Rugby League World Cup dark horses
By Curtis Woodward, 30 Oct 2012 Curtis Woodward is a Roar Guru & Live Blogger
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With the Rugby League World Cup less than a year away, national sides are upping the ante ahead of the 2013 tournament. Australia and New Zealand are the obvious favourites and rightly so.
But don’t underestimate the value of the underdog.
England, Italy and Fiji are firming as dark horses for the Cup, which kicks off on the 26th of October next year at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff.
The English destroyed Wales overnight in Wrexham 80-12, with Josh Charnley snaring four tries. A firing England side will ensure plenty of interest in the countdown to the World Cup.
“I have had a massive day with England and loved every minute,” Charnley said after the demolition of the Welsh.
“We have worked hard over the past few weeks building up to this game and to put in a strong performance was so important. We talked about being relentless in the final 20 minutes and we lived up to those expectations. I think we have laid the foundations now to take us forward in the competition.”
Spearheaded by Sam Tomkins, England face Australia in a huge double header to kick off the tournament, before facing Fiji and Ireland.
The Burgess brothers, Chris Heighington, Gareth Ellis and James Graham give the co-host nation much needed grunt in the engine room, while Brisbane Bronco Jack Reed adds a touch of class in the backline.
Another addition to Group A, the ever-entertaining Fijians, will have plenty of experience in their ranks.
Petero Civoniceva and Lote Tuquri are expected to lead the 2008 Cup semi-finalists.
At this stage, Jarryd Hayne is expected to miss selection for the Australians and would be a fantastic addition after representing the Bati at the last World Cup.
“Like any Fijian player he [Hayne] likes to play where he feels relaxed and easy,” Fijian assistant coach Joe Rabele told AFP.
“Jarryd feels relaxed at fullback and he is more dangerous at fullback than on the wing.”
Sisa Waqa, Marika Koirebete and the Sims boys add plenty of skill and talent to an already dangerous outfit.
2012 Dally M Winger of the Year Akuila Uate is expected to be selected by Australia.
Another team destined to make a noise at the World Cup are the Azzuri. Italy will be bolstered by the addition of Penrith Panthers legend Craig Gower.
Gower has already represented Italy in rugby union and is desperate to cap his glittering career with a successful World Cup campaign.
Italy will be led by former Golden Boot winner Anthony Minichiello and hopefully Terry Campese. Shaun Berrigan is another name on the Italian wish list.
Anthony Laffranchi and Mark Minichiello will lead their forward pack.
The Azzuri face Scotland, USA and Wales at the World Cup.
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October 30th 2012 @ 3:06am
Johnno said | October 30th 2012 @ 3:06am | Report comment
Fiji will be much better this world cup than in 2008, as will Samoa too. And France will be much improved too now.
October 30th 2012 @ 5:35am
Steve said | October 30th 2012 @ 5:35am | Report comment
Those teams will get smashed. I do expect England to improve.
October 30th 2012 @ 5:56am
JCVD said | October 30th 2012 @ 5:56am | Report comment
Agree. If all results go as planned the semi finals will be aus v Fiji and England v nz. Dark horses for me are England. They have been putting in a lot of effort lately and the results showed on the weekend with them thumping Wales. Not to mention all the extra NRL talent they will have this time round.
I generally think it will be a fantastic world cup. And will provide another good stepping stone for the 2017 world cup to be hosted by aus and nz
October 30th 2012 @ 6:44am
Terry Tavita said | October 30th 2012 @ 6:44am | Report comment
don’t know how credible the rl world cup is..the samoa national rl team hasn’t played a test match in three years..don’t know if a national team still exists..
October 30th 2012 @ 7:07am
League fan said | October 30th 2012 @ 7:07am | Report comment
Samoa will have a very strong side. You only have to look at how many Samoans there are playing in the NRL and even the English super league to know they will have a gun team.
While I agree it is not good they have not played many internationals recently but then again nor has Australia or NZ. Quite surprisingly it is the emerging nations like Canada, Jamaica, Lebanon and a lot of the European sides that are leading the way with full international schedules.
October 30th 2012 @ 7:01am
Go warriors said | October 30th 2012 @ 7:01am | Report comment
While I agree England, Italy and Fiji will be very dangerous there are also a lot of other dangerous teams that should not be taken lightly. Samoa and Tonga will field very strong sides. PNG will be tough, they almost beat a star studded pms 13 not long ago. France is another team that has improved dramiticaly and they will be playing in France so they will be tough. Then you have teams like the USA and the Cook Islands who are completely unkown but that can make them very dangerous.
I am very excited about this world cup. I will be flying over and I will be seeing as many games as possible, cant wait.
October 30th 2012 @ 10:17am
Curtis Woodward said | October 30th 2012 @ 10:17am | Report comment
Really hope USA have a dig. Especially with a captain named Apple Pope.
October 30th 2012 @ 7:36pm
Andy said | October 30th 2012 @ 7:36pm | Report comment
Are they selecting players from USARL too? if not then it is fair to say that their chances of doing well decrease.
October 30th 2012 @ 8:54pm
yewonk said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:54pm | Report comment
what is the story with the two leagues why are they not joined
October 30th 2012 @ 8:42am
Steve Robb said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:42am | Report comment
France are horrendous, i watched their game against Wales in Lens a couple of weeks ago online and apart from a 6 minute period where they scored 3 tries they only beat Wales 20-6. I think the Cook Islands will be the best island side. I still hate the fact that most of these other sides will just be Australians running around in different coloured jerseys. I would much rather watch Italy or Tonga get beaten 80-0 with homegrown and developed players and then hopefully over time they can continue to improve. It may take 50 years.
October 30th 2012 @ 10:18am
Curtis Woodward said | October 30th 2012 @ 10:18am | Report comment
Yeah saw that French game on streaming too. Plenty of big forwards but Thomas Bosc really needs some help.
October 30th 2012 @ 9:13pm
nzmate said | October 30th 2012 @ 9:13pm | Report comment
agree with your last comment steve – its not a good look for international league and just opens the game up to the same ridicule they have been fending off since the last world cup. Im also unsure of the dark horses tag – is that dark horses to make the semi finals or dark horses to potentially win, because there is a huge difference and there is no one outside of australia and at a stretch england or nz that could win.
November 1st 2012 @ 7:21pm
Pogo said | November 1st 2012 @ 7:21pm | Report comment
“I think the Cook Islands will be the best island side.”
Here’s hoping!
October 30th 2012 @ 8:51am
oikee said | October 30th 2012 @ 8:51am | Report comment
After last world cup, it will be the teams nobody gives credit to will be great to watch. Cook Islands have a gritty team as do PNG.
They will both trouble teams in their groups, i think i looked awhile ago and liked there draws.
The big 3 will battle it out, England, Australia and Kiwis, while Fiji and America will not go down without a fight.
This will set up a almighty battle in Australia for 2017. I am looking forward to 2017 already.
I also see Grant has made it clear that the Islands are going to come under the wing of the NRL, great news, it will give the Islands a massive lift and the work has already started with academies started a few years ago in Australia for islanders, they can now build on that so all good.
October 30th 2012 @ 10:02am
Horatio said | October 30th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
Apparently another flag of convenience World Cup. Is that right if hayne misses out for one country he can play for another – what hapened to pledging your allegiance, residency qualification etc…
October 30th 2012 @ 10:20am
Curtis Woodward said | October 30th 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
@Horatio. It is what it is. Just enjoy it.
October 30th 2012 @ 11:12am
Col Quinn said | October 30th 2012 @ 11:12am | Report comment
Sounds just like the RU World Cup
October 30th 2012 @ 11:38am
Curtis Woodward said | October 30th 2012 @ 11:38am | Report comment
Nice call sir
October 30th 2012 @ 5:21pm
Horatio said | October 30th 2012 @ 5:21pm | Report comment
Col,
You are obviously ignorant of the rules for the RU WC but I assume you only read the RL news. You cant nominate for one country and then play for another. You have to nominate your country of choice either by birth, residency or grandparents and then stick to it. Hence Adam Byrne from the rebels played for the Russians because of a grandparent. He was the only “foreigner” in the team unlike some of the RL international teams. Tonie Carroll played for Australia, then NZ and then Australia and then they said they would tighten it up again (still a record in any sport I would think). They still havent. After the 2008 RL WC they said you would have to nominate and stick with it (this would be the fourth alleged tightening in 10 years). Lets see the results of that tightening…
October 30th 2012 @ 9:01pm
Col Quinn said | October 30th 2012 @ 9:01pm | Report comment
Joke Joyce
November 1st 2012 @ 4:57pm
Lovey said | November 1st 2012 @ 4:57pm | Report comment
I’m confused too. Could Tamou play for NZ if he is not picked for Australia?
November 1st 2012 @ 5:16pm
Go warriors said | November 1st 2012 @ 5:16pm | Report comment
No we dont want him back. You can keep him.
November 1st 2012 @ 9:23pm
Lovey said | November 1st 2012 @ 9:23pm | Report comment
“Back”? Anyway, thanks mate, he’s a beauty.
October 30th 2012 @ 10:07am
Col Quinn said | October 30th 2012 @ 10:07am | Report comment
Having just spent a little time in the UKI went to several Sl games, I think most Australian commentators have rose coloured glasses on when it comes to their belief that NRL is played at a higher standard than SL. Sl is played differently but there is not much difference between NRL and SL standards. Leeds did beat Manly last year. The old myth that SL is graveyard for retiring NRL players is rubbish as well. Most of the SL teams certainly had one or two expats but mostly of the teams were made up of young and enthusiastic Poms and not all from the North. There were also a number of young centres, who show a lot more skill than Jack Reid. If the England squad stays free of injuries they have more than an even chance of beating NZ or Australia. They just have to get their heads in order.
October 30th 2012 @ 10:21am
Curtis Woodward said | October 30th 2012 @ 10:21am | Report comment
Hoping England stay fit.
October 30th 2012 @ 11:15am
Col Quinn said | October 30th 2012 @ 11:15am | Report comment
Just on an interesting note. What we call the RL World Cup is in fact the Rugby World Cup. I saw the trophy last year, the original for the 1950s and it was engraved Rugby World Cup. So it looks like that RL owns the name Rugby World Cup and the RU should be calling theirs the RU World Cup. A bit of semantics.
October 30th 2012 @ 11:42am
Curtis Woodward said | October 30th 2012 @ 11:42am | Report comment
Maybe it was the rugby boys who stole it back in 1970?
October 30th 2012 @ 7:56pm
p.Tah said | October 30th 2012 @ 7:56pm | Report comment
Or perhaps RL should just report to the International Rugby Board
October 31st 2012 @ 9:25am
Crosscoder said | October 31st 2012 @ 9:25am | Report comment
Another pimms sir? Nah just give me a schooner of new.
October 31st 2012 @ 9:54am
Horatio said | October 31st 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
The original RL WC started back in the 50s when it was really a 4 nations championship and was designed to be played every 4 years. It since been played since but not every 4 years and was a 4 nations championship into the 80s if not 90s at least. At one time it was so bastardised that the final game of the Ashes series (if the score was 2-0 and Australia was so dominant) would count towards World Cup points. It paled into comparision with the Soccer World Cup. If indeed the Rugby World Cup was so named (and these days the lawyers would be all over it) , how can you blame southern journos for calling RL “rugby”.
November 1st 2012 @ 10:44am
Leo said | November 1st 2012 @ 10:44am | Report comment
Is there anywhere online which proves the RLWC was originally called the Rugby World Cup?
http://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php/topic/234602-is-there-anywhere-online-which-proves-the-rlwc-was-originally-called-the-rugby-world-cup/
October 30th 2012 @ 10:22am
Willz said | October 30th 2012 @ 10:22am | Report comment
In September 2012, the PNG RL Team went down to the star packed Asutralian PMs 13, 24 – 18. If it wasn’t for a last minute try to Aquila Uate, it would have been a draw. In fact both scored 4 tries a peice but Scott Prince’s goal kicking proved to be the difference. The PNG Team had all local based players from the PNG NRL. With the inclussion of David Mead, Neville Costigan and other Super League based players……I am sure PNG will be the better side of the Island Nations in the RL WC. Adrian LAm has started preparations already and the PNG Government with the giant mining and gas companies are putting a lot money into the PNG Kumuls preparations. The budget is now at AU$50 million for the PNG RL Team. I expect PNG to be the team to watch!
November 1st 2012 @ 5:00pm
Lovey said | November 1st 2012 @ 5:00pm | Report comment
Well mate, I hope so.