A new golden age of Australian rugby is upon us

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    The signs are pointing to a return to dominance for Australian rugby, as our Super Rugby teams are once again among the best attackers in the southern hemisphere.

    In terms of tries scored and clean breaks, the Australian teams are now dominating the top six.

    “SBW is the kind of guy who keeps the kids out of the movies,” a South African commentator once remarked.

    The ARU must be Hollywood’s next enemy, with the tournament’s top three try-scorers including the world’s best player, Israel Folau, and the indelible Jesse Mogg.

    The rise of the Australian contingent is even more interesting given the shrinking presence of the New Zealand and South African franchices.

    The Chiefs are standing alone in NZ while the Crusaders, Highlanders, Blues and Hurricanes have been folding around them like deck chairs. It’s suddenly lonely at the top.

    The South Africans are in greater strife, with the Cheetahs and Bulls serving up rubbish.

    The Stormers have always had a curious gag reflex with the sight of a try-line, but in previous years they largely got away with it due to their strong defence. This year their defence has been average, and they find themselves at the bottom of the table.

    Perhaps their coaching staff could trial hypnosis at training; anything to expel the anxiety associated with scoring tries. A white line is not something to be feared.

    Presumably the Stormers won’t figure out how to score tries this year so 2014 will be lost to them again, while the Lions are unlikely to shoot the lights out, leaving the Sharks to carry the torch for the South Africans.

    So all eyes are now on the Aussies. Even the Rebels and Force have learnt how to crank up the temp, and on their day will beat anyone in the competition.

    Forget being contenders – one of three Australian teams is likely to win the competition this year, as all they have to do is beat the Chiefs.

    And this depth bodes well for the Wallabies. Look out for a tight one in the Bledisloe Cup.

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    • March 16th 2014 @ 8:02am
      james said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:02am | ! Report

      here we go again…more hype, yet nothing to show for it. Ive lost count how many “golden age of Australian rugby” never eventuated since 2008.The most recent being before the Lions series when aussies super rugby teams were showing promise yet went bust as usual on the global stage haha

      • March 16th 2014 @ 8:28am
        Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:28am | ! Report

        Stop raving James. Its only one persons opinion. You Gert very hurt & sensitive with these sort of articles. 95% of Aussie rugby fans don’t buy into these opinion based articles so why do you??? Withoutsuch articles or hope what else is there to talk about?

        • March 16th 2014 @ 8:51am
          IRE of Malcom said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:51am | ! Report

          Buzzard, stop living in a fantasy world.

          Remember what happened the last time IRE play Australia at the world cup and all the hype and disrespect?. Yep thought so, you lot just cant leanr

          • March 16th 2014 @ 11:27am
            Wozza said | March 16th 2014 @ 11:27am | ! Report

            Buzzard, when will you learn. One persons point of view always represents the collective Australian point of view even when it doesn’t. How else would (mostly) Kiwis maintain their condescending stereotypes of Australian rugby supporters without sneering at the odd supporter who puts the fact that he dares to dream in print

          • March 16th 2014 @ 12:32pm
            Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 12:32pm | ! Report

            Australia 2 RWC…..IRE…..Zilch and will always be zilch. Geez you guys win your 2nd 5/6N in 30 odd years and its like you’ve won the world cup. Then again closest you’ll ever Get to it!!!

            • March 17th 2014 @ 3:04am
              IRE of Malcom said | March 17th 2014 @ 3:04am | ! Report

              you taken your meds yet Buzzard?

      • March 16th 2014 @ 9:13am
        Dirk said | March 16th 2014 @ 9:13am | ! Report

        Awesome. Nothing like an outraged kiwi to give me an amusing start to the day. Thanks bro

        • March 16th 2014 @ 11:07am
          richard said | March 16th 2014 @ 11:07am | ! Report

          Who says we’re all outraged? Regardless of the form,or lack of,most kiwis would have said Australia are on the improve.

          Where I would draw the line is this belief that SR success for Aussie teams will suddenly correlate into WB success.You only have to look at last year’s comp,and other than the Chiefs the NZ teams were generally poor.Didn’t harm the ABs though.

          I believe Australia will be quite formidable,but I wouldn’t be using soup rugby as a barometer for that success.Coaching and selection will decide that.

          • March 16th 2014 @ 11:32am
            Wozza said | March 16th 2014 @ 11:32am | ! Report

            Unfortunately Richard those that aren’t outraged don’t jump and down screaming and don’t get heard. It often leads to people such as myself forgetting about the reasonable AB supporter complete with rational mind. Nice to be reminded they exist

          • March 16th 2014 @ 12:40pm
            Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 12:40pm | ! Report

            Funny thing isd I’m a Kiwi sticking up for Aussies. All of my Aussie mates don’t think there is a new golden era. They reckon you need to win the Bledisloe back first to even think about a new era. I agree but the future is looking brighter for Aussie rugby, they are getting more depth, getting results on the field, the public are getting excited. Need the Bledisloe or even a Rugby championship first.

            Though I have as sneasky feeling the Wallabies will be a dark horse for the 2015 RWC. Only been 2 previous RWC in the UK and the favorites have never won it there and the Wallabies on both occasions were slight outsiders. At the moment the Wallabies will be ranked behind, NZ, SA, Eng, Ire, Fra & possibly Wales!!!

            • March 16th 2014 @ 12:47pm
              soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 12:47pm | ! Report

              yep a world cup gives aussies plenty of time to get used to playing in europe wtth some good prep

              • March 16th 2014 @ 1:00pm
                Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:00pm | ! Report

                All the pressure will be on the All Blacks & England but especially the All Backs because We are always red hot favorites and we had never won a RWC outside of NZ where the Wallabies have. Both in the UK . I worry when the Wallabies are written off thats when they are most dangerous. I love it when they are gloating and overconfident, favorites thats when they come unstuck.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 1:32pm
                Ra said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:32pm | ! Report

                As I’ve said before brothers, we need the Aussies in rugby in this part of our world like they need us pepper potted in their country and their industry. They need good people to prop up their economy, and that’s our job. Likewise we need them here because it’s too far for us to continually fly to South Africa to play rugby. If Aussie wasn’t here, then the Poms would have more dominance at IRB level than they have. So supporting Aussie rugby is a “need to do” for all Kiwis, it’s just economically sound to do so, aside from having someone close to home to wop up all the time, and that’s a “nice to do!!!!!”

          • March 16th 2014 @ 1:07pm
            Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:07pm | ! Report

            Australia are not on the improve unless you only chose to look at the most recent games and even then it is debatable.
            There was the demolition of Italy, well England just demolished them by more and conceeded less.
            There was the win over Wales, it was a good win but not an improvement in margin at all.
            There was the win over Ireland, Australias best performance of the year imo, not Irelands however.
            There was the win over Argentina…by 1 followed by a demolition of the 10th ranked side. An improvement from the first game for sure.

            Australia have improved from being absolutely terrible mid year but improved from 2012?
            No way in the world.

            Will they improve this year? They better or it will be considered the worst period in pro era Wallaby history.

            • March 16th 2014 @ 1:16pm
              ScrumJunkie said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:16pm | ! Report

              I simply look at the Force rsults to see Australian rugby is on upward trend. Suppose I shouldn’t get ahead of myself, highlanders are the force’s bunnies.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 1:30pm
                Rugby Fan said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:30pm | ! Report

                The force may be based in aus but they ain’t a Aussie team .
                Kiwi Staffa halves etc !!
                Sanzar Force

              • March 16th 2014 @ 1:33pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:33pm | ! Report

                get your hand off it

              • March 16th 2014 @ 2:10pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:10pm | ! Report

                apologise for that, misdirected reply

            • March 16th 2014 @ 6:56pm
              Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:56pm | ! Report

              Blame that fraud Deans for that. Great by the NZRU to commit espionage on Australian rugby though.

            • March 16th 2014 @ 8:50pm
              Crazy Horse said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:50pm | ! Report

              Western Australia is a migrant society. We have lots of people moving here from lots of places, particulalry New Zealand and South Africa, Ireland and otner places. A visit any Rugby Club in Perth will show that.

      • March 16th 2014 @ 6:10pm
        Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:10pm | ! Report

        Like the ABs every RWC outside of NZ?

    • March 16th 2014 @ 8:03am
      Kuruki said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:03am | ! Report

      WOW. Is it April?

      • March 16th 2014 @ 8:08am
        Kuruki said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:08am | ! Report

        Does indelible mean comes unstuck under pressure? if so i totally agree.

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          March 16th 2014 @ 9:27am
          Atawhai Drive said | March 16th 2014 @ 9:27am | ! Report

          It means unable to be erased or removed.

          I can’t quite see how this applies to Jesse Mogg, but he’s a good player to watch.

          • March 16th 2014 @ 9:38am
            Kuruki said | March 16th 2014 @ 9:38am | ! Report

            Oh i see, i will agree anyway because i am unable to erase the memory of him coming unstuck under pressure.

    • March 16th 2014 @ 8:10am
      zer0 said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:10am | ! Report

      “A new golden age of Australian rugby is upon us” – Such pronouncements should probably wait until more than four full rounds of a 19 round competition have played out. Not to even mention the test season.

      “…the world’s best player, Israel Folau” – I think most people, many Australians included, would tell you that it’s actually Kieran Read.

      “Even the Rebels and Force have learnt how to crank up the temp, and on their day will beat anyone in the competition” – This is applicable to just about everyone in the competition (beating anyone on their day, I mean).

      “Forget being contenders – one of three Australian teams is likely to win the competition this year, as all they have to do is beat the Chiefs.” – And the Sharks.

      All in all, this reads as a “how to lose friends and alienate people 101” sort of guide.

      • March 16th 2014 @ 9:24am
        messa said | March 16th 2014 @ 9:24am | ! Report

        except that even in new zealand this week Read’s been labelled a ‘plonker’ (not my words) beacuse of his poor form so far

        • March 16th 2014 @ 1:09pm
          Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:09pm | ! Report

          Decision making, not form.

        • March 16th 2014 @ 2:48pm
          John said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:48pm | ! Report

          Do you actually think the top ABs take the s15 seriously? Kieran Read is the best player in the world and will peak when it matters. Most ABs t are only functioning at 60% and aim to peak around July to September. The Aussie teams get together a lot earlier and therefore start the s15 a lot better than the NZ teams do. Looking purely at individual talent across the ten teams from both nations, I would still say NZ are miles ahead of Australia in terms of naturally gifted players and depth. The Aussie teams appear to be more prepared, structured and better coached however.

          • March 16th 2014 @ 4:22pm
            soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:22pm | ! Report

            so they’re bludging in super rugby? very unprofessional.

          • March 16th 2014 @ 6:17pm
            Magic Sponge said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:17pm | ! Report

            I agree John the ABS don’t give a toss about S15 it is obvious they see it as a training run.But I would not say the abs are gone based on S15 form.

            Give Mogg a wallaby wing spot

            • March 16th 2014 @ 6:33pm
              Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:33pm | ! Report

              BS the ABs do give a toss about Super rugby. If not a young fella might take their place. They just aren’t in form at the moment. They will be there in the finals. The Chiefs will be in the GF again if not it will be a huge failure on their part.

      • March 16th 2014 @ 12:49pm
        soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 12:49pm | ! Report

        israels a contender and still learning. not as far out as you might think

      • March 16th 2014 @ 6:57pm
        Daz said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:57pm | ! Report

        The signs are encouraging but a “new golden age of Australian rugby” won’t be upon us until our Aussie sides have more consistent form. On form Waratahs should have won but didn’t. Rebels should have won but didn’t. Only two teams lived up to their early season form. Force should have won and they did. Reds should have lost and they did.

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      March 16th 2014 @ 8:11am
      biltongbek said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:11am | ! Report

      Wow Phil, that’s a bit of a mouthfull, you shouldn’t talk with a mouthfull though mate. Its usually rather messy. 😉

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        March 16th 2014 @ 3:44pm
        Phil Bird said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:44pm | ! Report

        BB who do you see making the final six?

        • March 16th 2014 @ 10:56pm
          mick said | March 16th 2014 @ 10:56pm | ! Report

          Bleh BB is a bitter Saffer who has somehow managed a fantastic houdini act in pulling the wool over peoples eyes and seeming like a neutral level headed bloke. Hes slowly mellowed his anti Australian rhetoric over time but originally joined these threads to hate on Aussie rugby…deep down hes still a typically anti Aus jealous japie.

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            March 16th 2014 @ 11:05pm
            biltongbek said | March 16th 2014 @ 11:05pm | ! Report

            You worked me out, well done. 😉

            • March 17th 2014 @ 2:21pm
              mick said | March 17th 2014 @ 2:21pm | ! Report

              It was easy boss.

    • March 16th 2014 @ 8:11am
      IRE of Malcom said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:11am | ! Report

      Bit too early there? week 4 or 5 only?

      what exactly did happened in the weekend for aussie teams? only 1 team won by the slimmest of margins lol.

      The so called well hyped Tahs were given a reality check and the Reds were looked ordinary when up against quality opposition.

      SA teams were mix results but performed better than the Australia team and the Crusaders, Chiefs and Canes won thier matches with only the Highlanders and Blues (under controversial circumstances) lost by the narrowest of margins.

      When Australian rugby can win something, then they can brag on how good they are, but at the moment thier trophy cabinet is as empty as a dust bowl…might be best if you lot went under the radar because there is nothing more embarrassing watching your teams fail after all the hype…but then again like rugby in this country has never failed to disappoint in that department.

      • March 16th 2014 @ 12:06pm
        Wozza said | March 16th 2014 @ 12:06pm | ! Report

        If the IRE stands for Ireland, then congratulations. You did actually win something but your chest must be aching from the beating you’re giving it. Do some deep breathing, take the malice out of your words and maybe people will start to consider if your points are worth responding to

      • March 16th 2014 @ 12:51pm
        soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 12:51pm | ! Report

        you do realise 2 aussie teams won on the weekend. 1 being a derby should have given you a head start

        the reds did about as well they did against the waratahs therefore the tahs must be”quality opposition” and they got beaten by an aussie team last night that came second in the comp last year.

        i know some of these supe rteams would regularly give your test team a good run but why does it make you so angry that aus rugby is showing marked improvement

      • March 16th 2014 @ 12:53pm
        Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 12:53pm | ! Report

        Australia, the Wallabies, a nation & team where rugby is ranked 4th or 5th most popular sport they have done well to win 2 rugby world cups like super power rugby nations NZ & Sth Africa. They’ve won a few trinations & Bledisloe Cups in their time. Not bad for a nation where rugby is well down the pecking order. Their league team are world champions, their cricket team is pretty world class, they’re going to the next soccer world cup, they have av stack of NBA & NFL stars. The Aussies are doing well I think.

        They always get the skin of us Kiwis though, why is that??? Maybe we are fickle. Jealous, I’m not sure. We only have rugby, but we have a smaller population but I’m happy for Australian rugby. I love it when they’re up and about, its great rivalry.

        • March 16th 2014 @ 1:15pm
          Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:15pm | ! Report

          We only have rugby?
          If you were a kiwi you would know thats nonsense.
          You are no Kiwi.

          Weve won an Americas cup.
          Rafting world champs.
          Kayaking world champs
          Cycling world champion sprinters.
          A league WC.
          A cricket champions trophey.
          Numerous Olympic medals.
          We just won a test series against India.

          This is but a tiny fraction of our sporting accomplishments.

          Youre no Kiwi.

          • March 16th 2014 @ 1:34pm
            soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:34pm | ! Report

            hahahahahahahahahaha….you know ur struggling if sailings at the top of your list of sporting accomplishments. aus did that years ago

            • March 16th 2014 @ 4:27pm
              chuck said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:27pm | ! Report

              Didn’t John Bertand capt the yellow submarine you know the one that sunk never been seen too compete again . bit of trivia for soapit
              New Zealand is the first country outside of America too defend cup and win it 1983,2000,Aus did that years
              ago and won it once is a bit like trying too win the Bedisloe cup all those years ago don’t you think

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:39pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:39pm | ! Report

                no idea, sailing really isnt on my radar

              • March 16th 2014 @ 5:34pm
                Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 5:34pm | ! Report

                Is $500 million $NZ worth of tax payers money worth it??? Australia said no years ago and put money into schools, hospitals and housing.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 6:25pm
                Paul said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:25pm | ! Report

                and look how that turned out…NZ is ranked higher when it comes to education, housing and public health care

              • March 16th 2014 @ 6:36pm
                Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:36pm | ! Report

                @John….how come thousands of Kiwis keep coming to Australia??? Please tell me? I did because the wages were better, better opportunities. Slowed down of late but I’m established now and the whole world is in a mess.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 6:58pm
                Paul said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:58pm | ! Report

                having better wages doesn’t necessarily mean better access to public services. Its not how much you spend but how you spend it.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 7:25pm
                Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 7:25pm | ! Report

                Paul I’m not going to argue. The stats tell the story. 650000 kiwis in Oz.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 8:41pm
                Paul said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:41pm | ! Report

                for obvious reasons-good wages yet a manufacturing industry falling apart..auto industry closures, Qantas, a declining resource sector…only a matter a time where high wages will be a thing of the past.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 8:57pm
                Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:57pm | ! Report

                The whole world is going through tough times Paul and its caught up to Australia too. Free trade a and dropping of tarrifs has done this. Wages will alwasys be good here but price of living is going up drastically like elsewhere. Still under $2 a litre of fuel though.

          • March 16th 2014 @ 1:35pm
            soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:35pm | ! Report

            and cricket champions trophy hahahaha… this has to be a wind up….kayaking!

            • March 16th 2014 @ 2:02pm
              Leon said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:02pm | ! Report

              soapit, you shouldnt be laughing when your Summer Olympic team were almost beaten by NZ.

              When was the last time Australia won the Americas cup? oh I forgot it was at the bottom of the ocean

              How did your winter olympians go after all the hype?…yep they choked and this included a bunch of whinging athletes with broken bones.

              As for NZ?

              http://www.greatestsportingnation.com/content/usa-and-new-zealand-are-best-nations-sports-2012

              • March 16th 2014 @ 2:07pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:07pm | ! Report

                almost. werent.

                are you seriously going to rate oz’s sporting ability based on their performance in the winter olympics? have you ever had a look just how much snow there is in australia?

              • March 16th 2014 @ 2:17pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:17pm | ! Report

                and no i cant really actually remember the last time any country won the americas cup except for that recent one that had an aussie crew racing for the united states of america. i dont think many people are really interested in sailing and only pay attention when we win something (olympic medals etc)

              • March 16th 2014 @ 2:21pm
                Sam J said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:21pm | ! Report

                soapit you should of watched the winter olympics because it parallels the tone of this article

                I lost count how many ‘gold medal hopes’ channel 10 was bragging on about but never eventuated…it was quite embarrassing watching them back peddle. Hilarious stuff haha

                Hype-boom-bust=epic failure.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 2:25pm
                Sam J said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:25pm | ! Report

                soapit,

                Trust me it was front page news when it happened.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 3:19pm
                Jerry said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:19pm | ! Report

                I seem to recall a bunch of Kiwis in that team too, including the guy running the campaign. And it wasn’t until they got a Brit onboard they started winning. Still, Australians have never been shy of piggy backing on another team’s sporting feats.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 3:28pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:28pm | ! Report

                you might note that i didnt try and piggy back on them, just stated it as a fact. dont feel you actually have to read the post properly though.

                you think we shouldnt be happy when someone from our country wins something? can we confirm whether the aussie was the skipper?

              • March 16th 2014 @ 3:32pm
                Jerry said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:32pm | ! Report

                You can be happy, but it’s not an ‘Aussie crew’ by any definition, so your stated ‘fact’ isn’t one.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:12pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:12pm | ! Report

                so shoot me, no one cares about sailing

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:17pm
                Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:17pm | ! Report

                Almost….but didn’t!!!

          • March 16th 2014 @ 1:36pm
            soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:36pm | ! Report

            there seems to be literally nothing in your list that aus hasnt done either fairly often or a long time ago

          • March 16th 2014 @ 1:36pm
            soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:36pm | ! Report

            there seems to be literally nothing in your list that aus hasnt done either fairly often or a long time ago

            • March 16th 2014 @ 1:43pm
              Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:43pm | ! Report

              Well excuse me.
              Soapit Im sure the sports you care about are the “real” sports (and you tell others to get their hand off it?)
              This is about Buzzatd saying NZ only has union and not about NZ being better than Australia if you would actually care to read.
              And there is no “top of my list” its demonstrating that NZ doesnt just have union.
              But thanks for demonstrating you have it firmly grasped by putting down sports you dont care about. Stroke it much?

              Buzzard is definately not a Kiwi. I am 100% sure of that. Hes anti-Kiwi in all of his posts.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 2:03pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:03pm | ! Report

                real sports that are contested between more than two nations i suppose. sailing

              • March 16th 2014 @ 3:18pm
                44bottles said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:18pm | ! Report

                Like AFL and League soapit?

              • March 16th 2014 @ 3:30pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:30pm | ! Report

                dont folly afl but we are world champions of league. smashed the next best team by 40 points

              • March 16th 2014 @ 6:59pm
                Paul said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:59pm | ! Report

                “real sports that are contested between more than two nations i suppose. sailing”

                so the only sport (league) Australia smashes in isnt really a sport according to your definition soapit?

                Looks like someone is biting thier own tail

              • March 17th 2014 @ 7:35am
                soapit said | March 17th 2014 @ 7:35am | ! Report

                well paul i dont know what calcs you did to arrive at only two nations contesting league. there are clearly three at the moment.

            • March 16th 2014 @ 2:06pm
              Jase said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:06pm | ! Report

              Australia have never made the semi final of the World FIBA championships. NZ on the other hand

              • March 16th 2014 @ 2:11pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:11pm | ! Report

                excellent! whats fiba?

              • March 16th 2014 @ 2:28pm
                Jase said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:28pm | ! Report

                Basketball.

                Probably best you keep on the down low soapit as you obviously dont know anything about sports in general.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 2:37pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:37pm | ! Report

                re: basketball. the united states is so far ahead of everyone its hard for me to get interested in the international game.

                how many nba players do nz have?

              • March 16th 2014 @ 5:01pm
                Ret said | March 16th 2014 @ 5:01pm | ! Report

                The Aussie Women’s team wouldn’t be too impressed with that claim. They actually won it a few years back.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 5:44pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 5:44pm | ! Report

                too true ref. too true

              • March 17th 2014 @ 3:06am
                IRE of Malcom said | March 17th 2014 @ 3:06am | ! Report

                lol womens basketball. Aussies are sure digging out the bottom of the barrel

              • March 17th 2014 @ 7:37am
                soapit said | March 17th 2014 @ 7:37am | ! Report

                try and keep up malcolm, basketball was brought up in relation to the kiwis

            • March 16th 2014 @ 2:54pm
              John said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:54pm | ! Report

              Per head of population, NZ is probably the best sporting nation on earth. The guy who said that nz only has rugby is really ignorant and understating the achievements of a nation of only 4.5 million.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:34pm
                Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:34pm | ! Report

                Australia has achieved so much more on a higher frequency. NZ has done so much per capita. But rafting???

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:40pm
                John said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:40pm | ! Report

                Yep, Buzzard is definitely an Aussie.

            • March 16th 2014 @ 3:52pm
              Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:52pm | ! Report

              Did you just imply sailing is only between 2 countries?

              NZ has a great sporting culture and has been successfull in

              Rowing
              Kayaking
              Sailing
              Rugby
              Netball
              Hockey
              Golf
              Squash
              Cricket
              Rafting
              Lumberjack type stuff (wood chopping etc)
              Climbing
              Mountaineering
              League
              Bowls
              Cycling
              Jet boating
              V8s
              Skydiving
              Shot put

              and many other sports.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:24pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:24pm | ! Report

                lumberjack type stuff?
                skydiving?
                V8’s?

                i guess you can invent a world championship in anything.

                shot put should be at the top of that list btw

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:35pm
                Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:35pm | ! Report

                Wow how ignorant are you Soapit?

                V8s are massive in Australia. Ever heard of Bathurst? Wow you dont even know much about Australian sport.
                The list isnt in any order ffs, wtf, are you OK, I mean are you normal or what?
                This is not a boast as in we are succesfull in all of these mega popular spectator sports, its just listing what NZ sportsman and women have succeeded in and popular in NZ in reply to an AUSTRALIAN who tried to say all we had is rugby.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:41pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:41pm | ! Report

                i’m as ignorant as i am beautiful

              • March 16th 2014 @ 5:06pm
                Col in paradise said | March 16th 2014 @ 5:06pm | ! Report

                You forgot mass migration….CURRENT Wold champions in the Diaspora Cup ..!!!!!!
                NZ the Irish of the 20th and 21st century.!!!!…such a great place nearly 20-25% of their voting age population live overseas..yes Australia benefits with Kiwi League players, Bouncers and Removalists…!!!!! Thanks Bro…overall great sportsman but when it comes to Rugby bit tired of their non stop bragging and arrogant attitude…lucky they win a lot because their fans are such crap loosers…at least we are used to it in Rugby!

              • March 16th 2014 @ 10:42pm
                aNDY said | March 16th 2014 @ 10:42pm | ! Report

                we leave our homeland shores to help rebuild your economy as most bogans are too lazy to find jobs

              • March 17th 2014 @ 7:39am
                soapit said | March 17th 2014 @ 7:39am | ! Report

                i dont know that kiwis only do bogan level jobs though when they come to oz do they?

          • March 16th 2014 @ 3:51pm
            Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:51pm | ! Report

            Tane bro…. I didn’t really want to compare Australia’s achievements to ours but you have put me in this embarrassing position. Where do I start with their achievements???2 RWC the same as us & SA, more than Eng
            RLWC x8
            Cricket x4
            Netball x6
            Brought NZ the Americas Cup. Took the Cup from USA.
            Hockey x 5
            Darts
            Rowing
            Canoeing
            Boomerang throwing

            F1 Grand Prix
            Tennis champ’s
            Boxing world champs
            Basketball
            Total ownership of the Commonwealth games
            Olympics except their last (diabolical)

            Geez im embarrassed to go on.
            I’m Kiwi Tane. I live in Australia. Australia has been good to me, their people have made me very welcome. Ihave a lot of Aussie mates. They go for NZ when Aussie arent involved. I used to go for NZ & anyone playing against Oz until I realized we are closer than my ignorance gave credit.

            I’m not fussed with Australian rugby. NZ have always owned them and I don’t need to gloat about it. Maybe I’m a humble man and a good sport. I don’t need to prove my nationality to you or anyone. I just love good hard entertaining and fair rugby. And you???

            • March 16th 2014 @ 4:02pm
              Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:02pm | ! Report

              And I never compared them so WTF are you talking about digger.

              Kiwi my a$$. There is no way in hell a Kiwi would complain about the so called Ausie bashing, ignore the Kiwi bashing and go out of his way to try and prove how poor NZ is and how great Australia is.

              Im 100% certain you are no Kiwi.

              As you can see from below and your post, its all about Australia and how they are better.

              I never compared the 2 and it is a sad truth that the USA and Australia are all “me, me me” when it comes to sport.

              You said all NZ has is rugby. A kiwi would never say that but I said that NZ has more than just rugby to which the Australians reply to by telling me that Australia is better at those sports, those sports are not up to Australias standards or by listing Australias sports.

              So NZ only has rugby? Or is it Australia cant handle the fact thats not true in the slightest?

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:09pm
                Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:09pm | ! Report

                No need to get upset Tane nbecause I’m a Kiwi. Now your having a go at a bro? I was at Eden Pk 1981 when Alan Hewson kicked the winning penalty against the Books to win 25-22. I was at Eden Pk 1979 to watch Counties lose 11-9 to Auckland in an Epic Shield clash. I was at Eden Pk 1987 to bear witness to the ABs RWC win. I witnessed Artur Stones great try against Auckland in 79, . I witnessed Auckland rugby league team beat the Kangaroos at Carlaw Pk in 87, Neville Kesha the dodgey refereeing decision won us the game. I don’t have to prove nothing to you bro, but that is an entree if you like.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:14pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:14pm | ! Report

                sounds pretty legit tane

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:15pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:15pm | ! Report

                so tane new zealand isnt all rugby? what is the name of your soccer team? and basketball team?

                you are very good at rugby. you should enjoy that, it might not last

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:16pm
                Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:16pm | ! Report

                So in conclusion.
                NZ doesnt just have rugby.
                If you had ever been there you would know that.
                But feel free to list Australias accomplishments but know this, I never said “Australia only has…”

                Thanks for reminding me how stup1d it would be to say that though.

                P.S.And still in reply you keep trying to say how Australia is better. Its like talking to a brick wall.
                NZ doesnt just have rugby and are good at many sports, better than Australia at many sports but unless you are a bit slow in the head you will note that Ive never compared the 2 or said NZ is better at all sports. Can you compute?

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:27pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:27pm | ! Report

                its true i went there and i confess i did ski while i was there so its right there are other sports. i wouldnt say i’d be able to judge on whether the locals were any good though with my skiing ability.

            • March 16th 2014 @ 4:48pm
              John said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:48pm | ! Report

              Extremely embarrassing for Australians to be comparing themselves against a nation of 4.5 million. It would be like us kiwis crowing about how much better we are than Fiji at sports. Thankfully we have enough common sense not to be so silly.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 5:46pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 5:46pm | ! Report

                settle down champ we’re only 20 million, of which 50% dont even know theres two types of rugby. imagine if aus rugby didnt have to compete for dollars

              • March 16th 2014 @ 6:31pm
                Paul said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:31pm | ! Report

                dont get too sensitive now soapit,

                For a country that invest so much in sports and having world class facilities such as the A.I.S in comparison to the crumbs NZ gets in investments in sport-Australia does quite poorly. NZ shouldnt be achieving anything besides rugby right ? but you have just been proven wrong. Cheer up mate. Must be tiring having to defend a country that under achieves.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 6:44pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:44pm | ! Report

                this is a rugby thread. what funds does rugby get under the ais?

              • March 16th 2014 @ 7:04pm
                Paul said | March 16th 2014 @ 7:04pm | ! Report

                opps dont try to change the subject there soapit.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 7:27pm
                Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 7:27pm | ! Report

                Kiwis always compare. Thats why I get embarrassed. NZ this NZ that then boom. Nothing….move to Oz.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 8:47pm
                Donald of Brissy said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:47pm | ! Report

                the same way you did Buzz?

                Just reading your comments and the way you take the bait everywhere on this site makes me embarrassed for you no matter where you are from. You sound like the most precious person on the internet. Take a deep breathe mate, go and smell the roses outside.

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            • March 16th 2014 @ 9:02pm
              Crazy Horse said | March 16th 2014 @ 9:02pm | ! Report

              There’s two types of Rugby?

              Oh yeah, 15s and 7s.

          • March 16th 2014 @ 4:02pm
            Dirk said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:02pm | ! Report

            Wow tane you guys are rocking. World rafting champions??? No way we can compete with that

            • March 16th 2014 @ 5:11pm
              Col in paradise said | March 16th 2014 @ 5:11pm | ! Report

              maybe we shiuld turn back the rafts and kayaks as well ????? Calling Tones Now!!!!..reminds me Cycling..Tour de France anyone?…that to me one of major sporting achievemnets of the past decade…

          • March 16th 2014 @ 6:59pm
            Emric said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:59pm | ! Report

            Netball championships, softball champions as well

      • March 16th 2014 @ 12:55pm
        Dirk said | March 16th 2014 @ 12:55pm | ! Report

        What rock have you been hiding under malcolm? Australia have won several rugby trophies including 2 world cups. Being the modest people we are we are we rarely talk about it though. lol.

        • March 16th 2014 @ 7:06pm
          IRE of Malcom said | March 16th 2014 @ 7:06pm | ! Report

          I was referring to the current state of Australia’s trophy cabinet which is as empty as the sahara desert.

        • March 16th 2014 @ 7:44pm
          Onya said | March 16th 2014 @ 7:44pm | ! Report

          That’s dead right & don’t forget who’s the Gay Rugby World Champs too!

      • March 16th 2014 @ 12:55pm
        soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 12:55pm | ! Report

        onya buzzard. to answer your question we try and get under your skin because we like to hear you talk when ur angry

        • March 16th 2014 @ 1:17pm
          Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:17pm | ! Report

          Buzzard has to be Australian.
          No Kiwi would claim we only have rugby.
          Its absolute BS.

          • March 16th 2014 @ 1:37pm
            soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:37pm | ! Report

            thats right he didnt even mention the sheep

            • March 16th 2014 @ 1:50pm
              Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 1:50pm | ! Report

              No but he mentioned PEDs and bowling underarm with a r@cist undertone.

              Australians seem to have won the league WC with a little help from Steven Dank eh Soapit?

              • March 16th 2014 @ 2:04pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:04pm | ! Report

                are you being serious? you gonna try and win dank to the league wc? what was the score in the final again?

                you just cant handle aus is on the up again in a few real sports and buzzard is happy for that

              • March 16th 2014 @ 3:20pm
                44bottles said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:20pm | ! Report

                Soapit, your definition of a ‘real sport’ was one that had more than one country seriously competing in it. And you call league a real sport…

              • March 16th 2014 @ 3:33pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:33pm | ! Report

                clearly not true. soccer is obviously a real sport and australia arent much chop in it (going to the world cup though).

                i also noted that those sports in the in tane special list are specifically done by australians, for the most part better than new zealanders do. not sure this theory of yours stacks up

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:03pm
                Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:03pm | ! Report

                ABs v Wales 1978 Cardiff Arms Pk, Andy Hadens dive from the lineout. Brian McKechnie gets the conversion. ABs 13 Wales 12.

                1981 underarm ball. NZ batsman Brian McKechnie, the rest is history. Karma is a mean thing isn’t it Tane.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:26pm
                Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:26pm | ! Report

                Buzzard if you are a Kiwi then Pauline Hanson is open minded.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:28pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:28pm | ! Report

                i’d say you need to get to know pauline a bit better

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:31pm
                Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:31pm | ! Report

                Who is Pauline Hanson??? Is she related to Titiwhai Harawira or Tama Iti???

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:35pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:35pm | ! Report

                she’s a red head from queensland

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:55pm
                Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:55pm | ! Report

                In a way Buzz, yes she is.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 5:05pm
                Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 5:05pm | ! Report

            • March 16th 2014 @ 2:46pm
              Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 2:46pm | ! Report

              Yes I cant hadle that, err…imporovement just like your sports stars cant handle playing sport without a little extra boost from the chemist.

              Did I mention sheep?

              • March 16th 2014 @ 3:16pm
                Adsa said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:16pm | ! Report

                Aren’t the kiwis also world champion chilli bun tossers, I think there are heaps of good tossers in NZ

              • March 16th 2014 @ 3:36pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:36pm | ! Report

                hahahaha you really are trying to lash out with that one arent you

                i dont think you did mention sheep. i mentioned them a while back though

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:51pm
                Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:51pm | ! Report

                Trying to lash out?
                No just stating the fact that it is widely thought that there are many many drug cheats in Australian sport but proving it is hard especially with organised crime involved.
                I hope they clean it up. Everybody wants a clean sport.
                I hope the many, many, many Kiwis that play in the NRL and in Australian Super teams dont have organised crime trying to make them take PEDs.
                The next underbelly series is going to be called ‘Underbelly Sports’.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 4:53pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:53pm | ! Report

                none of that is fact. if you followed aus sport more closely youd know that

              • March 16th 2014 @ 5:12pm
                Tane Mahuta said | March 16th 2014 @ 5:12pm | ! Report

                Yeah the bit about underbelly was a fib but the rest is true digger.
                It is thought PED use and organised crime is widespread in Australian sport and there has been an ongoing investigation into it over the last 13 months or so.
                Are you trying to tell me Im lying?
                Perhaps it is you that doesnt follow the sports close enough.

              • March 16th 2014 @ 5:16pm
                Col in paradise said | March 16th 2014 @ 5:16pm | ! Report

                kIWIS..DRUGS…AHAHAH LOL….pretty busy on the gear over hear and dont forget Mr Asia…everyone clean over in NZ…YEH SURE LOL LOL AHAHHAHAHA

              • March 16th 2014 @ 5:48pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 5:48pm | ! Report

                what does true digger mean? is the same as true blue?

                i dont know if ur lying, you could be insane. but can you name me a single player (as requested) that has recieved a ban from it?

              • March 16th 2014 @ 5:49pm
                soapit said | March 16th 2014 @ 5:49pm | ! Report

                i like the way col thinks

          • March 16th 2014 @ 3:59pm
            Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:59pm | ! Report

            NZ only has rugby as a priority sport. Nothing else. Yes we won RLWC but league is our no 3 or 4 sport and it shows, 1 WC to A us 8 cups. We aren’t great at soccer, yes unbeaten in the last world cup but also never won a game and haven’t made Brazil. Are achievements a far and few between but we bat well above ourselves for our small population.

            I just can’t be bothered with all this ABs are superior than Australia’s so that means NZ is superior. What happened to humbleness. I’m just as fair bloke. I feel sorry for the underdog. Never beat a dog when its down. Now the Springboks, they’re different. 80 years of rugby rivalry compared to 30 years with Australia.

            • March 16th 2014 @ 6:39pm
              Paul said | March 16th 2014 @ 6:39pm | ! Report

              Buzzard, dont you have homework to do?

            • March 16th 2014 @ 9:04pm
              nzmate said | March 16th 2014 @ 9:04pm | ! Report

              I’m quite happy for rugby to be our ‘only sport’ as the all blacks are probably the biggest sporting brand from either country … not bad for a country 1/5 the size.

              • March 17th 2014 @ 7:40am
                soapit said | March 17th 2014 @ 7:40am | ! Report

                hear hear! you might even be right about the biggest sporting brand bit. kind of a bit sad for both countries.

            • March 16th 2014 @ 10:44pm
              aNDY said | March 16th 2014 @ 10:44pm | ! Report

              at least we dominate our chosen sport and still are able to achieve other sporting feats

          • March 16th 2014 @ 4:20pm
            Buzzard said | March 16th 2014 @ 4:20pm | ! Report

            Tane has to be a Pom. He whinges too much.

            • March 16th 2014 @ 11:08pm
              ChrisT said | March 16th 2014 @ 11:08pm | ! Report

              These observations always come from whiny Aussies – maybe Tane is right.

          • March 16th 2014 @ 9:45pm
            jemainok said | March 16th 2014 @ 9:45pm | ! Report

            Dont worry tane I hear what ya saying but we don’t need to seek approval or prove what we have accomplished because we don’t need anyone to tell us what we are good at plain and simple I really like this site because people are usually insiteful in rugby.
            And Buzzard you might be a kiwi bro but you don’t sound like one. And as for this article its a definate g up you weren’t serious were you I think a bit more results are needed before you pulled this one out. Firstly win super 15 the bledisloe cup RC for at least a couple years then toot that horn call ya self aloe blacc then ‘you can tell everybody I’m the man’ but each to there own, if your measure of sucess is a few Super Rugby games then yes at times some of ya teams have oooked like world beaters just not like the Sharks and Chiefs imo.

      • March 16th 2014 @ 3:33pm
        Crazy Horse said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:33pm | ! Report

        You left out the other great Australia – New ZealNd rivalry: Netball!

    • March 16th 2014 @ 8:12am
      Steve said | March 16th 2014 @ 8:12am | ! Report

      The big reason is the junior development work going on is amazing. My son is in his first year of union, we live in a small country town in northern NSW and the coaching and work they put in to the younger players is incredible. Like nothing I’ve seen in my other children’s sports.

      • March 16th 2014 @ 10:39am
        ben said | March 16th 2014 @ 10:39am | ! Report

        The big reason for what?

        • March 16th 2014 @ 3:47pm
          Crazy Horse said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:47pm | ! Report

          The reason the game is growing, certainly in WA.

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        March 16th 2014 @ 3:43pm
        Phil Bird said | March 16th 2014 @ 3:43pm | ! Report

        I’ve heard the same, actually, from a young female rugby coach. Unsung heroes in the rugby community.

        • March 16th 2014 @ 9:03pm
          Crazy Horse said | March 16th 2014 @ 9:03pm | ! Report

          13.5% growth rate in WA.

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