Tippett’s murky deal leads to AFL probe
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Adelaide say they will cop any penalty given to them by the AFL for their secret deal which could kill Kurt Tippett’s bid to join Sydney.
The Crows face fines and loss of draft picks, and star forward Tippett could be deregistered as an AFL player, if an investigation by the AFL finds they broke the league’s rules.
Tippett’s manager Peter Blucher also faces a possible ban for his role in a murky deal which was hidden from the AFL for three years until last Friday.
Tippett became Adelaide’s highest-paid player in 2009 when agreeing to a three-year contract extension with the club.
Since the signing, speculation has been rife of a clause which enabled Tippett to be traded at the end of the contract to the club of his choice, in return for a second-round draft pick – compensation well below the key forward’s market worth.
Crows management repeatedly denied the existence of the clause in the contract.
But the Crows admitted to the AFL last Friday they had a secret agreement, outside the contract, with Tippett.
Tippett’s contract with the Crows has expired and he has requested a trade to the premier Swans.
The move shocked Adelaide, who believed Queensland-born Tippett would likely return home if he left the club.
And with the AFL trade period ending on Friday at 2pm (AEDT), Tippett’s future hinges on the findings of the league’s investigation.
Adelaide chairman Rob Chapman said the Crows board confessed to the AFL “because it was the right thing to do”.
“There was no alternative here,” Chapman told Adelaide radio station 5AA.
“The thought not to disclose never entered our mind and (Crows chief executive) Steven (Trigg) and I made that call straight away.”
Chapman did not explain why Adelaide kept the deal a secret for three years.
“If we have stuffed up in any way, and I’m not pre-empting that, we’ll put up our hand and say sorry and remedy it and move on,” Chapman said.
“… We will take whatever comes out of it.”
Chapman declined to guarantee the position of Trigg as club chief executive.
“We will reach the right conclusions after this,” he said.
“Steven Trigg has been a veteran of this world, as has (former football operations manager) Johnny Reid, (current football operations manager) Phil Harper, everyone at our club.
“And they have got a history of complying with the rules and … I don’t want to speculate beyond that because that might prejudice the outcome of the investigation.”
The Crows, by confessing the deal, were not ensuring a lighter penalty from the AFL, he said.
“We brought it to their attention … but there is no assurances,” Chapman said.
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October 25th 2012 @ 9:16am
Richo said | October 25th 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Up there with Lehmann Brothers for dodginess.
I suppose the Swans just take a step back and watch the carnage unfold from the sidelines
October 25th 2012 @ 10:19am
Strummer Jones said | October 25th 2012 @ 10:19am | Report comment
“Up there with Lehmann (sic) Brothers for dodginess”
Yes, millions of people will lose billions in GFC Mark II if the Tippett deal falls over
I don’t think its that big. Likely every club does these brown paper bag deals, no? Based on press reports It appears Tippett threatened Adelaide with legal action and they’ve called his bluff and are now prepared to take a major hit from the AFL simply to see Tippett miss the 2013 season.
October 25th 2012 @ 9:24am
mds1970 said | October 25th 2012 @ 9:24am | Report comment
Yesterday I was thinking that the ongoing failure to secure a trade with the Swans could entice another club, maybe GWS or Gold Coast, make a late play for Tippett and put up a better offer than the Swans.
But the risk of Tippett being de-registered, small though that risk is, probably ends that.
October 25th 2012 @ 9:55am
Col said | October 25th 2012 @ 9:55am | Report comment
I thought the Swans had a “no d!ckhead” policy? If thats the case, why are they chasing this bloke???
October 25th 2012 @ 10:29am
TC said | October 25th 2012 @ 10:29am | Report comment
When a mobile 202cm player who can take a strong contested grab, and is still only 25 years old, is on the market, it is remarkable how quickly such fancy ideals are thrown out the window.
How many such players are there in the AFL? Maybe 9 or 10 tops. Meaning half the clubs, at any one time, are going without.
In those circumstances, it’s a case of principles, schminciples.
TC
October 25th 2012 @ 2:51pm
Lroy said | October 25th 2012 @ 2:51pm | Report comment
Mate.. any club would grab this guy in a heartbeat.. he is very good value for any top 6 side wanting that something extra to nail a flag…. have a look at those 4 he knocked over against the Hawks.. the guy is a very , very good player.
October 25th 2012 @ 10:32am
Matt F said | October 25th 2012 @ 10:32am | Report comment
We don’t mind taking them. We back ourselves to sort them out
October 25th 2012 @ 10:02am
Brewski said | October 25th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
Yes, IMO this trade is at tipping point, anything now could Tippett over.
And whats more, why is he Adelaides highest paid layer …What about Walker and Dangermouse.
October 25th 2012 @ 10:21am
Strummer Jones said | October 25th 2012 @ 10:21am | Report comment
Highest paid layer?
This could yet turn out to be Underbelly XII
Agree that Walker and Rodney should be the highest paid players once they renew contracts.
October 25th 2012 @ 10:35am
Brewski said | October 25th 2012 @ 10:35am | Report comment
Possibly a fruedian slip, (although i sincerely hope not) but i agree that Tex with the mullet and the dangerously good looking, and indeed porn style name of Dangerfield should be higher paid layers.
October 25th 2012 @ 10:05am
damo said | October 25th 2012 @ 10:05am | Report comment
Some one help me out here- how exactly is this draft tampering? All they’ve done is declare to a player “we’ll trade you and this is the price we’ll ask for.” the implication being if we don’t get the asking price your stuffed. i really don’t see the issue- what am i missing?
October 25th 2012 @ 10:25am
TC said | October 25th 2012 @ 10:25am | Report comment
Generally speaking, a player cannot pick and choose the club they want to go to.
If their current club cannot make a deal (with any club), the player goes into the draft (that is, if the length of service is less than when the free agency rules kick in).
If Tippett and Adelaide had some sort of agreement whereby they could only negotiate with Tippett’s choice of club, then that is probably pushing the rules.
TC
October 25th 2012 @ 11:00am
Matt F said | October 25th 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
I’m not 100% sure how its “draft tampering” but it’s a clear breach of AFL contract rules. Basically Adelaide used this clause (which they’re not allowed to use) in order to get Tippett to re-sign with them back in 2009, which he did. Because the AFL doesn’t allow these kinds of clauses, both parties kept it hidden from the AFL. All players and clubs have to sign stat decs with the AFL as well, basically saying that the contract is above board and there are no extra payments/clauses that they haven’t put in the contract. If it’s shown that Adelaide and Tippett have signed false stat decs then they’re both in massive trouble.
There’s also new information that Adelaide paid for Kurt’s brother to live in Adelaide to try and keep Kurt in Adelaide, which is also against AFL rules and could be a salary cap breach.
I suppose it could be considered similar to the Veale deal back in 2003 where the Bulldogs gave the Hawks pick 6 for Laclan Veale on the condition that the Hawks let Jade Rawlings go to the pre-season draft instead of trading him to North.
October 25th 2012 @ 11:22am
Pope Paul VII said | October 25th 2012 @ 11:22am | Report comment
Hey yeah I forgot about that. Up yours bulldogs and Hawthorn.
October 25th 2012 @ 11:30am
Matt F said | October 25th 2012 @ 11:30am | Report comment
Yeah that trade was a debacle for everybody. Rawlings turned out to be useless, the Hawks traded pick 6 to Essendon for Danny Jacobs who didn’t do much for them while Essendon used that pick to draft Kepler bradley who was useless for them! Maybe karma does exist…..
October 25th 2012 @ 11:11am
Pope Paul VII said | October 25th 2012 @ 11:11am | Report comment
You are right no doubt TC but the high value players usually get accommodated. Tippett’s manager is more accountable for this dopey piece of paper.
I hate trade week, I always hope North are going to pick up the a superstar or even a slightly tarnished one but it never happens.
What’s doing with Jesse White? He’d be handy somewhere, sadly not NM because they’ve got a few tallies hoping about but some of those other mid to low tier battler clubs could surely make a folk hero out of him?
October 25th 2012 @ 11:44am
Strummer Jones said | October 25th 2012 @ 11:44am | Report comment
He was given a fair few chances at the Swans but failed to ‘consistently’ fire. That is, had a couple of good games, but far too many MIA games. A change of club could help, but with demands of Senior Aussie Rules now being incredibly tough both mentally and physically, I don’t think he has what it takes mentally. Plenty of players fall into this category.
October 25th 2012 @ 11:58am
Pope Paul VII said | October 25th 2012 @ 11:58am | Report comment
Sadly you are probably right Strummer. And look at all that cash he wasted on tatts. Maybe he claims them on his tax?
October 25th 2012 @ 8:06pm
Strummer Jones said | October 25th 2012 @ 8:06pm | Report comment
No, he claims them on his annual Tatts Return
October 26th 2012 @ 8:46am
Pope Paul VII said | October 26th 2012 @ 8:46am | Report comment
like it, certainly should return ‘em
October 25th 2012 @ 12:29pm
Matt F said | October 25th 2012 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
He’s also on pretty good money due to his form at the end of 2009 combined with the threat of Gold Coast signing him (he’s a GC local.) Obviously he hasn’t come close to reaching the potential that he showed then. I’d say his salary would be a sticking point for other clubs. They’d probably be asking the Swans to pay a fair chunk of it as he still has a year to run on his current deal but the Swans might feel that we’d rather keep him for another year for depth reasons if we’re going to be paying for him anyway.
October 25th 2012 @ 12:47pm
Brewski said | October 25th 2012 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
Both Tippett and White come from QLD basketball, although i should rephrase that to mean, they were both in QLD basketball sides, although they played footy as well.
QLD seems to produce plenty of big guys, having been involved with state Volleyball i can vouch for QLD boys seemingly bigger than their southern counterparts, of course this could be all in the mind, but their VB teams over a period of time seem to be bigger.
October 25th 2012 @ 12:14pm
Andrew A said | October 25th 2012 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. The AFL want Sydney to remain successful and may go easy on Adelaide if they accept the Swans’ mediocre offer for Tippett. Can’t blame any player for wanting to leave Adelaide. It’s ok for a weekend there, but not much longer. Perhaps the AFL should be giving the Crows and Port an extra $1mil in their salary caps to keep players in Adelaide.
October 25th 2012 @ 12:36pm
Redb said | October 25th 2012 @ 12:36pm | Report comment
How dumb are Tippett’s lawyers
October 25th 2012 @ 2:07pm
NeeDeep said | October 25th 2012 @ 2:07pm | Report comment
Wonder if this makes any sense?
Kurt wants to go home, but the Crows took a punt when they drafted him and are reluctant to let him head back to the Gold Coast, just as he’s coming into his own. Get him to re-sign a new 3 year deal with a few proviso’s thrown in – move Joel to Adelaide, club of his choice at end of 2012, etc.
The Crows thinking pick 4 or 5 for Kurt to head back to the Gold Coast – yeah, pretty reasonable. All of a sudden he nominates Sydney, the premiers of 2012 and it’s no longer draft pick 4 or 5, but now selection 23!!!
You reckon the boys from Adelaide might have been a little pizzed off with that result! Let’s see if we can recoup a couple of dollars from someone, because we’re going to get stuck with a crappy deal and make a team we’re already locking horns with, even stronger.
Then we end up going public because somebody isn’t happy with that option. I think Tippett has snookered the Crows and he should owe them something for drafting him in the first place and giving him an opportunity. On the other hand, teh Crows tried to pull a swifty and got stung. Give both sides a stocking full of horse-dung and lock ‘em in an outhouse together – winner take all!
October 25th 2012 @ 2:48pm
Lroy said | October 25th 2012 @ 2:48pm | Report comment
Yes.. and the Kieran Jack trade was legit and above board as well.. rofl..
the kid “allegedly” loses the paperwork prior to the draft.. meaning most clubs dont know he’s available…. and then the Swans “discover it” just prior to drafting him….. WOW.. what a magical coincidence that was.
October 25th 2012 @ 2:51pm
Brewski said | October 25th 2012 @ 2:51pm | Report comment
Most clubs had their chance and did not want to touch him with a barge pole, and BTW he suits the Swans rugby style rolling maul perfectly.
Although i should not be so mean, The Swans have a great never say die attitude, and were worthy winners.
His mother has come out and said she did mail it, and it did not get there, sounded pretty sincere to me, BTW Roy Masters was all over this, as he is over plenty of other Australian Football issues .
October 25th 2012 @ 2:53pm
Lroy said | October 25th 2012 @ 2:53pm | Report comment
Maybe, my point is that most clubs didnt know he was available… so who knows if he was really “unwanted” , but good luck to the SWans for pulling it off.
October 25th 2012 @ 3:22pm
NeeDeep said | October 25th 2012 @ 3:22pm | Report comment
Not sure about Keirna Jack case. I think he’s a good fit for the Swans and I don’t recall anybody being overly interested i him at the time of the draft.
To me the biggest joke of them all was Luke Ball & Collingwood in 2009. A player of Luke Ball’s class and maturity nominates for the draft and he’s still available at pick 30, despite Melbourne having 4 picks prior to that and North, 3. That was all above board???
St. Kilda got bugger all and I think that is the lesson the Crows were looking at when they elected to try and get the deal done for Tippett.
October 25th 2012 @ 3:36pm
Andrew A said | October 25th 2012 @ 3:36pm | Report comment
Collingwood did offer St Kilda pick 30 and Wellingham for Ball who was out of favour with Ross Lyon. Ball wasn’t in St Kilda’s best 22 for many games in the second half of 2009 due to his lack of pace. He was left on the bench for the entire 2nd half of the 2009 Grand Final despite picking up 22 touches in the first half. His lack of pace and history of OP were negatives for clubs to consider. Ross Lyon stuffed up and then recruited Lovett! The Pies were able to get Ball fitter and he had two excellent seasons before hurting his knee this year.
October 25th 2012 @ 4:08pm
NeeDeep said | October 25th 2012 @ 4:08pm | Report comment
Oh – OK, so Luke saying he wanted to go to Collingwood and only Collingwood, plus the above issues meant that only Collingwood where interested in him and no other club wanted him. Terrific – thanks for clearing that up for me!
Yes – Ross Lyon made a real bright choice in picking up Andrew Lovett.
October 25th 2012 @ 4:34pm
Andrew A said | October 25th 2012 @ 4:34pm | Report comment
From memory Ball nominated a $500k p.a. salary. No other club was prepared to pay him that much or use a 1st or 2nd round pick considering his injury history and lack of pace. Collingwood took a risk and backed themselves to get a dedicated player fit and back playing regular senior footy. Other clubs weren’t prepared to take the risk. Wellingham at St Kilda could’ve helped deliver a win for the Saints in the first Grand Final in 2010. Lyon’s refusal to accept Collingwood’s offer possibly cost them a flag.
October 25th 2012 @ 4:52pm
NeeDeep said | October 25th 2012 @ 4:52pm | Report comment
Andrew – from what I’m hearing, you reckon it was all good! No skull-duggery or fixing, etc. On the other side of the coin, personally, I think something was rotten in Denmark and still do. Pick 30 – really?
And good old Ross – makes a mess of the whole thing and then ups “anchor” and sails off into the sunset. Yep – he wanted more money as well. Beware, Fremantle Football Club, you have a fair-weather sailor at the helm.
Is this where we are heading – the biggest cheque book? That means we can rule out half a dozen clubs from ever being a serious contender. Loyalty is gone – owing something to the club that gave you a start is over (Luke Ball, Ross Lyon, Kurt Tippett). If that’s the way it is going to be, then we should just forget about contracts being binding and just let players nominate each year, who they’re going to play for next year.
The good news is that Andrew Demitriou also reckons this sort of thing is all good for the game and applauded Collingwood and Luke Ball for shafting the Saints. I’m sure he will now come out and support the Swans and Kurt Tippett, once this deal is completed.
Ah, the fantasy of the even playing field!
October 26th 2012 @ 7:50am
Andrew A said | October 26th 2012 @ 7:50am | Report comment
Collingwood didn’t shaft the Saints in 2009. They offered fair compensation of pick 30 and Wellingham. In fact Wellingham was exactly the type of player St Kilda were looking for – skilful and good pace. The Saints shot themselves in the foot by not accepting. The $500k price tag probably put off several clubs and resulted in Ball going through to pick 30. Tippett is a player every club would want in their side. Good quality big men are hard to get. The Swans offer of pick 23 and White is mediocre. It’s unlikely Tippett would go through to 23 in the draft, but maybe a $1m price tag might result in that happening. Ball’s desire to leave the Saints was because he was on the outer and not in Lyon’s plans. Tippett leaving is strange. He’s a key player in a good side on the verge of challenging for a flag. He was also the highest paid player at Adelaide.
October 25th 2012 @ 5:33pm
Horatio said | October 25th 2012 @ 5:33pm | Report comment
The AFL discovered the mixup and asked other clubs whether they wanted him and they declined so he went to the Swans. However for such an important issue, I would have mailed, emailed, faxed, rung etc to make sure I was nominated and leave nothing to chance so the AFL procedures were poor and designed to fail apparently. Why wouldnt they get a receipt etc. Anyway keeps anti Swans idiots like lane and masters busy writing gossip…