Slater’s indiscretions must be addressed
By Boydy-in-Brisbane, 23 Mar 2013 Boydy-in-Brisbane is a Roar Rookie
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Firstly, let me say, I think Billy Slater is one of the best (if not the best) fullbacks I have ever seen and I go back as far as the Les Johns’ era.
Unfortunately he is also one of the biggest grubs in the game and the match review committee need to come down hard on his cheap shots.
How the match review committee managed to come to the conclusion there was nothing wrong with his blatant late shoulder charge on Antonio Winterstein was mind-boggling enough, but to say that kick last night was not intentional is absolute rubbish!
This bloke is going to seriously hurt someone and then we will likely see a criminal law suit for assault.
The only difference between what he did to David Klemmer and what Eric Cantona did to Crystal Palace fan Matthew Simmons was that he did it on the field of play during a game and not to a fan who’d rubbed him up the wrong way.
Cantona was subsequently arrested and convicted for assault, resulting in a two-week prison sentence which was overturned in the appeal court and reduced to 120 hours of community service.
Now before the howls of “Turn it up, you can’t compare the two incidents” start flying, let me pose this question: if Slater had broken Klemmer’s jaw as Les Boyd did to Darryl Brohman in 1983 would he be within his rights to sue?
This method of catching the football must be outlawed and outlawed fast before someone get seriously hurt.
It has found it way into our game from European football where goalkeepers practice the act, but there is no place for it in rugby league.
It is simply another unprofessional trick that Craig Bellamy has brought into the game to physically hurt the opposition players thus gaining an advantage for his team.
Slater and Cameron Smith are his chief executors in this area, Smith the grub in the rucks and Slater in open play.
There are rules in place to protect the kicker and also the man catching the ball.
I now call for the game’s rule makers to put in place a rule to protect the chaser and I call for it to happen immediately before we have another Brohman-Boyd incident on our hands.
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March 23rd 2013 @ 1:03am
kellett_1992 said | March 23rd 2013 @ 1:03am | Report comment
Boydy,
“The only difference between what he did to David Klemmer and what Eric Cantona did to Crystal Palace fan Matthew Simmons was that he did it on the field of play during a game and not to a fan who’d rubbed him up the wrong way.”
You’re joking right??
Eric Cantona – went running towards the fan, looked at him, then kicked him. Billy does thus action week in and week out every single year. I don’t ever recall him collecting a player like this before??
Perhaps the only that may eventuate out of this is a rule change stating “when a player leaves the ground to catch a ball the feet are not to lead into the opposition in an effort to protect the ball.”
Just a stab in the dark there!
Besides that, the matter was dealt with and both clubs have moved on, maybe everyone else can too??
March 23rd 2013 @ 1:54am
Toa said | March 23rd 2013 @ 1:54am | Report comment
Billy Slater when lashing out at John Skandalis & rub out for 7 weeks back in 2006 …..”I do realise it was clumsy and careless and I realise I’ve done something wrong,” Slater said. “But in no way was it intentional.”……things haven’t changed!!!!!!!
March 23rd 2013 @ 11:43am
I'mastormtrooper2 said | March 23rd 2013 @ 11:43am | Report comment
Do you know how many years ago that was ??? Scandalas has retired and Slater is entering the twightlight years of his career … At the time I believed that Scandalis was holding onto Slater’s foot a llittle too long, but,, no excuses, and Billy took his penalty on the chin … During the post match chat with Joey John’s on Thursday night, where Billy was awarded “The Man of the Match”, he offered no excuses – He was fine with leaving it up to the commission to decide … Slater has never shirked from punishment, and he has taken a fair pounding on the paddock himself – He knows that goes with the territory – He was raised on the game and fully understands the consequences … I’m not sure any league player deliberately goes onto the field with a mind set to mame or injure their apponent – Things happen in an instant and are mostly spontaneous and reactive … Remembering, Rugby League players are not exactly pre-schooler’s or mass murderers … My only fear is, how many more rules have to be changed before the public are paying to watch an expensive brand of touch footy…
March 23rd 2013 @ 12:00pm
Snowmann said | March 23rd 2013 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
“How many more rules have to be changed?”…as many as it takes to rub a grub like Slater out for an extended period of time. For a so-called genius on the field this knob sure has a lot of “accidents”.
March 23rd 2013 @ 12:27pm
Toa said | March 23rd 2013 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
Righto, lets have a look at the Jarrad Hayne incident, now by all accounts running off your logic its Man’s game and stinks usually happens hence the dust up between JH & slater can be water under the bridge.
Again your hesitant to claim why any player would deliberately injured or hurt another player however in the same game following the stink JH is tackled by 3 storm players including Billy slater which he manages to find the back of JH neck with his elbow.
Is this your idea of a champion?
March 23rd 2013 @ 12:34pm
I'mastormtrooper2 said | March 23rd 2013 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
Jarred Hayne – perfection personified without and indiscretions – NOT !!! The difference between Slater and Hayne – Hayne is paid more for a lack lustre performance and Slater is the world’s best #1, gives 100% and is worth every cent, without any off field drama …
March 23rd 2013 @ 3:26pm
Toa said | March 23rd 2013 @ 3:26pm | Report comment
You could argue the Hanye V Slater song until cows come home which has nothing to do with your original claims. In fact your reply is almost as cheap as Slaters indiscretions.
Replace hanye with Joe Bloggs again apply your logic and you’ll find Slaters actions were far from being a instant & spontaneous. Certainly wouldn’t find someone like a Lockyer, larkam or maybe an Abeltt doing that.
March 26th 2013 @ 5:14pm
Zac said | March 26th 2013 @ 5:14pm | Report comment
Come on lad’s Your comments come across as being bias. Keep to the facts. Billy was in the air and the other player moved into his space, which would have resulted in a foul anyway. Billy was sent to the tribunal and found not to have committed a foul. Cameron Smith had the correct interpretation of the event on the field of play and the tribunal used the same logic. No case to answer. So move on lads and keep to the facts of the matter!
March 23rd 2013 @ 6:02am
solly said | March 23rd 2013 @ 6:02am | Report comment
Billy Slater is a grub.
For the umpteenth time, Klemmer did not tackle Slater in the air.
(and if he did, I highly doubt he would have used his neck to try and grab hold of Slater’s foot…)
March 23rd 2013 @ 1:00pm
mike from tari said | March 23rd 2013 @ 1:00pm | Report comment
If Slater is a grub then what are Nate Miles, Wharea- Heargraves & Whatmough.
March 23rd 2013 @ 1:33pm
I'mastormtrooper2 said | March 23rd 2013 @ 1:33pm | Report comment
Michael Ennis – voted by his peers to be “the grub” of the NRL – Strangely enough he denies it …
March 23rd 2013 @ 3:31pm
Snowmann said | March 23rd 2013 @ 3:31pm | Report comment
The shear arrogance of you storm supports astounds me, never have I seen Ennis try to break somebody’s legs or kick somebody’s face. There is a difference between a niggler/sledger and a grub like Slater. BTW! How those 2009 premiership tattoos going?..
March 23rd 2013 @ 5:07pm
oikee said | March 23rd 2013 @ 5:07pm | Report comment
Your not the real snowman, your a imposter,,
here lads, this is sheer class, number 1 in Britain back in it’s time.
This snowmann is a trouble maker, plus he cant spell.
March 23rd 2013 @ 5:46pm
Snowmann said | March 23rd 2013 @ 5:46pm | Report comment
As i said before, lay off the cane toads. For the record, I don’t believe Slater did it intentional, but he always seems to have “accidents” for such a so-called gifted player.
March 23rd 2013 @ 5:57pm
I'mastormtrooper2 said | March 23rd 2013 @ 5:57pm | Report comment
I’m far from arrogant Snowman – The players of 2011 and 2012 voted that Ennis the Menice was in their professional opinion the biggest grub in the the game … There is much that goes down on and off the footy fiield, that fans don’t know, so it’s only my guess that the footballers know better then me … I’ve never heard a bad word said about Slater, by players, legends or commentators of the game … I do know his parents well enough … I’m not into tattoo’s, Premiershiip or others … And, as far as I’m aware, and as long as my children are free of ink, I don’t care what the other half do, or think or believe about the Storm or their Premierships … I don’t walk out early when they are losing and I won’t walk away from them through adversity – Think about that as you wish, but honestly I don’t give a fig !!!
March 24th 2013 @ 11:11pm
Snowmann said | March 24th 2013 @ 11:11pm | Report comment
For the record stormtrooper I am a Bulldogs supporter and member, and at times, i did have a soft spot for the Storm, might have been the fact both teams got done for the salary cap. 2002 was heartbreaking for supports like myself, 17 straight, then having to get the wooden spoon, but as a true supporter we took it on the chin and stayed loyal to our team, so please spare the rhetorics about supporting my club. The difference between us is that we don’t play the victim. We haven’t exactly been the beacon of light but by god are we trying. The way your captain and coach chucked a sook at the presser was sheer arrogance. To state that Klemmer tackled him in mid air is idiotic and one eyed from a typical Storm player and coach.
March 23rd 2013 @ 4:00pm
solly said | March 23rd 2013 @ 4:00pm | Report comment
?!?!
How does those guys being grubs mean Slater is not?
March 23rd 2013 @ 4:31pm
I'mastormtrooper2 said | March 23rd 2013 @ 4:31pm | Report comment
He places his hands on Slaters foot and legs before he hits the ground … Rule says, a player contesting a high ball is not to be touched before a part of his body makes contact with the turf …. Sorry, a lack of timing, in the wrong place, whatever – The responsibility is to the defending team not to make the infringement … Bad management doesn’t change that fact … You don’t have to be a Rhodes Scholar to work it out …
April 14th 2013 @ 10:26pm
ant said | April 14th 2013 @ 10:26pm | Report comment
I reckon the foot goes into the neck before klemmers hands touch him and thats where its wrong.storm gets away with way too much.i reckon theyve found new ways to cheat the salary cap, probably all drug cheats too.
March 23rd 2013 @ 6:41am
Henry said | March 23rd 2013 @ 6:41am | Report comment
His technique is an AFL catching style to balance a player in the air which was obviously learnt during one of their many cross training days they have with AFL clubs. Smith got it right on the night also “if the player wasn’t coming in to attempt the tackle he wouldn’t have got hit in the head”. You’re probably the same people who whinged about the shoulder charge ban yet you’re already suggesting a rule change after one accident that surprising happened in a rough game… Idiots
March 23rd 2013 @ 7:05am
I hate Melbourne storm said | March 23rd 2013 @ 7:05am | Report comment
Cheats
March 23rd 2013 @ 12:29pm
Meesta Cool said | March 23rd 2013 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
hahahahahah. bet your lot are taking drugs!…
March 23rd 2013 @ 7:45am
solly said | March 23rd 2013 @ 7:45am | Report comment
Smith’s comments are disingenuous to say the least.
All players try to tackle a leaping player as soon as they land. Klemmer was doing the same. You can see him actually pausing briefly to make sure he timed his tackle.
But read this next line carefully, Klemmer DID NOT initiate any contact with Slater. If anyone says that, they are simply lying.
The shoulder ban issue has absolutely nothing to do with the above statements. I hope you can appreciate this.
Accidents will occur. Rugby league is a tough sport.
But Billy Slater has a reckless technique about him and that was evident on Thursday night.
March 23rd 2013 @ 7:52am
yewonk said | March 23rd 2013 @ 7:52am | Report comment
bringing the legs up in afl is for when your taking a mark over the back of someone. they dont kick out after catching the ball.
so i dont know what your talking about. also the player can run in for the tackle all he wants he only commits an offence if he makes the tackle in the air.
March 23rd 2013 @ 12:44pm
Kevin said | March 23rd 2013 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
Mate 100% right, Michael long perfected it
March 23rd 2013 @ 7:13am
Robert said | March 23rd 2013 @ 7:13am | Report comment
Exhibit A for Slater grubbiness-2008 GF.Half of Manly’s many try scorers in that game had Slater stud marks over their arms or face.And saying it would not of happened if the dogs player had not come in to make a tackle in the air,which he wasnt,is like saying if the Cowboys player had not put his ass there Hoppa would not of put his finger up it
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March 23rd 2013 @ 7:25am
yewonk said | March 23rd 2013 @ 7:25am | Report comment
look at 0:08
March 23rd 2013 @ 8:49am
Luke M said | March 23rd 2013 @ 8:49am | Report comment
Wow. Bruce Lee would be proud of that one.
March 23rd 2013 @ 9:24am
Andy said | March 23rd 2013 @ 9:24am | Report comment
The Storm used Sports science to raise Mr. Miyagi from the dead to teach Slater martial arts.
March 23rd 2013 @ 3:15pm
I'mastormtrooper2 said | March 23rd 2013 @ 3:15pm | Report comment
Robert – Love the video – Hope that you have permission to use it ??? Looks like Slater hasn’t changed his technique – The refs didn’t nail his arse to the floor back in 2008 and considering no rule was broken, that is probably why the commission said he had no case to answer … What about “No Case To Answer” don’t people understand …
March 23rd 2013 @ 8:48am
Luke M said | March 23rd 2013 @ 8:48am | Report comment
I can almost see Billy at training saying, “Well i’m doing it. It’s one of those things where if something happens i can say its an accident and nobody can prove it wasn’t”
Melbourne have a stench about them.
March 23rd 2013 @ 12:31pm
Meesta Cool said | March 23rd 2013 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
Yes Luke.. the stench is called ‘WINNING” and losers don’t like it!. grow up and get a life! watch the game and enjoy it!.
March 23rd 2013 @ 5:28pm
Luke M said | March 23rd 2013 @ 5:28pm | Report comment
Nothing to do with what i’m saying. Yes they win a lot, good on them. But some of the things they do on the field push the boundaries, to say the least.
March 26th 2013 @ 5:27pm
Zac said | March 26th 2013 @ 5:27pm | Report comment
Another poor looser. Just enjoy the spectacle, but I guess it’s difficult if your team keeps loosing against the Storm. Where is your sportsmanship? My guess is if Storm were not winning it would be some other team you would be having a go at!
March 23rd 2013 @ 9:01am
Lovey said | March 23rd 2013 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Yeh well, I just wonder whether all this criticism is coming from anti-Melbourne and/or anti-Queensland people.
I can remember Slater cradling an opponents head for a lengthy time, when he feared a broken neck. I don’t see niggle, forearms on head in tackle, sledging, head butts etc. For mine, he is no grub.
He often tried to desperation to sometimes kick towards a ball to prevent a try, as did others. This was outlawed, so he got this put of his game, as did others.
As for the recent incident, no serious commentator has said it was deliberate. So if the critics who say jumping for a ball with leg outstretched is reckless, please write the rule, or give an exact interpretation to be applied.
Also Slater plays at full speed, much can be instinctive and reflex action, in a high impact sport.
March 23rd 2013 @ 9:40am
soapit said | March 23rd 2013 @ 9:40am | Report comment
so because he’s such a humanitarian and he showed concern when there might have been a spinal injury he gets a free pass to ninja kick to peoples throats and not be labelled a grub?
March 23rd 2013 @ 10:19am
Lovey said | March 23rd 2013 @ 10:19am | Report comment
Of course, he is not a grub. No doubt. You could see the expression on his face the instant he rolled over on the ground, he knew something had happened. Methinks jealousy and partisanship are on display here. There are few “grubs” in the game these days, I can think of a couple of hot-heads only. But Billy S is not one. Give it up.
March 23rd 2013 @ 11:08am
Toa said | March 23rd 2013 @ 11:08am | Report comment
Explain the John Skandalis incident, the Jared Hayne elbow to the back of the neck somehow Jealously doesn’t come anywhere near the discussion rather the indiscretions that most would chose to forget.
March 23rd 2013 @ 5:29pm
Luke M said | March 23rd 2013 @ 5:29pm | Report comment
I forgot about the elbow to the neck. The judiciary said cos he missed it was ok right? lol.
March 23rd 2013 @ 11:44am
soapit said | March 23rd 2013 @ 11:44am | Report comment
to think you agreed with my obviously sarcastic question with ‘of course’ shows how far off base you are. what is that 1 act of decency compared to heading towards 10 acts of grubbiness.
and they’re only the ones he got caught for. remember the hayne knee twist after the tackle. you could put someone out for weeks if he’d succeeded
March 23rd 2013 @ 1:35pm
Lovey said | March 23rd 2013 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
You blokes are on a mission to label a guy a grub. Tall poppy syndrome, as he is a star in teams you oppose. You are so far off-base it is not funny. Those dreadful incidents you cite, I daresay you could compile a similar list on any player in the league. So grow up, I don’t know how old you guys are. As an example, I am not saying Hayne is a grub, a fine young bloke I guess, but he has had a couple of brain explosions, and dubious actions like many others.
Whilst talk of “reckless” play is valid, unless deliberate, it cannot be the action of a grub. Sour grapes, boys.
March 23rd 2013 @ 2:14pm
oikee said | March 23rd 2013 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
They are trying to get a bite, talk about Ellen or Oprah, even Mardi gras and they chat like chooks in a henhouse. Talk about crowds origin or relocation, you cant get a word outta anythem.
Imagine talking Slater Inglis Barba Cherry Evans Cronk and the Kiwis out of the Sydney comp, the game would fold overnite and they would have to pay us to watch it.
They have killed rugby league with scandals and media hype, along with drugs and clubs that cant even get a sponser.
Gallop has more energy now in soccer than he had running our self-induced nitemare that has been run into the ground by Sydney and it’s clubs.
You only have to look at the obstruction rule to know we are run by amatuers, wont be long before coaches are coaching players to take dives when decoy runners come towards them.
Not long now, league is almost dead. When crowds hit 10 thousand, its all over, Titans this weekend.
March 23rd 2013 @ 2:58pm
soapit said | March 23rd 2013 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
ok lovey, feel free to post a similar list for anyone in the comp. be interesting if you can find one
March 26th 2013 @ 5:34pm
Zac said | March 26th 2013 @ 5:34pm | Report comment
Very nicely put “Lovey”. My sentiments exactly. I think your on the money when you raise the age of some of the contributors. They are perhaps very young and immature or perhaps just the latter?
March 23rd 2013 @ 9:02am
shane said | March 23rd 2013 @ 9:02am | Report comment
billy also held the wolfman whilst players were crashing al around them and in doing so went a way on helping the wolfman from having a more serious neck injury . if i was jumping in mid air to catch a football and having a couple of 100kg plus gentlemen wanting to polverise me as soon as i reconnected with terra firma i would be using any advantage to my benefit .
id suggest getting under him while he is mid air
March 23rd 2013 @ 9:10am
The Barry said | March 23rd 2013 @ 9:10am | Report comment
Shouldn’t be lashing out with the boot.
There was a photo in yesterdays paper that shows Klemmer pulling back before any contact made. There’s a photo on the roar on one of the other articles that clearly shows initial contact made by Slaters boot into Klemmers jaw.
Regardless of whether slater meant it it was reckless and dangerous and he KICKED someone in the face. He should serve a suspension. It’s obvious.
Saying it was accidental doesn’t get you off for a high shot but apparently is fine if you kick someone in the face.
March 23rd 2013 @ 10:15am
eagleJack said | March 23rd 2013 @ 10:15am | Report comment
No doubt as Klemmer is lining up to tackle Slater he pulls back to avoid contact with Slaters foot which he sees in his peripheral vision. But prior to that he only had eyes for Slater and there is no doubt he was going to tackle him while in the air.
Look at the footage below. Around the 0.46 mark Klemmer puts his arms out to tackle Slater mid air, but is walloped by his boot first. Those suggesting he slowed down to wait for him to land are not watching replays of the incident (solly et al). If Klemmer was up flying and trying to compete for the ball then his actions would have been fine. But he had no intention of getting the ball and was only interested in hitting Slater whilst airborne.
It is definitely not a good look. And Slater certainly has form on the board in attacking players with his feet. But this one has been blown out of proportion by some sections. Luckily the MRC saw it more clearly.
March 23rd 2013 @ 12:39pm
soapit said | March 23rd 2013 @ 12:39pm | Report comment
thats quite a crystal ball you must have there.
March 23rd 2013 @ 12:47pm
eagleJack said | March 23rd 2013 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
They are called eyes soapit. Watch the replays. Get your nurse to help you click the link.
March 23rd 2013 @ 3:00pm
soapit said | March 23rd 2013 @ 3:00pm | Report comment
do the replays show that “he had no intention of getting the ball and was only interested in hitting Slater whilst airborne.”
i didnt know slo mo could show what players were thinking.
March 23rd 2013 @ 3:08pm
eagleJack said | March 23rd 2013 @ 3:08pm | Report comment
Technology is pretty impressive now soapit. The other night I heard the thoughts of SBW as he prepared to run on…
March 23rd 2013 @ 3:35pm
I'mastormtrooper2 said | March 23rd 2013 @ 3:35pm | Report comment
Apparently Darryl Brohman has the psycological edge in that department … If you where listening to 2GB continuous call program last night …
March 23rd 2013 @ 8:01pm
solly said | March 23rd 2013 @ 8:01pm | Report comment
Sorry eaglejack but I’m not sure what you are seeing. The 0.46 sec mark you refer to shows Klemmer pausing briefly.
This suggests that he was waiting for Slater to ‘land’.
Whether you agree with that or not though is somewhat irrelevant to my point, however, that Slater’s leg action is very, very dangerous.
Unless he faces real punishment from the judiciary, Slater will keep on kicking out like that.
March 23rd 2013 @ 4:08pm
solly said | March 23rd 2013 @ 4:08pm | Report comment
This is pretty much it.
He has a dangerous technique that needs to be looked at.
THAT is the only issue here.
March 23rd 2013 @ 9:12am
The Barry said | March 23rd 2013 @ 9:12am | Report comment
I think the best parallel is Craig smith who used to raise his knee to defend himself before he got to the defensive line. He was told to get his technique right or be rubbed out. He was suspended heaps of times and eventually rubbed out of aussie footy,