A Wallaby grand slam? Don’t make me laugh
By Hugo Verne, 30 Oct 2012 The Crowd is a Roar Guru
Wallabies player Nick Phipps passes the ball. AAP Image/Dave Hunt
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A little while back, the idea the Wallabies could pull off a grand slam on their coming spring tour would have met with gusts of merriment.
But after they held the All Blacks tryless in Brisbane, the laughter was a little more restrained. Maybe, many people felt, 80 minutes of iron defence, coupled with guts and determination, could also work against France, England, Italy and Wales.
(Incidentally, few think the All Blacks will be beaten on their tour, although certain Roarers may feel England has a shot at Twickenham. Similarly, the Springboks should be able to register a mini-slam, although the same Roarers will no doubt believe England will triumph against the Saffers.)
Back to the Wallabies and their first game. France in Paris.
My French pals, tragics all who are never without a copy of L’Equipe in their back pockets, tell me French coach Philippe Saint-Andre is delighted at the prospect of playing the Wallabies. Why? Because this time la chaussure will be on the other pied. This time, France is the team that has what the Wallabies had two years ago when Les Bleus haemorrhaged 59 points – dynamic backs.
Conversely, the Wallabies now have a solid scrum, but there are only two guys on the team with serious pace, Beale and Ioane. The midfield – McCabe/Ashley-Cooper or Tapuai – lacks penetration. And two of the back three, if it’s to be Harris and Cummins, don’t make Saint-Andre’s worry list. His team, on the other hand, has talent and speed to burn.
Starting with the 9 and 10 combo, half of France thinks it should be Racing’s Maxime Machenaud – good service, a threat to run and be man of the match on several occasions – and Freddie Michalak (yes, he’s back from the Sharks and playing very well for Toulon). Meanwhile, the other half favours the old firm of Morgan Parra and Francois Trinh-Duc.
The midfield could be electric if Saint-Andre mixes and matches Memoz, Fritz, Fofana (four tries in his first four Tests), and Gael Fickou, not yet 19, who has the best grubber-and-go since Jonathan Davies.
Out wide, Saint-Andre can choose between Clerc, Huget and big flyer Benjamin Fall. At 15 there’s the young Toulon player Vincent Martin and Castre’s Brice Dulin, both of whom have all the right moves.
As for the forwards, things also look good if you’re a French fan. Props like Nicholas Mas, David Attoub and Belgian-born Vincent Debaty who’s six foot three, 122 kgs. Dimitri Szarzewski, 53 caps, will start at hooker. But we won’t be seeing another teenager, Christopher Tolofua, who’s out for dangerous play.
Nor, alas, will we see Thierry Dusautoir who has a banged-up knee. But there are excellent flankers to fill in for him, like Pierrick Gunther, Fulgence Ouedraogo – the only man from Burkina Faso to play rep rugby, and still one of the fastest breakaways in the world – and Biarritz’s Wenceslas Lauret.
In the second row, Pascal Pape, who’ll captain the side, could partner with Toulouse star Yoan Maestri, standing six foot seven and 120 kgs. Pape isn’t tall as locks go but in open play he’s a Godzilla. At 8 is Louis Picamoles, the only man on the planet who comes close to Kieran Read. Harinordoquy is hurting and won’t be fit in time.
As of writing I don’t have the injury report from the weekend’s games, but it certainly looks like the French 22, come November 10, will have 15 first class starters and a second-half bench full of young tearaways.
So will the Wallabies, after flying all the way to Europe, take the field full of fire and brimstone and win at least the first leg of the grand slam? Or will 22 revenge-minded Frenchmen, plus 81,000 screaming compatriots, prove insurmountable?
What do Roarers think?
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October 30th 2012 @ 3:00am
Johnno said | October 30th 2012 @ 3:00am | Report comment
France will be much tougher now than last year. Some really impressive young players, and there under-20 team smashed us in south africa they looked so better condoned and developed than our young boys in SOuth Africa. Argentina came 4th in south africa must of had a good team they beat us to the Argies under-20. But some really good depth Saint-Andre has, and some very fast mobile forwards too.
The high of making the world cup final and doing so well in 2011 against the AB’S, and a new coach with lievermont gone france won’t be the rabbie that lost by 40 last year with the wallabies clocking up 50 plus points.
Going to be much harder then having to back up i think England at Twickenham the week after. Can’t see us winning 2 straight there. No Dussatoir is a big blow but remember this is France a top 5 country like us heaps of depth. I back France to win, in front of big crowd but will be close but France should win. And I read Nigel Owens is the ref, oh no. He was very harsh on the wallabies vs AB’S this year and didn’t let game flow. SO many penaites on the wallabies, i hope he let’s this game flow. This match has a big bearing on seedings and ranking points for rugby world cup 2015, so both teams will be motivated. France to win.
France have picked some powerful young centres too Manu Tuilagi style, so will be tough out wide.
This is going to be massive test for Kurtley Beale, and Nick Phipps these 2 weeks France in Paris/the England at Twickhers.
Going to be good eye opener where those 2 are at, as well as Pat Mcabe/Tapaui, and Pocock’s return too.
And if James Hanson steps up he could really test TPN’s spot in test team, as TPN throwing is awful.
October 31st 2012 @ 8:40pm
bob said | October 31st 2012 @ 8:40pm | Report comment
Hey Johnno, I am wondering why you never think the wallabies can win? You have predicted the wallabies will lose all year. You predicted we would win bugger all in the rugby championship and we came second, we also won our tests with wales 3 zip (six nations champs). I seems like you predictions are with anybody playing the wallabies. How many wins would it take for you to state we have had a reasonably successful year? how many wins till you could state you have some faith in your team the wallabies?
October 31st 2012 @ 9:20pm
Johnno said | October 31st 2012 @ 9:20pm | Report comment
bob yes I did predict the wallabies would lose most of there test matches this year, and many i got right in the losses, and so did a lot of other roarers. SOme picks i got right some i got wrong but let’s look at it honestly bob:
3 tests vs AB’S this year i predicted we’d lose all 3 , we lost 2 and rew 1 and almost lost the last 1. So the fact is i got ti right we didn;t beat the AB’S once all year.
-VS Boks in Pert, some silly ill discipline beast sin bin hurt them but the wallabies won fair and square Boks can;t use ill disipine as an excuse. The argues almost beat us on the gold coast and blew a big lead.
-VS Boks in Preotoira we lost fair and squad we were behind the boks before all the injuries in the match anyway.
And I think 80% of people backed Argnetina to beat us at home in Rosario. Wiith all the injuries and travel that is one of the best wallaby wins i have ever seen. So a lot of the wins the wallabies got this year were really against the odds,.
And i backed the wallabies to do well vs wales and they did but i also backed wales too a lot. In the 2nd test in Melbourne remember it was a kick at full time that got the wallabies home.
And i have faith in my home team when we start winning convincingly ,. The win vs Argentina was inspiriting but still wasn’t convincing it was an error filled match.
Reality is in world rugby right now, other than the AB’S all the other teams are still a bit of a mess and need to get there house in order, and I don’t have much confidence right now in any of the temas in world rugby, but the end of season efforts of the wallabies have given me some hope for what will be a really tough Europe tour. 4 back to back tests in some hostile locations.
November 1st 2012 @ 8:56am
bob said | November 1st 2012 @ 8:56am | Report comment
Sorry Johnno, I saw you predict we would lose every game this year after we lost to the boks in Preotoia and so far we have not lost one. I am not having a go at you personally but I find the constant negativity about the wallabies from roarers frustrating. The Wallabies have done well this year, a win is a win and the wallabies have won a lot of games this year to consolidate their 2nd spot in the world rankings (some by close margins, i think that is good, close games are hard to win).
Honestly the line “So a lot of the wins the wallabies got this year were really against the odds” somes up many roarers attitudes. Every win the wallabies get, and to be fair the wallabies do get a lot of wins, is against the odds, roarers odds. Why dont we support our team?
The wallabies beat wales in every test, but still the wallabies where slated on the roar, why? Wales are the six nations champs. They had a good build up to the tests, but the wallabies beat them? Why slate them the way that was done on the roar? They won by a kick at full time, I heard it called an almost loss on the roar. It was a tight win and it showed character.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant but its really frustrating for passionate wallabies supporters
November 1st 2012 @ 9:19am
Rugby Fan said | November 1st 2012 @ 9:19am | Report comment
One odd thing about the Wallabies record is that they can seemingly beat the Six Nations champions, Wales, at will, but have lost to the other three home union sides in their most recent meetings. In the very unlikely event Australia have a disastrous tour, and go down in every match, they will have a losing record against all the Six Nations sides (only in the most recent matches), while having two wins and a draw against Rugby Championship sides. That would be weird.
October 30th 2012 @ 5:29am
Justin2 said | October 30th 2012 @ 5:29am | Report comment
Paris 2010 was like a golfer shooting 59. Yet it has been extraordinary how often it has become a blueprint for the type of back line that needs to be selected or that Deans is a great coach with the right players. It was a rare performance but hardly the norm and needs to be put in perspective by many on here.
October 31st 2012 @ 5:02pm
soapit said | October 31st 2012 @ 5:02pm | Report comment
we were behind at half time as well so it wasnt even an 80 minute performance
November 3rd 2012 @ 12:05am
fink said | November 3rd 2012 @ 12:05am | Report comment
It was a rotton performance, deans should be sacked for it
November 5th 2012 @ 11:46am
Mike said | November 5th 2012 @ 11:46am | Report comment
I agree with Justin’s point about it being a rare performance, but I don’t agree that its value is somehow decreased by the fact that the Australians fought back from a losing first half. That just shows that the French were no easy beats.
October 30th 2012 @ 5:54am
Hurl said | October 30th 2012 @ 5:54am | Report comment
Beating France Italy England and Wales doesn’t make a Grand Slam.
October 30th 2012 @ 7:23am
Riccardo said | October 30th 2012 @ 7:23am | Report comment
It’s also very unlikely to happen.
France will be out for revenge at Stade de France. Even without their mecurial captain (Dusatoir will be a loss) it would be foolish to underestimate them at home (or anywhere actually – ask the All Blacks how that’s worked out for them in the past).
England at Twickers is the major hurdle for both the Wallabies and the All Blacks.
Wales will feel aggrieved at losing all three fixtures down under when they were in the hunt in each, and will be more of a threat at Cardiff.
A banana skin waiting at the end of the tour.
October 30th 2012 @ 6:07am
Bazza Allblack Supporter said | October 30th 2012 @ 6:07am | Report comment
If oz can win all NH games, it will cancel out a lot of the ordinary domestic season and prove that the consistency is possible
I suspect a grand slam would be an upset…
As opposed to The Darkness, losing any game would be a shock, even though I think wales and England would be hall engine games.
After the RWC final, pity we not playing France again, now THAT would be a game!
October 30th 2012 @ 6:33am
Billy Bob said | October 30th 2012 @ 6:33am | Report comment
Too true Bazza too true. Shame. Wanna swap?
October 30th 2012 @ 10:39am
Bazza Allblack Supporter said | October 30th 2012 @ 10:39am | Report comment
Yes please!!
And have Joubert back as ref…
..to make sure we win again..
October 30th 2012 @ 6:59am
patonga said | October 30th 2012 @ 6:59am | Report comment
I can not remember the last time the wallabies won 3 games in a row ??? i know it must have happened but it seems so long ago.
October 30th 2012 @ 7:06am
Justin2 said | October 30th 2012 @ 7:06am | Report comment
Wales, could have been 4 but we lost to Scotland
October 30th 2012 @ 7:16am
patonga said | October 30th 2012 @ 7:16am | Report comment
thats right,,,, but why do we have to play Wales all the time ??
October 31st 2012 @ 1:00pm
Mike said | October 31st 2012 @ 1:00pm | Report comment
Yes Wales this year.
Also 2010-2011 – we beat Italy by 18 points then smashed France by 43 points, then beat the Springboks by 19 points in the first game of the 2011 3N.
October 30th 2012 @ 7:24am
nickoldschool said | October 30th 2012 @ 7:24am | Report comment
Although the French, like every other NH team, will only have spent 10 days together before this game v 3-4 months for their opponents, I think they have a chance. PSA chose to bring some new blood and it will be interesting to see what they can do at this level.
i think that the midfield is where they can expose the wallabies as Fofana, Mermoz and Fritz are much more creative than Mccabe, AAC or Tapuai imo. i think PSA wont risk Fickou against the wallabies so we will have to wait a bit to see him later on in this tour but hope am wrong. France by 8.
October 30th 2012 @ 7:48am
Justin2 said | October 30th 2012 @ 7:48am | Report comment
Nick int ain’t hard to be more creative than McCabe and AAC
taps is gently creative though I am looking forward to seeing him with more ball, a move to 12 would be nice…
October 30th 2012 @ 8:09am
nickoldschool said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:09am | Report comment
yes i think he can do well in the midfield.
I usually like rather small, elusive and quick n12 and big powerful straight running n13. These days there isnt much difference between 12 and 13. talking about n13, i thought PSA would select Bastareaud who is 110kgs but he didnt make the cut. he clearly wants 2 centres who can run with the ball, pass and kick. I dont mind McCabe as his attitude is irreproachable but he needs to click with his n13 so hopefully the wallabies will find a good pair during the tour.
October 30th 2012 @ 9:10am
Rob9 said | October 30th 2012 @ 9:10am | Report comment
I think when all hands are on deck a JOC/AAC is the best midfield option we have. Creativity coupled with straight and hard ball running ability. They won’t necessarily run over the top of guys (AAC can trample over smaller opponents) but they both have their ways of snuffing out gaps as well as creating opportunities for those outside of them.
October 30th 2012 @ 11:16am
nickoldschool said | October 30th 2012 @ 11:16am | Report comment
Agree with you rob, JOC at 12 does bring a lot of unpredictability in attack, plus the guy can tackle too. In the long term, would like to see him with a big strong straight running n13 like Sautia. I have sort of given up on AAC at 13 but it might be because he was never outside a great twelve.
October 30th 2012 @ 11:26am
Rob9 said | October 30th 2012 @ 11:26am | Report comment
I think the problem with AAC is he’s been used as our ‘Mr Fix-it’. I think if he can be locked away at 13 then he’ll flourish in the role. I think he’s played some of his best rugby at outside centre. But I agree, if a decent beef cake Nonu/Roberts/SBW/JdV type player can be found then it would handy to have such a guy running off JOC. I just don’t think we’ve got a player that’s up to international standard to fill that role yet. Sautia could be an interesting one. I’m a BSHS old boy and I’ve seen him carve up GPS defences from 13 since he was in grade 11. An exciting prospect indeed!
October 30th 2012 @ 2:10pm
nickoldschool said | October 30th 2012 @ 2:10pm | Report comment
Hahah yes, the wallabies need a big strong n13! We haven’t had anyone since Mortlock really.
Funnily enough, if you take Nonu and Smith individually, you would think Smith has the qualities to be n12 (smart, elusive, creative etc) while Nonu is a bloke who would break any defence with a bit of space, hence better suited to outside centre…. Thing is they have proven me wrong as they are one of the best pair of centres we have seen for a long time! They are really unique and I always think that it’s because Nonu has the edge physically on his opponent and Smith has the brains to outplay most other n13 that they have been so successful. For me, it’s Henry’s biggest achievement to have created this unusual pair of centres: a bulkier 12 and a smartish 13. All other nations are still trying to find the key and it’s been going on for more than 5 years…
October 31st 2012 @ 8:06am
Lats said | October 31st 2012 @ 8:06am | Report comment
Dude, Ive always belived that Graham Henry’s masterstroke was moving Nonu to 12 from 13.. our struggles with the AB’s (McCaw, Carter nothwithstanding) in recent years is a direct result of this. Hate to admit it but they really are wonderful to watch this Nonu and Smith..
October 30th 2012 @ 8:20am
Salada said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:20am | Report comment
NICK – there are only two centre combos possible, or so it would seem – McCabe and Taps or, more likely, McCabe and AAC. Neither duo will be good enough for France but adequate against England who seem jinxed when it comes to finding an effective midfield. Roberts is back for Wales so McCabe will have extra sore shoulders after the last of the tour games.
October 30th 2012 @ 8:52am
nickoldschool said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:52am | Report comment
RD might give Barnes a go at n12 too?
October 30th 2012 @ 9:06am
Justin2 said | October 30th 2012 @ 9:06am | Report comment
And that would merely highlight an ongoing RD issue – no idea what his best team is not how he really wants them to play.
October 30th 2012 @ 8:54am
Uncle Argyle said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:54am | Report comment
Hugo,
Technically speaking a ‘Grand Slam’ is a tour of the home nations, England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Seeing this tour only see’s Australia taking on two of those sides its not really what is known as a ‘Grand Slam’. However to France; yes they will be awfully hard to beat but we have done it before.
I am a fan of Louis Picomoles however to say he is “the only man on the planet who comes close to Kieran Read” suggests to me you may have one too many short blacks this morning with your croissant. Picamloes is a devastating ball runner but has nothing near the impact of Read in support or defensive play.
I think our back line will do fine. Tell me do you think any of the French players will be employing the ‘Famous French Face Wash’ that Aurelien Rougerie did so wonderfully on Richie McCaw in the 2011 RWC final?