Can Australia really win the Ashes?
By aggregated drupe, 23 Jan 2013 aggregated drupe is a Roar Pro
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All of the current Tests, one-day internationals and Twenty20 internationals are just the lead up to the greatest cricket series in the world, the Ashes.
Right now England look the favourites with their settled line-up and world-class captain, Alastair Cook. To have any chance of winning Australia will have to not let Cook get truly away.
The first thing we need to get right is a settled squad that will be able to perform in England. I believe we need six pace bowlers, two spin bowlers, two wicketkeepers and seven batsmen in a 17-man squad.
First come the openers. There are three main contenders for these two spots (assuming Phil Hughes stays at 3), those being: Shane Watson, Ed Cowan and David Warner.
I believe that Warner is a must; he has refined his technique to suit the five-day game and he is now much more consistent and one of our finest batsmen. This leaves the other spot for one of Watson or Cowan.
When Cowan first came on to the scene he was touted as a great partner for the explosive Warner, having an extremely defensive game himself. He is an old-fashioned opener taking the shine off the new ball.
To me he has only looked the real deal when trying to attack the bad balls as well as defending. He was notably attacking when he scored his only Test century against South Africa.
I believe that Warner should be partnered with Watson. Watson is an experienced player and has played much better when in his favoured opening spot. His average is better than Cowan’s at Test and first-class level. Yes, he gets injured, but he has stopped bowling now and that will help.
Now for the three and four spots which are between Phil Hughes, Usman Khawaja, and Michael Clarke. I believe that Clarke should be at five so more about him later.
Hughes is my number three. He has refined his technique and is now much more capable on the on side. He has had a great summer and being young is going to be one of our most important batters in the future.
The same goes for Khawaja; he can really knuckle down and work for runs as he showed against Tasmania earlier this summer. He is one of our most impressive young batters and has worked on his fielding and running between wickets.
The contenders for numbers five and six are Clarke, David Hussey, George Bailey and Glenn Maxwell.
Clarke is the definite number five because he is Michael Clarke.
Maxwell is probably our best all rounder at the moment (Shane Watson has stooped bowling), but all rounders are a luxury and the question needs to be asked, are you one of the best six batsmen or best four bowlers in the country? For Maxwell the answer is no, so he is out.
David Hussey is one of the most unlucky cricketers in Australia. He should have been put in when the legends retired, in my opinion. He is now in the twilight of his career and averaging 17 this season, so probably doesn’t deserve to be picked.
That means that the number six spot goes to Bailey. He is Australia’s Twenty20 captain (although he doesn’t deserve to be) and is a regular face in the Australian limited overs camp. He is our most impressive middle order batsmen at the moment and deserves to be a Test player.
The wicket keeping spot goes to Matt Wade. His keeping has been criticised but Haddin’s isn’t much better. He is also an outstanding batsmen and probably deserves to be there on that alone.
My three pace bowlers are Pattinson, Siddle and Bird.
Siddle is the leader of the attack and is the second name on the team-sheet. He has been consistently successful and is a menacing bowler.
Pattinson swings the ball late at an outstanding pace and is scary to face. He will only improve and will be one of the best bowlers in the world when he is older. He just has to get over his injury worries.
Bird has only played two Tests but was great in both. He is not as fat as the others but continuously puts the ball in the right spot and troubles the batsmen.
The spin spot has to go to Nathan Lyon. Being South Australian he is one of my favourite players. Everyone looks for him to rip through teams like Warne but no one will ever be as good as Warne was.
Lyon has a very good record and I don’t see what the fuss about him is. He will have a good Indian series.
This leaves me with this squad:
1.Warner
2.Watson
3.Hughes
4.Khawaja
5.Clarke
6.Bailey
7.Wade
8.Pattinson
9.Siddle
10.Lyon
11.Bird
Subs:
Starc
Johnson
Hilfenhaus
Doolan/Burns (depending on form)
Paine
Beer
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January 23rd 2013 @ 3:47am
Johnno said | January 23rd 2013 @ 3:47am | Report comment
You nailed it, you roar rookie. But there is one man who will not bow down to the selectors it;s not his nature., but he will do everything to impress them.
Yes you guessed it Brad Hodge, he is seriously considering coming back to shield cricket inspired by his big bash form.
http://www.sportal.com.au/cricket-news-display/hodge-ashes-bid-cant-hurt-218742
I’d love to see Brad Hodge 38 yrs of age but still full of energy, be the rock of this aussy team’s top 6. And he has the potential to be. A classy Big bash series just complete.
-A double hundred then amazingly dropped for scoring after scoring a double hundred. 6 tests with an average of 55.88, Hodge big bash form was outstanding give Brad Hodge a run,.
Bailey I don’t have much confidence in. I think Andrew Mcdonald is injured and not sur eif he will be fit for the tour. A fit Andrew Mcdonald i would bring in at no 6. A better batter now, and he really ties an end up well and can take wickets.
Watto won’t bowl anymore, and think he should be moved to opener. He naturally bats well as an opener. He did well vs Flintoff , and Stuart Broad and Anderson in 2009, making useful 50′s, and eyeing of the new ball.
January 23rd 2013 @ 5:39am
Red Kev said | January 23rd 2013 @ 5:39am | Report comment
Hodge hasn’t played first class cricket since 2009 – hit and giggle BBL does not make you ready for test matches. It is just plain arrogant for him to talk about being in the Ashes squad and ridiculous for anyone to think he is deserving of selection. Hodge was certainly dealt with poorly in his time, but he is no longer a relevant factor.
January 23rd 2013 @ 7:03am
Atawhai Drive said | January 23rd 2013 @ 7:03am | Report comment
Hodge’s ‘comeback’ seems inexplicable.
Does he really think he can be a contender again? If so, he may be as deluded as Shane Warne, who also floated the possibility of a return to Test cricket (and who was taken seriously in some quarters). Hodge appears to be setting himself up for another round of disappointment.
Or is he? Venturing into the outer reaches of conspiracy theory, has he been tipped the wink by the selectors and told to put himself back in the frame with some runs in the Shield?
A nation waits . . .
January 23rd 2013 @ 1:41pm
sheek said | January 23rd 2013 @ 1:41pm | Report comment
AD,
There is one reason why a return to test ranks by Hodge isn’t completely crazy.
And that’s the lack of depth in Australian first class cricket. Although I doubt it will have much legs, just like the Warne suggestion.
It was precisely the same with Warne. If he made himself available for test selection, he would bowl the pants of Lyon & every other spinner in Australia.
This is why we can crazily talk about Hodge, or previously Warne. It’s a sad indictment on the standard of Australian first class cricket.
January 23rd 2013 @ 1:44pm
Red Kev said | January 23rd 2013 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
I’m not sure they could at that age sheek. I think bowling 4 overs in the BBL is a long way from bowling a 10 over spell in a test match and fielding in the heat of the day. Warnie retired from long form cricket in 2007, Hodge in 2009 – they wouldn’t have the endurance (mental or physical) to compete in my opinion.
January 23rd 2013 @ 10:18am
Jake said | January 23rd 2013 @ 10:18am | Report comment
Bringing Siddle & Pattinsons waist line in to the calculations was a bit out there by the author…….
January 23rd 2013 @ 10:59am
rl said | January 23rd 2013 @ 10:59am | Report comment
Bird is deceptively fat…
January 23rd 2013 @ 11:56am
Red Kev said | January 23rd 2013 @ 11:56am | Report comment
It took me a while to notice the typo you two are talking about, and now it is funny.
January 23rd 2013 @ 12:17pm
Mango Jack said | January 23rd 2013 @ 12:17pm | Report comment
Took me a little while to work that out as well. I was wondering how a bloke gets fat eating only bird seed.
January 23rd 2013 @ 1:02pm
jameswm said | January 23rd 2013 @ 1:02pm | Report comment
…and not drinking!
January 23rd 2013 @ 6:35pm
Sunil said | January 23rd 2013 @ 6:35pm | Report comment
Fantastic article and I really like the team listed, uzi will be very important in the ashes as he handles swing bowling well something which is in high demand right now
January 23rd 2013 @ 6:04am
peeeko said | January 23rd 2013 @ 6:04am | Report comment
i think we need a better number 6 then Bailey, not sure who though?
January 23rd 2013 @ 7:21am
Rabbitz said | January 23rd 2013 @ 7:21am | Report comment
Regardless of the squad, if the English can swing the ball more than an inch (in their parlance) then it is all over for Australia.
Oh and if they need to rely on Johnson, then it is over before it starts, exactly how many flat, green, bouncy wickets are they likely to see?
January 23rd 2013 @ 6:37pm
Sunil said | January 23rd 2013 @ 6:37pm | Report comment
That’s why khawaja is so important because he handles swing very well
January 23rd 2013 @ 7:53am
adsa said | January 23rd 2013 @ 7:53am | Report comment
Lyon will be carted to all points of the grounds in India, so the back up spinner to him will be important. Lyon may struggle to take tail end wickets in India.
January 23rd 2013 @ 7:59am
aggregated drupe said | January 23rd 2013 @ 7:59am | Report comment
Lyon is a good spinner. It is just hard to spin the bowl on australian wickets. He has done well in the subcontinent.
January 23rd 2013 @ 7:54am
Jason said | January 23rd 2013 @ 7:54am | Report comment
No.
January 23rd 2013 @ 8:05am
Cameron said | January 23rd 2013 @ 8:05am | Report comment
Why?
January 23rd 2013 @ 8:17am
Red Kev said | January 23rd 2013 @ 8:17am | Report comment
I would say the short answer is “because the English are better than us”.
January 23rd 2013 @ 2:52pm
Rob from Brumby Country said | January 23rd 2013 @ 2:52pm | Report comment
Care to qualify that, RK? With evidence rather than conjecture?
January 23rd 2013 @ 12:53pm
Jason said | January 23rd 2013 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
See John 360180′s post below. Pretty much exactly my thoughts.
January 23rd 2013 @ 8:32am
jamesb said | January 23rd 2013 @ 8:32am | Report comment
England will be HOT HOT HOT favourites to win.
Australia doesn’t have the batting depth or a spinner that could spin out the opposition on days 4 or 5. Australia could go toe to toe with England with our fast bowlers, and that is Australia’s only hope.
But questions need to be asked at Cricket Australia as to why we are not developing good quality batsman and spinners. Australia’s team for the Ashes does appear to be weak.
Responsibilty should fall on James Sutherland. He is the boss of CA, and ATM he is overseeing an ordinary Australian side. Don;t you think Sutherland should fall by the wayside.
January 23rd 2013 @ 9:10am
buddha9 said | January 23rd 2013 @ 9:10am | Report comment
sorry folks aussies way off the pace and going down 2 or 3 to 1 — can’t handle swinging ball can’t bowl england out
as for warner — english bowlers are lying awake praying they pick him and hughes too — you can make a career on getting those two bunnies out — the aussie selectors haven’t got a clue and this ‘expert’ hasn’t either if this team is any guide — england batting too experienced too strong too disciplined and their bowling attack too flexible , too clever and too disciplined.
Siddle is a joke against a good test batting line up — ditto hilfenhause — lyons verses swann, pardon? Half the attack is already injured or about to be and there’s only one real test batsman clarke watson can’t score a hundred and against this team 70 won ‘t do Hussey retiring is a big big blow
natural Australian optimism will only take you so far — 3-1
Really people i don’t know what you’re smoking but i’ll have some!
January 23rd 2013 @ 9:28am
aggregated drupe said | January 23rd 2013 @ 9:28am | Report comment
Warner has improved a lot recently ditto Hughes. They are a lot more consistent now.
Siddle is Australia’s best bowler at the moment. I didn’t pick Hilfenhaus in my first team and at least he can swing it.
I never compared Lyon with Swann. Swann is a better bowler but Lyon is improving greatly.
2-1 to England in England. 3-2 to Australia in Australia.
January 23rd 2013 @ 9:40am
Happy Hooker said | January 23rd 2013 @ 9:40am | Report comment
You’re tipping 2 draws in England? England will win at least 3 tests at home.
January 23rd 2013 @ 12:44pm
Timmuh said | January 23rd 2013 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
Its England, there has to be a good chance of two wash-outs.
I can perhaps see Australia winning at the Oval, and that is it. Depending on weather, luck, improvement, form, etc, my early tip is anything from 5-0 to 2-1 England’s way.
In Australia, assuming the red ball behaves the same next summer as this one and there is virtually zero swing, it could go either way.
January 24th 2013 @ 1:59am
buddha9 said | January 24th 2013 @ 1:59am | Report comment
Aggregated dupe sorry my friend but you don’t know what you are talking about — Warner has not got the technique or the character to play test against sides who really know how to play test cricket — not talking about custard pie teams like shri lanka, its easy to build up your stats against them I’m talking about test cricket against the only 2 teams who still know how to play it : england and SA (ok india in india) nor has hughes — your claim that aust will win 3 in australia is laughable and shows that u don’t know what test cricket or what it requires.
Nothing beats experience in test cricket — experience of playing tough cricket for 5 days ( and don’t be dumb enough to say tests don’t last 5 days anymore) experience in hanging in there when session after session goes against you — its an arm wrestle and the english know how to do it and this aussie team don’t — that’s the first reason they won’t win —
second reason — technique – warner hughes both of them won’t score a 100 in how many tests they last in england — the first 4 batsmen have to be clarke watson ( who I have doubts about but he does know what tests require) Ussmin K and cowen — these 4 at least have the technique and the guts to play slow and tough it out for sessions – Usmin showed that against england last tour — there are no other batsmen in oz who i’ve seen who can do this or have the technique — a much better more experienced side than this went to england in 2005 and got comprehensively beaten — against that england have cook trott and petterson plus bell who would walk into the australian team and even though he’s struggling now is a proven performer plus prior whats more root birstow are both very tough competitors with good techniques and crompton looks like the business as an opener.
Australia haven’t got the batting to come anywhere close to that
Bowling wise the english have not only their usual attack but also Tremlett who they are nursing back to fitness specifically for the ashes (like they did Jones) esp the aussie leg; Onions who is almost as good as anderson in english conditions plus bresnan anderson and finn who is a vastly improved quick — these are test match bowlers proven at the highest level — and then you have swann and monty who have just bowled out India in india — broad is faltering but has a habit of turning it on just when youre about to write him off
what have australia got ? Siddle a big hearted limited bowler who struggled to bowl out SL in hobert — i watched the test in perth ( australia’s favourite wicket) and not one aussie bowler swung a ball the entire game — stark looks the best prospect but he is a prospect not an experienced test bowler — five day bowling on a test wicket is a specialised art which needs experience — the team has to bowl in a disciplined manner to a set plan for long periods — the aussie attack can’t do that, they proved it in Perth — Lyon is a run of the mill spinner who the pommies will milk all day long — he bowls too flat and too fast
I don’t know why i need to tell you this — you can see what I can see – clearly you don’t know what you’re looking for – so
It doesn’t really matter in one sense who the aussie selectors pick, the players simply aren’t there — their best hope is that they pick a settled eleven and hope that after tests in india england and australia they develop as a team, toughen up and get experience — but hughes warner lyon and siddle is the way to heart break city and no matter how hard they try they will not produce what is required — I can guareentee it. and no amount of wishful thinking will make it so.
January 24th 2013 @ 11:02am
aggregated drupe said | January 24th 2013 @ 11:02am | Report comment
Warner just got a century against South Africa so he can perform against quality opposition. Hughes hit two centuries in the same test against South Africa and he has gotten better since then.
Who is so experienced to put in? You need to offer alternatives. You said that Cowan should play. He has a lower average than anyone else in my team and only makes starts. He has gone on once from a start. He doesn’t deserve to play.
Australia’s pace bowlers are better than england’s check the stats for proof. Our pace bowlers were the best in 2012 than anyone except for Philander and how did England go when they played him?
Lyon is the youngest australian off spinner to 50 wickets. He is doing better than Richie Benaud was at this stage of his career.
Siddle is our best bowler and is doing very well at the moment.
January 26th 2013 @ 10:41pm
Dean said | January 26th 2013 @ 10:41pm | Report comment
Khawja and Clarke have the best techniques out of all the batsman in Australia but Warner and Hughes know how to score.
January 23rd 2013 @ 12:21pm
Mango Jack said | January 23rd 2013 @ 12:21pm | Report comment
So who would you pick Buddha? All very well to say the selectors have no idea, but you need to justify that by offering alternatives.
January 24th 2013 @ 8:58am
buddha9 said | January 24th 2013 @ 8:58am | Report comment
mago see comment above –
January 23rd 2013 @ 9:40am
TheGenuineTailender said | January 23rd 2013 @ 9:40am | Report comment
I think you’re pretty much spot on. My one point would be that I’m yet to be completely sold on Baily.
January 23rd 2013 @ 9:52am
boes said | January 23rd 2013 @ 9:52am | Report comment
I expect Cowan will be selected for India – his performance there will go a long way to determine whether he will start in the Ashes.
I would add him to the XI you named above and think he will be fighting for 2 spots with Watson and Bailey, who the selectors obviously rate.
If Australia are serious about developing Maxwell they should encourage him to get a county stint somewhere. He’s not ready for test cricket.
January 23rd 2013 @ 12:37pm
TheGenuineTailender said | January 23rd 2013 @ 12:37pm | Report comment
I hope he fails miserably in India and we can move on from the Cowan experiment sooner rather than later.
January 23rd 2013 @ 1:17pm
boes said | January 23rd 2013 @ 1:17pm | Report comment
I am still undecided on Cowan – if I recall he played well in the Aus A tour in England last year. A good series in India could see him gain some confidence and might be useful in English conditions this time around.
If he fails I am still not 100% convinced Watson is the solution.
January 23rd 2013 @ 6:40pm
Sunil said | January 23rd 2013 @ 6:40pm | Report comment
Agreed maxwell is not ready yet for test cricket, take khawaja as the number 6 and Doherty as the backup spinner given beer and holland are injured
January 23rd 2013 @ 9:58am
The no. Three said | January 23rd 2013 @ 9:58am | Report comment
Just leave HIlfenhaus out and put a reserve opener in for when Watson Does get injured. He will find a way, he will trip over at training.
Pick Cowan as cover. Good squad cobba.