The ICC should tell the Indian board to get stuffed
Columnist By David Lord, 19 Mar 2013 David Lord is a Roar Expert
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Umpire Aleem Dar’s howler in dismissing Australian batsman Phil Hughes leg before yesterday in Mohali was a turning point in the third Test against India.
With no DRS to deny Dar’s major mistake, Hughes was on his way, sawn off for 69.
Had Hughes batted another 10 overs for 15-20 runs, India wouldn’t have had time to score the necessaries, and the Australians would have salvaged an honourable draw.
Which after two floggings by eight wickets, and an innings and 135 runs, would have felt like a win.
Why the ICC, cricket’s governing body, allows India to get away with denying use of the DRS is beyond comprehension.
The ICC should legislate to make the DRS mandatory for all three formats in all countries. And if India holds out, tell them to get stuffed, and ban them from all formats until they comply.
Then we wouldn’t have howlers like Dar yesterday.
So to the fourth and final Test at Delhi starting on Friday. India has never won four Tests in a series in its history, and they have the ammo to fire again at the Australians.
Mixed news from the baggy green camp with Shane Watson returning after his one-match suspension, the subsequent dummy spit, and the birth of his first child.
But a big question mark over skipper Michael Clarke whose dickey back is again causing strife. He was clearly not fit enough to bat yesterday, and Friday isn’t far enough away.
Given Clarke is out of Delhi, Watson assumes the captaincy.
Then the selections become interesting.
No reason to change David Warner and Ed Cowan at the top of the order, but I’d bat Watson at three, with Hughes at four, to split up three lefties in a row, and the higher Watson bats the better he plays.
Bring in Usman Khawaja at five, and retain Steve Smith at six after his gritty 92 at Mohali,
Retain keeper Brad Haddin at seven for two reasons – firstly he’s the better gloveman and better batsman than Matt Wade and secondly Watson will need all the help he can get to lead the side, and Haddin is an experienced first-class captain with NSW.
He was in charge when Clarke left the field for treatment yesterday.
Mitchell Starc is bowling a lot of rubbish, but he is a genuine batsman and deserves to be promoted up the order, as does James Pattinson.
That leaves Peter Siddle at 10, and offie Nathan Lyon, the best of the spinners, at 11.
The batting order if Clarke doesn’t play – Warner, Cowan, Watson, Hughes, Khawaja, Smith, Haddin, Starc, Pattinson, Siddle, and Lyon.
Missing out – Moises Henriques, Mitchell Johnson, Glenn Maxwell, and Xavier Doherty,
If Clarke plays, and it’s a big questionable if, the skipper bats at five and Khawaja misses out. The rest remain as mentioned.
The Australians want to leave India with some pride restored.
It’s Australia’s last chance to stop the rot. They almost did in Mohali which was a big improvement.
Because another loss in Delhi would be simply unacceptable.
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March 19th 2013 @ 3:47am
Rowdy said | March 19th 2013 @ 3:47am | Report comment
Aleem Dar’s probably the best umpire in the game at the moment. And Clarke was the beneficiary of an umpiring mistake – sorry, Howler – early in the first test, obviously caught but not given.
March 19th 2013 @ 7:29am
Kasey said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:29am | Report comment
Doomed to fail ICC = India Controls Cricket. Good luck with the game not stagnating or even going backwards as other sports continue to be dynamic and respond to the changes in global audience desires.
March 19th 2013 @ 12:49pm
Glenn Mitchell said | March 19th 2013 @ 12:49pm | Report comment
David, I think Kacey’s point has tremendous merit.
I agree with you the ICC is a toothless tiger but there is also very difficult to enforce any change.
The BCCI has more cash reserves than the other nine Test playing nations put together and it chooses to use a considerable amount of dollars to gain alliances around the table in Dubai when it comes to voting.
IND has financially helped prop up the cricket associations in Zimbabwe, West Indies, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.
And, despite the political animosity between Delhi and Islamabad, Indian cricket has maintained a close association with the PCB at a time when nobody will tour the country.
So, when it comes to a vote being taken around the ICC board table, IND by weight of its financial clout is almost guaranteed the support of five other nations, thus giving them a 6-4 majority.
Thus, it is very difficult for the ICC to tell IND to get stuffed.
The DRS situation is a classic point. IND does not want it. So, at the vote in Dubai, the usage of the DRS was passed on the proviso that both competing nations in any one series agree to use it. The codicil about individual choice per country was supported by guess who? Again, IND got the vote that it ‘paid’ for.
Any changes in the principal way that the ICC operates with regard to voting rights etc would require changes to its constitution, and once again, if IND does not like what is proposed there is very little chance of it being adopted.
Everyone needs to remember that the ICC is a not a self-governing neutral body that oversees the sport.
It is a body that comprises at the top tier (where the voting power resides) delegates from the ten-Test playing nations. And as such, any major initiatives put forward at the ICC table have to receive a majority vote to be passed.
Unfortunately, it is a fact of life that the sport is not governed on a commission basis like the AFL has for many years and the NRL has followed suit. When you have independent commissioners who are not beholden to the whims of individual clubs/nations the best result for the sport is more often to the fore.
Sadly, while IND continues to be the monetary epicentre of the sport it will continue to lobby behind the scenes to get what it wants.
And with so many other countries happy to take IND money to help prop-up their own backyard we can scream all we want for things t change but it ain’t going to happen I am afraid.
March 19th 2013 @ 2:31pm
matt said | March 19th 2013 @ 2:31pm | Report comment
Money, power and the Golden rule. It would appear that the BCCI has embraced the values espoused by it’s western counterparts. Funny how our wisdom seems misguided when the shoe is on the other foot.
March 19th 2013 @ 4:06am
Homer said | March 19th 2013 @ 4:06am | Report comment
1. Last checked, Aleem Dar was a member of the ICC Emirates Elite Panel of Umpires.
2. “Had Hughes batted another 10 overs for 15-20 runs, India wouldn’t have had time to score the necessaries, and the Australians would have salvaged an honourable draw.” Or, he could have gotten out next ball, and the umpires would have upheld the Brad Haddin catch that was not given, and India would have been chasing 30 less.We can would have, should have, could have all we want, but for a team that scores 400 in the first innings of a 4 day game and still contrives to lose, there are really no excuses.
3. If the ICC is so keen on the DRS, as the author assumes, why has it yet to release the findings from testing all the various technologies that happened at Cambridge. And why is the ICC reluctant to bankroll a system they so obviously believe assists thier umpires in better decision making?
Maybe, just maybe, instead of making a case against the BCCI, there is a stronger case to be made about the ICC and its ineptitude?
March 19th 2013 @ 4:53am
David Lord said | March 19th 2013 @ 4:53am | Report comment
Homer, no maybes, your last 14 words nailed the real problem – the ICC. It has always been a toothless, gutless, pathetic organisation where ICC members enjoy flying first-class and sitting in the best seats in the house at internationals. While they are swanning around they just too busy to do what they are supposed to do – run the game. India holds the ICC to ransom by providing 75% of the income generated around the globe. Stuff ‘em, they must still conform like every other country.
March 19th 2013 @ 7:01am
Homer said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:01am | Report comment
@ David,
And yet, at the CEC meet, none of the other countries wanted to push for s vote on the DRS. Pox on the bCCI is all fine and dandy, but when will the other boards grow a pair?
And this is before we get into the debates on the feasibility of the processes, technologies, costs and security of the current implementation of the DRS.
Cheers,
March 19th 2013 @ 7:11am
Indian cricket fan said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:11am | Report comment
Yes, it’s the ICC – yes, it’s the BCCI – yes it’s Aleem Dar – yes it’s the Indian dustbowls – yes, it’s the pervasive Indian crowds, climate, conditions. Banish them all and we will have the unconquerable Aussie supremacy of the past back in short order.
March 19th 2013 @ 2:20pm
Lindommer said | March 19th 2013 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
Not for one moment, Icf, has Australia ever put its short-term interest above the health of the game. Cricket world-wide would be much the poorer without the magnificent contribution Australian coaches have made the last two, or so, decades.
One salient point: cricket everywhere, and especially on the subcontinent, has struggled what to do with illegal deliveries. Australia went through a similar period of angst over illegal deliveries in our domestic competition in the late 50s and early 60s. What did the Australian authorities do? Stamped it out, that’s what they did; no attempts were made to tamper with the laws of cricket to solve our problems. Don’t ever forget it was an Australian umpire (Col Egar) who called the Australian paceman, Ian Meckiff, for throwing against the Saffers in the early 60s.
When India takes as much time solving its, and others, problems in world cricket they’ll be granted the respect Australia’s received these last 50 years. At the moment all I can see it short-term selfishness on India’s part.
Congratulations on India’s win this series, they’ve been too good.
March 19th 2013 @ 3:45pm
Geno said | March 19th 2013 @ 3:45pm | Report comment
Yes and Tendulkar is far better than Brandman!
March 21st 2013 @ 12:09pm
Lindommer said | March 21st 2013 @ 12:09pm | Report comment
AS far as I can work out EVERYONE’S better than Brandman.
March 19th 2013 @ 7:34am
Homer said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:34am | Report comment
also, http://cricketingview.blogspot.com/search/label/DRS by far the most comprehensive selection of writing on the DRS, its flaws and its implementation
Cheers,
March 19th 2013 @ 5:42am
FTR said | March 19th 2013 @ 5:42am | Report comment
But it’s the BCCI that stops the ICC acting. The Indians have the money and so they call the shots.
March 19th 2013 @ 7:02am
Homer said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:02am | Report comment
@FTR,
Begs the question – where are the other 9 permanent members when u need them?
Cheers,
March 19th 2013 @ 10:32am
Mickyt said | March 19th 2013 @ 10:32am | Report comment
When push comes to shove, the Indians, Pakistanis and Sri lankians and the powerhouse Bangladesh vote as one based on what the BCCI wants. If they appease the BCCI then they pass some money there way.
March 19th 2013 @ 10:59am
Homer said | March 19th 2013 @ 10:59am | Report comment
@Mickyt,
Well, CA made 40 million off the BG series in 2012. The ECB recorded a profit of 30 million pounds off the Pataudi Trophy in 2011. Mind, india were swept in both the series. And I would like to believe that the time on bloc voting as passed, since we have had Sri Lanka and Pakistan both block BCCI initiatives in the ICC, while CA has played ball.
That said, the ICC is neither willing to bankroll the DRS that is so wants utilized, nor is it in any way, shape or form, laying down strict specifications of what the DRS should be and what the technologies should do. So, you have hawkeye, Eagle Eye and Virtual Eye, all three of which give umpires different data to work with. And you have Hotspot, that can or cannot be used by various countries, depending on cost and government clearance. And then you have stump mics, some as sophisticated as Snicko while others as pedestrian as a mic placed under the stump.
And then you have a process that is inherently flawed.
The DRS debate has been beaten to death, and the ICC is no wiser in spelling out the exact specifications of the technologies in use or addressing the concerns of its member constituents , whether in terms of procedure, costs or technological deficiencies.
Reminds me of the WADA debate – the BCCI took a hardline on the”whereabouts clause”, and once it did, the CA was quick to align with the BCCI’s misgivings about the issue, despite the ICC pushing hard to enforce WADA diktats as is.
Cheers,
March 19th 2013 @ 11:18am
Clavers said | March 19th 2013 @ 11:18am | Report comment
And so, I believe, do South Africa, Zimbabwe and the Windies. In Zimbabwe’s case, perhaps it is a key reason why they are still a full member.
I also suspect that India is unlikely to agree to admit Ireland to the test playing ranks anytime soon, because Ireland would not be in their voting camp.
March 19th 2013 @ 4:31am
Red Kev said | March 19th 2013 @ 4:31am | Report comment
Wade will play ahead of Haddin because the selectors won’t admit they got it wrong.
Khawaja will be placed on injury standby for Clarke again but Clarke will play, Khawaja won’t be released in time for the shield final and will get screwed by the selectors again. It is no longer possible to deny that they are running an agenda against him.
Siddle will retain no.8 in the batting not because he’s any good but because he’s a lion heart and leads the attack and will claim seniority.
Australia won’t play 6 specialist batsmen, we need allrounders, Arthur has said so about 47 times, he’s wrong but he believes it so I expect the big show or Henriques to get another crack.
March 19th 2013 @ 4:58am
David Lord said | March 19th 2013 @ 4:58am | Report comment
Notice Red Kev, Arthur has been very quiet of late, maybe he’s learned if you speak drivel, you get clobbered.
March 19th 2013 @ 6:11am
Red Kev said | March 19th 2013 @ 6:11am | Report comment
Heh heh, he clearly still hasn’t learned that if you don’t prepare the team well as coach they get clobbered.
March 19th 2013 @ 6:30am
David Lord said | March 19th 2013 @ 6:30am | Report comment
Touche RK.
March 19th 2013 @ 7:26am
Brendon said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:26am | Report comment
Suprise suprise, RK and Lordy saying Haddin should come in. How did he go with the bat lads? Did he chuck his wicket away again?
March 19th 2013 @ 7:40am
Red Kev said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:40am | Report comment
Not to interfere with your wanderings through fantasy and drivel land but I’ve never once called for Haddin to come back – go ahead check, I’ll wait. The only reason I wouldn’t swap Wade back in now is that Haddin is a better keeper to spin and he is already in the side. Wade will be back for the Ashes.
March 19th 2013 @ 1:15pm
Brendon said | March 19th 2013 @ 1:15pm | Report comment
I stand corrected, bit extreme in your response but hey, maybe we’re just a bit calmer in fantasydrivelville where I permanantly reside, better than over agressivetown, or it’s only sportsville though.
March 19th 2013 @ 8:34am
Disco said | March 19th 2013 @ 8:34am | Report comment
Sounds about right. Khawaja won’t get a go in England neither.
March 19th 2013 @ 9:06am
Varun said | March 19th 2013 @ 9:06am | Report comment
Let’s hope khawaja gets his chance if Clarke is not fit, and as for the DRS, yes it should be bought in as howlers have been made against both sides(more against Aus) and that’s not acceptable
March 19th 2013 @ 11:13am
Phil said | March 19th 2013 @ 11:13am | Report comment
Khawaja has earned his opportunity, given this is a dead rubber and given he was our number 1 reserve batsman he should come in. Overall the 3 loses are really a horrifying indication for Australia’s bench strength. The Australian selectors/coaching staff need to address this as soon as possible and first develop the confidence in youngsters and then once they are settled, they will automatically learn to behave looking at all the legends traveling all over the world.
March 19th 2013 @ 9:18am
Pope Paul VII said | March 19th 2013 @ 9:18am | Report comment
Wouldn’t it be great if Clarke sat it out and let the other six batsmen have a crack. Not bloody likely.
Moises surely will get a rest but as you say good old Maxi looms. This unproven allrounder crap is insane.
If Arthur and Clarke think they will be competive in the next test and England with 5 bats they are bonkers. I’m most disappointed ih Rod Marsh for agreeing to this nonsense. Must be some West Australian mafia thing going on. What about Andy Bichel? Do they tie him up and gag him at selection meetings.
March 19th 2013 @ 4:37am
Homer said | March 19th 2013 @ 4:37am | Report comment
@RedKev,
Straight swap for Clarke/Hughes and Watson, with the rest of the team remaining the same? maybe Pattinson for X-Doh, unless the management wants to play 2 spinners.
March 19th 2013 @ 4:48am
Jannerboyuk said | March 19th 2013 @ 4:48am | Report comment
Wow the Aussie excuses keep piling on. A sight to behold. What excuses are you going to make for he ashes? Better get them warmed up, you’re gonna need them
March 19th 2013 @ 6:53am
Indian cricket fan said | March 19th 2013 @ 6:53am | Report comment
Awww, here we go again… Aussies crying sour grapes as usual – gurus, experts, rookies, et. al. What about Pujara’s dismissal for 1 which was a bigger howler. Cricket’s caucasians should learn to look at DRS objectively instead of ganging up along partisan lines. The world’s changing, so give up this old school “white is right” attitude. The DRS clearly has its faults and errors – go ask the S. Africans who faced the brunt of it in 2012 or Chappelli to name one expert. Those computer simulations do look compelling to anyone who is blindly willing to lap it up without asking the hard questions. The grass always looks greener on the other side. I can see a scenario where the DRS is adopted and the gurus, experts and rookies here start crying over spilt milk on being at the receiving end of new digital, automated howlers.
March 19th 2013 @ 7:03am
David Lord said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:03am | Report comment
What a ridiculous uneducated comment Indian cricket fan. The DRS may, just may, have its shortcomings, but it’s a hell of a lot more accurate than the human eye can ever hope to be. Make it mandatory, and no-one has a beef. That’s a plain simple fact. I’ll bet if an umpire’s decision cost India a series of import in the future, you will be the first one to cry murder. You can’t have it both ways. And by the way, it has nothing whatsoever to do with colour.
March 19th 2013 @ 9:15am
Ian Whitchurch said | March 19th 2013 @ 9:15am | Report comment
Davi,
No. I still have a beef.
A system of institutionalising dissent in the umpires decision, of not criticising but glorifying a batsman’s decision to stand his ground and say to the umpire ‘You’re wrong, Im staying’ … that’s just Not Cricket.
I dont often agree with the BCCI, but they have this one nailed.
Hire umpires, pay them well, and let them make decisions. If they want to use technology, good on them. But to allow a batsman to openly dissent in the umpire’s decision and demand a review – thats simply not cricket.
March 19th 2013 @ 10:25am
Brett McKay said | March 19th 2013 @ 10:25am | Report comment
Except Ian, that the dissent angle isn’t the reason the BCCI continue to reject DRS..
March 19th 2013 @ 12:16pm
Ian Whitchurch said | March 19th 2013 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
Brett,
Even a blind pig finds acorn once and again.
March 20th 2013 @ 8:52am
DeanP said | March 20th 2013 @ 8:52am | Report comment
that sounds a little old fashioned, or pompous, if you don’t mind me saying. There can be no more disgraceful display of dissent than was witnessed durng the ‘monkey-gate’ tour, when the Indians threatened to quit the tour and demanded a certain umpire be dropped. Of course with DRS the fielding side can also ask for a review. It must be humiliationg for an umpire to make a decision, only for it to then be proven wrong in front of a tv audience of millions. I bet the umpires are happy to have DRS in place, perhaps it needs to be taken out of the players hands, but the present use of DRS is better than no DRS.
March 19th 2013 @ 10:34am
Mickyt said | March 19th 2013 @ 10:34am | Report comment
Indian cricket fan pulling the “colour card” is lame and fatuous.
March 19th 2013 @ 10:46am
Elis said | March 19th 2013 @ 10:46am | Report comment
I agree that DRS should be mandatory for all tests and one dayers, but suggest that rather than players referring, have the umpires able to refer as required. Players losing referrals for a decision that would have gone their way had the original decision seems a little unreasonable. I reckon for 80% of the howlers that get made, the umpire has doubt (certainly from what I heard on the Roar’s commentary yesterday, the umpire had a good think about at least one of the dodgy calls). They seem happy enough to admit uncertainty for run outs.
The BCCI has bought and paid for at least four other members of the ICC, so good luck on getting progress there; administrators will drain the game for every last cent through pointless 20-20 contests, two test series and one dayers, maximising their TV revenue until the whole thing falls apart, before living out their days fat and happy on tropical islands.
March 19th 2013 @ 5:35pm
Indian cricket fan said | March 19th 2013 @ 5:35pm | Report comment
Oh Lord, better uneducated than educated in blind fallacies and misplaced innuendos. Don’t let your name get to your head. If you’ve got a problem with bad umpiring then call it bad umpiring – not bad umpiring against the Aussies. The first line in your article should have should have mentioned of Hughes and Pujara in the same breath. Besides, the argument is frivolous as Hughes’ dismissal was not the turning point as you claim. He’s barely clutching on to his place in the side, was just catching up to the law of averages and would have gone sooner or later. Rather than spray “ridiculous” and “uneducated” indiscriminately as you seem to commonly stoop to, you should debate the merits of the case and live upto your “Expert” billing and age as reflected in your photograph.
March 19th 2013 @ 6:12pm
Renegade said | March 19th 2013 @ 6:12pm | Report comment
Didn’t you bring colour and race into it with your ridiculous comment…..now your having pot shots at David through his photo and appearance.
Grow up you mug.
March 19th 2013 @ 7:12pm
Mickyt said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:12pm | Report comment
Indian cricket fan try debating on merits?
March 19th 2013 @ 7:08am
John Philipson said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:08am | Report comment
1st Test: Australia v India at Melbourne – Dec 26-29, 2011
Australia 333 and 240; India 282 and 169
Australia won by 122 runs
2nd Test: Australia v India at Sydney – Jan 3-6, 2012
India 191 and 400; Australia 659/4d
Australia won by an innings and 68 runs
3rd Test: Australia v India at Perth – Jan 13-15, 2012
India 161 and 171; Australia 369
Australia won by an innings and 37 runs
4th Test: Australia v India at Adelaide – Jan 24-28, 2012
Australia 604/7d and 167/5d; India 272 and 201
Australia won by 298 runs
India aren’t that great mate.
March 19th 2013 @ 7:14am
David Lord said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:14am | Report comment
Horses for courses JP, India grows an extra couple of legs at home, as we do, Except against England and South Africa.
March 19th 2013 @ 7:54am
Renegade said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:54am | Report comment
So do you know how much money Dar was paid by the BCCI yesterday??
March 19th 2013 @ 9:09am
Varun said | March 19th 2013 @ 9:09am | Report comment
Umpires get 10,000 per march
March 19th 2013 @ 7:54am
Renegade said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:54am | Report comment
So do you know how much money Dar was paid by the BCCI yesterday??
March 19th 2013 @ 10:51am
Ian said | March 19th 2013 @ 10:51am | Report comment
What’s with the “colour” comment? How pathetic that! For goodness sake, does that make every other cricketing nation also racist because they have embraced the DRS? The simple fact is that India, and only India refuse to embrace this technology. Sure it’s not perfect, but it does get rid of the howlers. Come on BCCI, stop being so short-sited and intransigent and embrace DRS, like everyone else has.
March 19th 2013 @ 7:11am
Yakuza said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:11am | Report comment
Its impossible to get DRS compulsary in all countries. Hot Spot and snicko are deemed Australia military technology and the government has banned its export to Pakistan due to its closeness with China.
The DRS lobby really need to think it through from a non cricketing POV. If the ICC push through the DRS and then there is no DRS in Pakistan then what?
As things stand the ICC and the BCCI had to move miles to get DRS tech like hotspot and snicko for the iCC cricket world cup. India has its own restriction on military. Even the Formula 1 cars were affected by customs.
March 19th 2013 @ 10:27am
Brett McKay said | March 19th 2013 @ 10:27am | Report comment
“Hot Spot and snicko are deemed Australia military technology and the government has banned its export to Pakistan due to its closeness with China”
What complete crap, Yakuza. Back up your statement or retract it..
March 19th 2013 @ 11:10am
Homer said | March 19th 2013 @ 11:10am | Report comment
@Brett McKay,
From this article here (http://www.dailymailnews.com/0611/29/Sports/index.php?id=3)
The members of the International Cricket Council (ICC) have “conditionally” agreed to accept the UDRS (Umpires Decision Review System), but the full technology with Hot Spot cameras will not be avilable to all Test playing nations. This was revealed by Warren Brennan, the Director : BBG Sports.
Speaking exclusively from Australia, he said, “I have not applied for export licenses to any other countries other than the countries on our existing license. This means that I will need to apply for the following countries to be added, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Zimbabwe and West Indies”.
“Of these countries, it is my opinion that we may only have problems for Zim and Pak. The others should be fine. I haven’t applied for these additional countries yet and won’t do so until after the ICC have had their Annual General meeting in Hong Kong at the end of June”.
“There are some Cricketing countries like Zimbabwe and Pakistan that BBG may never be allowed to take our cameras. The Australian government have a right of veto to not allow our cameras to any countries that they deem unfit. Currently, BBG has been advised that we will never be permitted to take our cameras to China under any circumstances”. .
“This license is only issued on a 12 month basis and needs to be re-assessed every year. Our current license is valid until April 2012″.
“The Hot Spot has never been taken to Sri Lanka yet. The inaugural DRS system in SL in 2008 only included ball tracking”, he further added.
“High-end infrared components are only made in 5 different countries around the world. Of these 5 countries, one is the USA which makes it almost impossible to move its infrared components and cameras around the world due to its very tight export control. Every time you wish to move US infrared components to another country it takes several months to get the appropriate export licenses from the US State Department”. .
“Thankfully the European countries are much more flexible with their licensing arrangements and once infrared components and cameras are sold to BBG Sports then the Australian Government is transferred the responsibility of controlling the restricted infrared items by the European country of origin. Currently, BBG has a temporary export license with the Australian Defence Department that allows our existing cameras to used for a short period of time (length of the Cricket tour) in the following countries : United Kingdom France, South Africa, United Arab Emirates, New Zealand and India”.
“Naturally, BBG Sports has concentrated on using European made infrared components and cameras as it is far simpler to move our cameras to-and-from the above countries. Additional countries can be added to the above list within 15 working days”.
Cheers,
March 19th 2013 @ 12:06pm
Brett McKay said | March 19th 2013 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
Thanks Homer, I certanly stand corrected on the Defence elements..
March 20th 2013 @ 1:24am
Yakuza said | March 20th 2013 @ 1:24am | Report comment
so maybe its time to end this “DRS” debate…..
March 19th 2013 @ 7:50am
Rellum said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:50am | Report comment
I have really enjoyed the absence of the DRS, keeps the game moving. I hate it when the drama of a wicket is suddenly highjacket so everyone can turn around and watch TV for 5 mins. I don’t care if the ups get the odd one wrong, if Phillip hughes or any batsmen wants to avoid getiing given out LBW they should hit the the ball with their bat. If they are not good enough to do that then to bad for them.
I it should be pointed out that the young players have taken their bad calls with grace and sportsman ship and walked off with no protest (well none that I have seen). To me that is a big reason to keep the DRS away from the game, send the message to the kids watching on how to lose with dignity and take disappointment on the chin.
March 19th 2013 @ 7:55am
Renegade said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:55am | Report comment
Rellum, fair point.
However the issue is that a howler can seriously influence the outcome of a match….wouldn’t you rather the right call be made?
March 19th 2013 @ 7:59am
Rellum said | March 19th 2013 @ 7:59am | Report comment
Yes, but not at the inclusion of the DRS, I would rather we work away at improving umpiring standards. It is a complex issue because of match fixing, but I personally prefer it the way the the system has run in this current series.
March 19th 2013 @ 8:03am
Renegade said | March 19th 2013 @ 8:03am | Report comment
I believe DRS is the better option and it puts the emphasis on the players, where they believe they are out they simply walk or contest if they feel they’ve been hard done by.
Specially in the case of India, where they appeal for anything that hits the pad regardless of the fact it might be half way down the pitch or 2 feet wide from the stumps.
March 19th 2013 @ 8:09am
Rellum said | March 19th 2013 @ 8:09am | Report comment
But the counter argument to that is when everyone complained after we suffered two howlers against Sri Lanka in the recent one-day series because Clark(I think) wasted the DRS on his hope that he wasn’t out. Selfishness from the players won out in that case when they had the choice to walk or challenge and we still got two howlers in a game with the DRS.
March 19th 2013 @ 8:10am
Red Kev said | March 19th 2013 @ 8:10am | Report comment
If DRS were used correctly it would be good, but anytime it isn’t used for a howler I cringe.
March 19th 2013 @ 8:08am
eagleJack said | March 19th 2013 @ 8:08am | Report comment
Unfortunately humans are humans. They make mistakes. No amount of training will ever override this one simple factor. Technology is a must.
March 19th 2013 @ 10:57am
Rellum said | March 19th 2013 @ 10:57am | Report comment
Computers and systems make mistakes too. We delude ourselves into thinking computers are precise because they calculate in one’s and zero’s. You can’t get more black and white that that can you? The DRS has just as many questions over it as the Human umpires. The only reason I would support DRS is becaue of the corruption issue.
March 20th 2013 @ 1:22am
M-Rod said | March 20th 2013 @ 1:22am | Report comment
I agree Rellum, the game is much better without this DRS. Don’t miss it at all.
March 19th 2013 @ 8:04am
Red Kev said | March 19th 2013 @ 8:04am | Report comment
I would support DRS with two changes.
1 – Remove Hawkeye. It is a predictive statistics based projection and cannot be relied upon for the millimetre accuracy it has been in the recent Australian home series where balls are “outside the line” or “less than half hitting the stumps”.
2 – Remove the “Challenge” aspect. Make it clear that the only thing it can be used to change is edge / no edge, no ball, and has the ball carried for a catch – give the power to the umpires and make the batsman ask the umpire to check it because “I hit the cover off that and you gave me out lbw”.
March 19th 2013 @ 8:49am
James said | March 19th 2013 @ 8:49am | Report comment
I like the challenge concept. It removes the blame from the umpire as if the player doesn’t think it is worthwhile challenging then they can’t really get upset about the decision. I thought they tried the umpire challenge option in one of the domestic competitions and it was changed back quickly as it was not working.
I would like to change the direction of the third umpire to only change the decision if it is a clear howler. There have been some reversals which haven’t been clear. Maybe they need a time limit.
March 19th 2013 @ 10:27am
Brett McKay said | March 19th 2013 @ 10:27am | Report comment
This.
On both counts. You’ve just saved me a lot of typing, Kev….
March 19th 2013 @ 11:11am
Allanthus said | March 19th 2013 @ 11:11am | Report comment
DRS use in the England v NZ series has been better. Matt Prior was given out LBW on the sweep, it looked plumb, but the challenge showed a bottom edge and the right decision was made in no time, with no fuss.
It is obvious that both McCullum and Cook have been trying harder not to use it for 50/50 calls, although ironically both were talked into challenging by their bowlers on LBW calls, and both missed out. Which hopefully only makes them more reluctant to roll the dice in the future, unless certain.
It’s also noticeable that the umpires have been enforcing a time limit, which is also a slight improvement.
To come back to the title of David’s article, he fact that the game’s controlling body can’t enforce a universal system is an utter disgrace. Of course money is important but integrity is surely worth much more.
March 19th 2013 @ 10:58am
Rellum said | March 19th 2013 @ 10:58am | Report comment
I would start to trust Hawkeye if it could pick up edges off the bat/batsmen. Until then it is just a guess.
March 19th 2013 @ 11:25am
Simba said | March 19th 2013 @ 11:25am | Report comment
What about – has the ball pitched outside leg or hit outside the line? Surely these two can be challenged as well. These two rely on the actual ball movement – not simulated trajectory.
And they could help remove howlers.
March 19th 2013 @ 11:36am
Red Kev said | March 19th 2013 @ 11:36am | Report comment
Cameras aren’t accurate enough to measure that, not enough frames per second to ensure you have the actual moment of impact. For a howler like Phil Hughes’ dismissal I would empower the third umpire to speak on the radio and over-rule the on-field umpire.
March 19th 2013 @ 11:36am
Col said | March 19th 2013 @ 11:36am | Report comment
Here here.
March 19th 2013 @ 2:01pm
Russ said | March 19th 2013 @ 2:01pm | Report comment
Red Kev, the issue I have with this comment is that the things you list in 2, are far and away the most contentious and least clear on replays, whereas the projection can have its uncertainty calculated to within 5-10mm, which is better than the human-eye.
The problem with the DRS is that is used (inevitably) for resolving competing claims to a dismissal, and those claims, even on replay, are never 100% clear. That problem will persist regardless of the technology or its accuracy. At ome point uncertainty exists. the problem is trying to adjudicate on it in fine details after already adjudicating on it with some other piece of evidence. If the evidence can be determined clearly, quickly, and with complete certainty, it ought to be given to the umpire before they make their first decision. If not, who cares? Close enough is good enough.
March 19th 2013 @ 3:12pm
jameswm said | March 19th 2013 @ 3:12pm | Report comment
Nah Kev it should be used for has the ball pitched in line and has it hit in line.
I think having it as an umpire/3rd umpire’s prerogative is better than a player challenge.
And agreed ditch the projection on whether the ball will hit or not. I’m not convinced on that.
March 19th 2013 @ 8:04am
A1 said | March 19th 2013 @ 8:04am | Report comment
You can’t say Hughes would have been saved yesterday because Australia probably would have used their two referrals already!
March 19th 2013 @ 9:11am
Varun said | March 19th 2013 @ 9:11am | Report comment
Good point A2
March 19th 2013 @ 8:46am
Julian said | March 19th 2013 @ 8:46am | Report comment
If Tendulkar gets a howler on 99 they may reconsider.
March 19th 2013 @ 9:04am
Pope Paul VII said | March 19th 2013 @ 9:04am | Report comment
Is he still playing?
March 19th 2013 @ 9:16am
Julian said | March 19th 2013 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Apparently so! Averaging more than every Aussie batsman this series except for Clarke. Sad. (I don’t include Smith who’s only played the one match).
March 19th 2013 @ 9:38am
Pope Paul VII said | March 19th 2013 @ 9:38am | Report comment
And Clarkey’s only leading him because of a lack of DRS