, leaving the ref to have to wake the bloke up to send him off, while Sir Buck plays on, situation normal….
Now those were the golden days!!!
October 17th 2012 @ 11:27am
Uncle Argyle said | October 17th 2012 @ 11:27am | Report comment
Look I loved Buck as a player and skipper but the Taf wasn’t even looking at him. Buck got him with a blind side punch.
October 17th 2012 @ 11:47am
Allanthus said | October 17th 2012 @ 11:47am | Report comment
Gotta love Chris Handy’s pure gold commentary… “if you want to start something you’ve got to be prepared to continue on with it”
October 17th 2012 @ 1:23pm
Harry said | October 17th 2012 @ 1:23pm | Report comment
Gold UA … I was at that game, in the stand nearby. Remains the funniest thing i’ve seen on a rugby field. RIP Kerry Fitzgerald (the ref who sent the Welshie off).
October 17th 2012 @ 2:20pm
Wally James said | October 17th 2012 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
Harry
I was there too. I spoke to Fitzy after the match. He told me the conversaation went along these lines:
Fitzy: “Are you awake?”
Williams: “Yes”
Fitzy: “Good. Get off!”
October 17th 2012 @ 3:51pm
Harry said | October 17th 2012 @ 3:51pm | Report comment
To use the modern terminology, LOL.
October 17th 2012 @ 4:24pm
Uncle Argyle said | October 17th 2012 @ 4:24pm | Report comment
Great Story Wal
October 17th 2012 @ 11:02am
The Battered Slav said | October 17th 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
Agreed, the way to clean up rucks and prevent ball being slowed down constantly, a return to the self policing of the boot would definitely help.
I do disagree about allowing open season on scrumhalves though. I think it’s in the games interest to have clean ball going out to backs, irrespective of whose ball it is.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:49am
Will Sinclair said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:49am | Report comment
Sorry to hear about this sort of thing.
But you weren’t up to it Bryce. Enjoy retirement.
October 17th 2012 @ 8:56am
Brett McKay said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:56am | Report comment
John O’Neill’s ARU legacy??
October 17th 2012 @ 8:57am
Indio said | October 17th 2012 @ 8:57am | Report comment
By going public and spouting BS about SA and Australian officials of the time, Bryce Lawrence has just confirmed to most of us just how incompetent he is..and was.
““I knew a bit about that and it was enough to affect me, and it probably made me freeze on the biggest stage.” What a damaging self-indictment of his incompetence!! I’m glad he’s out of it now, but I’m even more concerned about his credibility in discharging his responsibilities as “the New Zealand Rugby Union high-performance referee reviewer”.
How can a self-confessed dumbass of a referee “review” the performance of other referees when his own performance has been a disaster? His credibility is already compromised..
October 17th 2012 @ 9:02am
Jeff said | October 17th 2012 @ 9:02am | Report comment
THere is a problem and whether Bryce was a good bad or indifferent referee this does highlight it.
Any criticisms of a referee should come from the head of the international association [not sure of their name but it used to be headed up by Paddy O'Brien and now it is a Scot I believe].
Paddy O’Brien in my opinion quite rightly criticised Stu Dickinson for his display in a test between Italy and the ABs but then all hell was let loose by the ARU.
The rules should be that individual unions cannot criticise the referee but the assocaition should comment on all international performances.
Then one would hope the criticisms would be valid and not coloured by nationalism.
October 17th 2012 @ 10:02am
objective said | October 17th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
Jeff, Paddy O’Brien was entitled to his opinion. And there is a rigourous process of performance review which he should have followed.
He demonstrated extremely poor judgement by airing it publicly, and that Dickinson’s refereeing (according to him) adversely affected the All Blacks (Paddy’s country of birth). He should have been sacked on the spot.
October 17th 2012 @ 11:22am
Rugby Fan said | October 17th 2012 @ 11:22am | Report comment
One of the referees during the recent Australian leg of IRB Sevens was Matthew O’Brien. It turns out that Paddy’s son is not only a referee, he’s an Australian referee. Matt moved to Australia when he was 23 and took citizenship. This year, he received an Australian Sports Commission National Officiating Scholarship.
October 17th 2012 @ 11:32am
Blackness said | October 17th 2012 @ 11:32am | Report comment
I love that “Australian” refs come from our greatest rival. Makes sense.
October 17th 2012 @ 12:26pm
Markus said | October 17th 2012 @ 12:26pm | Report comment
It continues the time-honoured Aussie tradition of claiming anything good NZ produces as proudly Australian.
Never fear though, as soon as Matt produces a single questionable call against the Wallabies the Kiwis will be able to have him back, whether they want to or not.
October 17th 2012 @ 1:40pm
bigbaz said | October 17th 2012 @ 1:40pm | Report comment
Sounds about right.
October 17th 2012 @ 4:24pm
Blackness said | October 17th 2012 @ 4:24pm | Report comment
Anything good NZ produces? Such as?
October 17th 2012 @ 1:14pm
atlas said | October 17th 2012 @ 1:14pm | Report comment
It was never ‘headed’ by Paddy O’Brien
He was Referee Manager.
Despite what forums persist in saying, he was never the International referee selector either. This has been the responsibility of the Committee
This position now held by Frenchman Joel Jutge
The IRB Match Official Committee is headed by chairman John Jeffrey (Scotland). it was previously David Pickering (Wales)
2012 IRB Match Official Selection Committee: John Jeffrey (Chairman), Tappe Henning, Lyndon Bray (both SANZAR), Donal Courtney, Clayton Thomas (both 6 Nations) and Joel Jutge (IRB Referee Manager). The panel meets four times per year with all performances reviewed as part of the next round of international selections.
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Two other NZ referees retire this month: Vinny Munro (86 first class matches) and Keith Brown (108 first class matches)