Queensland’s Origin demise begins now
By Curtis Woodward, 19 Oct 2012 Curtis Woodward is a Roar Guru & Live Blogger
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Queensland player Brent Tate punches NSW player Greg Bird in the head during State of Origin 3 at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane, Wednesday, July 4, 2012 (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)
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Do not be fooled by your calendar. It might be October, but you can guarantee that New South Wales Blues coach Laurie Daley has already begun planning the mighty Queenslanders’ demise.
On the verge of a historic eighth consecutive series win, the Maroons need to be stopped. They have to be.
The 2012 series proved the Blues could go with the champions. They were closer than they have been in many years and the torment of Cooper Cronk’s field goal in game three would still haunt the likes of Paul Gallen and Luke Lewis.
Daley will have depth and plenty of talent to choose from next year.
Robbie Farah’s rise to Origin level gives the Blues another leader alongside Gallen, Lewis and Glenn Stewart. You can add Mitchell Pearce, Jarryd Hayne and Greg Bird to that leadership group.
These men are the foundation moving forward. You can’t question any of these guys or their motivation. They despise Queensland and are desperate to taste series success.
Don’t forget Kurt Gidley either.
You have two firebrands in the engine room that can match and dominate the middle third. James Tamou and Tim Grant are long term front rowers and are here to stay.
Then there are the game breakers. The guys that can win a game with one play.
Men like Tony Williams, Akuila Uate and Josh Morris. X-Factors who can do serious damage to an ageing Queensland outfit.
If Todd Carney can find his feet, the Blues have a legitimately dangerous outfit.
But who else out there can make a difference for the Blues?
Coach Daley will not shy away from picking someone he thinks can do a job. Rather than his predecessor who believed only certain players had “Origin grit”.
Ryan Hoffman’s resurgence gives NSW another fringe attacker. After winning the 2012 premiership with the Melbourne Storm and then gaining Australian selection, Hoffman should be one of the first picked for the Blues.
This might finally spell the end of Ben Creagh’s representative career.
Someone else who should seriously be considered is the enigmatic New Zealand Warriors backrower, Feleti Mateo. For far too long Mateo has been ignored by selectors.
Mateo on his day is the most dangerous backrower in the National Rugby League.
State lines have been divided once more after Saturday night’s Test match where Queensland players sang their team song despite wearing the green and gold of Australia.
Former NSW halfback Tommy Raudonikis added his two cents.
“But what the Queenslanders seem to forget is that the tide, it’ll turn,” Raudonikis told TheTelegraph.com.au.
“And it’s a bloody quick fall from the penthouse.”
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October 19th 2012 @ 6:20am
Andy said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:20am | Report comment
“Queensland’s Origin demise begins now.” Unlikely, NSW would be lucky to win a series at the moment. Having Laurie Daley as coach is a big risk, inexperienced is the first word that comes to mind.
October 19th 2012 @ 6:52am
peeeko said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:52am | Report comment
i have no faith in Laurie Daley what so ever- gee i hope i am wrong
October 19th 2012 @ 6:56am
steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:56am | Report comment
Andy Daley had talent to burn , he was coached by some of the best , you don;t think he picked up a bit along the way , you can’t deny his passion , he has some of the best footy players in the world to chose from , all he has to do is get them playing for each other , and we could see a whole new NSW side . Sticky got us close and i think Daley will get us the prize ..
October 19th 2012 @ 8:48am
Andy said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:48am | Report comment
If Craig Bellamy could not win Origin for NSW, then what chance does Laurie Daley have? Even Ricky Stuart had the coaching job full time and failed.
October 19th 2012 @ 9:02am
steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:02am | Report comment
Sticky failed we lost by one point ,oh please …
October 19th 2012 @ 10:35am
Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:35am | Report comment
Bellamy didnt put the time into it like Stuart has or Daley will.
October 19th 2012 @ 11:23pm
peeeko said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:23pm | Report comment
agree steve, he has the passion and was a great player. it just seems to me that every NRL team that Daley has been involved as a consultant coach have performed poorly. saying that Mal had a very average record as an NRL coach as well and had admitted he is not up to being an NRL coach
October 19th 2012 @ 8:21am
oikee said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:21am | Report comment
“Behold His Mighty Hand” . Said Moses as he parted the red sea.

Someone throw Tommy a packet of Cigarettes, fancy Queenslanders singing the yipper yi song in there own backyard. Gee whiz, break out the cannons, dust off the spitfires and mustangs, this is war.
I was reading the latest league weekly yesterday Curtis,,,,, Barber Cronk Slater Thurston Smith and Inglis top 6 out of the 100 players.
With Scott, Papalii, Taylor,Myles, Shillington, i dont think Queensland will be taking the foot off the gas anytime soon. I was also looking at our young talent coming through, all looking good for the future as well, it won’t be getting any easier for Laurie thats for sure.
We also have some good talent in the junior kiwi team as well i noticed, that’s in QLD i think. New Zealand.
You cant beat us, join us brother, the Kiwis have.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:33am
steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:33am | Report comment
oikee i don’t think it has anything to with where it was played it has to do with the colour of the jersey and it wasn’t maroon mate !!
October 19th 2012 @ 10:37am
Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:37am | Report comment
I’m not worried about Scott, Taylor, Myles etc if the Smiths and Thurstons arent the players they were. Those guys you mentioned are good players (and all forwards). The Blues can out muscle these guys.
October 19th 2012 @ 10:45am
planko said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:45am | Report comment
Curtis the last 2 season’s they have been the better team. Oikee you mentioned 5 players in the forwards… 3 of them would not even play first grade for Penrith. Taylor gets sorted whenever souths plays a real team. Papali will get sorted by all next season but would love to see him get selected for QLD and even Shillington I dont understand why he keeps getting selected I prefer the polar bear myself.
October 19th 2012 @ 2:25pm
matthewthorpe said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:25pm | Report comment
agreed about shillo, sheens seems to love him. id rather hannant or gal playing prop again
October 19th 2012 @ 2:24pm
matthewthorpe said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:24pm | Report comment
but thurston and smith are still they players they are
October 28th 2012 @ 9:45pm
Ra said | October 28th 2012 @ 9:45pm | Report comment
i think kiwis are saying, you cant beat us on your own buster, neither can the blues, and we aint scared to take you both on at the same time – so we do, and without all the bonding time you have to yourselves too – you shoud be ashamed of yourself coming on here and gloating. You only play one team, and you need Kiwis and PI’s to do that – go away, and dont pipe up again until you’re ready to take on the Black n Whites – and all by yourselves too, without our bro’s
October 19th 2012 @ 8:56am
jamesb said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:56am | Report comment
those storm players are slowly getting older. JT the same.
are they still hungry?
Remember only one point separates the two states.
October 19th 2012 @ 9:18am
Media Beatup said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:18am | Report comment
And 7 straight series.
October 19th 2012 @ 4:13pm
Jamesb said | October 19th 2012 @ 4:13pm | Report comment
Only referring to the 2012 series
October 19th 2012 @ 8:59am
Mals said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:59am | Report comment
As long as Mitchell Pearce is the Blues no.7 sadly I cannot see the Blues winning a SOO series.
If Daley can be an effective “man manager” he will be fine as the Blues coach. Daley can have a technical (assistant) coach to help fill knowledge gaps much like Meninga has done with Hagan.
October 19th 2012 @ 9:10am
steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:10am | Report comment
Mals i really can’t see Pearce being their next year !!
October 19th 2012 @ 10:38am
Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:38am | Report comment
Who will be halfback then? Picking Pearce in the first place would have been a waste of time. Give them another shot.
October 19th 2012 @ 12:15pm
steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:15pm | Report comment
i would give that young Renolds from Souths a go .
October 19th 2012 @ 12:36pm
Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:36pm | Report comment
Lets see how he goes in Year 2 first.
October 20th 2012 @ 12:10pm
Stanley Bridge said | October 20th 2012 @ 12:10pm | Report comment
I wish you were a selector. Pearce is way out of his depth in Origin. Losing Pearce won’t affect the Blues negatively, while excluding Reynolds from the Blues will eg Bunnies finals loss.
Alfie, Ikin, Fittler, Slater, Inglis, Hancock were all thrown in early to the Origin arena so that is not an excuse for Reynolds non-selection. People who think Pearce is the only option aren’t really looking for other options.
October 19th 2012 @ 1:49pm
db swannie said | October 19th 2012 @ 1:49pm | Report comment
Curtis ,how many chances do you want to give him?.
Pearce is the most overated 7 in the game,& NSW have no hope with him at HB.
Three day old road kill has more creativity.,Yet LD will pick him..
As a QLDER ,please do.
& Uate is a liability.Great in attack ,but defensively is hopeless reading play.
He might score a try,but will let in Two.
October 19th 2012 @ 2:26pm
matthewthorpe said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:26pm | Report comment
i thought pearce was roosters best player towards end of the season, definitely stepped up after the origin series. id keep him and give the two reynolds another year to prove themselves. plus combination with carney is important
October 19th 2012 @ 4:57pm
Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 4:57pm | Report comment
One more series for Pearce
October 20th 2012 @ 2:14pm
ceboss said | October 20th 2012 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
Hohw the hell you would like to see pearce given another year i will never know, he bring absolutely nothing to the team and our structure always falls apart when things arent going right. Just about everyone from NSW has been dropped from there positions in a bid to figure out what will work in the last few years apart from Pearce. Its always been him, and as long as he is in the team we are stuffed cause he is in the most important position and you can see the same thing with the attacking structure falling apart with Roosters.
October 19th 2012 @ 9:13am
eagleJack said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:13am | Report comment
I think it’s only fair that for next year’s series we give QLD Pearce and we take Thurston.
October 19th 2012 @ 9:01am
Tigranes said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Maybe the best hope for NSW is to wait for Thurston, Smith, Cronk, Slater and Inglis to retire…
October 19th 2012 @ 9:59am
Dayer said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
Sorry NSW boys … no hope next year. Maybe the following year when the maroons get sick of winning.
Winning by a point or by 100 points is irrelevant because the bottom line is, it’s still winning.
Last year was last year, it is history so next year is the future and I hate to say it but it’s EIGHT “ball” for the Mighty MAROONS.
gOOD LUCK nsw
October 19th 2012 @ 12:26pm
steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:26pm | Report comment
And if we do win what will you say then oh but we have won 7 in a row . Dayer your right about one thing last year is over and next is a whole new ball game , don’t count your chickens before they hatch .
October 19th 2012 @ 2:38pm
Not Inerterested said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:38pm | Report comment
“don’t count your chickens before they hatch”
Like NSW did before the thrid game this year?
October 19th 2012 @ 7:04pm
Dayer said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:04pm | Report comment
“And if we do win what will you say then oh but we have won 7 in a row”
No I wont make excuses, I will write down ” About bloody Time’ and also blame the refferees like the NSW media does. LOL
October 19th 2012 @ 10:25am
Matty J said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:25am | Report comment
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. – Albert Einstein
Remember this 2012 Queensland team was without Locky for the first time, they were ripe for the picking, No Jharal Yow Yeh, games missed by Sammy Thaiday, Billy Slater and Ashley Harrison. If NSW were going to steal a series, this was the best opportunity they have had for a while.
Now with a new coach, a halfs pairing of Pearce and Carney and throw in another two 2nd rower (the one place where NSW has an advantage) it’s going to magically change the outcome of the past 7 years? is that your argument?
How many NSW players are automatic selections? Gallen, Tamou, Hayne and maybe Farah and the Morris twins. Every other player is playing with knowledge that one bad performance means they have no chance to redeem themselves, even the coach is in the same boat.
October 19th 2012 @ 10:41am
planko said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:41am | Report comment
I think you might have to get over Yow Yeh at best he will doing Alfie’s job…
October 19th 2012 @ 12:43pm
Matty J said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:43pm | Report comment
yea, it was a horrendous injury, but i’d back the kid to get back to where he once was, both feet pointing in the right direction is a good start.
October 19th 2012 @ 10:59am
GCTiger said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:59am | Report comment
If Daley can teach them such inccitful thing as he says on telly.
“If you can keep the ball and score you will win the game”
“The team who scores the most points will win this game”
“The game can be won by the team who can control the ball the best”
Not sure if these stats are right but. Country coach 3 losses, 2 wins. Allstars 1 Loss. Doesn’t realy inspire.
In saying that, every dog has his day and NSW are due.
October 19th 2012 @ 1:46pm
oikee said | October 19th 2012 @ 1:46pm | Report comment
October 19th 2012 @ 3:13pm
Arthur Fonzarelli said | October 19th 2012 @ 3:13pm | Report comment
“The great thing about this Melbourne Storm side is that everybody knows their role”.
If I had a dollar for every time I have heard L.Daley say that on TV I could buy Cunningham’s hardware store.
October 19th 2012 @ 11:11am
Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:11am | Report comment
Dugan, Hayne, J Morris, Jennings/Lawrence, B Morris/Uate, Carney, Pearce, Tamou, Farah, Woods, Lewis, Hoffman, Gallen. Bench: Williams, Bird, Grant, Gidley.
Do not tell me that side cant beat Queensland guys.
October 19th 2012 @ 12:29pm
GCTiger said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
Don’t know about “Can’t” but they won’t with Pearce at half back. Dugan can never last 6 rounds so won’t play a whole series. And unfortunately I think Gallen might be running out of steam in the next couple of years. A great work horse can only take so much. Rember the last 9 rounds of last year.
October 19th 2012 @ 12:35pm
Matty J said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
Yea, they could beat Queensland, 40/60 or maybe 50/50 chance. but my point is that a good team takes time, if this team doesn’t win in the first game they play together it won’t be the same team for the next game, NSW is going to chop and change until they find that magic combination, it’s done in the hopes of making the team better, but it’s to the detriment of the team.
October 19th 2012 @ 12:41pm
damoinaus said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:41pm | Report comment
we have an absolute embarrassment of riches in the back row – absolutely top shelf…Ricky was onto something with his “foot speed” strategy in 2011, and I think if Daley builds on what has been left behind, we’re in with a shot.
Even our prop stocks are looking very respectable, and the Morris brothers showed in Game 3 that they are world class in the back line.
The only place that NSW falls down is in the halves. IMHO, Daley should take a risk and throw one or both of the Reynolds boys in there. They are genuine organisers who will be much better off with their finals’ experiences last season.
October 19th 2012 @ 2:28pm
matthewthorpe said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:28pm | Report comment
neither stewart in the team? i still think brett stewart is the best fullback in nsw, but its a damn good looking team.
October 19th 2012 @ 6:35pm
Blazza said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:35pm | Report comment
Slater,Boyd,GI,Hodges,Tate,JT,Cronk,Scott,Smith,Hannant,Myles,Thaiday,Parker
,Barba,McGuire,Shillington,Teo.
Tell me how that team gets beaten ?
October 28th 2012 @ 9:54pm
Ra said | October 28th 2012 @ 9:54pm | Report comment
simple – put 13 kiwis against em
October 20th 2012 @ 12:17pm
Stanley Bridge said | October 20th 2012 @ 12:17pm | Report comment
The term “guru” just means you are an avid poster to this site right? You are not actually a guru.
Including Lawrence, Pearce and Gidley in your team confirms that.
October 20th 2012 @ 3:33pm
Curtis Woodward said | October 20th 2012 @ 3:33pm | Report comment
Roar Guru, Live Blogger, articles at copious amounts of other media outlets, Head Writer/Content Manager for another website and host of two sports programmes on 2GLF 89.3 says I’ve got you covered
October 20th 2012 @ 6:01pm
betts said | October 20th 2012 @ 6:01pm | Report comment
Fire up Woodward!
October 29th 2012 @ 9:40pm
Ra said | October 29th 2012 @ 9:40pm | Report comment
you gotta grow up n get a life woody, you’re having far too much fun !!!
October 19th 2012 @ 11:43am
Nostradamus said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:43am | Report comment
Daley as coach – fair dinkum – do you think he would get a f/t coaching job in the real world…
October 19th 2012 @ 11:59am
Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:59am | Report comment
Daley isnt doing this by himself. Delegation and man management are more important aspects for an Origin coach. Do you think Meninga is the soul reason Queensland have won 7 in a row? Please.
October 19th 2012 @ 12:32pm
steve b said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:32pm | Report comment
Well what world do you live in !
October 19th 2012 @ 12:37pm
Curtis Woodward said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:37pm | Report comment
So Meninga has done it by himself and has had no help from Neil Henry or Michael Hagan?
October 19th 2012 @ 12:47pm
damoinaus said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
The players that come into Origin are already the best of the best. They don’t need “coaching” per se.
They need to be inspired and work as a unit. They need to live and breathe Origin for those few weeks in camp, and truly aspire to earn Blue jerseys when they’re playing for their clubs – no auto-selections or favouritism, everything should be awarded on merit (think Kurt Gidley).
We don’t know what Daley is capable of. He could be a master strategist. He could be a real leader of men. He could be a wonderful delegator. All unknown, we’ll find out as the months unfold.