NRL’s new pitch looks suspiciously like cricket’s
Craig Bellamy wears a Gatorade shower following the NRL Grand Final between the Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs and Melbourne Storm at ANZ Stadium in Sydney on Sunday, Sept. 30, 2012.(AAP Image/Ben Zonner)
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When I die and come back to this sporting world, please, please let me be a marketing guru for the Australian Rugby League Commission.
With thanks to Dire Straits, I’ll get my money for nothing, and maybe even some chicks for free.
As I see it, the “whiz-bang, new” logo announced by the League today is a just about a twin for the one that Cricket Australia has successfully employed for the past few years.
The NRL version features two gold stripes (or chevrons) and the Southern Cross on a green shield. I have looked at it from all angles but there is only one conclusion: the “new” logo looks terribly similar to the logo used by the nation’s cricket authority.
Is there an active brain in the marketing department down at League HQ? Was there a chance the code’s ruling body could have come up with something even remotely fresh?
Overall, I appreciate that the ARLC is genuinely striving to achieve good things for the game but today’s logo release leaves me scratching my head, and maybe even tearing some grey hairs out.
Is Ricky Ponting going to trot out as the new halfback for the St George Illawarra Steelers? Can Shane Watson handle more than one position? Is Michael Clarke going to be a good partner for Benji Marshall at the Wests Tigers?
Confusion over the logos will reign supreme. It should never have come to this.
I say the ARLC has missed the boat AGAIN. Its marketing gurus had the chance to come up with something completely new – something exciting and refreshing to put on the jumpers from the players in the Under 6s right through to the NRL premiership.
Instead, they elected to travel down the cricket path. Instead of coming up with a no-brainer, they produced a no ball.
I am disappointed, but I’ll move on. There were other major announcements from Commissioner John Grant and Co at an important media conference today. They included:
* An aim for each club membership to reach 400,000
* League’s social media platforms to engage a minimum 5.8m people
* 84 percent of NRL players to be engaged in education and/or career training
* Central revenue to have doubled to more than $300m
*Average attendance at NRL games to hit 20,000
*$200m for a growth fund for investment in key projects
I would suggest that all of the above is well within reach, given League’s rising popularity but squeezing an ‘average’ crowd of 20,000 into Brookvale Oval, for example, might be a tad too ambitious.
New logo and strategic plans aside, I believe of the most important announcements made by the ARLC today is in danger of falling into the fine print category.
Grant revealed the decision made been made not to revisit any NRL expansion until the end of the 2014 season. He said the code felt it was more important to strengthen the position of the current 16 clubs before considering further additions.
Grant said: “The Commission has made a decision that, at this time, it’s not in the game’s best interests to commit to any of the proposals that have come forward regarding expansion.
“In making this decision, we are cognisant of the investment of time and money that some of the consortiums have committed to over the past 12 months or so.
“We do not want them or their supporters lost to the game and commit that following the 2014 season, we will conduct a formal and full review on expansion.”
This announcement looked to be made as an after-thought to the “important” blueprint/strategy measures the ARLC wants its fans to chew over and ultimately swallow.
Expansion, to me, is critical to the game’s future prosperity and it now looks as though no new teams have a hope of surfacing until 2017 at the very earliest.
Bye bye Central Coast Bears. Grit in the eye of the Perth Pirates. Central Queenslanders can also stew in their own sugarcane juice.
The only things that are likely to expand in League in the near future are the commissioners’ bank balances and more than likely, their waistline sizes.
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October 30th 2012 @ 3:41am
Johnno said | October 30th 2012 @ 3:41am | Report comment
Maybe TV dinners could be for free too Tim .
2015 would of been great for expansion. The central coast bears have the funds and are ready to go now, as are the Brisbane and Perth bids. i worry about Manly long term. With the 2 stadia preference I just can’t see Manly fans travelling, or does it not matter as most money is made by tv ratings. Will Manly fans still cheer for a team if they never attend matches, that is a good point. Central coast have a stadium. Perth do too, as do Brisbane up to NRL standard all 3.
October 30th 2012 @ 7:25am
DJW said | October 30th 2012 @ 7:25am | Report comment
I’ve looked at this new logo a fare bit since it was released yesterday and to say its a copy of cricket Australia’s is such an easy dig to have at the marketing team at the ARLC. Southern cross- one of two major symbolic icons for Australia the other one being the kangaroo, this couldn’t be used for obvious reasons, it’s the rugby league Australian team logo. Green and gold- Australia’s colours, great choice. It’s always going to be hard to be completely different, it’s representing an Australian sports competition/body. And To say there will be confusion between the two logos is ludicrous, the NRL has two very distinct V’s/chevrons across all the new logos at every level of rugby league, it will be what you associate to rugby league now. And in saying that at state levels the colour changes but the symbol stays the same, compare that and I see no cricket Australia in it.
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October 30th 2012 @ 11:31am
Ken said | October 30th 2012 @ 11:31am | Report comment
I’d agree, both logos certainly share similar ‘Australian’ motifs but they’re sufficiently different in execution that no-one is going to get confused. As you say, they can only go so far with green/gold and a choice of a couple of strong Australian symbols. Maybe they could have been a bit daring and used the original blue/maroon colour scheme of the original Kangaroos but then they likely would have faced criticism for looking backwards at the NSW/QLD roots.
October 30th 2012 @ 8:13am
steve b said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:13am | Report comment
Hi Tim i thought their would have been a bit more thought gone into the new logo it could have been so much better , and yes it would have been nice to let the jnr leagues know about it before they ordered their next seasons jumpers as all will want it on their jumpers so is the new commish going to cough up up for this stuffup .And yes i was hoping for so much more in regards to expansion your right it is critical to the games future , and why couldn’t their have been more consultation with these clubs before they invested their time and money only to be told now see us in five years , bloody poor communication between top and bottom end if you ask me .i was hoping for a little bit more drastic changes in their new vision for the games future like ,bring back reserve grade in the years to come i believe it was a step backwards when we lost them , i can here the critics saying where is the money coming from ,but their was nothing better than going to the footy and seeing all three grades u/23s ,reserves then firsts all on same ground all in the same colours . And your last sentence says it all , because so far all we have seen so far is there prospectus for the future and this has taken six months . the fans really got nothing , i just hope their predictions for the future come to fruition , otherwise it to me it just looks like an expensive makeover with a whole heap of promises , i guess well just have to wait and see …
October 30th 2012 @ 8:45am
Tim Prentice said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:45am | Report comment
Thanks steve b, I appreciate your feedback.
The logo aspect could have been a completely new and exciting design but it is here now and we can only hope that it helps unify League at all levels..
I am right beside you on bringing back reserve grade and, as for expansion, who could blame the possible franchises for not picking up their ball and go home?
Greg Florimo and his Central Coast Bears team have done a power of work trying to get up and running. I’d say this latest brick wall will kill off their hopes once and for all. Sad really, the CC is a rugby league heartland and such dallying by the Commission leaves the district wide open to agghressive expansion by other codes.
The CC Mariners, for example, would be doing handstands as we speak. Watch how strong soccer becomes on the CC between now and 2017.
Having said all of the above, I think it is great the ARLC is actually laying down some positive plans for the future.
Last year, they removed the ridiculous McIntyre finals system, they acted this week on the referees fiasco that had become the game’s biggest blight and I have read that the RL rule book is heading for a long-awaited overhaul and will be re-printed (hopefully) in plain language, and with way fewer grey areas.
Some of the Commissions’s strategic plans might seem a tad ambitious but at least we have been given a blueprint for the future. The previous administration never really produced one of those.
October 30th 2012 @ 12:44pm
roarr said | October 30th 2012 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
A-League is in a completely different season to NRL… the CCM can get as big as they like without taking away any fans of CC Bears.
October 30th 2012 @ 4:18pm
Paul said | October 30th 2012 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
Joint venturing may also be possible, as happens further up the F3.
October 30th 2012 @ 8:47am
Bring Back the Bears said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:47am | Report comment
Bringing back reserve grade is one thing I disagree with. Sure there is a few die hard fans that will turn up to watch all 3 grades, but most punters won’t. NSW and Queensland Cup generate a great point of difference and allows for fans of clubs/locations not currently represented in the NRL to enjoy the game.
Sorry Steve but I don’t see how getting rid of the Newtown Jets and North Sydney Bears to replace them with Parramatta B and Penrith B will add any value to the game. A move like that has potential to do a lot more damage to Queensland RL as well.
October 30th 2012 @ 9:53am
steve b said | October 30th 2012 @ 9:53am | Report comment
With a bit of organization you could still have both , the country league has barely been tapped i know of 5 good young players who chucked the game in because they were to old to play under 20s and the local side had 35 players registered for A grade two of them are now playing AFL we need to increase the player base with more incentives at the lower level..
October 30th 2012 @ 2:58pm
Bring Back the Bears said | October 30th 2012 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
I’ve been hoping for a while that the NSW Cup would expand more into country areas and actually make it a state wide comp. It’s looking like it may slowly happen, Central Coast are coming back in next year with the Wyong Roos. Also in 2014 Albury Thunder is tipped to come in and feed to the Storm.
Hopefully in the not so distant future a Central West team can make an appearance as well.
October 30th 2012 @ 8:36am
Australian Rules said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:36am | Report comment
“Confusion over the logos will reign supreme. It should never have come to this.”
A little dramatic perhaps.
Tim, to put it another way…
“Professor, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it’s time for our viewers to crack each other’s heads open and feast on the goo inside?”
“Hmm, yes I would Kent.”
October 30th 2012 @ 12:44pm
micka said | October 30th 2012 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
+1 Funniest thing I’ve read on theroar
October 30th 2012 @ 5:43pm
Dan said | October 30th 2012 @ 5:43pm | Report comment
Bahahahaha man, simpson’s quotes aren’t used enough…
October 30th 2012 @ 8:37am
oikee said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:37am | Report comment
To be honest Tim i think the marketers did a really good job. You cant stray to far from what they have come up with, trust me, it wont work. As a matter of fact you will probably be left with a huge bill and very angry fans and players.
The Chevron is a rugby league icon, as is the V. I know the AFL love the big V but they dont own this, rugby league has used the V and Chevron from day dot.
The “Southern Cross” perfect. It gets both sides of the tasman under the one roof, so again they have pulled together the code by placing the code under the Cross. Marketing genious is all i see so far.
The NRL itself, it looks very sleek, very modern with angles cut away, sort of like the game flows with cutting angle runners. So again, they have up-dated a good looking wording.
Finally, the whole thing placed on a battleshield backing sits with the spirit and toughness of our sport.
You talk about working for a marketing department, here i will give you a job that you might enjoy even better.
Queensland Art Gallery= QAG , and Gallery of Modern Art queensland= GOMA , commissioned a team of marketers from Sydney and Melbounre to come with with a name to join these 2 galleries as one.
Now Qag as queenslanders call the joint, and Goma roll off your lips quite well? no. You want to know what these makrketing genious’s come up with?
QAGOMA, is that a word? say it, or try to say it, is it QA,,,,,,Goma or Qag,,,,,oma ? Qagoma, try to come up with a nice way of saying this. qagoma.
So after all the money, spent on these marketing genious’s from Sydney and Melbourne to come up with a new marketing word to join our 2 galleries (which are considered one gallery as a team, they come up with Qagoma.
Damm money well spent, you could join this team Tim, you would fit right in.
October 30th 2012 @ 8:51am
Tim Prentice said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:51am | Report comment
Nope, Oiks, haven’t got time for that.
I am too busy jousting with you here on The Roar.
I was not asking the marketing guys to re-invent the wheel. I would have liked to have seen something a little different, a refreshing new look if that were possible.
Perhaps I am too hard to please, I just think there is too much similarity with cricket’s long established logo and wanted something striking, yet different.
Perhaps the Commission is really in ‘Dire Straits’ for ideas.
October 30th 2012 @ 9:08am
oikee said | October 30th 2012 @ 9:08am | Report comment
You say it looks like the Cricket logo yet also in the same breath you try to say they did not come up with anything new. So without changing much , all of a sudden we look like the cricket logo. ?
Come-on. We added the Southern Cross to the Logo, that was about it.
If our boys start wearing baggy greens then yes we are following cricket, that will never happen.
I myself think it is marketing genious, i will explain why. Without changing too much, and for a small outlay, they have got our whole game under the one banner, the one logo and the family,(i noticed they used this word as well) the family is now and can now be united. Together at last.
That was the whole point, remember not long ago i was calling the game the NRl ARL NSWRL ? what do we call the game, well now i know,
It is the NRL family, National rugby league. National as in Nation. If you see the southern cross at night your safely under our banner.
October 30th 2012 @ 11:22am
Dayer said | October 30th 2012 @ 11:22am | Report comment
what National as a nation … you really mean Eastern Australia … Why oh why couldn’t the ARLC bring in more teams in 2015 …. I say WHY!!!! the more they delay, other sports like Soccer and Union will get a MASSIVE shoe in. What a stupid decision to defer expansion. There are just too many teams in NSW, grow some balls ARLC and make some touch decisions on several of the NSW clubs. as for the LOGO, yes at first look. it did remind me of Crickets Logo but I like it.
October 30th 2012 @ 9:40am
clipper said | October 30th 2012 @ 9:40am | Report comment
I seem to recall the furore that erupted from league fans when GWS unveiled their team strip – saying that it too closely resembled west tigers, as the colours and design were similar. Will there be the same furore here, as the colours are the same as Cricket Australia, and the design similar.
Like the last line saying the only things likely to expand are the waistline sizes!
October 30th 2012 @ 12:17pm
Crosscoder said | October 30th 2012 @ 12:17pm | Report comment
And quite rightly so.
National colours,are a different ball game to club colours.National teams share a common bond,Australian.Green and Gold are the Kangaroos colours geez.I have no problem with the colours nor the new logo.
Imagine the Storm having black and white colours when they were installed in Melbourne.There would be hell to play.
The things likely to expand are junior participation in non heartland states,including WA.And we all want that(cough splutter) unless we are followers of another code.
I think with the monies the code now has at its disposal,they can pretty well try any tasty morsel.After all,expansion as a point of order,will be revisited in 2014.Hardly eons away.Grant is on his way to WA,so suggestions bidding areas will be cast aside are way off the mark.
And Skippy505 has hit the nail on the head,the idea is to encompass all parts of the game.
October 30th 2012 @ 1:51pm
Renegade said | October 30th 2012 @ 1:51pm | Report comment
Not sure if Clipper actually thinks before he writes stuff on here…..
How long have the kangaroos been wearing the green and gold for?
October 30th 2012 @ 9:53am
skippy505 said | October 30th 2012 @ 9:53am | Report comment
I think you need to look at the whole system. This isn’t really about one logo its about connecting all the different parts of League together. I wasn’t so sure at first glance, but now its really grown on me and the more I see the more I like. The comparison to cricket is tenuous.
October 30th 2012 @ 10:19am
Brett McKay said | October 30th 2012 @ 10:19am | Report comment
Agree, Skippy, when the NRL logo is veiwed in the context of the full set, it actually works well. And the NRL ‘corporate’ logo won’t even be the main one we see, it’ll be the NRL Premiership logos (with the Provan/Summons trophy image) that appears on jerseys, and on grounds, not the corporate one that everyone is having a crack at..
October 30th 2012 @ 9:59am
Kris Swales said | October 30th 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
Main logo is nondescript. Ordinary font. Slap a football on it. C-.
Overall branding concept is great. A+++, will buy again.
October 30th 2012 @ 10:56am
me, I like football said | October 30th 2012 @ 10:56am | Report comment
“An aim for each club membership to reach 400,000″ I think that means Total club membership, but even so I can’t see that happening for a very long time let alone in the forseeable furure
October 30th 2012 @ 1:10pm
Nathan of Perth said | October 30th 2012 @ 1:10pm | Report comment
I assumed it was as well, unless we expect to see the NRL overtaking EPL or La Liga soon
or the NFL.
October 30th 2012 @ 2:40pm
Rixy said | October 30th 2012 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
It would be a dream of mine to have over 6.4 million NRL members!
October 30th 2012 @ 12:25pm
Crosscoder said | October 30th 2012 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
No one could have foreseen well over 200,000 members not that long ago.It is now a fait accompli.
No one particularly AFL people could see the NRL securing $1bn plus for their Tv deal,and were emphatic with that view.That was in the very forseeable future ATT.It happened.Many of course remained silent or backtracked.
No one could have foreseen a Strategic Plan in place within a few months as promised in Feb by the newly installed ARLC.
Having 20 rounds set in stone for the first time ,will assist in growing membership.The code has only touched the peripheries when it comes to selling membership.It is really a recent phenomenon.The take up rate for a couple of the NRL clubs to date(2013 season) has been a record.
October 30th 2012 @ 1:08pm
Nathan of Perth said | October 30th 2012 @ 1:08pm | Report comment
I don’t know, CC, I recall a lot of people saying $1b was pretty certain, myself included. The memberships will grow, of course. (I’ve done my part, haha, WA membership with the Bunnies)
I think the mostly fixed round schedule will be a bigger improvement than people expect. There will be a loss in some of the TV ratings but a definite gain in attendance and the amount of money a single punter at the ground with a ticket, pie and beer puts into the club is worth a dozen bums on a couch.
October 30th 2012 @ 1:36pm
Crosscoder said | October 30th 2012 @ 1:36pm | Report comment
You are the exception,rather than the rule Nathan.
I can vividly recall,many from that other code on these boards citing figures of $700-850m as maximum.Many rl people were sure of a figure round the $1bn mark and they were close to the mark.
When Masters suggested the code would get $1bn on one occasion ,he was laughed at.He may well be, still laughing.
Good on you for buying a membership.
October 30th 2012 @ 5:01pm
GoGWS said | October 30th 2012 @ 5:01pm | Report comment
Let’s not re-write history… a couple of weeks out from the NRL deal announcement Masters said the NRL would achieve the same deal as the AFL which just hasn’t happened.
October 31st 2012 @ 7:59am
Crosscoder said | October 31st 2012 @ 7:59am | Report comment
No just spelling out the facts.You can’t change history,although some try to.
I stated when Masters maintained the code would achieve $1bn he was laughed at.Please read the context.
The Tv negotiations have not yet concluded GOGWS ie mobile and Sky News.Let’s not get too hasty and not a case of rewriting history.
October 30th 2012 @ 2:32pm
Australian Rules said | October 30th 2012 @ 2:32pm | Report comment
CC, you seem to bang on a lot that people (mostly australian footy fans) underestimated what the NRL would get for its broadcast rights…and oh how they were wrong.
I was one of them. What you don’t mention, however, is that the reason that most people (of all codes) were predicting a lesser figure, is because they assumed that the ARLC would insist on greater national coverage:
- a guarantee for more live games
- broadcasting into all states
- a dedicated pay channel
- and other improvements, such as a wknd allocated to Origin or possible resumption of the Saturday GF.
Obviously none of these things happened… and Channel 9 maintained its status quo, albeit for a much higher price than before.
If the ARLC *had* insisted on guaranteed live games and genuine national coverage, then Channel 9 would have paid less because they would have lost control over when and how it televised NRL matches. TV networks will agree to show matches live but given the choice, they’ll show them in prime time to maximise ad value.
So by all means bring up the point about people underestimating the amount of the deal (the billion bucks is fantastic for the code btw)…but unless you do it within the context of those predictions, it just sounds like pointless code-war jabbering.
As to the point of the article, I think the ARLC is making the right call in not expanding right away…and the logo looks good.
October 30th 2012 @ 2:58pm
clipper said | October 30th 2012 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
AR, you are quite right. I never mentioned what they would get, but often said would they accept less to give fans better coverage and the answer was no. The situation is now that there is better coverage in NSW for AFL than league, which is great for AFL fans, but not so fantastic for NRL fans.
October 30th 2012 @ 5:18pm
bjt said | October 30th 2012 @ 5:18pm | Report comment
Same here in Queensland. We get better AFL coverage than league, and its amazing how often a Gold Coast/Lions game is on, usually both in the same weekend. When was the last time you saw a regular Cowboys game on?
It’s called a strategy, something league is raving but clearly doesn’t have as shown from the recent TV deal.
AFL used TV to 1) make a lot of money for the code and 2) as a promotional tool for the code, very important to grow and make more consumers, therefore more money outside of TV.
NRL used TV to 1) make a lot of money
By not using TV as a promotional device is not only mind numbing stupid, beyond all belief really, but assists in alienating fans and exposing the dominating relationship Channel 9 has over code.
October 31st 2012 @ 8:27am
Crosscoder said | October 31st 2012 @ 8:27am | Report comment
If you had read carefully Clipper what I stated,I did not state EVERY fan,but many.You obviously did not understand the green and Gold involvement in the Logo, makes it very difficult.
I try not to generalise please not do the same with your interpretation..
The situation now (and you being a ru fan) is the code is now cashed up,and will be able to spend its untold wealth on grassroots development in non heartland states and perhaps even in ru schools.Mr Grant will be visiting WA on Thursday,I trust you will wish him well.
If rl fans had a choice of having no money and FTA and watching their stars going to other codes.I think I know their preference.
There was always going to be give and take in the tV deal.At the end of 2017 the code will be in a position to do ,pretty well waht it darn well pleases.
The fact the code achieved $1bn plus ,has cetainly created unease by some of the massess.
October 31st 2012 @ 8:17am
Crosscoder said | October 31st 2012 @ 8:17am | Report comment
AR ‘
Please when the figures were stated by may AFL fans, there were no specifics mentioned by them,as to how the NRL deal would span out.You didn;t know it,neither did I.
All we got, they will get nowhere near the AFL,there is no chance of doubling the amount(now at least 2 1/20ch9 hasnt the money,ch10 is broke a,d ch 7 and 10 wont bid., or $1bn just wont happen.NRL fans didn’t say it en masse.Álibis,deflections …..
The only thing NRL fans worked on, was on the basis of the current Tv ratings which matched the AFL,and the strong chance of expansion . IOW another time slot.The latter did not happen yet they still got the money.Pay TV channel was a wish.
No one had a clue as to weekend Origin,as the Tv station and the code have always maintained @ mid week is best for ratings and b) there is no room in a busy schedule for Origin..
The code with one game less ,with cancellation of F&L rights and 20 rds scheduled in advance,despite not having more FTA games,still achieved $1bn .So cut the deflection.There is more money to come.
So I humbly suggest you spend some time looking at the predictions many of you made and in the same context be a little appreciative of Master’s comments.Instead of the flag wavers now coming in to cover their a..ses
Channel 9 did not maintain the status quo in everything as has been pointed out ,with 20rd scheduling and F&L rights cancelled.Yet if the status quo was mainatined (and it was in the number of FTA and Pay matches),the code secured 2 1/2 times what they got before,when many of you guys maintained last time they received full commercial value.The latest figures tend to dispute that.
October 31st 2012 @ 9:17am
Australian Rules said | October 31st 2012 @ 9:17am | Report comment
No-one is disputing the enormous money that the ARLC secured.
What I am pointing out, is that when the deal was done, hundreds of fans were pouring onto sites like this to complain that (virtually) nothing had changed. Even the staunchest RL “gurus”, “pros” and other scribes were penning articles saying fans had been dudded…i.e. the *tv product* had not been improved or broadened since last time.
The ARLC chose to go for max cash, perhaps it will be vindicated.
October 31st 2012 @ 11:42am
Crosscoder said | October 31st 2012 @ 11:42am | Report comment
Again AR you have falen into the trap on not reading what I stated.
Simply my point was to show an opposite view when another flag waver Me i like football,stated he could not forsee the code getting 400,000 memmbers.They have around 250,000 now.
I gave examples where AFL s fans could not foresee the NRL obtaining $1bn.
I was skewered by one (no name no packdrill) when I nominated $950m) with the “Öh CC you are going to tie yourself to the mast with that figure,good luck”.The keyboard cowboy never had the decency to give me some courtesy,just slid into the ether when the figure was announced..
Like any rl fan,I would have liked more FTA coverage ,plus the $1bn deal,but it did not happen because of give and take in the negotiations.
The code needed the cash,to really boost the grassroots,and to ensure star players stayed in the code.
No F&L rights ,and fixed scheduling for 20 rds,V same FTA and Pay Tv coverage ,yet paying 2 1/2 times the amount.Go figure which one is the most commercially sensible,when the cupboard is bare.
October 31st 2012 @ 12:44pm
NF said | October 31st 2012 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
Crosscoder
It’s no secret that people such as millane, sledgeandhammer, Australian Rules & others like clipper on this site do no want RL to succeed and when they get proven wrong they backtrack and attempt to kick the code down whenever they have the chance. Noone want our code to succeed yet they expect there code to have huge succeed and us leaguies are suppose to applaud them and respect there code when they show none of that to ours.
October 31st 2012 @ 3:31pm
Australian Rules said | October 31st 2012 @ 3:31pm | Report comment
NF
Easy on the paranoia.
I’ve stated above that I agree with the ARLC decision not to expand just yet, that I like the new logo and that maximising cash was probably the right thing to do…not sure how that casts me as wishing that RL doesn’t succeed..!
Most League fans were disappointed with the new tv deal as it meant Ch9 maintained the status quo…hardly controversial.
October 30th 2012 @ 2:36pm
oikee said | October 30th 2012 @ 2:36pm | Report comment
The 1 billion took everyone by surprise, including myself. I honestly thought 860 million was a good outcome.
CC it took AFL by surprise and has hit it hard. The lions have lost over another 2 million, with them trying to keep gws and the suns afloat, the afl will bleed every last cent of warchest from it coffers and maybe never recover.
Grant has the good sense knowing that 16 teams is hard to handle, very hard to keep all the teams viable, never mind afloat.
16 teams is enough, it is why i think relocation is a must.
There are a few Sydney teams that can never expand because of the location they are in, while we have cities of millions without a team.,,,,
It makes no sense and we all know this, the truth is their for all to see, it is excepting the fact we need to work on.
October 31st 2012 @ 4:54pm
NF said | October 31st 2012 @ 4:54pm | Report comment
Australian Rules
It seems I incorrectly cast you in with the others who continually kick down RL time & time again so I take it back. I’m just annoyed of people contintually finding negatives all the time in rugby league to the point of nitpicking and intentionally looking for them and pointing them out. While the positives is just hidden away and it seem us leaguies can’t talk up our sport either we have to be negative about that’s seems to be the status quo.
While other sporting codes and there fans gladly boast and praise there sport to the high ends of the earth us leaguies cannot as we get lambasted for doing so. I tend to get into heat of moment every now & again when it comes to the Roar when I see the comments said about my code in a negative light it fires me up and I’m sure it does the same for you and your preferred code.
November 1st 2012 @ 8:36am
Australian Rules said | November 1st 2012 @ 8:36am | Report comment
I actually think Leaguies kick down league more than fans of other sports do.
Be it Gallop, referreeing, the ARLC, rep eligibility, NRL marketing, fixturing, player behaviour…there are so many things that League supporters seem to whinge about constantly.
Australian Footy fans are probably the opposite…they refuse to see a single fault in their sport!
November 1st 2012 @ 10:04am
Crosscoder said | November 1st 2012 @ 10:04am | Report comment
League fans have been the biggest critics of their code for as long as I can remember.IOW they are not fools,and just don’t lie down and accept everything the admin legislates or approves.Most rl fans do so on the basis of constructive criticism.Constructive criticism is healthy.
The aspect that riles up supporters, is people from other codes bagging the code,simply because of the who is better routine ,criticism based on ignorance,and just plain cheap shots and cannot handle it when rl fans respond ..
RL fans in general are not yes men/women ,nor does the code have a compliant media that bows and scrapes,.One only has to look at the media debate on refs,TV contract,CEO etc.
The latest story on tanking,which quite a few and I suggest the admin had an inkling,has been going on for yonks.Where was the gresat media outcry and fans complaining en masse.
If you go though life with little criticism,there is something wrong.Because you will never learn from mistakes.
The day someone or something is above criticism,I have arrived in Heaven.
The debate is about the Logo and criticism for or against.My response is based on criticsm by rl fans compared to others.
November 1st 2012 @ 11:27am
Australian Rules said | November 1st 2012 @ 11:27am | Report comment
haha ok