SPIRO: Mission accomplished for Oprah and Lance, alas
By Spiro Zavos, 21 Jan 2013 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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Lance Armstrong's Oprah Interview achieved a cynical purpose for both interviewer and interviewee (Image: OWN)
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Oprah Winfrey got her ‘leaping on the couch moment’ in the second part of her turgid interview with Lance Armstrong when the disgraced athlete became almost teary.
His lips quivering and eyes reddening, he discussed how he broke the news of his blatant lying about his prolonged use of performance enhancing drugs to his son..
Winfrey then switched the questioning to whether Armstrong was in therapy. She sounded triumphant when Armstrong confirmed he was. This sequence of questions got to the heart of what Winfrey is all about.
She poses as a sort of goddess mother-confessor to the nation. Her new age sensibilities are designed to remove guilt and consequences from American celebrities who have behaved in a sleazy, greedy and unacceptable manner.
All the shamed celebrities have to do is confess to Winfrey (and especially this, rating after all is the point of the interview), apologise (sort of) to everyone they have offended, confirm that they are in therapy and then get the Winfrey benediction.
So it was part of the con inherent in the interview that Winfrey did not follow up on questions and answers which cried out for a sequence of informed and pointed questioning.
Armstrong confirmed, for example, that there were others who ‘knew the full story.’
But who are these others? Winfrey passed immediately to another series of questions that were related to ‘how did you feel’ notions and allowed Armstrong the chance, which was quickly taken, of getting out of a line of questioning that may have produced some useful information.
There was no probing of Armstrong’s alleged complicity with the International Cycling Union (UCI), the authority that runs cycling worldwide. Nor was there probing on the doctors and the facilitators who allegedly provided the drugs and machines that allowed the intensive dope-taking exercise to continue for so long.
The end of the interview, which concluded with an existential whimper rather than with the bang of a real confession, gave away the reckless and stupid game Winfrey was playing.
Armstrong was asked what was the moral of his journey through the doping, the lies, seven Tour de France victories, the splenetic and vicious attacks on friends and journalists determined to expose the truth about a vindictive control-freak inflated with hubris and an obsession to win everything no matter what the cost was to his sport, cycling.
When he baulked at the idiotic question, Winfrey provided her own and equally idiotic answer: “The truth will set you free.”
I have deliberately used the word ‘idiotic’ to describe the question and the answer because the one thing the two-part interview had not concerned itself with was the truth.
Winfrey’s mission was to get her ‘leap on the couch’ moment. Armstrong’s mission was to build his defences against the inevitable court actions and investigations that are going to follow his qualified coming out on his dope-taking practices.
And these defences were constructed and laid out with all the cunning and control-freak manipulation of his past attacks on his opponents.
Yes, all seven Tour de France victories involved dope-taking on his part, he conceded. But, or more appropriately BUT, everyone else was using performance-enhancing drugs, so what he did was really not cheating, according to the dictionary meaning of the word. He was not so much taking unfair advantage of his opponents as just doing what they were doing, too.
Truth be known (and this is parsing Armstrong’s ‘reasoning’), he was less culpable than the others because he was using much lower quantities of the dope than they were.
A perceptive friend sent me an email that sums this up: ‘Armstrong does not see himself as guilty. He sees himself as a victim: the first time it was cancer, second time he is a “victim” of a drug culture.’
Winfrey let this nonsense be put forward without requiring an explanation from Armstrong and without pointing out this was illegal behaviour and that there were members of his own team who refused to take part in the performance enhancing circus.
Having admitted that yes he and all the other cyclists were using banned performance-enhancing drugs during his greatest days, Armstrong then went on to argue that in his comeback to the Tour de France in 2009 and 2010 he didn’t use drugs.
He dismissed findings to the contrary, which had a one-in-a-million chance of being wrong, as being wrong.
This is an important denial on Armstrong’s part, for it relates to his contentious claim he ‘deserves’ to be allowed to compete again despite the life-time ban placed on him by the US Anti-Doping Agency.
Armstrong’s argument to Winfrey (which was not contested as it should have been) is that other cyclists received six month bans for taking illegal drugs while he has been banned for life. “It’s a death penalty,” he asserted.
Dozens of well-paid lawyers are working away right now, no doubt, on establishing the unfairness of Armstrong’s treatment and getting the authorities to accept his apologies and the fact he has lost millions of dollars in sponsorships.
Having accepted this argument, it is only a small jump for the authorities to say he has paid a full price for his sins and Armstrong is, as they say, on his bike once again.
This is where the denial of doping in his comeback is important. If he used performance-enhancing drugs when most of the other riders did not, then there is no comeback for Armstrong. So we get the denial, despite the evidence.
In any court case on this point, Armstrong has set himself up for this sort of defence.
Question: ‘Tests show you used performance enhancing drugs in your comeback.’
Answer: ‘The tests did not show this. They showed that there was a one-in-million chance that I did not use the drugs. I claim this possibility and assert I did not use the drugs. Can you claim definitely from these tests that I did use the drugs? You cannot. And I claim I didn’t.’
Armstrong was equally evasive or well-briefed by his lawyers in setting up defences against the many people who might want to sue him defamation or might want to recover monies he has taken from them in defamation actions.
He denied Betsy Andreu’s claim, for instance, he revealed to his doctors treating him for cancer he had use performance-enhancing drugs. Presumably, the doctors are bound to a code of confidentiality and it is Armstrong’s word against hers if the matter comes before a court.
Winfrey did ask Armstrong whether he would apologise to The Sunday Times crusading journalist David Walsh whose paper Armstrong successfully sued for stating (correctly as it happens) that he’d used illegal performance-enhancing drugs and practices in his Tour de France victories.
Armstrong was grudging in his response: “I’d apologise to David Walsh.”
Again Winfrey just allowed this response to go unchallenged. Why didn’t she point out that as apologies go, this was far from convincing? And, more importantly, what did he intend to do to restore the harm done by him to Walsh’s reputation, as well as the financial cost to him and his newspaper?
The Sunday Times says it is deciding on whether it can retrieve its costs and the payout to Armstrong. I’m hoping they sue him to malicious defamation and send out a message to Armstrong and all the other people involved with sports, the stars and the management who continually put journalists under defamation pressure even when they are telling the truth, that we’ve had enough and we aren’t going to cop it anymore.
An action by The Sunday Times (actually by David Walsh and supported by the Times) for Armstrong’s defamation of Walsh by taking him to court for accurately reporting his illegal practices would strike a magnificent blow for media freedom if the courts imposed a very large pay-out in favour of Walsh.
Let’s get real about all this Oprah-Lance business.
For Winfrey interviews like this are all about trying to regain her status as the mother-confessor of the United States. This is a cynical and, in the case of a great sport like cycling, a destructive thing to do.
Cycling needs Armstrong out for life. He needs to be punished essentially forever for trashing his sport, and for trying to destroy people who saw what he was doing and had the courage to try expose him.
The death penalty, as he calls it, is what he now has. It is what he deserves, and more.
It must be maintained by the authorities, despite all the expensive spin he and Oprah have invested in trying to set him free.
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Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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January 21st 2013 @ 7:53am
Spiro Zavos said | January 21st 2013 @ 7:53am | Report comment
‘ … so what he did was NOT really cheating …’ This attempt at the semantics of cheating is rather like bill Clinton’s efforts to parse was the word ‘is’ is. The point with Armstrong is that he is laying the groundwork for a defence of his actions in the courts.
January 21st 2013 @ 9:14am
Bondy said | January 21st 2013 @ 9:14am | Report comment
What I would like to see is Armstrong in the dock with that Doctor and Betsy all of who’m were in the room and then we’ve got him on toast,knowing the yanks legally this wont end here.
Why does she get the interview I understand she’s got a quid but she’s more synonumous with losing and gaining weight and saving whales, and she never really led the witness so to speak “became engrossed in Armstrongs fantasy” to lead or spill.
Interesting that email you recieved spiro from your mate Armstrong the victim of systemic doping “I didn’t start it ” thats how he walks the streets now.
In the wash up of Armstrong I dont think i’ve witnessed a person so engrossed in themselves as him, i’d like to see him do a two year stretch personally,that may also help the systemic nature to the sport as well.
January 21st 2013 @ 9:19am
sheek said | January 21st 2013 @ 9:19am | Report comment
Spot on Spiro. The sooner we forget this interview, the better.
As Rath points out in his post elsewhere, the real hero was science. It was science that exposed Lance Armstrong. More credit to science.
January 21st 2013 @ 9:26am
Harry said | January 21st 2013 @ 9:26am | Report comment
Look who is now advising Armstrong for the clear intentions of the disgustingly cyncial approach. His responses to the Walsh and Andreu questions are revolting.
I hope he is relentlessly pursued in the courts for his actions, and apart from that, we never hear from him again.
Agree with the sentiments in your spray about the (over)use by powerful figues in sport of defamation actions/threats to silence critics. However on the local patch I can’t recall you speaking up so strongly about a certain recently departed CEO who is notorious for going down that route.
January 21st 2013 @ 9:58am
Lamby said | January 21st 2013 @ 9:58am | Report comment
“He denied Betsy Andreu’s claim, for instance, he revealed to his doctors treating him for cancer he had use performance-enhancing drugs. Presumably, the doctors are bound to a code of confidentiality and it is Armstrong’s word against hers if the matter comes before a court.”
My take on this is that he cannot say that was true as it would put the practicing certificate of the first “Lance Armstrong Foundation Professor of Oncology” in jeopardy! About the same time that Betsy Andreu made the claims about the drug taking statements with the Doctor in the room, Lance made a donation to the doctor involved and set up the Lance Armstrong Foundation Professor of Oncology, of course, it was just co-incidence, he was making a donation to the doctor and hospital that saved his life!
January 21st 2013 @ 10:41am
Bondy said | January 21st 2013 @ 10:41am | Report comment
Lamby,
Theres the rub hey,good old donations .
January 21st 2013 @ 10:21am
Farmer said | January 21st 2013 @ 10:21am | Report comment
A few observations:
The controlling nature of Armstrong was still very much evident. He was only telling what he wanted and Oprah was part of the circus in her mother confessor role. Let’s hope all those he has bullied, sued and taken money from, have their day in court where he will find it more difficult to avoid the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Secondly, the UCI MUST have known all of this was going on for the the last 15 years and essentially did nothing about it and possibly colluded with and covered it up. The UCI are now hoping to slide through this unscathed – “it was all Armstrong’s doing” and live to fight another day.
How can this sport have any credibility. It is rotton from the top down.
Cheers
January 21st 2013 @ 11:23am
bill said | January 21st 2013 @ 11:23am | Report comment
I’m sorry – but what exactly did Lance do the sport that for example – George Hincapie didn’t do? people keep saying lance hurt cyclign – no, the generation of them hurt cycling (well established before he came along – barne riis for example). What Lance did was popularise the sport in the main stream – are you saying that if cycling had jsut stayed a small time European sport then the fact that they all cheated for so long was allright?
Personally i’m disgusted and am a fairly big fan (have travelled to france and followed the tour for 21 days) was planning on going this year but now cant decide if I believe that Wiggens and Froome could have been quite that much better… not sure that that’s Armstrong’s fault or cyclings fault – but surely the current vitriol against 1 individual in an entire sport is OTT?
January 21st 2013 @ 12:57pm
Shrek said | January 21st 2013 @ 12:57pm | Report comment
Armstrong specifically aimed to be viewed as the greatest rider in the world, achieved feats that no (?) other cyclist ever has, an as a result received incredible recognition and earnings.
With this as background, he aggressively denies cheating for 15 years, and then uses his incredible populatority as a platform to vindicatively ostracise both those who specifically called him a drug cheat and those who claimed that drug use was rife in cycling.
Just because others use drugs, doesn’t absolve Lance of a) responsibility gained as a result of his privileged position in the soprt; and b) being the most public and high proile denier – and for these reasons I think he hurt the sport more than other rider.
January 21st 2013 @ 11:51am
Bondy said | January 21st 2013 @ 11:51am | Report comment
One thing that rarely gets mentioned is that most Austalians have never really genuinely put it to most Australian cyclists are you on the gear,it just appears to me the Australian mentallity is they “take drugs” we dont,and dont ask questions about our own why not?.
Most of our blokes have had cycling careers longer than ten years and never have been barred banned or suspended at least none of the bigger names.
Dont tell me some kid from the ais got banned three years ago he’s a neville never heared of him.
January 21st 2013 @ 11:58am
Dublin Dave said | January 21st 2013 @ 11:58am | Report comment
Is it true that a library in Manly Australia has put up a notice saying that henceforth its collection of books by Lance Armstrong, including “The Lance Armstrong Performance Program” and “Lance Armstrong: the World’s Greatest Champion” will be found in its Fiction section?
Nice touch
January 21st 2013 @ 1:58pm
jameswm said | January 21st 2013 @ 1:58pm | Report comment
Yes true Dave. Manly library, nice beach there too.
January 21st 2013 @ 12:27pm
Beardan said | January 21st 2013 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
Here we have another overnight pshchology expert who wants to tell us exactly why Lance did this and why he is only sort of sorry. At least the bloke came out and finally confessed. You seem to want your half a pound of flesh as well. Armstrong only owes those who he conned and sued more than an apology. If you were gullible enough to buy his books or shirts or believe his stories than you got what you deserved, to be embarrassed like you have been. People like this jibberer Spiro, who is now an overnight psychology expert in body language probably fell for this blokes lies and deceit in the first place. Now they want to kick him whilst he is down.
January 21st 2013 @ 12:39pm
MadMonk said | January 21st 2013 @ 12:39pm | Report comment
Great contribution Bearden. Unfortunately I missed your point.
You say “Armstrong owes those who he conned and sued more than an apology.” I saw no evidence that this was likely to happen anytime soon.
January 21st 2013 @ 12:42pm
Beardan said | January 21st 2013 @ 12:42pm | Report comment
Give yourself a triple MadMonk. You must have missed the quote when he said ‘when they are ready he will apolojise’. Also that should be done behind closed doors, not for you or any other Johnny come lately pshycology expert to get their nose into something that isnt their business.
January 21st 2013 @ 1:35pm
Pot Stirrer said | January 21st 2013 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
Give your self a 1,2,3 combination. As far as Cheating/Fraudulent behaviour to get financial gain and fame is concerned, It doesnt get any worse. Seriously becuase hes said sorry for getting caught you want to forget what he has done. The Petulance to tweet a picture of himself on that lounge with the guernseys in the background is that of a complete socia path who lacks the copacity to feel remorse or have a concsious. This bloke will not be transformed, he will fade away as he should becuase he no longer as any power over anything or anyone.
January 21st 2013 @ 2:20pm
Beardan said | January 21st 2013 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
He admitted the tweet was a mistake and of course you cant forget about the cheating and cover ups. Thats obvious. But you are nothing but yet another overnight psycology expert if you want to say he wont be transformed blah blah blah. Not sure how you and the thousands of others became overnight experts after watching 2 and a half hours of Oprah and Lance have a chat.
January 21st 2013 @ 2:28pm
Pot Stirrer said | January 21st 2013 @ 2:28pm | Report comment
With the Pressure he was under the Timing of that tweet should tell you everythinhg about a bloke as intelligent as him. Hes a Narcist, he admitted to that. I dont pretend to be anysort of psycoligist but just stop and imagine for a minute what he had to do to get to where he did. For me its mind boggling to think about how ruthless and calculating he had to be in perpetrating this false image.
January 21st 2013 @ 1:32pm
kid said | January 21st 2013 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
“If you were gullible enough to buy his books or shirts or believe his stories than you got what you deserved”..hmm I think someone needs to google the word fraud?
January 21st 2013 @ 2:01pm
jameswm said | January 21st 2013 @ 2:01pm | Report comment
You call others gullible, Beardon, but still claim Lance has “finally confessed”. He’s confessed to little bits, on his terms, and lied about others.
Only a gullible person would call that a confession, wouldn’t you say?
January 21st 2013 @ 2:21pm
Beardan said | January 21st 2013 @ 2:21pm | Report comment
or someone looking at the glass half full and not half empty
January 21st 2013 @ 4:40pm
Darwin Stubbie said | January 21st 2013 @ 4:40pm | Report comment
Finally someone with a bit of persepective …. the witch hunt will continue for those who are so shallow that they want the bloke hung, drawn and quartered but the relentless articles by the SZ of this world that are half ar$red at best are actually making me almost a fan of LA – where I couldn’t give toss either way previously …
January 21st 2013 @ 4:55pm
Pot Stirrer said | January 21st 2013 @ 4:55pm | Report comment
Do you even know what the term witch hunt means? It would wonly be a witch hunt if it wasnt true or you lack the intelligence to comprehend the magnitude of what he has done. Which by the way is not so much the actual drug taking, its every thing else hes done to conceal it.
January 21st 2013 @ 5:30pm
Darwin Stubbie said | January 21st 2013 @ 5:30pm | Report comment
Rubbish – magnitude of what he’s done – give it a rest – he is a drug cheat – not the first not the last … obviously better at it than most and bullied his way through life over the last decade or so and conned cash on way his through – although I’m sure his sponsors did pretty nicely out of the deal during that period ….
But when you can click on this site and can find a comment in some of the other numerous articles comparing him to Jimmy Saville or hound him for everything he has or send him inside for decent stretch – I believe the masses have lost touch with perspective … But you’re obviously so far more intelligent than me – so go ahead and lecture away from that high horse you seem to be on
January 21st 2013 @ 9:15pm
Beardan said | January 21st 2013 @ 9:15pm | Report comment
Thank goodness for you Darwin Stubbie. Ive found the only other person in the world who realises that the disgraceful reaction from Mr Joe ‘Ive never made a mistake before’ Public is almost as bad as Armstrongs mistakes. You are exactly right. He stuffed up and bullied people. His behavior was very poor. He needs a punishment but he doesnt need every drop kick on their high horse (as you accurately put it) kicking him whilst he is down. What a disgrace these overnight experts all are.
January 22nd 2013 @ 2:17pm
Pot Stirrer said | January 22nd 2013 @ 2:17pm | Report comment
seriously, your calling it a mistake? No wonder you dont get it
January 22nd 2013 @ 2:29pm
Pot Stirrer said | January 22nd 2013 @ 2:29pm | Report comment
Not claiming to be more intelligent if thats how i make you feel. My point which you dont get is this.
LA, i want to be a world champion and i am going to cheat lie black mail my way to the top.
There are hundreds of millions of dollars to be made from sponsors endorsements and il just set up a charity and poor millions through it so that i am untouchable when and if they figure it out. Anybody trys to take me down im going to destroy them before they can do anything. I love being idolised by the masses.