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    Test great Shane Warne on Wednesday called for Australia’s coach Mickey Arthur to be replaced by former New Zealand skipper Stephen Fleming.

    Warne, who earlier this week said on Twitter that Cricket Australia’s (CA’s) selection policy had become a joke, has also called for a new-look selection panel.

    The champion legspinner says Arthur, Andy Bichel and chairman of selectors John Inverarity should be replaced by Warne’s ex-teammates Damien Martyn, Mark Waugh and Glenn McGrath.

    Warne says the coach shouldn’t be a selector, but the skipper should be. Which means captain Michael Clarke would form part of a five-man panel including current selector Rod Marsh in Warne’s world.

    Marsh would be promoted to chairman of selectors.

    Warne, 43, also wants his former Test skipper Mark Taylor to take over as CA’s chief executive of cricket.

    “As an emotional, passionate and Australian cricket team supporter (and player) for the best part of 20 years (a proud one too) I, like many others am frustrated on many levels at present,” Warne said on shanewarne.com.

    “If we do nothing now, we will be where we were 30 years ago. There needs to be urgent action and a new strategy/plan put in place.

    “The current set up is not working, as the results are showing!”

    Australia are ranked third in Tests and one-day internationals and seventh in Twenty20 cricket.

    Warne has made the bizarre claim that the same 11 should play in all three formats.

    “You get to know the person, too much chopping and changing leads to insecurity, players then start to look out for themselves and over their shoulder, this breeds selfishness,” Warne said.

    “It’s also why rotation and resting players will never work.

    “We have the best batsman/captain in world cricket at the moment in Michael Clarke and the spine of a good team with (David) Warner, (Shane) Watson, (Matthew) Wade, (Peter) Siddle and (Nathan) Lyon. The rest of the spots are up for grabs in my opinion.”

    Warne described Fleming as the best opposing captain he encountered in his playing career.

    Warne’s close mate Darren Lehmann, the Queensland coach, would be national assistant coach.

    Ex-players Mike Hussey and Michael Bevan would be batting coaches with Merv Hughes and Bruce Reid in charge of bowling.

    Warne also wants his mate and former Test skipper Ian Chappell as a consultant to the team.

    “All the above people are cricket people, not rugby, tennis or from any other sporting code,” Warne said, in a clear reference to Australia’s high-performance chief Pat Howard who is a former Wallabies rugby international.

    “It’s time to go back to basics. Too many people are justifying their existence.

    “If the following people (listed above) were to fill these roles, then Australian cricket would be in good hands and a great chance of getting back to No.1.”

    Warne plans to discuss his ideas with CA boss James Sutherland in the next few days.

    Warne later attempted to clarify that he wasn’t suggesting the same team should be selected across all three forms of the game.

    “Pick your best team in all forms of the game at all times, not the same for all forms — no rotating or resting, but your best,” he tweeted.

    The full manifesto via Shane Warne’s website:

    Where is Australian cricket at? Part 1 Published by Shane Warne

    As an emotional, passionate and Australian cricket team supporter (and player) for the best part of 20 years (a proud one too) I, like many others am frustrated on many levels at present. The next 12 months is the biggest 12 months of cricket for the Australian cricket team in a long, long time. If we do nothing now, we will be where we were 30 years ago. There needs to be urgent action and a new strategy / plan put in place.

    The current set up is not working, as the results are showing! What are our world rankings in all forms?

    So…

    Selecting of teams

    This is a vey tough gig as everyone in Australia thinks they can pick the best team, it’s a subject that’s discussed in boardrooms, pubs, schools and so on…

    In my view, selecting a player is not based solely on statistics and averages, it can be used as a guide sure, but the objective of a Selector is to look at when players get their runs and wickets, which shows character and a good temperament when under pressure, along with their talent. Then they can trust themselves when making the next step into international cricket. There are many other ingredients that go into selecting a player, but this should be the basis of being selected.

    A simple criteria is pick your best team and stick with it in all forms, then the players get used playing together and being with one another on tour, you get to know the person, too much chopping and changing leads to insecurity, players then start to look out for themselves and over their shoulder, this breeds selfishness. It’s also why rotation and resting players will never work. I believe the players should be united, take ownership of this, it’s a very powerful and strong message to send to CA if the players message is “I do not want to be rested or rotated I want to play every game, if I don’t perform drop me”. If this decision comes from the players then CA have to respect that and follow suit on selection accordingly, this will then mean someone is accountable. In any sport once you have proven to yourself that you are good enough to play at the top level, you know if you perform you will be picked for the next game, that’s when you play at your best as you have confidence and are more relaxed. The team should be selected first, not the captain, the captain will be chosen from the team selected.

    We have the best batsmen / captain in world cricket at the moment in Michael Clarke and the spine of a good team with Warner, Watson, Wade, Siddle and Lyon, the rest of the spots are up for grabs in my opinion. Opportunities for players now are there for the taking.

    The coach should not be a selector as he should be a confidante for the players, the captain should be though. I could go on here for a while….

    So, to my dream team, I could be completely wrong and barking up the wrong tree, but in my opinion if the following people were to fill these roles, then Australian cricket would be in good hands and a great chance of getting back to number 1, as I believe the talent is there in domestic cricket – to have a great Australian team for now and for the future.

    Selectors
    Rod Marsh (Chairman)
    Mark Waugh
    Damian Martyn; and
    Glenn McGrath

    The people who I would put in charge of cricket if available and willing, along with the above selectors (you can give them any title you want) would be:

    CEO of cricket or GM: Mark Taylor

    Boss man, cricket supremo. The coach, captain and support staff are answerable to Tub. Tub is in charge of all things cricket. The reason why I would choose Mark is that he has an understanding from both sides and is a wonderful communicator as well as being very approachable and respected.

    Coach: Stephen Fleming:

    In my time Stephen was the best opposition Captain we played against and seeing what Stephen has done first hand re his coaching roles along with knowing him well personally, I believe he brings alot to the table, a calmness, an intelligent understanding of the game and a very good cricket brain. He’s a good communicator too as well as a good leader of men.

    Assistant Coach: Darren “ Boof “ Lehmann:

    Boof understands the game as good as anyone and has a great outlook on the game, he’s a good balance of old school and what the needs are of the current day player.

    Batting Coach’s: Mike Hussey / Michael Bevan:

    Both respected players and grasp all forms of the game. These guys would be around the team when needed, depending on which form of the game is being played. The coach would liaise with both and give them clarity on when they are required and to be around the group.

    Bowling Coaches: Merv Hughes / Bruce Reid:

    Both have been wonderful players and understand what works and what doesn’t, they also were very clever bowlers and have experience, both have a great attitude and a passion for the game too.

    Consultant: Ian Chappell:

    Be on call as a sounding board for any player to talk to at anytime and be around the group when needed. Chaps has been the biggest influence on my cricketing career and understands the game and people. He’s understanding of the game is second to none. He was a great all-round cricketer and also the best Captain to have ever played the game from any country.

    All the above people are cricket people, not rugby, tennis or from any other sporting code. They all understand the game of cricket, they have lived and breathed the game for a long time and most importantly have the best interests of Australian cricket at heart, along with being super passionate and above all, they just love the game.

    Summary
    Cricket is a simple game; sure it has room and a place for scientific research and current technology, which can help learn about an opponent, but not instead of using your cricket brain, together they can work hand in hand. Technology can help in recovery, but so can sleep and a common sense approach to recovery.

    You cannot re-invent the wheel in cricket, if a player wants to become a better slip fielder, catch more balls, want to get better at bowling a Yorker – practice bowling and hitting a target (Malinga and a shoe) and so on.

    It’s time to go back to basics. Too many people are justifying their existence.
    I will be discussing these points and Part 2 with James Sutherland in the next week.

    I hope this piece opens the floodgates for discussion and a positive outcome. I’m no guru, just a concerned ex cricketer who loves Australian cricket and is passionate about the white floppy hat!

    © AAP 2018

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    • January 31st 2013 @ 6:22am
      AndyMack said | January 31st 2013 @ 6:22am | ! Report

      Interesting to see Martyn, M Waugh and McGrath listed as the selectors he favours. Wonder why they are top billing in his view. I dont have an opinion either way, just interested to know what he has seen in these three guys that would make them good selectors.

      And this concept of not rotating players every match. Sounds good, could catch on……

      • January 31st 2013 @ 7:59am
        Atawhai Drive said | January 31st 2013 @ 7:59am | ! Report

        If nothing else, Warney is loyal to his mates.

      • January 31st 2013 @ 9:43am
        Bunny Colvin said | January 31st 2013 @ 9:43am | ! Report

        Well, we are losing consistently. The Ashes looks to be lost before we even arrive in England and crowds have plummeted due to the public being upset with team selections of nobodies.

        Put Shane Warne in as Chairman of Cricket Australia to oversee these changes.

        Time to wrest cricket back from the politicians and beaureacrats who have trashed the sport to the brink.

        • January 31st 2013 @ 4:05pm
          kid said | January 31st 2013 @ 4:05pm | ! Report

          I don’t know about that BC. Warne wants us to believe only cricketers can administrate the game. Kerry Packer and his staff were not cricketers and they were needed to overcome the mismanagement by the cricketer dominated ACB in the 70’s. Cricket needs to be successful both on and off the field so that necessarilly involves both businessmen and cricketers working together.

    • January 31st 2013 @ 6:48am
      ANON69 said | January 31st 2013 @ 6:48am | ! Report

      “We have the best batsman/captain in world cricket at the moment in Michael Clarke ”

      Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Good One.

      • January 31st 2013 @ 7:05am
        AndyMack said | January 31st 2013 @ 7:05am | ! Report

        i fail to see the joke Anon….

        • January 31st 2013 @ 9:52am
          Australian Rules said | January 31st 2013 @ 9:52am | ! Report

          Ditto. Clarke is clearly performing better than the next best, A.Cook.

        • January 31st 2013 @ 10:29am
          ANON69 said | January 31st 2013 @ 10:29am | ! Report

          Australians are always myopic when it comes to Cricket. All we ( the Asians) hear is that Australian players are the best. Best in the world. I had to mute the commentary from the channel 9. All I hear from them is how good Phil Hughes is when the test matches were on. Phil Hughes is that Phil Hughes is this. Yep, that it was hilarious.

          Yep, most of the Australians fail to see the joke. How many runs did Michael Clarke scored outside of Australia last year?
          How many games did Australians win overseas last year?

          If Wade and Lyon are two that get selected to the team automatically, see what happens in India and England. Let see how swing and spin expose the World’s Best. The only world class batsman you have is Warner. Nobody else.
          There are better captains and Batsmen outside of Australia.

          • January 31st 2013 @ 10:44am
            jameswm said | January 31st 2013 @ 10:44am | ! Report

            So Clarke isn’t a world class batsman? Warner’s the only onewe have?

            Look in the distance, that’s your credibility disappearing…

          • January 31st 2013 @ 11:11am
            Renegade said | January 31st 2013 @ 11:11am | ! Report

            Alright ANON, your obviously having a laugh….seriously warner better than clarke?! That’s the real joke!

          • January 31st 2013 @ 11:22am
            Mango Jack said | January 31st 2013 @ 11:22am | ! Report

            Your first couple of points have some validity, anon, but then you lose all credibility suggesting Clarke is not a world class batsman.

          • January 31st 2013 @ 11:45am
            Jay said | January 31st 2013 @ 11:45am | ! Report

            What was Clarkes average last calendar year?

          • January 31st 2013 @ 11:57am
            Matt said | January 31st 2013 @ 11:57am | ! Report

            Haha, Warner. What’s he averaging these days, 35? Lucky to even be in the team, really.

          • February 2nd 2013 @ 7:17am
            AndyMack said | February 2nd 2013 @ 7:17am | ! Report

            While I agree, we tend to be myopic, the stats clearly show Pup as the worlds best (at the moment)

            And to suggest he is not even world class is surely,as the British say ‘aving a laff’…..

    • January 31st 2013 @ 7:31am
      Beardan said | January 31st 2013 @ 7:31am | ! Report

      Where did Warne say to pick the same players for all three forms? He said pick the best team in all three forms. He made alot of sense, proving there is a first for everything.

      • January 31st 2013 @ 10:26am
        JohnB said | January 31st 2013 @ 10:26am | ! Report

        He was quoted as saying that in the Chloe Saltau report in the SMH today.

        I like the bit in ths article where he says “If we do nothing now, we will be where we were 30 years ago. There needs to be urgent action and a new strategy/plan put in place” given that what he is proposing is to go back to doing things the way they were in the old days.

        Given one of his main beefs seems to be rotation, seems relevant to refer to the most sensible thing I’ve read on this (ie the one I agree with most!) from the SMH yesterday http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/even-lillee-would-need-spell-these-days-says-charlesworth-20130129-2diz8.html
        setting out Rick Charlesworth’s views. I suspect Charlesworth would also be dead against the reject all other expertise in favour of good old boys approach Warne seems to favour.

        • January 31st 2013 @ 11:01am
          JohnB said | January 31st 2013 @ 11:01am | ! Report

          To be fair, I see that he later retracted/clarified the comment about picking the same team in all forms when called on it (much as he tried to get out of the dig at Pat Howard!).

    • January 31st 2013 @ 8:31am
      rl said | January 31st 2013 @ 8:31am | ! Report

      I think the last thing Stephen Fleming needed was Warnie to pump up his tyres. Credibility, meet open window.

    • January 31st 2013 @ 8:35am
      B.A Sports said | January 31st 2013 @ 8:35am | ! Report

      I think his kids are the only ones who missed out on a gig here.

      In summary, Warne’s solution for Australian cricket – Give all his mates jobs.
      Pretty lame from Warne really. Seems to be he made all this noise about Howard and claimed to have a plan but didn’t really so he has just gone through his contacts on his phone – skipped past a few young English lasses – and named his mates in roles that already exist and of course dumped the High Performance role.

      • January 31st 2013 @ 10:17am
        jameswm said | January 31st 2013 @ 10:17am | ! Report

        I think Warnie’s mates would do a better job than most of the incumbents.

      • January 31st 2013 @ 11:25am
        Mango Jack said | January 31st 2013 @ 11:25am | ! Report

        Gold, BA! Surprised he didn’t find a role for Liz.

        • January 31st 2013 @ 1:31pm
          Rhys said | January 31st 2013 @ 1:31pm | ! Report

          Well clearly, Liz would be media liaison, since she always projects a calm demeanor toward them.

    • January 31st 2013 @ 8:43am
      Christo the Daddyo said | January 31st 2013 @ 8:43am | ! Report

      He criticises the Argus report, yet advocates one of its authors (Taylor) as his solution.

      He emphasises players not missing games in order to build up continuity, yet misses games for his own team to fly back to England for Christmas.

      Bizarre…

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