SPIRO: Wallabies need to play big to match big talk
By Spiro Zavos, 19 Oct 2012 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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What a difference a year makes. A Wallabies win over the All Blacks at Brisbane in 2011 had the experts proclaiming that the team was on course to win the 2011 RWC tournament.
Everyone was thrilled with the coach Robbie Deans, the new captain James Horwill and the play of Will Genia, David Pocock, Quade Cooper and James O’Connor.
A year later, the Wallabies are facing an All Blacks side that won the World Cup and has remained unbeaten ever since. If (when as far as complacent New Zealand rugby writers are concerned) they win the Test the All Blacks will equal the record for a top tier nation of 17 consecutive Tests wins.
Hardly anyone is thrilled with Deans or Cooper. And Horwill, Cooper, Genia, Pocock, O’Connor and Digby Ioane (a star of the 2011 RWC tournament) are out with injuries.
Gregor Paul, writing for the NZ Herald, has proclaimed: ‘This is not a Wallaby side to fear. This is not a Wallaby side that has the firepower out wide or collective clout in the forwards to get even close to the All Blacks.’
The 16 Test consecutive wins record was set by an terrific All Blacks side in the 1960s and an equally special Springboks side, coached by Nick Mallett, in the late 1990s. And the current All Blacks are, according to Richie McCaw, are the best All Blacks side he has been involved with.
The side deserves all the plaudits it receives. But the stuff written by Paul does a disservice to a side, the Wallabies, that came second in The Rugby Championship (despite all the injuries, including Digby Ioane for this week) and remains number 2 in the IRB World Rankings. The Wallabies are certainly down. But they are hardly out.
Pendants point to the real record of successive Test victories by Lithuania at 18. But we are talking about top tier rugby nations and consecutive Tests wins here.
There are a couple of other statistics that have some relevance to Saturday’s night Test which plays at 8 o’clock Queensland time at Suncorp Stadium and 9 o’clock in NSW (the difference is the lack of daylight savings in Queensland).
Since 1903 the Wallabies and the All Blacks have played (on the NZ records which don’t include the Waratahs of the 1920s when there was no Queensland Rugby Union) 145 times. The Wallabies have won 41 times, the All Blacks 99 and there have been 5 draws. A victory by the All Blacks, therefore, could give them a century of Test wins against Australia.
But since the Eden Park Test in 1978, which was won by the Wallabies against all the odds, the Wallabies have changed the ratio of wins and losses from 1 in 5 Tests to 1 in 3. This was a crucial Test for the Wallabies. And it was won under circumstances that have many resonances to the Test at Suncorp Stadium.
Tony Shaw, who was inducted into the Wallaby Hall of Fame on Wednesday, was captain of that 1978 Wallaby side. The coach Darryl Haberecht was in hospital suffering from a heart attack. Many senior players were out injured. New players were rushed in, including an 18 year-old Tony Melrose who played brilliantly. Greg Cornelsen scored four tries. Ken Wright cut the All Blacks to ribbons time after time. And the Wallabies won a famous victory 30 – 16.
What this victory meant was that there isn’t, or never should be, a Test that the Wallabies have no hope of winning. Or at least, there should never be a Test, even against a great All Blacks side (the 1978 All Blacks went on to win New Zealand’s first rugby grand slam in the UK), that is not considered winnable by the Wallabies.
Tony Shaw said at the Wallaby Hall of Fame ceremony that the Wallabies have to take the All Blacks on upfront on Saturday night. The burly centre Geoff Shaw, the other inductee, said, ‘there’s no point worrying about injuries. We just woke up on the morning of that Test and said we were going to go hard up front.’
The SMH’s Georgina Robinson has quoted the Wallabies assistant Nick Scrivener as saying that the All Blacks are ‘vulnerable’ on Saturday night: ‘We definitely have identified areas where we think we can go and play with pressure and those points are going to be very important. Where we apply that pressure we’ve just got to play well.’
The point here is that most teams this year have tried to play the All Blacks in a way that restricts the extent of their defeat. I call this playing not to lose badly. The problem with this mindset is that it might keep the score down a bit (but not always) but, more importantly it does not force the All Blacks to play desperate rugby.
It also is a tactic that can only really work if the conditions make it difficult for the All Blacks to play their traditional dashing all-court (a tennis metaphor used in a rugby context) game.
Ireland ran the All Blacks close in their second Test at Christchurch on a windy, cold and wet night. Dan Carter had to drop kick a field goal to clinch a victory for the All Blacks in the last minutes of the Test. But a week later at Hamilton, on a perfect field and great conditions for running rugby, the All Blacks blitzed 60 points to nil against Ireland.
The same story applied to the Pumas who held the All Blacks in terrible conditions at Wellington to a scrambling defeat. But at La Plata the All Blacks ran in 7 tries in good conditions.
Suncorp Stadium is one of the best rugby venues in the world. It is perfect, with its lovely smooth surface, for running rugby. The stands are close to the field so that the fans can make their voices heard. If the Wallabies dare to be great against the All Blacks, as they have promised, then we will be in for a memorable contest.
The odds, obviously, are on an All Blacks victory. The addition of Aaron Smith at halfback with his sharp passing that reminds me of John Hipwell (and there can be no higher praise) has given a new dimension to the All Blacks they couldn’t aspire to with journeymen Jimmie Cowan and Andy Ellis playing in this vital position.
Smith is the best All Blacks halfback, in my opinion, since Graeme Bachop and probably already is better than Bachop. Smith’s extra-quick clearances allow the All Blacks to play a high-octane style that makes it difficult for oppositions to keep up with them. When they are on a roll, as they were against the Springboks at Soweto in the second half even the best of defensive sides struggle to try and contain them.
But taking the game to the All Blacks, especially at Suncorp Stadium, gives the Wallabies their best shot of pulling off a victory for the ages.
Why especially at Suncorp Stadium? If you want to play assertive, attacking rugby, this is the ground to do it on. Last year the Wallabies blasted the All Blacks off the field at Suncorp Stadium with Radike Samo running amok in the first half. This victory ended a 15 Test run of victories by the All Blacks, which had started after their defeat by the Wallabies at Hong Kong in 2010.
This win reminds us that all winning sequences end, sooner or later. But if it is to be sooner for the Wallabies they have to match their big talk about what they are going to do to the All Black with a big game that matches the brave words. All easier said than done, though.
Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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October 19th 2012 @ 3:09am
Johnno said | October 19th 2012 @ 3:09am | Report comment
The Wallabies will take a lot of confidence from Rosario. Wallabies always like all teams are better on home turf. This won’t be a cricket score i don’t think. But the AB’S I tip to win. It will be interesting what type of game Craig Joubert has. I hope he let’s the game flow, and not the massive amount of penalties he gave in Rosario, and i hope he just lets the game flow and allow the teams to play rugby.
Steve Hansen’s dad passed away this week. He was his dad was rugby coach in Canterbury in his day and was a real rugby man.
He impacted on a lot of the canterbury players ini the team who knew Des. And Steve Hansen will be in Brisbane. And in typical laconic just get on with it style like the wallabies of 78″ Steve Hansen said. There was no way never I was going to miss this game. Dad would shoot me if I did”. A good just get on with it attitude that the Wallabies manager in 78 Ross Turnball said that is what got them the victory against all odd and helped them in later lifes challenges just get on with it. And Steve Hansen seems to be off the same mould doesn’t panic just ets on with it. Why he is a good coach, had a good role model dad too.
I think this being the type of personality steve hansen is, and as many AB’S new his dad Des I think this will actually lift the AB’S too play well and just ge ton with it they wont be too sombre, as Steve said his “did would never let him miss the match , he would shoot him if he did”. Classic Steve Hansen laconic no nonsense roll your sleeves up dry humour.
And isn’t Steve Hansen’s a spitting image of his Dad Des Hansen
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/all-blacks-coachs-father-dies-20121016-27nvm.html
R.I.P. Des Hansen . AB’S by 10-15 I think Ben Alexander’s work and running game will hurt them. But slipper has done okay and Kepu will be fresh as will big Cliffy Palu. And the AB’S will be motivated for multiple reasons, and 1 of this big reasons is not just Steve Hansen’s dad’s passing, but also wanting to make a good impression for there new big sponsor deal with AIG.
AB’S by 10-15 points.
October 19th 2012 @ 7:16am
Atawhai Drive said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:16am | Report comment
Johnno, do you get up ridiculously early, or stay up all night?
October 19th 2012 @ 9:18am
sheek said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:18am | Report comment
I was thinking the same. Johnno is either first or second responder on so many posts.
October 19th 2012 @ 9:47am
peterlala said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:47am | Report comment
Johnno, you are right. Steve Hansen is a spitting image of his dad Des Hansen RIP. Love the fact that Steve H said his father would shoot him if he missed the Test.
October 19th 2012 @ 11:29am
Harryonthecoast said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:29am | Report comment
Maybe that’ the reason for the apalling grammar!
October 19th 2012 @ 1:57pm
Sage said | October 19th 2012 @ 1:57pm | Report comment
Up all night Atawhai. Johnno’s actually a vampire to those that weren’t aware. His first language is Transylvanian which explains a lot of his posts
October 19th 2012 @ 3:49am
HardData said | October 19th 2012 @ 3:49am | Report comment
For all the usual doom and gloom merchants, there actually are genuine factors in the Wallabies favour, for the upcoming and final Bledisloe match of the year.
The All Blacks will fly to Brisbane on Thursday having trained this week in Christchurch, in as low as 8deg temperature’s, even though the actual game will be played in 18-28deg heat!
Kick Off will be at 11pm NZ time!
If it wasn’t for (Coach) Steve’s personal situation, the All Blacks would never have considered a couple of days, as suitable acclimatization, to such temperature/time extremes, for a game they are actually motivated to win.
Proof that family does actually come first, in this All Black organisation at least.
Expect more than one, surprisingly lethargic performance, physically from certain All Blacks.
Totally understand why the All Black management/senior players have softened their preparation, but also are slightly surprised, that many so called experts, have not yet noticed, nor reported/commentated the actual facts relating to this week’s All Black preparation.
In saying this, who could predict anything, but a comfortable to extreme win for the team in Black.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:42am
Team Taniwha said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:42am | Report comment
It was planned monthes ago that they would fly over on Thursday, had absolutely nothing to do with Hansons situation. They did they same before the first bledisloe test in Sydney. The move away from coming earlier was because AB management felt that the win ratio in period 2008-2011, and felt this contributed to that. Best you do your research before making such assertions.
October 19th 2012 @ 9:50am
peterlala said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:50am | Report comment
Team Taniwha, you are doing it again, using facts to back up your argument. Please desist.
October 19th 2012 @ 5:08pm
Kuruki said | October 19th 2012 @ 5:08pm | Report comment
These players travel the Tasman so often it’s not even an issue.
October 19th 2012 @ 6:12am
Jerry said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:12am | Report comment
“Last year the Wallabies blasted the All Blacks off the field at Suncorp Stadium with Radike Samo running amok in the first half. This victory ended a 15 Test run of victories by the All Blacks, which had started after their defeat by the Wallabies at Hong Kong in 2010.”
No, it didn’t.
Firstly, the AB’s lost their previous test (to the Boks in Port Elizabeth).
Secondly, prior to that match, they hadn’t won 15 straight. Think about it – the 2010 loss was on the end of season tour. They then won a GS (4 matches) but do you honestly think they played 11 tests in 2011 before the RWC?
You’re thinking of the Hong Kong loss which did break a 15 match winning streak.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:33am
jameswm said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:33am | Report comment
Thanks Jerry otherwise the ABs would have lost one of their last 32 tests.
October 19th 2012 @ 11:56am
moaman said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:56am | Report comment
In fact they have lost 3 from 41 since losing 29-32 to the ‘Boks at Hamilton,September 2009. Hong Kong (after 15 on the trot) then P.E and Brisbane in consecutive games….before commnecing the current streak.
October 19th 2012 @ 2:14pm
Sage said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
And I don’t remember them being “blasted off the field” either. It was an awesome start by the WB’s that I’ll never forget but they did get pegged back. How can a tied scoreline at one stage be a blasting Spiro ? There was some confidence after that win heading into the WC but experts claiming we were on course to win it ? Your comments on certain players and Robbie at the time are pretty close to the bone though. Can we (you) please stop with this “WB’s talking themselves up” angle too. I haven’t heard any of them doing that and for obvious reasons – just a few in the media who should know better. I agree about Suncorp but I may be biased. It is a fantastic arena for Rugby, especially a Bledisloe, apart fom all the bloody Kiwi’s in the crowd booing
And Spiro, it is shown at 9pm in Sydaney because the difference is the addition of daylight saving down there, not a lack up here. Business as usual up this way.
If Moa is reading this – as a carry on from a discussion last week, my Kiwi mate has offered 10 start. No wonder we love our cousies so much.
October 19th 2012 @ 3:45pm
moaman said | October 19th 2012 @ 3:45pm | Report comment
And Moa IS reading this….and smiling!
I think your kiwi mate is pretty shrewd.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:45pm
stillmatic1 said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:45pm | Report comment
if the wallas are winning i will be more than booing, sage! probably get escorted off the premises. if you are at the game and within earshot all i can say is “im sorry”. get it in early……
October 19th 2012 @ 11:40pm
Sage said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:40pm | Report comment
Can’t get to this one mate but I’ll be glued to the screen. Enjoy the atmosphere and good luck (probably didn’t sound genuine did it). Go the Wallabies.
October 19th 2012 @ 6:16am
mania said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:16am | Report comment
the reson AB’s have been so dominant over the wb’s these past few years is because they never underestimate them. its the media that belittles and puts down the wb’s. AB’s have too much respect to ever write the wb’s off. memories of gregan and larkham are still too fresh in AB’s minds.
the wb’s have nothing to lose. this makes them very dangerous. reading Mils book and they prefer it when the aussie talk themselves up because they’re cocky and vulnerable. wb’s arent talking themselves up.
aaronSmith is no where near what bachop was, yet. at this stage smith lacks experience, authority, cunning and lightning decision making. bachop was also the fittest AB’s in his time and ran around all day. smiths a little bit slower imo
but it will come if aSmith stays in this environment, he will be one of the great HB’s
October 19th 2012 @ 7:22am
mace 22 said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:22am | Report comment
Also I think the wallaby celebrations on their wins have something to do with it. Not that I’m criticising them for the way acted, after such a long run of defeats I don’t blame them. But to see them jumping around like they had just won the bledisloe or world cup would’ve stuck in the back of the all black minds. So I think the all blacks won’t be in to much of a hurry to experience that again. . I disagree smith is at most rucks before the national anthems have been sung. But seriously the game is played at a pace that the all blacks of twenty years ago wouldn’t have imagined in their wildest dreams. So no IMO bachop is not faster than smith.
October 19th 2012 @ 7:47am
mania said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:47am | Report comment
smith is faster in a sprint, but bachop seemed to to be taking his time but was at every ruck
October 19th 2012 @ 9:22am
Riccardo said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:22am | Report comment
I agree Mania.
Smith’s contribution to Hansen’s pacy gameplan cannot be underestimated but Bachop’s composure and “directing”, he does not yet possess.
Like Mace though I am convinced he will achieve this attribute as he gains experience. He has already made steps in this regard, particularly with his kcking game.
I would NEVER write off the Wallabies. But as their injury crisis deepens I find myself resonating with AAC’s comments regarding the lack of established combinations which are essential at this level, particularly if you want to throw the All Blacks off their game.
October 19th 2012 @ 9:29am
mania said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:29am | Report comment
riccardo – i dont doubt that aSmith will get there one day espeially if he stays in the current environment. in this team there is no way that he couldnt get better.
agree bachop seemed so much more in control. even when fox seemed in charge bachop was still an authority.
when bachop played for japan you could see the way he commanded his forwards.
aSmith will one day have this generalship but he’s got a long way to go to completely fill bachops boots.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:14pm
Chivas said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:14pm | Report comment
I agree, Bach was huge. I watched him in his first trial game for the AB’s. People used to complain that he wasn’t a consistent passer.
In the game he picks the ball up with the opposition conning at him he falls backwards to the ground while he spirals a huge bullet pass out to Fox who stood miles away. He then went from strength to strength. I was quite young when syd and trapper played. They are legends and rightly so, specially trapper, but inthe 80′s to now I don’t think there has been a better AB halfback than Bachop.
October 19th 2012 @ 6:23am
The Grafter said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:23am | Report comment
I to was surprised they didnt fly in until last night with the climate difference.
I thought about it yesterday how many of the current Wallabies would make the NZ squad. With Ioane out, I would think
none.
Im into the All Blacks BIG at 13 plus ($1.90).
October 19th 2012 @ 6:35am
nickoldschool said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:35am | Report comment
It does makes sense Grafter…thing is, wallabies at $6.75 at suncorp are very tempting!!! I dont recall any such odds ever. When i look at the 2 sides, i dont see that happening (them beating the ABs) but reckon they are still a chance. Friday dilemma all right
October 19th 2012 @ 7:25am
mace 22 said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:25am | Report comment
Who would ioane replace in the all blacks. Jane no, gear no, savea well on experience only but on form no.
October 19th 2012 @ 7:48am
Red Kev said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:48am | Report comment
If I were selecting a side Ioane would keep Gear out. Both are similar players, and this year Gear is in better form, but as an accomplished winger Ioane is superior having a much higher off the ball work rate. I think a lot of coaches would agree with that assessment too.
October 19th 2012 @ 10:48am
Rugby Tragic said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:48am | Report comment
RK, fair assessment, though Jane, would be first choice winger in my side of those playing now, not the fastest, but fast enough and certainly strong enough. A great finisher yet defends well and defuses high kicks sent his way with aplomb even against bigger opponents and ‘that fend’ – that is something else.
Ioane, I have always rated, though this year he has done much more lateral running than previous (maybe due the quality of the ball he is receiving) and his ball security is not as good as it has been. While Gear has taken his fewer opportunities this year, I think Ioane edges him out due to stellar performances of the past.. If not only talking about the AB’s and Wallabies I also rate J P Pietersen (even the veteran Habana played found his form back for the RC).
October 19th 2012 @ 10:55am
mania said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
to be fair to ioane, he hasnt been used much as a winger this season. instead of finishing he’s been asked to be the primary ball carrier and a lot of times is the 1st reciever trying to get it over the adv line.
jane would def be my 2nd choice winger.
habana though hands down would be the 1st. habana this season has shown how far passion and hunger can get you. has lost some of his acceleration and top speed but his remaining attributes + his work ethic and intelligence makes him top winger for this season.
note that when habana got no ball or wasnt able to contribute in the 2nd half in soweto was when the AB’s ran away with it
October 19th 2012 @ 2:06pm
soapit said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:06pm | Report comment
ione has been forced to go for pick and drives directly from the ruck just to get hiis hands on the ball this year. not really how you want to be using your wingers.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:49pm
SkinnyKid said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:49pm | Report comment
Really mania…Habana…? Seriously?
He’s had a handful of good games in recent memory.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:57pm
biltongbek said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:57pm | Report comment
Mania, what I find most interesting of Habana is his try scoring record.
Under Jake White he scored 30 tries in 35 tests
Under Pieter de Villiers he scored 10 tries in 39 tests
Under Heyneke Meyer he scored 7 tries in 9 tests.
So without PDV he scored 37 tries in 43 tests.
October 19th 2012 @ 9:25pm
Mania said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:25pm | Report comment
Wow skinny kid, your not impressed with habana’s workload, defence & offence?
biltongbek – I agree. The guys a machine
October 19th 2012 @ 10:52am
mace 22 said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:52am | Report comment
I agree if your talking about over their respective careers. But going over the last two games I’d give it to gear.
October 19th 2012 @ 11:22am
winston said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:22am | Report comment
all black wings can’t have a drop in form now days, a couple of off games they are gone. Rufi Wolf, Zac Guilford, Rene Ranger the list goes on. Past accomplishments mean little in this squad.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:05pm
Jerry said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:05pm | Report comment
Yeah, I’d rate Ioane over Gear or Savea all things being equal. He’s got better fundamental skills than them and is just as dangerous ball in hand.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:43pm
Ben.S said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:43pm | Report comment
What do you mean by fundamental skills, Jerry?
October 19th 2012 @ 11:15pm
allblackfan said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:15pm | Report comment
I’d give it to Gear (but that’s just me).
One thing I noticed about Digby; once the ball carrier runs past him, he can’t run the man down and tackle from behind.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:20am
Sam Taulelei said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:20am | Report comment
To all querying the All Blacks late arrival in Australia.
This is a deliberate change of planning that Hansen announced ahead of the RC, they did the same thing before Bledisloe 1 in Sydney. Leaving NZ on August 16.
All NZ super teams travel across the tasman only two days before their match and Hansen believed it will assist in their preparation to do the same.
October 19th 2012 @ 10:11am
The Grafter said | October 19th 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
Mid October is a little different to August Sam.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:51pm
SkinnyKid said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:51pm | Report comment
um… aren’t we all making way too much out of this?
They change climate and location every other week.
October 19th 2012 @ 6:58am
Hold onto the damn ball said | October 19th 2012 @ 6:58am | Report comment
Plain and simple. If the Wallabies can hold onto the ball and not lose or give away possesion for long phases, then they have a show of upseting the ‘Black Machine’. They need to play with total agression and play out of their skins for 80 minutes.
October 19th 2012 @ 7:00am
Coxinator said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:00am | Report comment
Ahem, Spiro Queensland doesn’t have daylight saving and that’s why we in NSW are an hour later by the clock.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:48am
Spiro Zavos said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:48am | Report comment
I should have remembered this as I used to write plenty of editorials in the SMH dishing the Queensland argument that daylight saving faded the curtains. Thanks for the correction.
October 19th 2012 @ 9:34am
Lazza said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:34am | Report comment
This comment got my passion going mr zavos, regarding daylight savings. I’m a qld’r ex kiwi and cannot believe this idiotic stance we have up here against daylight savings. Mr David Beattie went on about having qld ergo plates with “the smart state”, knowing we have plates reading “the sunshine state”, yet we have an hour less useable sunshine than nsw, not very smart! P.s love your articles!
October 19th 2012 @ 9:56am
The Grafter said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:56am | Report comment
Whats a Qlander ex Kiwi Lazza? You handed in your passport mate
Agreed re daylight savings by the way. 4-30 sunup is a bit of a waste for sure.
October 19th 2012 @ 12:24pm
rl said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
Grafter – 4.30am sunup is perfect for a crowd-free surf or fish before work. Suggest you get a large cup of concrete in ya mate!!
October 19th 2012 @ 2:15pm
The Grafter said | October 19th 2012 @ 2:15pm | Report comment
A little bit defensive RL.
A fish before work? What time do you start? You mustnt live on the G Coast mate?
October 19th 2012 @ 4:45pm
rl said | October 19th 2012 @ 4:45pm | Report comment
7.30 at my desk usually. Not the coast, usually on Moreton Bay. Depending on the tide, 4.30 gives me enough time to catch some bait, a solid hour of fishing, then home for sh..-shower-shave and off to work.
October 19th 2012 @ 7:38pm
Sage said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:38pm | Report comment
With you rl. Was going to say the same thing. SOME don’t need big brother to tell them when to get up and use that early morning time. The beach was beautiful at 5am this morning. No swell though. And it was Peter Beatie Lazza, how could you forget HIS name
October 19th 2012 @ 12:35pm
Lazza said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
Grafter…lol I guess a kwazzi
October 19th 2012 @ 12:21pm
rl said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:21pm | Report comment
Lazza… WTF is Mr David Beattie?
Got to say as a Qlder and a parent of very young kids I’m a massive fan of no daylight saving. When I had no kids, I desperately wanted it brought in, but can I tell you it’s bloody hard to get your kids to bed when its broad daylight outside! No doubt my attitude will change again as the kids get older.
Anyway, I would be a true hospitable Qlder if I didn’t give you a cheerio and say “If you don’t like it, you can always just f— off to NSW with all the other a—–” (I’ll let you fuill in the blanks)
October 20th 2012 @ 7:31am
Justin2 said | October 20th 2012 @ 7:31am | Report comment
Yet the kids somehow get to sleep in Vic. Go figure
October 20th 2012 @ 9:43pm
Lazza said | October 20th 2012 @ 9:43pm | Report comment
Rl, stop being a punk…pretty cowardly swearing at me over the Internet ya tin pot tyrant! Dirty like higginbotham, cheating f&$k! Read between the lines lol
October 19th 2012 @ 12:25pm
rl said | October 19th 2012 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
Bugger the curtains Spiro – we’re more worried about how the cows will know when to come in for milking!!
October 19th 2012 @ 7:03am
Fog said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:03am | Report comment
Gee, if Ellis and Cowan are journeymen what does that make the Aussie halfbacks of the last few years, all of whom were outplayed by said journeymen? I thought Will Genia was an Australian – if not world – immortal already? And, the mystery of the missing Piri Weepu in Spiro’s articles arises yet again. Apparently the starting halfback for the ABs for the last couple of seasons did not exist or perhaps, given his stellar record against Oz, he cannot, like Lord Voldemort, be named? Other than that, yes Aaron Smith has been a great find for the Blacks this year, allowing them to play a slightly different and highly successful style. In the previous four years the Blacks played a two halfback game, subbing the starter relatively early. Weepu particularly was used to lift the tempo of a game, stimulate any flagging AB efforts and take it away from the opposition. The two halfback approach was used particularly well in the semi and final of the WC when the halfbacks – in the absence of Carter – had to be the key playmakers. Smith’s energy has generally allowed the Blacks this season to take the game away from the opposition before the final quarter. Where it has not, Ireland and the first Puma’s test, the second halfback has played a vital role in managing the run home. Sometimes and especially when it comes to halfbacks,I think you look too much at style, Spiro, and not at the substance. I am looking forward to an All Black game based on three halfbacks – Smith, Kerr-Barlow and Perenara. That should be fun!
October 19th 2012 @ 7:06am
Red Block said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:06am | Report comment
‘We definitely have identified areas where we think we can go and play with pressure and those points are going to be very important. ‘
As long as this doesn’t involve doing grubber kicks out of our 22 and not kicking the ball straight to their back three to mount raid upon raid.
If the WBs can play out of their skins with a game plan that involves confronting the ABs with ball in hand. Then the WBs could record their most famous victory since 1978.
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October 19th 2012 @ 7:39am
mace 22 said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:39am | Report comment
I’ve read alot about this confronting the all blacks with ball in hand game plan. Isn’t that what the springboks tried to do ( also they had a rediculous advantage in penalties ) and still lost by 16. They have to try and figure something else out that hasn’t been tried for eighty minutes, such as lots of mauling and lot’s of pick and go’s then kick for territory. Hope upon hope the all blacks give away a lot of penalties. In other words play like the 2001 to 2003 england side. I think that is the only hope for the wallabies.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:36am
jameswm said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:36am | Report comment
It’s playing to your strengths. Boks might have been better at the tactics you suggested, but trhe Wallabies couldn’t play like that and win – not against the ABs, anyway. The Wallaby forwards have to really front up and we have to constantly run at them.
October 19th 2012 @ 8:41am
Jerry said | October 19th 2012 @ 8:41am | Report comment
By my reckoning they were on a 7 match streak before Port Elizabeth.
The Brisbane loss made it a 2 match losing streak, which was the equal worst streak of Henry’s AB tenure (there were 3 other times he lost 2 in a row, 04 to Aus & SA, 08 to SA & Aus again and 09 when he lost 2 on the trot in SA).
October 19th 2012 @ 9:01am
Jerry said | October 19th 2012 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Wtf? That reply was to another comment.
October 19th 2012 @ 11:01am
mace 22 said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
James I would agree abouit playing to your strengths if they had all their backline players fit. But with this untried backline I;d try to do something that hasn’t been tried against this all black team. I remember the wallabies doing the pick and drive with good success for ten minutes in auckland, but seem to revert to the kick and hope gameplan after that.
October 19th 2012 @ 1:56pm
jameswm said | October 19th 2012 @ 1:56pm | Report comment
You’ve got Beale at 10 and two centres who are or should be very close to first stringers. Two wingers who are strong ball runners, if not flyers, and fantastic defenders. No excuses.
October 19th 2012 @ 4:13pm
mace 22 said | October 19th 2012 @ 4:13pm | Report comment
But they are still untested against the all blacks. Lets say go in with both plans if one isn’t producing results then change to the other.
October 19th 2012 @ 11:22pm
bennalong said | October 19th 2012 @ 11:22pm | Report comment
I think ‘pick and goes’ is what we’ll see cause it looked good in game 1 until Roland penalised the attacking team( incorrectly IMO)
If Joubert pings the ABs ( maybe even Ritchie) and keeps them from lying over our ball (a la Argies) AND keeps them onside, we have a chance.
If Harris can stack up some penalties and Dan has one of his off nights……
Lots of ‘ifs’ BUT……It’s a game and we showed ‘em last year
October 19th 2012 @ 7:16am
Armchair Sportsfan said | October 19th 2012 @ 7:16am | Report comment
so in 1978 the wallabies won with the coach not able to make the game…..?
I would fancy our chances if that were the case this Saturday night:)