Rado needs to start roaring in Brisbane
By dinoweb, 16 Nov 2012 dinoweb is a Roar Pro
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Brisbane Roar's coach Rado Vidosic during training in Brisbane. (AAP Image/Dan Peled)
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Despite Sydney’s demoralising results over the past couple of weeks, thanks to the resignation of Ian Crook, it is Rado Vidosic and Brisbane Roar that will be feeling all the pressure when Sydney FC travel to Queensland Friday night.
After being the pacesetters for the past two seasons, Brisbane’s bubble has been well and truly burst with three straight losses including two at home.
A 5-0 drubbing of Melbourne Victory in week two had most thinking that it would be business as usual for the back-to-back grand final winners, but it is Brisbane that now find themselves in last place, not Melbourne Victory.
With nine of the teams most regular players having been with the club for the entire golden period, it would be difficult to lay much of the blame with them. The obvious change then has been the coach.
Support for Rado within the club has been universal to date, but with the teams poor results increasing, another loss in front of an expected large Lang Park crowd, against the team Roar fans love to hate, could see that support rapidly dwindle.
Is the pressure on Rado justified? Can he step up to fill the shoes of Ange Postecoglou?
Apart from last weeks game against Heart, Brisbane have dominated the stats every week except the most important one, who scores the most goals. Three 0-1 losses and a 1-1 draw would suggest that things may not be as bad as they seem.
In that context, Rado’s post-match conference seems like an overreaction at least.
In his time with Roar, and despite his success, Ange rarely chastised the players publicly. For Rado, who has yet to achieve anything as the man in charge, it is a sure way to start losing the respect of the playing group, and raise eyebrows with the general public.
At the start of the season, many comments were forthcoming about Rado’s role in Brisbane’s success. While he may have a good understanding of the game, his inexperience at being in charge is showing through.
To date, like many coaches, Rado seems to have a set game plan for the match, a plan he believes will get the best result on the day, but few other options.
Frank Farina was one such coach, good when in front but lacking in ideas when behind.
Guus Hidink on the other hand starts with plan A, then will change to plan B, or C or even D as and when circumstances dictate. Rado is yet to demonstrate any such tactical versatility during a match.
In a similar vein, even knowing when to make substitutions is something an assistant does not get much experience with.
Against Adelaide, for example, despite being behind, Rado hesitated to make any changes. The team was playing well but just failing to find that elusive breakthrough.
How often do you see players come on and make a game changing impact in just such a situation? Rado delayed making any changes until it was too late, and even then, the changes were just like for like, with no attempt to change the team pattern.
Is Rado capable of reversing the Roar’s poor form? Friday night will give a fairly clear indication of his ability to do just that. Another loss would be catastrophic for the Roar’s season.
While many will no doubt be there to get a glimpse of the great Del Pierro, for Brisbane fans it will be the performance of Vidosic that is most important.
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November 16th 2012 @ 3:52am
bee bee said | November 16th 2012 @ 3:52am | Report comment
Seems obvious that Ange could motivate this group but Rado cannot. The only time this season they performed was against MV. Even when he wasn’t their coach the group wanted to show Ange what they could do.
When they turned this club around in 2011 half of Brisbane went under water (as well as their stadium) that year they played for the people. Last year you could see they were playing for each other. But I don’t know what will motivate this team in 2012/13.
Rado needs to find something fast because they can’t play Ange every week.
November 16th 2012 @ 6:53am
Realfootball said | November 16th 2012 @ 6:53am | Report comment
Vidosic’s comments after the game, then his presser afterwards, had all the hallmarks of a man out of his depth – knee jerk reaction, irrational sweeping statements, and then that absurd statement that he wasn’t questioning his abilities because he’d been there for 7 years. This was a portrait of a coach lacking any idea of the huge difference between being a number 2 and leading from the front. If I was one of his players, I would have been very, very unimpressed.
The next 2 games are crucial for Vidosic. Another 2 losses and he will have to go. The blunt reality, however, is that the Roar playing group isn’t that good, player for player. Broich was so good when he was good that he lifted all the players around him. Players like Nichols and Murdocca and Partaalu lifted. With Broich out of form and motivation,Nichols and Partaalu look slow and lacklustre, and Murdocca too often runs around aimlessly, getting a lot of ball but doing little with it. If Rado can get Broich firing again, Brisbane will improve; If not, he loses his job and Brisbane will most likely miss the finals.
November 16th 2012 @ 9:42am
matthew_gently said | November 16th 2012 @ 9:42am | Report comment
I would have been more worried if he said he saw nothing wrong in the performance. Roar were rubbish and he said as much. I respect his honesty.
November 16th 2012 @ 10:26am
Realfootball said | November 16th 2012 @ 10:26am | Report comment
The way it was done was poorly handled. I reiterate my point that this is not a coach in control of the situation.
November 16th 2012 @ 10:58am
brisvegas said | November 16th 2012 @ 10:58am | Report comment
No matter what he said he’d be damned for it; and no matter how he said it. Once you’ve attracted negativity you’re are damned either way.
Still, I probably agree with you.
November 16th 2012 @ 8:16am
Minister for Information for the Democratic People's Republic of Football said | November 16th 2012 @ 8:16am | Report comment
The next one to walk the plank? The odds are shortening. It’s between him and Ricky Herbert.
November 16th 2012 @ 8:54am
Realfootball said | November 16th 2012 @ 8:54am | Report comment
Herbert is rusted on to Phoenix. Impossible to see him being pushed.
Awful coach, though. Lowest common denominator football is the standard game plan.
November 16th 2012 @ 10:00am
Minister for Information for the Democratic People's Republic of Football said | November 16th 2012 @ 10:00am | Report comment
With his squad what other choice does he have. Huysegems,Ifill,Fenton and Bertos are the only ones who actually resemble footballers. Mind you we have plenty of hacks at SFC too.
November 17th 2012 @ 10:39am
clayts said | November 17th 2012 @ 10:39am | Report comment
Mate, it’s 7 rounds in and with that win they are in the 6. Give me strength
November 16th 2012 @ 8:55am
Boba said | November 16th 2012 @ 8:55am | Report comment
The serve by Rado was justified, Brisbane were listless in defence (Jurman in particular) – they are missing Adnan. Smith needs to step up and gel the back four and Partaluu. Rado is doing an admirable job under significant pressure, it is ridiculous to be calling for his resignation. Underestimate Brisbane at your peril.
November 16th 2012 @ 9:25am
Neil said | November 16th 2012 @ 9:25am | Report comment
Rado needed to slam his players performance. The losses up to the Heart game were acceptable in the fact that Roar dominated the game but not the goal tally, the Heart game was a miserable effort. There is no shame in losing if players try and work hard, but there is shame if you turn up but don’t play. Rado has stuck to long with under performing players.
November 16th 2012 @ 10:00am
jbinnie said | November 16th 2012 @ 10:00am | Report comment
Are Realfootball & Boba talking about the same man????
Let us examine the man,his work experience,& his qualifications & try to come up with something that may help.
First of all let me say I have never met the man so have no pre-conceived ideas on who or what he is,however I do have some experience in where he is at at this moment in time.
Rado has served his “apprenticeship” as a “practicing” coach at a club, that for the sake of differential, went through what I will call 3 different “managers”,Blieberg,Farina & Ange in 3-4 years while at the same time the administration that ran the club could not,under any circumatance ,be descibed as stable. In this area some sort of stability was apparently achieved when the Indonesian business group took over but than Ange’s departure plunged the club backwards on the playing side of things.
Rado is then appointed to replace Ange, working with players who have been his “pals” for the last 3 to 7 seasons.
Was this a good move?,
Let us examine the facts.as we know them.Previously Rado had graduated as a schoolteacher & worked with kids, mostly under the age of 15.Obviously a man of some intelligence he at the same time has taken coaching qualifications to enable him to keep his football knowledge at a high level.He is used as a coach at different levels,junior & senior, by the emerging club Brisbane Roar. By this season he is in a job where the terms of employment have changed drastically for when coaching at the “lower” levels the coach has human nature to help him in his task,that being that the pupil wants to progress to the higher levels. If he, the pupil mis-behaves ,another set of circumstances come into play & that includes the manager,the hard man,the disciplinarian call him what you may for it is he that should have the right to not only hire or fire coaches but players at all levels
So in fact we should have what modern TV has taught us,the” good cop / bad cop” syndrome and it is here I feel Rado finds himself at this point in time,Can he change from good cop to bad cop?,no one really knows for it is actually a state of mind in his squad of players,& it is they who have to reverse what has gone before & accept change.The trouble in this case is that time is not on his side.We can but hope he can change the minds of his charges.
The trouble can actually be sourced back to another bit of managerial work, not coach,but manager & that is in the recruitment area, Rado (& Ange) ,by this time ,should have brought in a nucleus of players to improve the good sides of the past 2 seasons,for, believe it or not, this will be regarded as a sign of “weakness” by those very players who he is having to call on every week.Not a pleasant place to be. Let us wish him well. jb
November 16th 2012 @ 10:47am
Realfootball said | November 16th 2012 @ 10:47am | Report comment
Agree that recruitment has been a key issue. All the other clubs, with the exception of Sydney FC, lifted markedly through astute recruitment. Bosnich spoke recently of the need to improve 10% per season; Brisbane have not improved at all, and Broich is a year older – a factor not to be discounted. Nichols seems to have hit a glass ceiling and has not become the number 10 the club and its supporters had hoped he would.
The fact that Vidosic used two visa spots on an unproven Korean second tier teen and an unproven, teenage Japanese centre half is mystifying. How do these two players in any way add value to Brisbane’s squad? Neither can even make the bench. Jurman appears to have been dropped, but his place looks to be taken by Franjic, if training is any indication. And yet Donachie, twice NYL player of the year, can’t get a run, and there’s been no suggestion that the Japanese youngster will be tried.
November 16th 2012 @ 11:14am
Andyroo said | November 16th 2012 @ 11:14am | Report comment
I am surprised more Roar fans aren’t complaining about the lack of investment in the squad. I think the young foreign players were bought with the idea of selling them in the future.
I honestly think that was one of the main reasons Ange left was that he had a limited budget and there is only so much you can do. After playing the best football in the A leagues history they had to compete on a budget in the ACL (rumours of the squad flying economy) and that was never going to be a good enough.
I guess the wages are being paid and it’s better than having the FFA own the club…. although even WSW get a Marquee.
November 16th 2012 @ 11:29am
Realfootball said | November 16th 2012 @ 11:29am | Report comment
The lack of recruitment and inadequate recruitment have been ongoing issues for Brisbane supporters, Andyroo. We all expected a lift with the Bakries in ownership, and there has been widespread disappointment that it hasn’t happened. The extent to which Vidosic’s bizarre use of visa spots is his own doing, and the extent to which it has been driven by head office, is an open question. My hunch, for what it is worth, is that the buck stops with Vidosic.
November 16th 2012 @ 1:44pm
brisvegas said | November 16th 2012 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
It’s been a sore point since the Bakries took over. But how vocal can you be when your team has been champions two years in a row and have just signed the core group for another few years?
November 16th 2012 @ 10:43am
fadida said | November 16th 2012 @ 10:43am | Report comment
I think it’s incorrect to point a finger at the players first. That 9 of them have been there through the success suggests that if this malaise continues the biggest mistake Roar have made was not to regenerate. That players are too comfortable, not motivated or not good enough. Alex Ferguson, Guardiola, Mourinho all recognise that hunger is crucial and would always make significant player changes after winning titles to improve their squad and keep player on their toes.
Roar are weaker than last season without Adnan (Thwaite would have been a great pick up) and still miss Barbarousis/another number 9, and quality wise have gone backwards over 2 seasons. This is exacerbated by Nichols poor form (?motivation), Broich and Partaalu.
How much of individuals poor form is down to the coach? There are 2 different skill sets to be a coach (manager) and his assistant. Carlos Queroz has shown that a brilliant tactician does not make a coach (manager) on tactics alone. This was always my concern for Rado. It is easy to be in the background offering advice, but another entirely to be the one solely responsible for decisions. As another poster mentioned, his delay on making changes v Adelaide stood out as a serious failing. The mark of a good coach/manager is to make changes that effect the game, turn a loss into a draw/win eg Postacoglu v Sydney. Mourinho is a master of early changes while Ferguson has shown countless times how to turn a game around from a losing position, a combination of tactics and man management. I doubt Rado has the strength of personality to rule a dressing room of egos. His lack of changes show a worryingly indecisive and inflexible streak
Not writing Roar off yet, but I have concerns over Rado as the number 1. Bucks stops with him as he isn’t getting performances out of players.
November 16th 2012 @ 11:26am
brisvegas said | November 16th 2012 @ 11:26am | Report comment
Recruitment was definitely the single most awful decision made in the off season. The whole thing stinks of arrogance and superiority – which is now being shown up to be terribly misplaced.
As for Rado, well, I don’t have a problem with giving the guy a chance, and I think he needs to be given a whole season to see if he can get it right. I’m not convince by his actions so far, but I’m willing to give him time.
I think it’s significant that BR are getting the results they used to get before Ange came along. It didn’t seem to matter who was in charge – Bleiberg or Farina – Brisbane would always seem to lose 0-1 at home. We’d have 20-odd shots on goal and dominate the game, then the opposition would have one decent chance and score. Only Rado is the common factor from that time (and Murdocca).
In general, I don’t think Brisbane have been that bad. They only blew it last weekend in a 15 minute period when they were trying to catch up – which of course wouldn’t have been the case if the linesman hadn’t made one of the world’s most ridiculous decisions. Still, those things happen (unfortunately too frequently in football) and iron themselves out over time. And against Adelaide only a freak save denied them a come back – but that’s what goalkeepers are for. They were dire against WSW, though.
I’m sure they’ll start getting the rub of the green again soon. Good teams don’t become bad overnight.
November 16th 2012 @ 11:30am
Realfootball said | November 16th 2012 @ 11:30am | Report comment
BV, we can’t afford to give him a whole season. If the team continues to track like this for another 3 games, he has to go immediately.
The team’s only performance that wasn’t substandard this season was, obviously, the Victory game, and unfortunately for Rado, it looks like the coaching driver for that performance was Ange, not Rado.
Good teams most certainly can become bad teams overnight, if they are badly coached. This is unequivocally a coaching issue. The recruitment was poor, certainly, but it doesn’t explain these performances. The players are disorganised, unmotivated, underperforming, and the team is showing visible fractures on the pitch. Would that have happened under Ange? Most certainly not.
November 16th 2012 @ 1:38pm
brisvegas said | November 16th 2012 @ 1:38pm | Report comment
I agree there’s a coaching issue, or, probably more accurately, a management issue, a leadership issue. I wonder whether Rado has the authority among the players to demand a performance. Mind you, if the players are slacking off just because they’ve got an easy boss doesn’t say much for their professionalism.
I maintain that if not for a Galekovic save and a dismal decision by a linesman we would not be having this conversation. I fully believe Brisbane would have won both of those games.
That’s not to say the players haven’t been underperforming. Nichols, Paartalu and Jurman in particular look awful for the most part, and there’s not much imagination or guile in the final third, and I get so frustrated at the lack of end product. But, frankly, those things used to frustrate the hell out of me with Ange as well, only I didn’t mind it so much because we were winning.
November 16th 2012 @ 2:16pm
Ian said | November 16th 2012 @ 2:16pm | Report comment
i agree with the lack of finishing which as you say happened with ange also. but we were winning, it was still frustrating as all hell and an opposition can do a quick counter and only has a couple of chances but scores a goal. while we peppered around the box with heaps of possession.
November 16th 2012 @ 2:56pm
Realfootball said | November 16th 2012 @ 2:56pm | Report comment
Yeah, it wasn’t great for a lot of last season – that’s true. I too became frustrated as all get up with Brisbane’s lack of directness. Yes, we won the Championship, but a lot of the football played was really, really dull.
Basically, that was recruitment too. Devere, and in particular Barba and McKay were never replaced anywhere near adequately. Last year’s Roar was a shadow of the team that won the first championship.
November 16th 2012 @ 4:28pm
MV Dave said | November 16th 2012 @ 4:28pm | Report comment
Around 20,000 tickets pre sold so far…lets hope the Roar and ADP can put a decent game! I’m tipping 1-1.
November 16th 2012 @ 4:48pm
Bob said | November 16th 2012 @ 4:48pm | Report comment
Brisbane to win 3-1