Swans still not getting the respect they deserve
By Andrew Sutherland, 13 Dec 2012 Andrew Sutherland is a Roar Expert
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When Sydney were on top of the ladder after round 20, Mick Malthouse put it down to an easy draw.
“I just can’t get my head around it. I’m not saying they’re a dreadful side but I don’t think they’re the best side,” Malthouse observed.
It has been two months since they won the flag and the Swans are still struggling to get the respect they deserve from the rest of the competition.
Immediately following their grand final victory there were strident calls by some clubs for the abolition of the salary cap allowance for Sydney players’ cost-of-living expenses. The insinuation being that the allowance paid for the premiership.
On hearing the news that they would be selecting Kurt Tippett in the pre-season draft, Leigh Matthews exclaimed: “You’ve got the current premiers going and spending a million dollars on a new player, and it’s not supposed to work like that. They are supposed to be getting rid of players.”
This could have been a reference to the allowance, or a suggestion that they are cheating the salary cap.
The problem with this idea is that for a reigning premier, this Swans outfit is seriously lacking in star quality.
At least the type of stars that cost a lot of money. Matthews, of all people, should have realised that they won the flag in spite of this deficiency and despite being well under the cap.
They haven’t needed to get rid of anyone because no one wants them.
In June I didn’t have Sydney in my top four. In July I wanted them to win but I didn’t believe they would. They had to beat Collingwood, their nemesis of the past seven years, to earn a grand final spot.
Badly beaten in contested possessions, centre clearances and inside 50s they should have lost the big one. On three occasions they looked gone for all money but managed eventually to triumph.
Matthews has apparently forgotten that the premiers of the previous five seasons, Geelong, Hawthorn and Collingwood, were able to hold on to their squads; retentions that were assumed to be the result of financial sacrifices by players wanting to be part of a winning culture.
I can’t remember his Brisbane club getting rid of too many players during its triple-premiership reign.
It hasn’t helped the Swans that the living expense allowance, which is set as a percentage of the salary cap and will reach nearly $950,000 by 2014, is effectively the same as Tippett’s wage for next year.
The AFL will review the figure to ascertain whether it accurately reflects the disparity in living costs between cities.
Mindful of the allowance’s importance in attracting talent in the free agency era, and fearful that the AFL will bow to pressure from the other clubs, Swans chief executive Andrew Ireland was quick to highlight a recent PriceWaterhouseCoopers review that placed Sydney as the world’s second most expensive city.
It would be unfair if the AFL reduced or scrapped the allowance all together to even up the competition as the Swans have never been a dominant force.
Even if living expenses weren’t an issue the club is disadvantaged by being heavily reliant on players originating from other states and who may wish to return home at the first opportunity.
The apparent nervousness of other clubs over Tippett’s arrival in Sydney is justified. If the Swans can maintain the form of 2012 and have Tippett come in for the second half of the season and reach the form he displayed in last year’s preliminary final by finishing off the work of his tough relentless teammates downfield, then they will be difficult to stop.
Of course the premiers always seem to be a shoo-in for the following year but rarely do they back up.
Also last season’s competition was one of the tightest in recent memory. Hawthorn, Collingwood and Adelaide will be back with a vengeance, Fremantle will improve, and North Melbourne, Carlton, Richmond, St Kilda and Essendon will be hoping to build on a promising 2012 and who knows what other clubs will rise.
Tippett doesn’t look like the sort of self sacrificial type who would fit easily into the Swans so-called ”Bloods” culture, despite the obvious enthusiasm expressed by coach and former ‘shinboner’ John Longmire.
Forwards are a different kettle of fish. These cultures can be a little creepy to the individualist – they can go beyond discipline and selflessness and press on in an unwelcome fashion into a player’s precious private space.
As former club champion Michael O’Loughlin said:
“The thing with the Swans footy club is that you either buy into the culture or you’re on the outer. Kurt will have to make every post a winner from the moment he walks in because the work he’s going to have to do to prove himself will be bloody difficult”.
Sydney though are aware of the importance of recruiting eccentric star forwards – the great Tony Lockett got them to a grand final and Barry Hall, in between punching people’s lights out, helped them win a premiership.
And there was the flighty Nick Davis who kicked possibly the most telling goal in the club’s history – the snap in the dying seconds of the 2005 second semi final.
Tippett appears more level-headed than Hall and Davis and has expressed an apparently genuine happiness to be at the club – something he didn’t do at Adelaide.
Whatever happens to them next year, it’s a shame the Swans haven’t been given the respect they deserve for winning this year’s premiership.
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December 13th 2012 @ 7:34am
TomC said | December 13th 2012 @ 7:34am | Report comment
I’ve been an advocate for the Swans all season, but this is a sloppy article.
‘This could have been a reference to the allowance, or a suggestion that they are cheating the salary cap.’
There is absolutely no suggestion that Matthews was suggesting they are cheating the cap. That is total nonsense.
‘I can’t remember his Brisbane club getting rid of too many players during its triple-premiership reign.’
You don’t remember the retirement of Marcus Ashcroft, the loss of Des Headland (#1 draft pick and fifth in the Brownlow in 2002), and prospects Jason Gram and Craig Bolton, both of whom went on to long careers at other clubs? I suggest you think harder, Andrew.
‘It would be unfair if the AFL reduced or scrapped the allowance all together to even up the competition as the Swans have never been a dominant force.’
It would be absolutely appropriate for the Swans’ allowance to be reduced. The average AFL player’s wage is roughly $250k a season. At that level, you don’t need an extra 9.8% to cover a slightly higher cost of living. Sure, allow a cost of living stipend to be paid outside the cap for players on salaries at the lower end of the scale, but effectively at the moment it’s just free money.
‘Even if living expenses weren’t an issue the club is disadvantaged by being heavily reliant on players originating from other states and who may wish to return home at the first opportunity.’
And yet, other teams who are heavily reliant on players from other states get no concessions at all.
Why is cost of living and the go-home factor worth an extra ~million dollars in the salary cap for the Swans, but nothing at all for any other team affected by those factors?
December 13th 2012 @ 8:13am
Christo the Daddyo said | December 13th 2012 @ 8:13am | Report comment
A sloppy article? SO what’s your response then? I refer specifically to this statement: “other teams who are heavily reliant on players from other states get no concessions at all”
Go and ask Eddie McGuire his opinion of the support the AFL is giving to the Giants.
December 13th 2012 @ 8:22am
TC said | December 13th 2012 @ 8:22am | Report comment
Eddie is available to provide an opinion on anything, as Jeff Kennett once was (and probably still is), all given from one perspective, naturally. That’s why there’s a commission.
TC
December 14th 2012 @ 9:24am
Andrew Sutherland said | December 14th 2012 @ 9:24am | Report comment
TC,
Yes, Jeff’s still going. He was one of the first to call for the abolition of the allowance after the GF.
December 13th 2012 @ 10:07pm
TomC said | December 13th 2012 @ 10:07pm | Report comment
Christo, I can’t believe this needs to be explained, but there is more than one ‘other’ team in the league. GWS also get concessions. You could argue GC’s concessions are also because they’re in a non AFL state. But there are other teams who rely on interstate players who don’t get those concessions. Notably Brisbane.
Perhaps you should consider rereading the sentence next time you want to respond with sarcasm and scorn. That way you’d be less likely to look like a fool.
December 13th 2012 @ 2:30pm
Andrew Sutherland said | December 13th 2012 @ 2:30pm | Report comment
With all due respect Tom, may I note that Gram and Bolton asked to be traded due to limited opporunities, Headland wished to return to WA, and Ashcroft retired. These were not forced departures resulting from premiership success and salary cap pressure.
I didn’t claim that the 9.8% is the correct concession but that it should reflect the true difference in living expenses – admittedly this appears to be a difficult thing to ascertain.
And yes, I believe ALL the teams in non-AFL States should have a concession.
December 13th 2012 @ 10:03pm
TomC said | December 13th 2012 @ 10:03pm | Report comment
Andrew, your comment was that you couldn’t remember them getting rid of too many players. I gave four examples of players that left the club who would have been entitled to good money. Whatever the cause, when good players leave it alleviates the pressure on the salary cap. I don’t think that should really need to be explained.
And I don’t know how you reconcile saying ‘the concession shouldn’t be reduced’ with ‘I didn’t claim 9.8% is the correct concession’.
December 14th 2012 @ 9:29am
Andrew Sutherland said | December 14th 2012 @ 9:29am | Report comment
Tom, the point about Brisbane is that despite the success they didn’t need to offload players as a result which is what Matthews is advocating at the Swans. Financially, they were capable of immediately replacing any of those players.
And perhaps you should take your own advice to Christo and re read the article. I wrote that the concession shouldn’t be reduced as a means of levelling out the competition
December 14th 2012 @ 12:01pm
TomC said | December 14th 2012 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
‘And perhaps you should take your own advice to Christo and re read the article. I wrote that the concession shouldn’t be reduced as a means of levelling out the competition’
Fair call.
December 14th 2012 @ 4:02pm
Andrew Sutherland said | December 14th 2012 @ 4:02pm | Report comment
Sorry Tom if I was a little brusque but you were dishing it out a little!
December 14th 2012 @ 7:32pm
TomC said | December 14th 2012 @ 7:32pm | Report comment
I don’t think you were too brusque. I made a mistake and you called me on it. That’s totally fair.
Just like you made a couple of mistakes in your article, notably on Matthew’s quote and lost players for the Lions, and I called you on it.
December 16th 2012 @ 10:37am
Brendon said | December 16th 2012 @ 10:37am | Report comment
I think this article understates the huge problem people have with Tippett moving to the Swans, the league isn’t fair for clubs like North, Port or the Western Bulldogs, these clubs are making losses, Port has 35,000 members and lost 2.1 million after grants last year, yet Sydney can effectively buy whoever they want after winning a premiership. It’s an absolute disgrace and leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Sydney for me a my new hated team, can’t wait to see Tippett flop on the field and destroy their culture off it.
December 16th 2012 @ 1:22pm
Brewski said | December 16th 2012 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
Actually, i think you are on to something here, it is actually good that everyone hates the Swans, for to long the Swans have been everyones second team !.
And if Ports 35,000 members turned up to see them play, perhaps they would not be in so much debt.
FWIW i hope Tippett flops on the field, should be interesting when Sydney plays Adelaide next year.
December 13th 2012 @ 7:52am
Cygy said | December 13th 2012 @ 7:52am | Report comment
After all the recent hysteria in the media, at last a bit of sense. Spot on article, mate. Hit nail squarely on head.
December 13th 2012 @ 9:32am
Australian Rules said | December 13th 2012 @ 9:32am | Report comment
This article misses the point.
The extra allowance from the AFL is meant to assist the club with perceived higher living costs of Sydney – in fact, the cost of living in Sydney is now on par with Melb, Bris and Adel…and less than Perth.
If the club can win a premiership and still have $1M in “spare cash” lying around to give Kurt Tippett, then obviously it doesn’t need (and certainly isn’t using) the extra allowance from the AFL. That’s the point.
There’s no way a premiership side should being able to have an extra $1M in their kitty.
December 13th 2012 @ 10:11am
Matt F said | December 13th 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
“The extra allowance from the AFL is meant to assist the club with perceived higher living costs of Sydney – in fact, the cost of living in Sydney is now on par with Melb, Bris and Adel…and less than Perth.”
Where did you pull that from?
In about 10 seconds I’ve managed to find many things that say otherwise
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/about-town/think-sydney-is-expensive-youre-right-20120214-1t3jl.html
http://www.mercer.com/press-releases/cost-of-living-rankings#City_rankings
http://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/comparison/sydney/melbourne?
The last link compares Sydney and Melbourne but you can replace Melbourne with any city you want at the top of the page. Sydney is still more expensive then any other city in Australia.
If you want to discuss whether the level is right, or whether the COLA should be applied for all clubs then that’s fine, but let’s not forget to use actual facts in the discussion
December 13th 2012 @ 12:06pm
Australian Rules said | December 13th 2012 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
I took that from a discussion I saw on telly but after your post, I’ll admit it looks wrong (WA was named as the “most expensive state”). But it seems Sydney is still the most expensive city, but not by much: Sydney is ranked 7th, Melbourne 8th.
So essentially, the guts of my point remains.
December 13th 2012 @ 9:47am
Paul said | December 13th 2012 @ 9:47am | Report comment
Still LOLing at the Melbourne media for not seeing it coming.
Though had I not had a Swans-supporting housemate, neither would I.
December 13th 2012 @ 9:59am
Redb said | December 13th 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
Be fair to say Hawthorn eere the team to beat all year but seem to have a problem above the shoulders when front runners. They almost lost to Adelaide in the prelim and then of course couldnt put it together in the big dance.
Sydney were never considered flag favourites but they are not thefirst team to win when not the favourite, see Hawthorn in 2008.
December 13th 2012 @ 11:23am
Tupiza said | December 13th 2012 @ 11:23am | Report comment
Easy to look back now with hindsight. It was a very tight season, the first time top spot was decided on % since ’05 and hawthorn didn’t hit top spot until R22 when they beat Sydney at the SCG.
The loss of Guerra and Whitecross late in the season has been underplayed IMO.I thought it would be tough for Hawthorn to win with Young, Smith, Suckling and Ellis in the same side and so it proved.
December 13th 2012 @ 1:22pm
Mango Jack said | December 13th 2012 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
As far as I’m aware no other code has a similar cost of living concession. As someone above points out, on the salaries these guys are earning, you can’t really justify it anyway. I say get rid of it. It gives critics ammunition and detracts from what was a worthy premiership (and that coming from a Hawk fan).
December 13th 2012 @ 1:45pm
Strummer Jones said | December 13th 2012 @ 1:45pm | Report comment
“The insinuation being that the allowance paid for the premiership.”
Andrew, this is an imaginary insinuation. You need to back it up. The backlash was over Tippett and nothing more, in that they (the knockers) were arguing how the premier could afford Tippett. Before Tippett announced he was going to the Swans , no one (and feel free to prove me wrong) raised the “Swans buying of premierships” in 2012.
December 13th 2012 @ 3:04pm
Charlie Bondi said | December 13th 2012 @ 3:04pm | Report comment
Totally agree with Mango Jack. On the salaries these athletes are on, they won’t struggle finding a place to live in Sydney. OK, if you want to live in Bronte, Bondi, Coogee, Tamarama etc with panoramic views of the Pacific Ocean then of course it’s going to come at a price. I LOVE the Swans but even I think they base their cost of living argument on the fact that “Our players want to live by the beach”. Beloved Swans fan and happy resident of Bondi
December 13th 2012 @ 4:52pm
Doghouse said | December 13th 2012 @ 4:52pm | Report comment
The Swans have to recruit players from ineterstate whose agents all know about the players allowance.
As one who travels to Sydney and Melbourne a bit, Sydney has tourist island prices compared to Melbourne – thats even before real estate / rents.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/property/home-buyers-priced-out-of-capital-cities-20121213-2bbt2.html
I assume Bolton resigned for less money, O’Keeffe and Goodes are on the veteran list and 1/2 price and they lost Spangher, Dennis-Lane, Moore and Seaby who werent on big money but respectable money. They have recruited cast offs in previous years (Mumford was the exceoption) so liitle money expended so they may have room. The contract is back ended so the Swans will lose a few in the next few years – Goodes, Bolton, O’Keeffe (admittedly cheapies), Mattner, Richards, Grundy so they may struggle to replace them
Goddard went to the Bombers but the Bombers lost few players….
December 13th 2012 @ 8:56pm
Ian said | December 13th 2012 @ 8:56pm | Report comment
Sydney won the premiership because it is a champion team, not a team of champions. Andrew implied that in his piece and supported it with the Malthouse opinion of it’s flag chances. If the value of the 2012 Swan’s list was compared with that of Hawthorn’s what odds that Hawthorn’s list would be valued 10% or more than Sydney’s? This is why the Swan’s have the cap room to afford Tippet; nothing to do with the cap allowance. What other club could take Mitch “last chance saloon” Morton and turn him into a team man who’s defensive efforts played critical roles right through the finals?
After September, the opinions from many in clubs, the press and fans outside of Sydney suddenly changed from “the Swans are not good enough” to “the premiers should not be able to afford Tippet”. The smart ones are asking why the Swans won the flag with a playing list inferior to those they defeated, and how can our club do the same or better.
December 13th 2012 @ 9:26pm
Mango Jack said | December 13th 2012 @ 9:26pm | Report comment
You are right, Ian, they won because they are a good,well balanced team who believed in themselves. The point that I, and others, are making is that they proved they don’t need a cap conession, so get rid of it and shut the whingers up.
December 14th 2012 @ 10:23am
TC said | December 14th 2012 @ 10:23am | Report comment
As an aside, this is how Champion Data rates the 18 club lists:
1. Hawthorn (Defenders 2nd, Midfield 9th, Forwards 1st)
2. West Coast (Defenders 4th, Midfield 7th, Forwards 4th)
3. Sydney (Defenders 3rd, Midfield 2nd, Forwards 11th)
4. Fremantle (Defenders 10th, Midfield 5th, Forwards 3rd)
5. Collingwood (Defenders 5th, Midfield 1st, Forwards 14th)
6. Adelaide (Defenders 6th, Midfield 4th, Forwards 6th)
7. Geelong (Defenders 1st, Midfield 8th, Forwards 12th)
8. Essendon (Defenders 7th, Midfield 10th, Forwards 5th)
9. Carlton (Defenders 14th, Midfield 3rd, Forwards 2nd)
10. Richmond (Defenders 13th, Midfield 6th, Forwards 6th)
11. North Melbourne (Defenders 11th, Midfielders 11th, Forwards 9th)
12. St. Kilda (Defenders 8th, Midfield 13th, Forwards 13th)
13. Melbourne (Defenders 12th, Midfield 16th, Forwards 8th)
14. Brisbane (Defenders 9th, Midfield 14th, Forwards 15th)
15. Western Bulldogs (Defenders 17th, Midfield 15th, Forwards 10th)
16. Gold Coast (Defenders 15th, Midfield 17th, Forwards 16th)
17. Port Adelaide (Defenders 18th, Midfield 12th, Forwards 17th)
18. GWS (Defenders 16th, Midfield 18th, Forwards 18th)