Queensland not blue-ing over Origin games

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    Mal Meninga’s Maroons would relish going to Sydney next year and giving NSW another State of Origin thumping, according to Queensland rugby league boss John McDonald.

    McDonald, Queensland’s inaugural Origin coach in 1980, declared Queensland would “get on with it” after confirmation Sydney’s ANZ Stadium would host games one and three of the 2013 series.

    The ARL Commission revealed a new five-year rotation for the best of three-game series on Tuesday.

    NSW will host two home matches next season and in 2016, while Queensland will have two games in 2014 and 2017. Victoria Major Events Company are in discussion with the ARLC to host a game in 2015.

    Brisbane had been slated to host two matches in 2013, but the ARLC, which took control of the game in April, changed that after the NSW government outbid Queensland to secure games one and game three at ANZ Stadium.

    Maroon legends Wally Lewis and Gorden Tallis slammed the Campbell Newman Liberal National Party government – believed to have been in expensive negotiations to bring Manchester United to Brisbane – for handing over an Origin game, but McDonald and Meninga took the news calmly.

    “We’ll enjoy the challenge of going to Sydney and giving them a thumping in 2013,” said McDonald, who is stepping down from the top job.

    “We’ll just get on with it, win the series again and NSW can please themselves.”

    Meninga, who has won every series since taking over in 2006, bristled at the prospect of facing his former Canberra and Australian teammate Laurie Daley with the added motivation of two games in Sydney.

    New NSW coach Daley suggested Queensland would be “filthy” at the news.

    But Meninga said it would bring the best out in his champion side.

    “We were hoping for two games (in Queensland), but it’s not going to be so we’ll just get on with it,” he said.

    “The game should always come first.

    Daley dismissed statistics showing NSW enjoyed overwhelming success against Queensland at ANZ Stadium.

    “We want it (ANZ Stadium) to be a a rotten place for Queensland to come and visit and we need to sell it out,” he said.

    “Every little advantage is worth something but it won’t decide the result if we don’t prepare and play well.”

    Meninga conceded that his record breaking Maroons faced a challenge with NSW “right on our heels”

    “We’ve had a little bit of success in Sydney in 2007, 08 and 09 but the last two years we’ve stumbled a little bit down there.

    “We haven’t played to our potential at ANZ Stadium recently so that’s going to be really critical next year.”

    Lewis took a swipe at sports minister Steve Dickson for handing over an Origin game to the enemy without a fight.

    “Anybody that doesn’t fight hard hard to maintain a bit of loyalty and support for Queensland, I don’t believe they’re real Queenslanders,” said an upset Lewis.

    An angry Tallis suggested voters would not be happy.

    “I tell you what,” fumed Tallis, “if there was an election right now, I know what would be happening.”

    Queensland stalwart and Origin original Chris `Choppy’ Close said it didn’t matter where Origin was played.

    “I’ve always said we’d play them in a carpark if they wanted,” Close told AAP after the news broke.

    “If they want to play (Origin) at Woolies’ carpark in Broken Hill, then bring it on.

    “We’ll turn up with the same attitude, the same team and no doubt there’ll be the same result.”

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    • November 21st 2012 @ 5:36am
      DJW said | November 21st 2012 @ 5:36am | ! Report

      That’s disappointing the Queensland government didn’t try harder to keep the two games.
      I suppose they must see more value in other sports.
      This is the best outcome for the NSW team, as now they have a better chance of winning the series. It was more than likely another series win for QLD next year if they kept the two games.
      Makes all more interesting.

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    • November 21st 2012 @ 7:23am
      Robert said | November 21st 2012 @ 7:23am | ! Report

      I can hear it now.if NSW win,QLD will be whinging that they lost their home game and if QLD win,they won against all odds despite everything going against them.QLD=Redneck Wonderland

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      • November 21st 2012 @ 12:43pm
        Lachlan Simpson said | November 21st 2012 @ 12:43pm | ! Report

        well to be fair to us QLDers, it has been a long 7 years since we’ve had anything to whinge about. so it would be about time after giving you NSWelshman so much to whinge about for 7 long years. It is interesting that you should predict such a reaction from the QLD fans though and I dont doubt it for second as I’m quite sure i remember more than a few NSWelshman have something to say about their home game being shifted to melbourne costing them the series… i guess there’s some redneck in all of us. A certain expression relating to pots and kettles comes to mind….

        …7 long years.

    • November 21st 2012 @ 9:17am
      Will Sinclair said | November 21st 2012 @ 9:17am | ! Report

      I genuinely don’t understand what the problem is…

      2010: Sydney / Brisbane / Sydney
      2011: Brisbane / Sydney / Brisbane
      2012: Melbourne / Sydney / Brisbane

      CLEARLY, the next turn on the rotation is 2013: Sydney / Brisbane / Sydney.

      Otherwise, Sydney has a four year wait to get two games.

      Honestly, why is there an issue here? I genuinely don’t understand.

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        November 21st 2012 @ 9:20am
        steve b said | November 21st 2012 @ 9:20am | ! Report

        Have to agree Will ..

        • November 21st 2012 @ 9:25am
          josh said | November 21st 2012 @ 9:25am | ! Report

          Except the NSWRL sold their second home game last year to Melbourne. That’s the issue.

          • November 21st 2012 @ 4:08pm
            formeropenside said | November 21st 2012 @ 4:08pm | ! Report

            NSW did it to themself, and now expect Qld to clean up their mess (or at least make us pay for it).

            Why Qld and NSW would ever play a game in Melbourne confuses me. If the silly Victorians have not seen the light and given up AFL yet, they never will.

      • November 21st 2012 @ 10:52am
        Renegade said | November 21st 2012 @ 10:52am | ! Report

        Will,

        I am in the same boat as you…..i can’t seem understand what the fuss is about – it’s just common sense in terms of the rotation that NSW gets 2 home games next year

        Queenslander’s are just showing that they really do have lower IQ levels up north……how did this make front page news up there? LOL

        • November 21st 2012 @ 11:46am
          oikee said | November 21st 2012 @ 11:46am | ! Report

          This is just typical the way NSW have run the game into the ground. If you sell your origin game because you cant fill your own stadiums, then that is tough luck.

          You cant see a issue if Queensland sold it’s game then wanted to have 2 games next year. Come on, we are not that stupid Renegade.
          Queenslanders might have been born yesterday, but we are not fools mate. And this is what has happened. The Commission could have started with Queensland having 2 games next year, then the same pattern for the rest of the 5 year shonky deal. But they had to change it around. They could not bare the fact Queensland was going to have 2 games.
          Like a big kid with his tonker toy, once he does not get his own way, he grabs his trucks and goes home.

          Let us pray that it is not a dead rubber for the third game. God help us, NSW will be trying to sell off that game to PNG to get a crowd.
          When you have to start paying for a game that is part of your history, you know that someone has lost the plot.
          Good on Can-do Newman. No punch without Judy, like a prize fight and only one person turns up.
          NSW needs to be really careful, Queenslanders dont mind travelling across the ditch, we might start up our own origin with them nz. You(nsw) can go play with themselves. Just saying.
          🙂

          • November 21st 2012 @ 1:31pm
            Renegade said | November 21st 2012 @ 1:31pm | ! Report

            Mate, you do realise QLD have had more origin games at home than NSW……so this rubbish about NSW not being able “to bare the fact that QLD have 2 games” is a bit of a myth buddy.

            We’ve given you plenty of turns with the tonker toy, to the point where QLD now thinks they own it….. 😉

            • November 21st 2012 @ 5:21pm
              oikee said | November 21st 2012 @ 5:21pm | ! Report

              NSW dont own the tonker toy. Dont ever think somehow you can wiggle that one. You bought the NRL grand finals, you wont be buying origin you oxygen thieves. 🙂
              If it wasn’t for Queensland their would be no origin.

              • November 22nd 2012 @ 5:08am
                ThomasCrown said | November 22nd 2012 @ 5:08am | ! Report

                There would be no Origin if not for NSW, dont make out QLD had the bigger hand in creating it. If not for NSW League in Qld would of probably died in the 80’s and no Origin. Dont forget we help create Origin to help Qld and prevent them going broke, and the thanks we get is “rats n scum” grow up.

    • November 21st 2012 @ 9:37am
      ac said | November 21st 2012 @ 9:37am | ! Report

      The idea of a “neutral” ground in Victoria (Melbourne) is appealing. It makes it fairer plus the Victorian Gpvernment was willing to pay
      $2.5m for it (including 400,000 to employ development people in that state_> Also record tv ratings are had when the game is played in that City. The ARLC are making some crazy decisions,.

      • November 21st 2012 @ 9:57am
        Australian Rules said | November 21st 2012 @ 9:57am | ! Report

        To be honest, I was a bit surprised that the next neutral game is Melbourne in 2015…and then nothing until 2020.

        As you say, ratings are massive when in Melbourne or elsewhere.

        Opportunity lost?

        • November 21st 2012 @ 11:30am
          Crosscoder said | November 21st 2012 @ 11:30am | ! Report

          Live telecast into Melbourne.Bums on seats opportunity lost,eyeballs affixed to TV in Melbourne gained.

          Monetary advanatge gained.Blues fans get a 2nd shot. 52,000 Melbourne,80,000 Sydney.

          The ARLC does however need to do more at grassroots level in Vic,that is obvious.

          • November 21st 2012 @ 12:46pm
            Australian Rules said | November 21st 2012 @ 12:46pm | ! Report

            There are 21 Origin games in the next 7 years…20 of them are in Queensland or NSW.

            You honestly think that putting it into Melb is a “bums on seats” opportunity lost?

            Weird logic.

            Ratings are the biggest when Origin is in Melb and the reason so many down south tuned in last time was because…wait for it… the event was down there…not rocket science.

    • November 21st 2012 @ 9:51am
      Maximus said | November 21st 2012 @ 9:51am | ! Report

      The point is not to look at the past 3 years but the whole SOO. It was Brisbanes turn to have 2 – there is no denying this and even Roy Masters admits its all about trying to even up the contest (same way last years 2nd game should have been in Brisbane and not Sydney). Its just bizarre and the QRL are playing ball by not bluing (pardon the pun) because I’m sure they will get something in return and in any case its in their interests to have a close contest…Gallop admitted as much the other day by saying that the A-League has a really good competition that is even and the top spot is shared around which is what all sports administrators want…

      • November 21st 2012 @ 10:50am
        Ken said | November 21st 2012 @ 10:50am | ! Report

        It’s not bizarre at all – the rotation had got out of balance and the problem was resolved. Queensland did get something in return anyway, they really didn’t want to give up regular games to Melbourne, which was a genuine consideration.

        • November 21st 2012 @ 12:56pm
          Confucius said | November 21st 2012 @ 12:56pm | ! Report

          The RL have said that the 2015 game when Qld should have sent a game to melbourne will be a neutral venue so nothing has changed except NSW manages to rearrange the draw next year to suit itself and even up the series…

          • November 21st 2012 @ 2:04pm
            Ken said | November 21st 2012 @ 2:04pm | ! Report

            Your post and the others against this decision are just spin as far as I can see.

            Please check the recent past and scheduled future and get back to me with a solid example of how Queensland are being hard-done-by. It makes sense that when a neutral venue is used it doesn’t interfere with the rotation – this is a good policy.

    • November 21st 2012 @ 11:26am
      Crosscoder said | November 21st 2012 @ 11:26am | ! Report

      The ARLC made a logical decision ,and did so for 5 years in advance.That is planning ahead,doing the figures ,maximising income.

      Business like ,not reaction like(spur of the moment) pre commission decision making.Queensland still get their quota.That mob would boo anything south of the Tweed(unless of course you are from Kempsey).

      And the NRL is not an even comp ? Gallop is riding a different pony now,of course he is going to say its got the goods.

      One minute Gallop says the West is rl territory and we are comfortable with the fact,the next rl and other codes better look over their shoulders

      Roy Masters whining,that”s the only thing that keeps his blood circulating,Too many face slaps in his fibro days, methinks.

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